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Sunday, January 8, 2012

Packo-Flurro-Weino-Centricism






Flurry, Pack, Weinland - Evil Incarnate


Packo-Flurro-Weino-Centricism
 
 
Dennis Diehl - EzineArticles Expert AuthorAs a child, I sat through many a Presbyterian church service.  We went twice every Sunday, morning and evening which also included Sunday School after morning church and our youth group until about 8:30 PM after evening service.  I was on churched kid!
 
 
NEVER in all those sermons did I hear our minister utter anything that he remotely thought was speaking of him, our church or his place in it all from the Bible.  He never said such a stupid thing as , "And yes brethren, I am an Apostle."  He never claimed to be a prophet , priest or king of any kind.  He never would have spoke of himself as "that Prophet" or any other for that matter.  He never bragged about how big our church was because it wasn't.  He never pushed to build a college in the parking lot.  I never heard him utter the words, "Send it in" and by that he meant the proceeds from the sale of our home and my dad's Kodak retirement.  He never used the words "incredible", "awesome", "Overarching" or "amazing" all that much.  Actually I never recall hearing those words.  He never ever read anything from the Book of Revelation that I recall which is one reason I got snookered by WCG. I wanted to know what was in it and where it came from.  Presbyterians must have learned long ago that "John" had good drugs and that book should be avoided if you wish to stay sane and have a normal life.
 
 
And this minister never ever ever saw himself in the Book of Revelation as one of the Two Witnesses.  We would have starred in disbelief and then laughed our asses off. He would have been out the door by next Sunday with a parade of new guys hoping to get selected by the board as permanent minister in about a year from then.  I'm pretty sure we would not have even known what a Two Witness was but would have seen some serious mental problems with the man.  
 
 
Not so in the COG splits, splinters and slivers huh?  
 
 
I did not personally take HWA all that seriously when he or others beat around the bush about his being this or that.  Whether Apostle or Elijah to come, I have to say (along with British Israelism) it was all a rather ho hum topic to me.  You all know how I felt about Gerald Waterhouse's perspectives.  (My kids called him Mr. Watermelon) Pure bunk which I often prayed would not prove to be the least bit true as I could see it tanking the church when it came not to pass. I certainly knew I was not going to tell the church anyone had decided it was time to "flee", whatever that meant.  Sometimes such talk and tales made my stomach hurt. 
 
 
 I never bought into GTA being the Joshua with "filthy rags " either.  Most of us, minister and member had filthy rags to worry about so how could we know if we weren't the Joshua to come?  :)
 
 
This ego centric habit that the highly untrained leaders of the Revelation based COG's is disturbing to say the least.  Who sits week after week listening to these guys repeat the same stuff about me, my and I over an over?  Where is their critical thinking?  Are they afraid to listen to that "still small voice" that I know speaks to them during most sermons that notes, "this is stupid,"  "he is nuts,"  "how does he know that,"  or "if I and my family keep following this guy, I can see a train wreck in our future."  Why do they suppress it?  Habit I guess.  I thank the gods that I did not grow up in my youth with this kind of mentality in my minister.  
 
 
One can't help the church or life one is born into, but one sure as hell can look at it and sense something is very wrong and move on.  
 
 
So, to be blunt.  Gerald Flurry is NOT "That Prophet."  He simply is not.  He's a God-Haunted man as are the others in competition with each other for the title of the most or best or truest.  Neither Ron Weinland nor his silent wife in the matter are the Two Witnesses of Revelation, and David C Pack is NOT a real Apostle who has restored anything except the misunderstandings of others he worships. 
 
 
These types don't have the theological training and education to utter such things and if they did, they would not utter them.  While David C may mock Socrates, Plato, Aristotle and Einstein (because he had "wild hair" of all things), he'd have done well to actually read them.  
 
 
Ron Weinland makes fun of science because he doesn't understand science or it goes against his form of literalism.  Nonetheless and unlike himself, when science makes a mistake they admit it, add the facts found out to the existing body of information on the topic and keep looking.  Ron simply makes a new end game with no admission of being wrong in any way at all.  It's either "God is giving us more time," or "God is not done revealing truth to us...incredible, amazing brethren."
 
 
So, what's the point?  For those who attend those groups with those kinds of leaders who have those kinds of visions dancing in their heads about themselves and how they fit into the Bible, please at least think and listen when your stomach tells you what you mind is dismissing.  When you have a choice between how your stomach feels when this or that is said and what your brain and head is telling you, your stomach is always telling the truth.  The mind is fooling you into staying a bit longer than will prove to be to your benefit. 
 
 
"Prove all things..."  Remember?  "Trust me Brethren" is a formula for personal disaster and disillusionment. 
 
 
What word don't you understand?
 
 
The COGs are excellent Bible readers .  The vast majority of the followers are sincere people or they would not put up with that niggly feeling in their stomachs they get when their leadership makes some other lame ass announcement about how it all is and where he fits into their lives.  They know what is in the Book but that's can be not much different than knowing what is in the story of Hansel and Grettal or The Emperor's New Clothes if you get my drift. 
Dennis C. Diehl
DenniscDiehl@aol.com




4 comments:

  1. I would hope that all the failed models written by Dennis would help make people more leery of "going all in" on any man or church. When you see example after example of someone being dead wrong about an issue or who they are, common sense has got to creep in. That's in addition to all those rotten "fruits" of narcissism and intolerance shown.

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  2. Dennis wrote, "
    "Prove all things..." Remember? "Trust me Brethren" is a formula for personal disaster and disillusionment."

    MY COMMENT - In today's venacular as expressed by President Ronald Reagan, "Trust, but verify" Proving all things might cause you to exit "The Church"...or get thrown out, marked for Lake of Fire eternal damnation!

    Richard

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  3. Weren't we all somewhat brain-washed, having gotten into the habit of weekly attendance, bible studies, family nights. It became habit-forming, an addiction. Plus, they always had some stupid answer that they were able to deliver with a straight face as they would yell (argument weak, yell louder) or pound the lectern to reinforce their argument.

    If only I had the backbone to walk away a lot sooner ...

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  4. "So, to be blunt. Gerald Flurry is NOT "That Prophet." He simply is not. He's a God-Haunted man as are the others in competition with each other for the title of the most or best or truest. Neither Ron Weinland nor his silent wife in the matter are the Two Witnesses of Revelation, and David C Pack is NOT a real Apostle who has restored anything except the misunderstandings of others he worships."

    True to form Dennis you've hit the nail on the head once again!

    If only ALL of the people following this "apostle" or that "prophet" or this "chairman" or that "pastor general" or WHATEVER would WAKE UP and SEE the TRUTH staring them in their spellbound-shot eyes these guys are ALL frauds and fakes and "if a blind man leads a blind man both will fall into a pit!" (Matt 15:13-14).

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