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Monday, August 10, 2026

Waiting for the King to Die: PCG’s Long, Awkward Interregnum


August 28, 2026, will mark a full twelve months since Gerald R. Flurry last graced The Key of David with a live appearance. One entire year of the “That Prophet,” the “end-time Elijah,” the man who wrote 70–80 books and booklets explaining how he alone continued Herbert W. Armstrong’s work… simply not showing up.  

The organization has lost Andrew Locher, watched more long-term members walk out the door, and watched those same departing members get publicly accused of “returning to the 6th Era teachings of HWA.”  

Meanwhile, over the last twelve months, roughly 90% of Stephen Flurry’s Key of David themes have been about… Herbert W. Armstrong.  

It is a masterpiece of contradiction so pure it deserves its own prophetic fulfillment chart.  

The ministry scolds leavers for supposedly clinging to HWA’s “6th Era” doctrines, while the heir apparent has effectively skipped the last 37 years of his own father’s writings. Those 70–80 books and booklets Gerald produced? Brushed aside like last week’s Philadelphia Trumpet. Why quote the man who claimed new revelation after revelation when you can just keep recycling the founder your dad claimed to succeed?  

It is almost as if the family is already rehearsing the post-Gerald era. Dust off the old HWA clips, soft-pedal the more embarrassing “new truths” that only Gerald received, and hope the remaining members don’t notice the stage is being reset while the original star is missing in action.  

Many inside and outside the group are, of course, waiting. Waiting for Gerald to die so that Stephen might “change things,” eliminate the most abusive doctrines and teachings, and usher in a gentler, kinder Philadelphia Church of God.  

How touching. 

How naïve.  

Even if Stephen decides to dial back the most theatrical excesses, the core remains the same. The PCG still rejects the New Covenant. It still demands Old Covenant-style law-keeping, hierarchical control, and the belief that this tiny group alone holds the “key of David.” Abusive structures do not evaporate because the aging founder finally stays off camera. A cult that insists grace is insufficient and that members must continue under a heavy yoke of performance will remain an abusive cult, no matter how many HWA reruns it airs.  

What will the next twelve months bring? More premature deaths, more quiet departures, tighter finances, and—according to one observer—the likely liquidation of the Edstone property in England for around £4 million to keep the lights on a little longer.  

Gerald Flurry is missing in action. Stephen is busy ignoring everything his father spent decades writing. The members who remain are holding their breath for a changing of the guard that will somehow make the whole enterprise less controlling.  

And the rest of us get front-row seats to the spectacle of a group that spent decades declaring “God is not the author of confusion” while its own succession plan looks like pure improvisational theater.  

The Key of David still opens the door, they insist. These days it mostly seems to open onto an empty set, a pile of ignored books, and a “For Sale” sign on the English estate.  Charming.


Twelve Months Since GRF’s Last Live KOD:
August 7, 2026 
 
August 28th will be 12 months since GRF’s last live Key of David program, and much has happened since then; e.g., the death of Andrew Locher and many more long-term members leaving the organisation. 
 
Many of these long-term-members have been publicly accused of returning to the “6th Era” teachings of HWA. 
 
Over the last 12 months, 90% of the themes of Stephen Flurry’s Key of David have been about HWA, which is a huge contradiction to the public accusations coming from the ministry towards those that have left. It’s as if Stephen Flurry has skipped out 37 years of his Dads teachings–70-80 books–almost entirely brushed over. Why would that be the strategy from Stephen? 
 
It’s as if they are already preparing for life after GRF. What will the next 12 months produce? I suspect more premature deaths, more members departing and more financial pressure. Edstone will probably be liquidated for around 4 million pounds to free up some much needed cash. –[name withheld]

13 comments:

  1. I well remember someone in my local congregation saying loudly and clearly to one and all, that he would never allow a women in his car that was wearing makeup, when the makeup rules were relaxed. He joined pcog. Then jumped ship a few years later, joining a more extreme version of the Armstrong model. I remember some telling me that some friends who had left and joined pcog, claimed they had the two witnesses. The Armstrong movement has continued to split and fracture. No growth, members leaving and so on. Once Gerry goes, the whole edifice of pcog most likely will fall down. A salient lesson for us all as we look back at the cog movement. Cursed is the man who trusts in man, and so it is as we read in Jeremiah. But what liberty and hope we have in Christ.

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    1. PCG apparently remains anti-makeup, based on a February article about Gerald Flurry.

      Even though a search on their site for "painted hussies" found nothing.

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  2. 6th Era? Am I missing something, or is that some PCG insider jargon? Jeez, these people have more insider terminology than the Church of Scientology!

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    1. these people have more insider terminology than the Church of Scientology!

      An appropriate observation, considering that the end phenomenon of PCG membership is to become an Operating Satan.

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  3. You have to hand it to the PCG though. They are ever so subtle in their doctrinal changes that the sleeping membership just goes along without questioning. I still can't get over Flurry remarrying at the age of 80 after having given entire sermons explaining that took his first wife Barbara because "time is short" and that God wants him to focus on "the work". Like how does the membership just gloss over that? They've had so many opportunities to clue in to the charade with the whole failed "last hour" and "trump will remain president" declarations. And even the the whole airplane, and Edstone boondoggles. Just a low IQ crowd over there.

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    1. Has PCG mentioned his latest divorce yet - beyond the filing? It became final in January.

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  4. People expecting a relaxation of tyranny under Stephen are sadly mistaken. Ever since Stephen bailed his father out of jail 30+ years ago, Stephen has been the power behind the throne in PCG, and has kept Gerry on a fairly tight leash. GRF has some wacky ideas worthy of Samuel Kitchen (who was a PCG member for awhile), but individually, personally, he used to be a very soft-hearted person, and (by the standard of a WCG minister, anyway) even quite entreatable. It is Stephen, far more than GRF, who created and fostered the toxic atmosphere in PCG, as can be verified by PCG members who joined in the first few years before Stephen had real influence. Since then, Stephen has been able to play "good cop, bad cop" when he wants to, putting his father in the "bad cop" role, but the truth is that Stephen is the genuinely bad cop. We should expect PCG to become even more authoritarian after GRF dies, whether Stephen turns back to HWA or whether he doubles down on Irish dancing as the true gospel.

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  5. I think of what the splinters are now and i dont like the term cult. I think that version is over. People come and go freely from group to group with far less control and multiple options for how they want to worship. I think of the whole thing more like a movement or even a generalized ideology than a cult. Some of these groups dont even have field ministries. How in the heck can you control anything if 95% of your membership has nobody to report to in person?

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    1. Steven Hassan's BITE> model (observing that cults seek to control members' behavior, information, thoughts, and emotions) is one I find very useful. Looked at in this way, PCG clearly TRIES to exert cultic control over its members. But those members aren't robots, just as former Moonies like Hassan weren't/aren't robots.

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    2. Agree totally 8:45. Many go from group to group especially during Tabernacles.

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    3. Yes...the old version was more of a cult. People had no other source of information. They went all in and then if there was doubt there was nothing besides the local paid minister.

      Im David Packs oldest son and Ive been away from this for over 30 years but recently Ive taken a bit of a renewed interest primarily just to re-evaluate my life choices includiing whether I should avoid all contact and after really investigating this deeply and spending time with him in person and taking to some members and of course others in the post member community(i wont call them dissadents becuse they arent)..... ive really changed my stance on what is happening in these groups today.

      I have.....cousins and an aunt in Living. Last name McNair. Love them but very little contact. Last time was a wedding 3 years ago. Sincere people all in. Good people.

      I have....cousins and an aunt and uncle in United. Last name Antion.

      I have cousins and an aunt in United and independents..... last name Pack

      I also have a father in RCG...last name Pack... and a sister and a brother in law i adore named Denee. Theyre writing a book about all of this.

      Like literally this mess cant go away for me lol. Ive tried and Ive tried but now in my fifties Im a bit reinvested like what the heck. I dont have a man in my immediate family who isnt ordained or writing a book lol

      My take is that the cult part of this is over. The RCG spent a dumptruck of money on the first commission. Like a literal dumptruck. Dang i feel bad for all those members. Freaking Clarion call in 2008. Common in 2011. How a small church does big things in 2014. My pops church and his partners went all in. Crazy all in. Freaking 8 years.

      Got the fancy campus like HWA moving to Pasadena. Got the HQ controlled feild ministers all set for the baptizing tour like the guys from the original AC. Then dumped millions into rewriting the bookletss, the youtube version of the world tomorrow, and google ads to turn a couple thousand into something that could sustain itself without pillaging a couple thousand members. This was an all in attempt.

      Lets just say....first commission is over lol. Besides a few hundreds of people from other splinters it accomplished nothing. My fathers sermon series is a pivot that makes sense. Thank god there isnt a round 4 of getting this silly Armstronism movement out.

      Do you know what the first commission is today?

      Its Banned by HWA and other sites like it. I have spoken for many many hours with Dennis, and the owner of this site Gary is a facebook friend who I have communicated by email. RCGs biggest antagonist Marc Cebrian I spent almost 7 hours with a couple weekends with on a Saturday when I was up in Ohio after 15 years while he was at church.

      "The church" has changed. Its not a cult anymore. Its more of a remnant of a movement. Thats the way I think of it.

      I left when I was 20 at AC. Easy peasy. Pizza at Pizza hut on the day of Atonement seemed like a better option. Nobody stopped me. I was just out. My father doesnt even sweat it. Much more interested in whether he sees his grandkids.

      Gary and Dennis and I have spoken off and on for many years. Im an older man now. I'll be weighing in more frequently for awhile. My father ive reached back out to and have asked a million questions. The RCG will be super transparent moving forward thru me or else. I wont judge him for what he believes anymore than I will all my aunts and uncles and cousins. I want a nice peaceful relationship with all of them. They get I dont belive what they do. Nobody has a problem with it. Why should I avoid them right?

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  6. Think of HWA being in the center of a web diagram. One node from the link from HWA is GRF (PCG) another node from the link of HWA is DCP (RCG), another one is BT(CCOG). It's all related to religious kooks. The Key of Dan

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  7. NEWSFLASH: Gerald Flurry has taken a new title: Apostle of the Offensive .

    He got that one right. Offensive, indeed!

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