Grace Communion International/Worldwide Church of God's seminary has received accreditation. Something that none of the splinter cult "colleges" and "universities" will ever accomplish.
Russell Duke writes:
Hallelujah! I am thrilled to announce that Grace Communion Seminary has been accredited by the Distance Education and Training Council (DETC). Here is the first paragraph from the letter we received from DETC President Michael P. Lambert:
The Accrediting Commission of the Distance Education and Training Council met June 15, 2012, and it is a pleasure to advise that the Commission granted accreditation to Grace Communion Seminary for a period of three years. We extend warm congratulations to you and your staff on this initial grant of accreditation.This accredited status is effective immediately, and applies to all courses offered by GCS. The Accrediting Commission of DETC is listed by the U.S. Department of Education as a nationally recognized accrediting agency. The Commission is also a recognized member of the Council for Higher Education Accreditation. The DETC report listing Grace Communion Seminary (under “One Institution Gains Accreditation”), can be viewed by clicking here. The DETC report states that GCS was founded in 1947. This is due to the fact that Grace Communion Seminary is a business name of Ambassador College.
Dave Pack's little Ambassador Center, United's ABC center, Flurry's HWA "college", and Living's Living "university" are unaccredited puppy mills for training new ministers. All are denomination specific and hand out "degrees" that are worthless pieces of paper.
All are denomination specific and hand out "degrees" that are worthless pieces of paper
ReplyDeleteSorry if I sound cynical, but I reckon that could be said about all institutions of higher learning whether secular or not--they're all indoctrination stations that pump out nothing, but toilet paper degrees!
Anon noted: "Sorry if I sound cynical, but I reckon that could be said about all institutions of higher learning whether secular or not--they're all indoctrination stations that pump out nothing, but toilet paper degrees!"
ReplyDeleteWe know what you mean, but "all" and "worthless" is a bit of an exaggeration.
I'd take a PhD in Paelontology from the University of Penn anyday.
Well, as Gerald Flurry clarified:
ReplyDelete"We're going to teach Harvard how to be properly educated. And we're going to teach Yale and Princeton and all of those colleges that are arrogant..."
So, you know, there's that.
(http://www.pcog.info/Audio/GRF%20070811%20MyLifeLessons.mp3 -- start listening around 7:00)
I'd take a PhD in Paelontology from the University of Penn anyday.
ReplyDeleteWould this degree make a person more intelligent?
Pewter tableware can't be legally sold as Sterling Silver and just because yet another Christian Cult which has no particular reason for existence except to provide a cushy living for the men at the top who do so very little has an Accredited College, doesn't mean anything objective in term of tangible benefits.
ReplyDeleteIt's just bragging rights.
Education does not make people more intelligent any more than software applications make your CPU capable of more instructions per second.
ReplyDeleteEducation make people more knowledgeable. And because knowledge is power, it makes them more powerful.
Some degrees are worthless. Others are not. What about medical degrees? What about science degrees from research institutions like MIT?
Without institutions of higher learning there would be no computers, no internet, no satellites, no cell phones, no MRI scanners... The technological basis of the life we are used to now would not exist because all the work that was done to make those things possible was done at institutions of higher learning.
I like many of the things Grace is doing. I just can't hang with them because of all the encroachments from their past Armstrongism. That stuff is still a powerful modifier, and would spoil my Christian experience beyond what words can describe.
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"Some degrees are worthless. Others are not. What about medical degrees? What about science degrees from research institutions like MIT?"
ReplyDeleteWho needs medical degrees when God obviously heals the sick?
Who needs science when all science does is confuse people and tear them away from a Godly life?
Toilet paper, I say!
Paul R.
Andrew said: "The technological basis of the life we are used to now would not exist because all the work that was done to make those things possible was done at institutions of higher learning"
ReplyDeleteOr has all the work that's been done to make such technological advances possible been achieved in spite of "higher learning" (and not by just a few high school and college drop-outs mind you).
Anonymous wrote: "Or has all the work that's been done to make such technological advances possible been achieved in spite of "higher learning" (and not by just a few high school and college drop-outs mind you)."
ReplyDeleteIs it possible to be a successful (read: "rich") entrepreneur without spending time at an institution of higher learning? Yes. How about as a software programmer? Sure. Photographer? Novelist? Porn star? Why not? Catch is, none of these things contribute to technological innovation. These people might all be users of technology, but none of them engineer it.
Our system of higher education is/was necessary infrastructure for the industrial revolution and modern technological innovation. It is not the stumbling block to technological advancement you suggest.
For thousands of years there were virtually no institutions of higher learning. Funny thing is, there was also virtually no such thing as technology, at least not in the modern sense. Few people thought of doing things that had never been done before. No one thought of ways to allow one man to do the work of fifty men. For thousands of years the productivity of an individual worker did not change and the standard of living did not rise.
Technological innovation does not usually occur by a maverick working alone. It happens in communities where there is a sustained effort by many people who are all operating together at a higher level to chart an ever-expanding region of intellectual territory. CERN is currently operating the $10B LHC searching for the Higgs Field. The Higgs boson could NEVER be found by a drop-out noodling around in his mother's basement. Do you disagree?
Today companies have to invest in research and development to come up with competitive products, so you will find centers of innovation at private companies too, but their R&D must be limited and focused. Universities form the backbone of broad-based research communities around the world that decades later leads to vast new industries.
If you think nothing useful happens at institutions of higher learning, which would you rather have performing your open-heart surgery, a med school graduate or a med school drop-out? That's what I thought.
Are you a high school or college drop-out? Or did you pay some fringe college good money to get this ignorant?
Andrew said: "For thousands of years there were virtually no institutions of higher learning. Funny thing is, there was also virtually no such thing as technology, at least not in the modern sense...Technological innovation does not usually occur by a maverick working alone."
ReplyDeleteThat's your opinion Andrew. I simply disagree. And there's no reason to attack someone as "ignorant" just because they're of a different opinion. They may have had a completely different experience to you and that's why they've come to the conclusions that they have. I think a lot of what is passed off as "fact" at high school and college is little more than "myth" especially when it comes to human history and ancient technology. I for one don't believe modern man has a monopoly on technological accomplishment i.e. that our current technological achievements have surpassed any and all forms of ancient technology. When you look at ancient structures like the Pyramids, Machu Pichu, etc. or the vast array of OOPARTS--a lot of which are kept hidden from public display in these same institutions because they are considered too "controversial"--you begin to question the "sacrosanct" dogma that we have evolved to such dizzying heights that our modern civilization is the bee's knees!
Besides which at times it does take just one lone "maverick" to change the world. Look at Tesla for instance. Even in his case he was bullied by those with money and power just like a few inventors I know of who've had to fund their own research with little if any support, have been bullied into silence or even bought out by faceless multinational corporations that lock their devices away for good. Just my 2 cents worth.
Derrick