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Sunday, March 31, 2024
Sara Ahrenholtz - SPEAKS OUT After Coming Out of a CULT - Worldwide Church of God
She certainly answered one of my questions regarding WCG childhood. I myself had a non-WCG childhood & enjoyed watching Sat. morn. cartoons.
I sometimes wonder if WCG kids got to watch cartoons on Sat., Sara says no as far as their family.
Every kid I knew really looked forward to some children oriented TV after a week of school system regimen. But WCG kids must have had things way different.
The video also addresses when WCG adults puzzled wondering how the church reasoned the acceptance (or not) of public firemen, medical, & safety personnel "working" (serving) on Sabbath. Good video of her interview.
Herbert was allegedly watching Western films on the Sabbath so I guess cartoon watching happened...behind closed doors...before the ministry visiting programme came a calling.
Friday night and Saturday television watching was forbidden in our household, even nature shows could not be watched. this came from our nazi minister Carn Catherwood and James Young.
Yeah, we went from enjoying Saturday AM cartoons to no TV. It was rare that we'd even be able to watch TV on weekdays. We were allowed to watch the Ed Sullican show, the Twentieth Century, and some of the Disney programs, but for the most part our TV habits (or lack therof) left us unable to relate to our peers at school. I had opportunities to sneak and watch, but they were few and far between.
The funny thing is, in those days most of the TV programs were little morality plays that taught some pretty good lessons. But you were not supposed to get such lessons from "the world". Those were to be single sourced to "God's" Church.
Basically, when I became an adult and was raising my own family, we watched TV like normal people do, and same way with the radio. Good rock n roll music.
What the church failed to realize is that members had to live and work in the real world. To an extent, you had to be relatable if you were to be trustworthy or successful. Because of our distorted upbringing, it took years for me to achieve a level where normal working relationships were possible. We were so engrained with the "us and them" mentality that it's amazing we could hold jobs at all! Other Christians (whom we did not respect as such) did not create these sorts of problems for themselves.
I really fail to see any ways in which having been a member of WCG has been helpful or beneficial. I surely can relate to other persecuted minorities, but sincerely wish that no minority people had to suffer.
I "might" (vaguely) agree with the ones still in it today who feel one part of it all that was beneficial, is of how we all put good effort often into learning how to endure brethren with vastly different recipe or clothing or music or mannerisms styles than our own.
Sometimes, good solid Christian bonding did not occur though, if firm arguments & disagreements occurred. But it was always a good try, & an experience to "sometimes" look back fondly on. And to potentially look forward to moreso, in future paths or possibilities?
(hey, was that 20th Century show similar to the futuristic CBS 1967-ish Walter Cronkite show called "The 21st Century"? I remember the opening theme since I was in kindergarten 1967, & often thought about it as "the year 2000" kept approaching! Finally it is on Youtube) : https://youtu.be/I7TUZ_x57d8?feature=shared
I. love how these people are speaking out agaisnt the abuse and todays COG's cannot do anyting about it. The internet ahs been the downfall of Armstrongism. These abusive men can no longer get away with their abuse.
I think he was one among many in the ministry who computed Deut 4:13 to mean that the old covenant included the decalogue, thus making the decalogue obsolete, and leaving the rest of us to shuffle through the NT to determine which of the ten was still "good".
Not good if you are not a good student of the NT.
"Their shepherds cause them to go astray". (Jer 50:6)
When you think about it, 10:20, they kind of screwed themselves. Herbert W. Armstrong did not believe in freedom of speech. So, within their insular community, none of the leaders developed the skill set to function in an environment where free speech is practiced and encouraged. So, even if they try to deal with the 'net, they lack the skills necessary to be successful and victorious.
It's a fitting end for all tyrants to face a destruction which is caused by freedom!
She certainly answered one of my questions regarding WCG childhood. I myself had a non-WCG childhood & enjoyed watching Sat. morn. cartoons.
ReplyDeleteI sometimes wonder if WCG kids got to watch cartoons on Sat., Sara says no as far as their family.
Every kid I knew really looked forward to some children oriented TV after a week of school system regimen. But WCG kids must have had things way different.
The video also addresses when WCG adults puzzled wondering how the church reasoned the acceptance (or not) of public firemen, medical, & safety personnel "working" (serving) on Sabbath. Good video of her interview.
Herbert was allegedly watching Western films on the Sabbath so I guess cartoon watching happened...behind closed doors...before the ministry visiting programme came a calling.
DeleteFriday night and Saturday television watching was forbidden in our household, even nature shows could not be watched. this came from our nazi minister Carn Catherwood and James Young.
ReplyDeleteCatherwood? I know that name, although I never met the man. Didnt he stay on during the 90s?
DeleteYeah, we went from enjoying Saturday AM cartoons to no TV. It was rare that we'd even be able to watch TV on weekdays. We were allowed to watch the Ed Sullican show, the Twentieth Century, and some of the Disney programs, but for the most part our TV habits (or lack therof) left us unable to relate to our peers at school. I had opportunities to sneak and watch, but they were few and far between.
ReplyDeleteThe funny thing is, in those days most of the TV programs were little morality plays that taught some pretty good lessons. But you were not supposed to get such lessons from "the world". Those were to be single sourced to "God's" Church.
Basically, when I became an adult and was raising my own family, we watched TV like normal people do, and same way with the radio. Good rock n roll music.
What the church failed to realize is that members had to live and work in the real world. To an extent, you had to be relatable if you were to be trustworthy or successful. Because of our distorted upbringing, it took years for me to achieve a level where normal working relationships were possible. We were so engrained with the "us and them" mentality that it's amazing we could hold jobs at all! Other Christians (whom we did not respect as such) did not create these sorts of problems for themselves.
I really fail to see any ways in which having been a member of WCG has been helpful or beneficial. I surely can relate to other persecuted minorities, but sincerely wish that no minority people had to suffer.
I "might" (vaguely) agree with the ones still in it today who feel one part of it all that was beneficial, is of how we all put good effort often into learning how to endure brethren with vastly different recipe or clothing or music or mannerisms styles than our own.
DeleteSometimes, good solid Christian bonding did not occur though, if firm arguments & disagreements occurred. But it was always a good try, & an experience to "sometimes" look back fondly on. And to potentially look forward to moreso, in future paths or possibilities?
(hey, was that 20th Century show similar to the futuristic CBS 1967-ish Walter Cronkite show called "The 21st Century"? I remember the opening theme since I was in kindergarten 1967, & often thought about it as "the year 2000" kept approaching! Finally it is on Youtube) :
https://youtu.be/I7TUZ_x57d8?feature=shared
I. love how these people are speaking out agaisnt the abuse and todays COG's cannot do anyting about it. The internet ahs been the downfall of Armstrongism. These abusive men can no longer get away with their abuse.
ReplyDeleteRSK, Catherwood was an evangelist in the church.
ReplyDeleteI think he was one among many in the ministry who computed Deut 4:13 to mean that the old covenant included the decalogue, thus making the decalogue obsolete, and leaving the rest of us to shuffle through the NT to determine which of the ten was still "good".
Not good if you are not a good student of the NT.
"Their shepherds cause them to go astray". (Jer 50:6)
Thats right. I remember him being involved in a bickering match with someone over shifting to Sunday assembly.
DeleteWhen you think about it, 10:20, they kind of screwed themselves. Herbert W. Armstrong did not believe in freedom of speech. So, within their insular community, none of the leaders developed the skill set to function in an environment where free speech is practiced and encouraged. So, even if they try to deal with the 'net, they lack the skills necessary to be successful and victorious.
ReplyDeleteIt's a fitting end for all tyrants to face a destruction which is caused by freedom!