The prophecy Zephaniah was inspired to write:
Gather yourselves together, yes, gather together,O undesirable nation,2 Before the decree is issued,Or the day passes like chaff,Before the Lord’s fierce anger comes upon you,Before the day of the Lord’s anger comes upon you!3 Seek the Lord, all you meek of the earth,Who have upheld His justice.Seek righteousness, seek humility.It may be that you will be hiddenIn the day of the Lord’s anger. (Zephaniah 2:1-3)
Brethren, this is a prophetic warning to end time Christians that we are not to be independent at this time. It is telling us that those non-Philadelphians who think that they will be protected/hidden at the last minute from “the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth” (Revelation 3:10) are deceiving themselves.
Support this end time Philadelphian work, uphold God’s justice, seek righteousness, and seek humility, then it “may be that you will be hidden in the day of the Lord’s anger.”
Sincerely,
Bob Thiel
Pastor and Overseer
Notice the classic move: quote a verse about seeking the Lord, righteousness, and humility… then immediately pivot to “Support this end time Philadelphian work” (translation: send your tithes and loyalty to Bob in Grover Beach). The entire “warning” is just another commercial for the Bob Thiel Protection Plan™. Stay independent? You’re doomed. Stay home and follow God? Doomed. Fail to recognize Bob as the exclusive Philadelphia franchise holder? Doomed. Only by gathering under the one true prophet (spoiler: it’s Bob) might you—just might—get hidden. How convenient.
This is more of the same old lies. The “double blessing” was never a divine endorsement of a new denomination; it was one minister’s prayer that Bob twisted into a personal coronation. The claim that independents are automatically “non-Philadelphian” and therefore unprotected is pure invention designed to keep the tiny flock from wandering off. And the Petra fantasy? Bob has been selling tickets to the Jordanian rock city for years as the exclusive safe house run by… wait for it… Bob. You’ll get 3½ years of lectures on how right he was while the world burns. What a deal.
New Covenant Christians have zero reason to worry about this kind of slop. Under the New Covenant, Jesus is the Mediator, the High Priest, the Head of the Church, and the only One whose protection actually matters (Hebrews 8–10; Colossians 1:18). We are not saved or protected by aligning with the correct 21st-century American splinter group or by fleeing to a tourist site in Jordan under the supervision of a self-appointed overseer who still can’t get his own son to buy the prophet act. The “hour of trial” is handled by the One who already overcame the world (John 16:33; Revelation 3:21), not by a guy in a suit quoting Zephaniah while building a personality cult. True humility looks like following Christ, not demanding everyone gather under your personal brand. Bob’s entire message places the focus entirely upon himself and his cult, as usual. The rest of us can safely file it under “entertainment for people who enjoy watching someone argue with their own reflection.”
Zephaniah contains broad themes of future restoration, but nothing resembling Armstrongist end‑time prophecy. No part of Zephaniah teaches church eras, organisational loyalty, or a place of safety. Its “Day of the Lord” language is anchored in Babylon and 7th‑century Judah, not the Great Tribulation or the end‑time Church. “Gather yourselves together” is about moral reform. Revelation 3:10 is addressed to a first‑century congregation, not a modern sect in the 🇺🇸. Reading end‑time organisational warnings into these texts is simply incorrect.
ReplyDeleteI'll write more about this but if you dont have...
ReplyDelete1. A nice world hq and staff that makes you appear much larger than you are
2. A group of paid field ministers all ready for a baptising tour with their governmental control modules in place.
3. Millions every year in loose cash for google ads on your podcasts and free booklets....
then youre kinda stuck just talking about yourself.
The sad part is theres been a couple groups that went all in with the the real model and they still didnt grow a lick besides peeling off a few members from other splinters.
This mess is over in the internet age. Just people hanging onto memories of what was
Gotta laugh! Bob .Thiel is not alone in following a failed false prophet. There are still plenty of people hanging on Nostradamus's every word! So, yeah!
ReplyDeleteWhy not Herbert W. Armstrong? One false prophet is as good as the next when you are setting up your franchise!
How very Joe Tkatch Snr and retro early 1990's to attack ALL Independants.
ReplyDeleteAll!!!! Whateven is an "Independant" for such a term can be different in everyone's own eyes.
Does God not exist outside of the evangelical alliance anymore? Is God being held a spiritual prisoner and only allowed to show mercy and favor to whom who YOU choose? Do you control God's will? The whole attitude reminds me of Job's friends.
Do you want this Bob bloke stoned? Is he the scapegoat to be the 'love to hate person'? What if he has attributes God likes ? Does repentance and mercy not apply to this Bob? Is Jesus not going to judge this Bob or has Bob being handed over to you for judgement?
He has made himself a lightning rod, and one of the new symbols of a system which ruined big patches of our lives. I was fortunate in that I only spent one 19 year time cycle in that system. Ultimately, HWA is responsible for people like Bob existing, because he taught us that our eternal reward was to teach and administrate Armstrongism for all eternity, and then made it appear that his ministers had already started their reward. This was such a desirable thing in WCG circles that if HWA's system did not ordain them, people ordained themselves and then created their own back stories to support it. In you guys' slang, that makes Bob just another wanker.
DeleteHi Bob!
DeleteDid I miss something? Does Bob have a place in California that his flock can gather to now while waiting togeter for the "Petra" trip?
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