The Great False Church LIE
Herbert Armstrong inherited an anti-Catholic narrative from an extreme 19th Century Protestant (Alexander Hislop) and embellished it with some of the false history created by Sabbatarian Protestants written in the same era. According to this narrative, a great false church had arisen centered on Rome and founded on the ancient pagan traditions which preceded it. Indeed, for Herbie and his followers, the Roman Catholic Church was the Great Whore of Babylon mentioned in the book of Revelation! Indeed, central to Herbie's narrative was a grand satanic conspiracy to change the day of Christian worship from the Saturday Sabbath to the Pagan Day of the Sun which took place at the behest of the Roman Emperor Constantine in the 4th Century. The only problem with this narrative is that it is NOT supported by Scripture or the historical sources available to us!
Unfortunately, this false history of Christianity continues to be trotted out to the members of the Armstrong Churches of God to this day! Perhaps, the most conspicuous of these is Bob Thiel of the so-called Continuing Church of God, but most of the other descendants of the Worldwide Church of God also continue to offer this false history to their members and the world. Indeed, even the so-called "liberal" ACOGs, like the Church of God International continue to promulgate Herbie's lie!
Notice this recent statement from CGI Medina's Jeff Flanick which is excerpted from a post he wrote about the new pope: The Council of Nicaea paved the way to officially “change” the Sabbath to Sunday, initiated the introduction of the doctrine of the Trinity, and fully replaced God’s Passover with a solar calculated “Easter” (in a convoluted and twisted formula) to “justly” separate themselves from Jewish worshippers of the “Way” concerning Pascha {Passover}). The Council, in conjunction with Emperor Constantine, paved the way to institutional ‘religion’ and the marriage of church and state. (Please take note, I’ve provided some links for your consideration about the First Council of Nicaea at the end of this article. I’m sure you will find them very interesting and quite educational!) Which Lion Should We Follow? by Jeff Flanick of the Medina CGI.
From the very first source which Jeff cited (an article for The Sabbath Sentinel entitled The Council of Nicaea and the Sabbath, we read: Hosius of Cordova was a religious advisor to Constantine and presided over the council until the emperor arrived. Hosius was likely the one to convene the meeting and invited the emperor to participate and make final decisions – in a manner like Arles. The emperor arrived about a month into the proceedings of Nicaea. At the council, decisions were made concerning Arius and the Meletians. Twenty canons, or church principles, were also passed. None of them mention the seventh-day Sabbath. At the end of the meeting, there was a letter composed by Constantine which mandated that all churches follow the Roman rite as it comes to the observance of Pascha. This composition is the basis for some who claim that Constantine changed the Sabbath. Likewise, in the conclusion to this same article, we read: The rulings at Nicaea did not stop people from keeping Pascha in a manner like the Jewish people. References to Christians keeping Passover like the Jewish people are found decades later in writers such as John Chrysostom (Eight Homilies Against the Jews) and Epiphanius (Panarion, sections 50 and 70) as well as church councils such as the Councils of Antioch (341) and Laodicea (364). Many people are not aware the Nicaea addressed many of the same issues as the Council of Arles eleven years earlier. This knowledge and the proper context of Constantine’s letter help us to understand that Nicaea had zero impact on the Sabbath.
Jeff's second source, an article penned for the United Methodist Insight titled The Sin of Nicaea, informs us that: In 325 C.E., just 12 years after the Emperor Constantine declared Christianity to be a legal and acceptable religion, he convened the Christian bishops from across the Roman Empire at the Council of Nicaea to come to agreement about the official doctrines of the church. He was particularly concerned about the divisions in the church in relation to a way of thinking called Arianism, which held a view of Jesus as not being co-eternal with the Father and thus being distinct from and subordinate to the Father. A little later, in the same article, we read: There is nothing wrong or inappropriate about church leaders coming together to seek common understanding and agreement about their views concerning the divinity of Jesus. That is not the problem with the Council of Nicaea. The sin of Nicaea is not the seeking of common understanding, rather it was what was done to those who dissented from the majority view. Once again, there is NO mention of the Sabbath!
Likewise, Jeff's third source, an article from Stand to Reason titled The Doctrine of the Trinity at Nicaea and Chalcedon included Nicaea as an important step in the formulation of Trinitarian theology. Moreover, the author made clear that the story of the development of this doctrine is one of a careful and faithful process. Indeed, in the opening to the article, we read: The formulation of the doctrine of the Trinity is a history of the refinement of terms and philosophical categories. Proper terminology was a primary issue of the ecumenical councils of the fourth and fifth centuries, and so was precision of thought and the philosophical categories used to characterize the Trinitarian and Christological doctrines. The Council of Nicaea resolved the question of Jesus’ deity, but led to further dissent about Jesus’ human and divine natures. These issues culminated in the expression of the doctrine at Chalcedon. Continuing, we read: The impressive thought and debate that went into the Councils of Nicaea and Chalcedon produced biblically sound, but also intellectually virtuous doctrines. F.F. Bruce expresses the importance of accurate language in the creeds: “Inasmuch as the deity of Christ and the doctrine of the Trinity are embedded in the New Testament, although not explicitly formulated there, we must make the effort of wrestling with difficult terminology if we are not to fall an easy prey to misunderstanding or to actual heresy.” Doctrinal development requires rigorous intellectual skills and sound philosophic categories to accurately apply God’s revelation.
Do we discern a pattern beginning to emerge with Jeff's sources? NONE of them support his and Herbie's narrative about the Roman Catholic Church or traditional Christianity! The same is also true of the other two sources jeff provided.
What is the real history of the Church and its relation to the Sabbath, doctrine of the Trinity, and the observance of Pascha/Easter? The real story is that the relationship of Christians to the commandments of Torah was clearly spelled out in the canonical books of Acts and Galatians (Acts 15:1-30 and Galatians 2:1-16). Yes, Jesus and his original twelve apostles observed the commandments of Torah, because they were JEWS! Gentiles didn't have any tradition of a weekly Holy Day, like the Sabbath!
The truth is that after the Romans destroyed Jerusalem (and the Temple) in 70 C.E., Sabbath and festival observance ceased among Jews and Jewish Christians! Indeed, by the end of the First Century, the observance of the Lord's Day (commemorating the resurrection of Christ) was almost universal. Likewise, the Trinity is implicit in the writings of the New Testament (see John 1:1-34, 10:30, 14:16-17, Matthew 3:16-17, 28: 19, Luke 1:35, I Corinthians 8:6, 12:13, II Corinthians 13:14, Colossians 2:9, etc.). As for Pascha/Easter, the sources already cited suggest that the Council of Nicaea's purpose was to standardize its observance to one day each year on the Roman calendar (which most of the known world was using).
In other posts on this blog, we have also quoted from the writings of early Christians - proving that things like Christians using Sunday to worship originated in the First Century (see The Didache, the letters of Ignatius of Antioch, and the writings of Justin Martyr) and was already common practice by the time of Constantine and the Council of Nicaea.
Finally, we have the Church History composed by Eusebius in the Fourth Century. In that history, we see a frank account of the unsettled nature of the canon for the first two hundred years of the Church's history (see Book 3, Chapter 25). He also had this to say about a sect of early Christians who continued to observe the tenets of Torah, including the Sabbath:
1. The evil demon, however, being unable to tear certain others from their allegiance to the Christ of God, yet found them susceptible in a different direction, and so brought them over to his own purposes. The ancients quite properly called these men Ebionites, because they held poor and mean opinions concerning Christ.
2. For they considered him a plain and common man, who was justified only because of his superior virtue, and who was the fruit of the intercourse of a man with Mary. In their opinion the observance of the ceremonial law was altogether necessary, on the ground that they could not be saved by faith in Christ alone and by a corresponding life.
3. There were others, however, besides them, that were of the same name, but avoided the strange and absurd beliefs of the former, and did not deny that the Lord was born of a virgin and of the Holy Spirit. But nevertheless, inasmuch as they also refused to acknowledge that he pre-existed, being God, Word, and Wisdom, they turned aside into the impiety of the former, especially when they, like them, endeavored to observe strictly the bodily worship of the law.
4. These men, moreover, thought that it was necessary to reject all the epistles of the apostle, whom they called an apostate from the law; and they used only the so-called Gospel according to the Hebrews and made small account of the rest.
5. The Sabbath and the rest of the discipline of the Jews they observed just like them, but at the same time, like us, they celebrated the Lord's days as a memorial of the resurrection of the Saviour.
6. Wherefore, in consequence of such a course they received the name of Ebionites, which signified the poverty of their understanding. For this is the name by which a poor man is called among the Hebrews.
(See Church History, Book 3, Chapter 27, "The Heresy of the Ebionites")
Thus, we see that Herbie's and Jeff's narrative about Church history is NOT consistent with the sources available to us. Their narrative regarding the "change" from Sabbath to Sunday happening in the Fourth Century under the Roman Emperor Constantine is NOT supported by the evidence available to us. Likewise, their attack on the Trinity fails on both the Scriptural and historical fronts. In fact, their history of how Sunday, the Trinity, and Pascha/Easter were borrowed from paganism and instituted by the Great False Church is shown to be a bold-faced lie! Even so, don't look for them to ever update their historical accounts of Church history, because their false historical narrative supports their heretical teachings. After all, if the truth of what actually happened in the past is too embarrassing, or doesn't support your narrative, you simply modify it - right?
Miller Jones/Lonnie C Hendrix
Thank you Millar/Lonnie for this interesting and informative post.
ReplyDeleteHerbs narrative about early church history is not consistent with the sources available to us now, is indeed true. Much like BI, absolutely inconsistent with scriptural authority and historical archaeological fact, linguistics DNA etc etc. This inconsistency marks the Armstrong movement across the board.
‘The truth is that after the Romans destroyed Jerusalem and the Temple in 70 C E, Sabbath and festival observance ceased among the Jews and Jewish Christians…’. Not so. Sabbath observance was indeed what held Israelite/jewish communities together after the tragedy of the fall of Jerusalem, in the diaspora, as they were dispersed worldwide among the nations. Rabbinical authority superseded the Temple priests after the destruction and they were a glue encouraging and enforcing Jewish conformity to Saturday observance. Plus the Jewish people remained distinct from those around them. My own family who we call trace to the 1100s fled Israel at the fall, arriving in Italy then moved to Central Europe (Czech Republic) where they remained for centuries until the holocaust. Yet they were sabbath observers throughout the ages. Nice post thanks for your work.
Thank you for your comment.
DeleteIt is more precise to say that Sabbath and Holy Day observance ceased for a time after the Second Temple's destruction by the Romans. It took many years for the Jews to recover and reformulate their religion, and what emerged was obviously NOT always going to be consistent with the instructions found in Torah (there wasn't any Temple, no council, no high priest, no Holy of Holies, no altar to make sacrifices on, and travel to the devastated city of Jerusalem was greatly restricted thereafter).
Check out these links:
https://www.jewishhistory.org/the-destruction-of-the-second-temple/
https://www.fabriziomusacchio.com/weekend_stories/told/2025/2025-01-09-rabbinic_judaism/
Notice also this Copilot Answer:
After the destruction of the Second Temple in 70 CE, several significant changes occurred in Judaism:
Development of Rabbinic Judaism: The loss of the Second Temple prompted the development of Rabbinic Judaism, which remains the mainstream form of Jewish religious practices globally.
Shift from Sacrificial Worship to Prayer and Torah Study: With sacrificial worship no longer possible, Jewish practices shifted to prayer, Torah study, and synagogue gatherings.
Replacement of the Temple by the Synagogue: The synagogue replaced the Temple as the center of Jewish communal life.
Transition from Priest to Rabbi: The role of the priest was replaced by that of the rabbi.
As with the destruction of Solomon's Temple by the Babylonians, there was initially a profound alienation from the faith of their fathers. Notice these passages of Scripture:
I will put an end to all her mirth, her feasts, her new moons, her Sabbaths, and all her appointed feasts. Hosea 2:11
The roads to Zion mourn, for none come to the festival; all her gates are desolate her priests groan; her virgins have been afflicted, and she herself suffers bitterly. Ecclesiastes 1:4
He has laid waste his booth like a garden, laid in ruins his meeting place; the Lord has made Zion forget festival and Sabbath, and in his fierce indignation has spurned king and priest. Ecclesiastes 2:6
The upheaval for Jewish Christians would have been even more profound than it was for the practitioners of Judaism. After the Roman War of annihilation, there was a tremendous incentive to disassociate oneself from the Jews - to stress that Christianity was a separate and new religion.
The Adventist/Hislopist/Armstrongist conspiracy-theory of the hijacking of primitive Christianity makes the devil powerful than jesus. Because, as far as I can tell, the roll of the "true church" is to reestablish Ebionite doctrines. Looks like this has been a failure despite large sums of money spent on print radio & television, subtracting large sums spent on salaries for Stan Rader and Bob Kuhn (both practicing Jews) while burning millions on Jetsetting and classical concerts, and didn't they also fund a Hollywood movie? which lost money? learning what their Jewish friends in Hollywood already knew: " most motion picture productions lose money".
ReplyDeleteOh my. When I started reading this I thought, "this is either Lonnie or that COG Catholic dude". But I went ahead and read it anyway.
ReplyDelete"The loss of the Second Temple prompted the development of Rabbinic Judaism, which remains the mainstream form of Jewish religious practices globally."
That doesn't mean it's correct. Judaism today is more fractured that Protestantism. You have untold numbers of rabbis making declarations that supposedly become "law" in Judaism. "Corn is leaven" is a good example of that. It is total confusion. There is virtually no understanding of the scriptures among the Jews.
Roman Catholicism is just as bad, maybe even worse. It leads people straight into Satan worship.
Think what you want about Dr. Bob, but he posted some really good info fron the RCC:
While some Roman Catholic writings are correct, certain contradictory Roman Catholic writings/prophecies teach that Antichrist:
Will cite scriptures as proof of His Messiahship
Will keep and promote the seventh-day Sabbath
Will teach against idols and an idol-related Mass
Will teach that the Catholic religion is false
Will renumber the Ten Commandments
Will be Jewish
Will “observe the Jewish rites”
Will have supporters who teach against the trinity
Will preach the millennial gospel of the kingdom
Will preach that there is a coming future opportunity for salvation
Will come after thunders, lightning, earthquakes, mountains being leveled, and great hail
Will win the “battle of Armageddon”
Will come after the destruction of the Roman Empire
Will claim to be the Messiah
Will have those that appear to be resurrected saints with him.
https://www.cogwriter.com/news/prophecy/most-who-claim-christianity-will-not-recognize-jesus-when-he-is-returning/
Quoting Bob Thiel as a legitimate source discredits you. His grasp of church history and theology is sophomoric due to his continual use of Armstrongite mythology as the starting point of his so-called interpretations.
DeleteAnd I assume that list can be supported by scripture 6:02?
DeleteEh, that's Rome trying to get out in front in order to maintain it's "credibility". Rome has always fought against the truth. That list of things that supposedly discredit Messiah at His return are biblically accurate qualities that confirm Him as Messiah. Catholics don't know that because they've been fed lies their entire lives.
DeleteThe return of Messiah will not be pleasant for the vast majority of "christians".
Roman Catholicism leads people straight into Satanism? Do you have any hard evidence on that? I'm RC, and I've never had any desire to worship Satan in the 30+ years since I rejected Protestantism and
DeleteArmstrongism.
Like the poster said, you've been fed lies your whole life so you don't realize you are worshiping Satan. His ministers present as angels of light, remember?
DeleteMiller Jones
ReplyDeleteI appreciate your pointing out the difference between the Second Temple Judaism of Jesus’ day and Rabbinic Judaism. Seeing Second Temple Judaism as Rabbinic Judaism is the logical error of presentism that is prominent in Armstrongism in my view. An example is their interpretation of Jesus’ statement that not one jot or tittle would pass from the Law. They do not realize that Jesus was referring to temple-centric Judaism. In temple-centric Judaism, the principal Holy Days were observed in Jerusalem. After 70 AD, Rabbinic Judaism repackaged the Torah so that all Holy Days could be kept in the local synagogue. I think the reasoning in Armstrongism is that if the Jews keep the Feast of Tabernacles locally then Armstrongists can too and yet remain in compliance with the Torah. The authority for converting the Torah observance of temple-centric Judaism into the Armstrongist practice or the Rabbinic practice is sketchy.
So, the logical error of presentism is found in the Armstrongist version of Torah observance. It is also found, I believe, in their view of who the Jews are. They believe that the Ashkenazi are the Jews contemporary with the Biblical writings. But at the time of the Biblical authors, there were no Ashkenazi. The Ashkenazi are a mix of Jewish and Southern European ancestry (from the Italian peninsula). They are Diasporic Jews of mixed ancestry. But their partial European phenotype fits nicely with British-Israelism.
Armstrongists must understand that if the Torah is written on their hearts and the Torah is defined by the jot and tittle statement of Matthew, it is not referring to Rabbinic Judaism but is referring to the temple-centric Judaism of the Second Temple period.
Your essay contains many good points.
Scout
It's funny. I don't recall HWA or the members of his ministry making more than casual reference to the Talmud. Which is to say that they had very little understanding of Rabbinic Judaism. In fact, I actually found out about the Talmud from one of my Jewish buddies in High School, not from years of WCG sabbath services or Bible Study. He described it in terms of accumulated wisdom.
ReplyDeleteThe other body of work from that general period which HWA dismissed or ignored we have discussed here before, and that is the writings of the Antenicene Fathers. I can almost understand him dismissing the Deuterocanonicals, or Apocrypha as some call it, and the Nag Hamadi documents, but for someone who claimed to be restoring early Christianity, it appears that he was willfully and perhaps selectively ignorant in his scholarship. Al Portune Sr. once gave a sermon which heavily quoted from the Maccabees without saying one dismissive word, and I once heard Rod Meredith poo poo the Antenicene Fathers in First Year Bible class, but aside from that, our "spiritual guides" blatantly ignored a huge volume of essential work! Josephus was sometimes superficially quoted, but there was no deep understanding of his works either.
BB
Byker 11:51 wrote, “it appears that he was willfully and perhaps selectively ignorant in his scholarship.”
ReplyDeleteThis was due to the mystique of HWA. He was the end-time Apostle raised up by God to bring the true Gospel to the last generation. He was inspired of God, so it goes. If you have those kind of credentials, you don’t need to look at historical resources or anywhere else. He was his own authority although he characterized himself as being in the “hot seat” directly under God’s governance. HWA said the following about academia:
“Through the years in God's Church, I have learned that GOD could not use as Christ's chosen apostle, to LEAD His Church and Work, a man whose early training and education had been in the universities of Satan's world! Christ has had to purge out of chief positions in His Church those steeped in such education… That's why Jesus Christ had to choose as His apostle for the present time one UNinoculated with this world's satanic educational poison.”
-- HWA, “How Christ Chose and Educated His Apostle,” Good News, Oct-Nov 1980
Scout
Yes, Byker and Scout,
ReplyDeleteHerbie constantly tried to undermine any and all intellectuals. As Scout's quote suggests, he portrayed a college education as poison. I believe that Herbie did this for a number of reasons. It is apparent that his own lack of formal education was a sore spot with him. He had to take down anything that might make him feel or appear inferior to others. Moreover, it was essential for his own show and brand that he discredit traditional Christianity, and scientific and historical scholars. He, at the very least, understood that such folks threatened his message and control of his audience.
I am glad too that Byker raised the issue of the Deuterocanonical works and Josephus. They provide the essential foundation for understanding Second Temple Judaism and the world which Christ was born into - without some understanding of that, the above post will appear as unintelligible gibberish to Armstrongists (and that ignorance was one of the many tools which Herbie employed to twist history and the Scriptures).
After all, the Hebrew canon ended with the Persians in control! Although the book of Daniel mentions the Greeks and the Romans which followed them as what was coming next in the story, there isn't any detailed account of what happened between the close of the Old Testament and Christ's birth. In other words, without the Deuterocanon and Josephus, there is zero understanding of where or how the Sadducees, Pharisees, Festival of the Dedication, Herod the Great, and the Romans came to be in charge! The Gospels simply take all of this background for granted. Hence, its absence renders a proper understanding of the world of Christ impossible!
Finally, as Scout so skillfully pointed out, without this awareness, one cannot really appreciate what a catastrophic and life-changing event what happened in 70 CE really was! For both Judaism and Christianity, there was the world before 70 CE, and the world after that year. In short, it is almost impossible to overstate the impact of what happened that year! Moreover, ignorance of all of this context is what makes it possible to say that the Roman Church was the Great Whore who changed the Sabbath in the Fourth Century and to recast the meaning of the prophecies in Daniel and Revelation.
Thus, as we are discussing a significant part of the mechanics of Herbie's deception, that is why we are hearing the crickets chirping on the Armstrongist side. I wouldn't be very hopeful about see any of the usual apologetics from that side which our posts here usually generate (although the Great Bawana may be brave enough to say something). They simply do not have the resources to challenge the thesis of this post!
I got a chuckle while reading your HWA quote, Scout! So, HWA's God chose instead a man steeped in this world's advertising and salesmanship! What wonderful perspectives that choice brought into play! HWA apparently missed the irony in his deep introspective moments!
ReplyDeleteSeriously, by rejecting the materials I cited in my original comment, HWA missed out on the step by step early evolution of the Christian religion and Christian thought, and how Christianity expanded into a world class religion! The Apostles and the succession of those on whom they lay hands were just beginning to figure the meaning of Jesus out, to realize that He was to be preached to the gentile cultures, to expand upon the basic message as an outgrowth of their inspired discussions, further experience and growth. (Iron sharpening iron!) HWA did not recognize evolutionary processes as being beneficial. In his mind, following inception of a given commodity, degeneration and decay were inevitable in their occurrence. He seems to have been of the opinion that God, intead of guiding the evolutionary processes, somehow waned in His guidance of and interest in the process, and allowed the most important event in the history of mankind to become diminished and corrupted. Until HWA's ministry! What do we even do with that? Makes no sense at all.
BB
Millar and Scout thanks for your posts/comments here.
ReplyDeleteYou are indeed correct Scout, Judaism was ‘repackaged’ after the fall of the Temple and the ceasing of sacrifices etc etc etc. A fascinating history followed the dispersal of Israel after 70 AD into the nations. New books defined what this Judaism is to be, Talmud for example, which rewrote the history of the past and laid the foundation for what we see in the synagogue today. Judaism is fractured today. One sees modern Israel deeply divided. Old Jewish joke is that every town has two synagogues. One you attend and one you wouldn’t be seen alive in lol. What hasn’t changed is Pharisaical attitudes are still alive and kicking within Judaism. Perhaps Armstrongites have something in common with Israel after all ha ha. Enjoy your day.
Lonnie, what I've found is that for all but a very few intellectually inquisitive members of Armstrongism, the intertestamental period (time of Hellenism), the historical materials of the Antenicene period, the works of Josephus, and the Talmud are all new and fresh materials. It's not as if these records were examined in depth, processed, and factored into Armstrongism, they were totally unexplored, largely ignored, and in many cases, forbidden. Particularly the Antenicene Fathers were branded with the "C" word (Catholic), and dismissed, despite the fact that they were part of the chain of laying on of hands to which all churches from the Adventist movement including Armstrongism and COG-7 claim to be heirs.
ReplyDeleteI do not expect any of these groups to change that situation, either. At this point, all that they teach is written in stone, and there is no further seeking of truth. Their body of research is static, not dynamic. If anyone from any of the ACOGs did make a study of these bodies of work, it would be to find quotations to lift from context to support their current beliefs. That type of "research" has always been their legacy. It's a pity, but it is also now consistent with the times and politics in which we live.
BB
A good source of information Jewish-Christian interactions is Rabbi Newman's Jewish Influence On Christian Reform Movements. This book shows that Judaizing movements have always existed on the fringes of Christianity. They were never a part of the mainstream of the faith, nor were they ever a continuing movements that lasted for hundreds of years. They would spring up, and only last for a short period of time, then dissappear into history's dustbin. JIOCRM should be available in any big city library, and I believe you can buy a copy at lulu.com
ReplyDeleteCan we at least spend some time and talk about the insane false prophet Wade Cox from CCG (Christian Churches of God)? Since we haven’t gone through what that clueless man has to say in a long time, what do you guys have to say about him, and what are your opinions?
ReplyDeleteCan you give me an example? I check out his stuff occasionally but he is s bat shit crazy that most of the stuff he says nakes no sense at all.
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