Herbert Armstrong's Tangled Web of Corrupt Leaders

Friday, December 12, 2025

Lucifer and Jesus Were Elohim's

 


We've all had front-row seats for decades to the spectacular show of people vanishing down the Armstrongism rabbit hole, only to emerge years later, wild-eyed and desperate, frantically digging through the deepest pits of madness for the next earth-shattering "revelation" from their oh-so-authentic "god"—a real, bona fide Elohim.

Honestly, doesn't it just warm the heart how it mirrors Mormon doctrine so perfectly? You know, that fantastical story where Lucifer and Jesus are brothers, and the grand prize for everyone is ascending to full god-and-goddess glory in some gloriously unhinged, fanatical fairy-tale kingdom.

But wait—let's give a special shout-out to Wade Cox, who's out there tirelessly plumbing those same depths of lunacy to serve up exactly the same steaming pile of nonsense. Truly, originality in Armstrongism is overrated.

Does any of this make sense? 

Introduction

God created the Spiritual Creation Aeons ago. These were the sons of God called Elohim or gods. He then created the Physical Creation, beginning with the Universe. The sequence and purpose is explained in the text How God Became a Family (No. 187). The Spiritual Creation became split over the intent and purpose of the Physical Creation and a third rebelled under the Covering Cherub Azazel or Satan-el, and later Satan, having lost his el status. 

 

Satan had experimented with the creation of humans over the two million years of the optimum period for the creation of intelligent life in the Earth's main star system for whatever reasons known only to him, and the Almighty, and failed repetitively. About twelve thousand years ago the earth became tohu and bohu or waste and void. God the Father, Eloah, the One True God sent the Elohim to the earth under Michael and Satan to recreate or refurbish the earth and create the Adamic species, commencing with Adam and Eve in 4004 BCE. The refurbishment was to take six days and that interval was to be used as the outline plan of the creation of mankind and the isolation of the Holy Seed in mankind to become the selected training nucleus of the human host that was to be selected through God's Omniscience and the Divine Prescience and Predestination (No. 296) of the One True God Eloah from the foundation of the world. He alone was immortal and whom no man has ever seen or can see and who dwells in unapproachable light (1Tim. 6:16).  He was able to see and know the thoughts and workings of the entire creation from the beginning to the end and was able to identify those who would succeed in carrying out His Will and Plan and thus determine who was most suitable to become Elohim (No. 001) and thus fit to rule the universe under the extended Elohim Host. This is also explained in the text The Plan of Salvation (No. 001A). The creation was enabled to exercise free will in the entire sequence. In that way Eloah could ascertain the mindset and obedience of all the creation.

 

All of this was hidden from mankind by Satan and the Fallen Host through their lies and the false doctrines and explanations given to humans from the outset in Eden. In this way all mankind could be tested and placed under Judgment so that the entire creation would know who was tested and who was fit to lead the universe, being those in the First Resurrection (No. 143A), in the ongoing phases after the  Second Resurrection (No. 143B) and the Great White Throne Judgment of mankind and the fallen Host (see also No 143143C & 143D). God through His Omniscience knew and predestined the Creation from the foundation of the earth, or world (Mat. 13:35; Isa. 62:11; Jer. 10:12; Mat. 25:34; Jn. 17:24) and we were selected, and our works were ordained, before we were formed in the womb (Jer. 1:5), and before the foundation of the world (Eph. 1:4). It is these humans of the Adamic Creation that were foreknown and foreseen over the Ages that would succeed and follow the Laws of God and the Testimony of the Patriarchs and Prophets and the Temple Calendar that flows from the Law and would be faithful, even unto death. It is these entities that were to form the Holy Seed and these were predestined to be born and selected and taken out to the end of the Millennial Age and the Second Resurrection (No. 143B).  

 

Adam was unable to come into Judgment until he was thirty years of age under the laws God was to lay down for the creation at the outset. Thus in 3974 BCE when Adam was thirty he and Eve both came under judgement and Eden was closed, and the Earth was cursed. Satan, being the Morning Star of the earth, became the ruler also of the Adamic creation and the God, or Elohim, of this world, including mankind (2Cor. 4:4). The Jubilees fell on the years 24 and 74 BCE and in 27 – 77 CE in the Modern Age.

And later, this:

Sifting the Grain


Satan was given rule over the earth by God for a specific purpose. It might seem counter intuitive to leave an elohim in charge that basically considers mankind as unfit to take office and become elohim over the long-term rule of the universe and be given access to that rule under Christ as elohim or become gods as Sons of God. However, Eloah as One True God, allowed that to take place as it would ensure that test procedures were in place that would ensure that only the dedicated of the Holy Seed would take office over the sequence to the First and Second Resurrections. All else would be sifted and whilst all could succeed in the plan, including the demons that rebelled, only the Holy Seed would serve faithfully and take part in the First Resurrection (or the elect portion of the Second Resurrection) and then become Morning Stars and the ranking rulers of the universe. To achieve this a filtration system had to be set in place. Satan was thus given control and he and the Fallen Host had access to the Throne of God on a more or less continual basis (Job 1:6; 2:1). The story of the test of Job was a very severe and rigorous test of one of the Holy Seed who was tested and proven under the most severe circumstances (Job 1:6-12). The entire book is a clear depiction of the tests of the Holy Seed. So also Satan tested all men, and he also asked to sift Peter like wheat, as he had Job, but was not permitted to do so (Luke 22:31). But he did manage to kill over half the apostles and also a large number of the Seventy (Lk. 10:1,17) (see Nos 122; 122B; 122C; 122D). It was in these tests that they were proven, not only in their own eyes but in the eyes of all mankind. Job was restored at the end before his death, and he will take his place at the end of Days with the other Prophets and Patriarchs and all of the Holy Seed.

11 comments:

  1. The summary of the Bible with the proper perspective of Yahweh

    Abba Father is Elyon, the Most High.

    Yeshua and Yahweh are Abba's sons.

    Yahweh tried to overthrow his Father.

    Yahweh was cast down to Earth.

    Yahweh raised an army from the Hebrews.

    Yahweh steals, kills and destroys for centuries.

    Yahweh becomes the Elohim (God) of this world through force.

    Yahweh agrees that if anyone can fulfil his Law, all humanity can go free, knowing no one will.

    Yeshua came to free humanity from Yahweh by fully submitting to Yahweh and fulfilling His Law.

    Humanity is legally free.

    Yeshua leaves to prepare a place for humanity.

    Yahweh replaces the Gospel with another that makes him the Most High -> Christianity.

    To deceive Christians, Yahweh used the prophets in the OT to predict the birth of Christ, but the real Messiah is sent directly from heaven and is not born. John is the greatest prophet of all, born of a woman. There are two Yeshuas at the crucifixion: Yeshua Barabbas (Barabbas means "son of Abba" in Greek) and Yeshua, also known as the Christ. The real Yeshua is Barabbas, but Scripture has been twisted to point to the false Messiah. Yeshua always rebuked anyone who called Him Christ and warned in Matthew 24:5 of many who would "come in my name, saying 'I am Christ ' and deceive many". The word "in" is derived from the Greek "epi," which means "superimpose." Yeshua was warning of false teachers who would superimpose His name to claim that He [Yeshua] was Christ and lead many astray.

    Paul is Yahweh's apostle (a false apostle) who preached another gospel and established Christianity from Yahweh's perspective. He set up a church structure to control the masses in accordance with Yahweh's narrative.

    WE ARE HERE!

    THINGS TO HAPPEN SHORTLY 👇🏿

    Yahweh's people rebuild his Temple and the world worships Yahweh as the Most High. He will have his own Christ through whom people will worship Yahweh.

    Yeshua returns in the flesh 1335 days before the millennium to lead the preaching of the gospel to all nations with the two witnesses. This will happen next year. The exact day can be known.

    After 3.5 years, Yeshua and His Father return to set us physically free. This is the day that no man knows but the Father.

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  2. Wade Cox writes, "Satan had experimented with the creation of humans over 2 million years of the optimum period for the creation of intelligent life . . . ."

    I asked on a previous post if anyone other than myself remembered a higher up in the WCG suggesting that Satan was involved in the creation of pre-adamic proto man. Cox seems to be promoting that idea here. I was curious where he got the idea ---his own imagination or one of Pasadena's great thinkers?

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    1. (frown) I remember some sort of rationale along those lines being said in my hearing when I was attending, but I dont recall it being something coming from the mucketymucks. Ministurd speculation, I think.

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  3. This preacher wrote, “Satan had experimented with the creation of humans over the two million years…the One True God sent the Elohim to the earth under Michael and Satan to…create the Adamic species, commencing with Adam and Eve in 4004 BCE.”

    This is a clear contradiction of scripture and knocks a hole in the origin scenario that this preacher is trying to build. We know from John 1 that all things were created by the Logos, later incarnate as Jesus. Nothing is excluded. There were not and will not be multiple subordinate creators. This is a kind of subtle lead-in to the God-as-God-is-God heresy where every resurrected human is a creator. And God is diminished in that the unique Creator status of God is made common. Instead, God states, in Isaiah 65:18, “rejoice forever in what I create.” Yet, there are people who want to usurp the role of Creator through the doctrine of humankind becoming God-as-God-is-God.

    I only sparingly scanned the rest.

    Scout

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    1. Well said Scout. The we can be God as God is, is simply folly. We have a beginning at conception, are born of a physical mother and in due course die, as all living creatures including the one who gave birth to us. That we had no say in our conception and in most cases with our death points to our mortality. That Christ had to come to deliver us from this mortal life and sin points to our helplessness. That we will be as God is at the resurrection is bunk. Except that we become us little children we shall not inherit the kingdom. The astonishing divisions among the cog movement speaks against their ability to rule, govern if you may, over humanity let alone the creation with our Father and His Son in the resurrection. We read of a future time when there will be no more sun and moon, but the glory the presence of God will be our light. Why the need for God if we ourselves are to be as God. But he who has a humble heart on this one will He look. Cheers.

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  4. Satan and his demons couldn't even pass a basic high school chemistry test, much less create any sort of life form. Satan and his mob would struggle to run a lemonade stand.

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    1. Yeah, but they sure could cook up a quick batch of Exlax chocolate cookies!

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  5. Is a female Elohim an Eloher? Or does Elohim need human females to crank out more Spirit-babies?

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