Herbert Armstrong's Tangled Web of Corrupt Leaders

Thursday, May 22, 2014

Bitter Bob Lashes Out At Rod Meredith - AGAIN - In His Latest Ezine: "in my dream...I called up to him, but he would never respond."


Bitter Bob has lashed out again at Rod Meredith in the latest improperly named Continuing Church of God ezine.  Bitter Bob is seeking to justify his starting of a new splinter personality cult. He does that attempting to quote scripture to support his stance that a dream he had is proof that he needed to start a new Church of God because Meredith was no longer listening to him.

The Bible records that God often has used dreams to give messages 
(Genesis 20:3-7, 28:10-17, 31:10-13, 31:24, 37:5-10, 40:5-18, 41:1-32; Numbers 12:6; Judges 7:13-15; 1 Kings 3:5-15; Daniel 2:3-45, 4:4-27, 7:1-28; Matthew 1:20-25, 2:12, 2:13, 2:19, 2:22; Acts 16:9).
The Bible shows that God often chooses to work with prophets through a dream: 
6 “Hear now My words: If there is a prophet among you, I, the Lord, make  Myself known to him in a vision; I speak to him in a dream. (Numbers 12:6)
Notice that the above says that God will speak to His prophet in a dream. Notice also:
28 The prophet who has a dream, let him tell a dream  (Jeremiah 23:28)
Bitter Bob mocks others in the COG who have had dreams in the past, but he and he alone is the only rightful man in the entire church that can receive these dreams and interpret them to fit his own narcissistic ego.  Oh wait.....he's not alone in that department!
A few years ago I had a dream, which while I did not understand it at first, as it became more and more fulfilled over the years, I began to understand it and believe it was from God.

Others have dreams brought on by malevolent spirits, but Bitter Bob's dreams are godly.

Bitter Bob now places himself on par with prophet Jeremiah and apostle Peter. 
I was 50 at the time (which essentially makes me an ‘old man’ per Numbers 8:25; cf. John 8:57). The Prophet Jeremiah at least once wondered about a message he received and later determined it was from God (Jeremiah 32:6-8), and the Apostle Peter at least once had a vision that he did not understand (Acts 10:9-17) until later as well (Acts 11:5-17). The same goes for Daniel (Daniel 8).
Next he lashes out at Rod Meredith AGAIN....
In my dream, there seemed to be two parallel lines. The presiding evangelist of the Living Church of God (LCG) Roderick Meredith was on the top line and I was on the line much below. In the dream, I kept calling up to Dr. Meredith, but he never would respond.
This lack of response made no  sense to me during the dream. Then after what seemed to be a long time, the lines-crossed with his line dropping and my line going up.
One reason that I did not understand it at the time was that I was on relatively close speaking terms with Dr. Meredith then, so that aspect made of the dream made no sense. Also, since I had no intentions of leaving Living Church of God then (and certainly no plans to start a separate church), it was not clear what the dream was saying. Another reason I was unsure about the dream then was that I had not had any anointing for the Holy Spirit beyond baptism when I had it.
Once more he has to malign and smear Gaylyn Bonjour, with the false story, that he gave him a double does of the holy spirit. There is no way that Bonjour ever had the intention of passing on a double does of ANYTHING to Bitter Bob that would cause him to start a new personality cult.  When Bitter Bob continues to tell this story it is done to malign Bonjour who now regrets ever doing such a thing.
But these matters changed eventually. For one, I was  unexpectedly anointed for a ‘double-portion’ of God’s Spirit (cf. 2 Kings 2:9) on December 15, 2011 by an LCG minister named Gaylyn Bonjour.
Now Bitter Bob whines that Meredith distanced himself from him and essentially ignored him.



Furthermore, over time, Dr. Meredith became more distant from me, would not keep various promises to me, and ultimately stopped speaking with me. And after I got a letter from him on 12/28/12, it was clear to me that there was no way that the Philadelphia mantle could be with him or any of his remaining leaders. These subsequent events showed me that the dream was being fulfilled. This dream gave an outline of what would happen in the future and that has happened.
Next he tells about another laughable dream he had where God spoke to him and Bitter Bob said, "Here I am,, send me."
 I also had another dream (and do not recall precisely when, but it was prior to 2012) reminiscent of a vision that Isaiah. In that dream, I recall responding to a request from God and saying, “Here I am, send me” (cf. Isaiah 6:8).
Of course now that Bitter Bob is a global encompassing work, none of the other COG's cannot compare to his magnificence. All any of them seem to do is ignore him.  They laugh at him and mock him for his dreaming of silly things.
Despite what the Bible supports, most Church of God groups do not seemingly accept that there are any prophets today, nor do they seem to accept that God actually sometimes speaks in dreams in the 21st century–some, oddly, seem indignant of the very idea.
Part of the reason for this is that those self-proclaimed ‘prophets’  outside of the Continuing Church of God have tended to be proven to be false.
But that does not mean God doesn’t ever use dreams or have any in the office  of prophet. The Bible shows that God can pour out a ‘double-portion’ of His Spirit (cf. 2 Kings 2:9-15) as what happened when an ordained minister so prayed and anointed me on December 15, 2011.
 April/June Bible, News Prophecy Mag

9 comments:

  1. Sing along to Bobby Darin's Hit "Dream Lover"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVHAQX5sSaU

    Every night I hope and pray
    A dream lover will come my way
    A minister to hold in my arms
    And know the magic of his charms

    'Cause I want... a church
    To call my own
    I wanna dream minister
    So I don't have to dream alone

    Rod Meredith, where are you?
    With a love, oh, so true
    And the hand that I can hold
    To feel you near as you grow old

    'Cause I want ...a church
    To call my own
    I wanna dream minister
    So I don't have to dream alone

    Someday, I don't know how
    I hope that Rod will hear my plea
    Someway, I don't know how
    He'll bring his love to me

    Dream lover ...until then
    I'll go to sleep and dream again
    That's the only thing to do
    Till all my freaky dreams come true

    'Cause I want ...a church
    To call my own
    I wanna dream minister
    So I don't have to dream alone

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  2. One reason many Armstrongites "do not ... accept that there are any prophets today, ... some, oddly, seem indignant of the very idea" is because HWA taught that there are no New Testament prophets today because now we have the Bible.

    HWA even said there appeared to have been no prophets since the Apostolic era.

    HWA also said Prophets had no authority over members but simply related the will of God by direct revelation because the Bible was not yet complete.

    Most Armstrongites remember that is what HWA taught so it is only natural that they would be disgusted to see someone discard that doctrine like trash.

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  3. Improperly Bitter Bob is also Lonely and Desperate Bob. Elsewhere on his website, he writes:

    I am still willing to assist LCG as well as other groups on this, if they truly will love the truth over improperly published positions.

    "Still willing"? ROFL! It is painfully obvious that Bitter Lonely Bob is desperate to find somebody to stroke his ego and pay attention to him. What Improperly Bitter Bob seems unable to recognize is that the ACOG leaders valued him for his big tithe check, not for his wild ideas and delusions of grandeur. No ACOG leader will listen to Improperly Bitter Bob, I'm sure, unless he starts forking over $20,000 or more per year.

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  4. Oh, the heartbreak of unrequited love.

    The problem is, horoscopes also give one an outline of future events. Except they don't.

    Maybe the song would be better rewritten as:

    "Dream Loser"

    By "Bitter" Bobby "Darin" Thiel

    Every night I hope and pray
    Dr. Meredith will look my way
    An "Old Man" in my arms
    So I can touch his magical charms
    Now I got (yeah-yeah, yeah)
    A line (yeah-yeah, yeah)
    To call (yeah-yeah, yeah)
    My god (yeah-yeah)
    But I'm a dream loser
    Because I have to dream alone

    Dr. Meredith, I'm calling you
    Presiding Evangelist, oh so true
    Why won't you answer me?
    I'm a prophet, can't you see?
    So I got (yeah-yeah, yeah)
    A "mantle" (yeah-yeah, yeah)
    To call (yeah-yeah, yeah)
    My own (yeah-yeah)
    But I'm a dream loser
    Because I have to dream alone

    I'm a prophet now, you disavow
    A double portion, you disagree
    But still our lines crossed somehow
    But I'll make you notice me

    Dr. Meredith, "Here I am"
    Take pity on a lovesick lamb
    I'll go to sleep and dream of you
    Till all my dreams come true
    So I got (yeah-yeah, yeah)
    A flock (yeah-yeah, yeah)
    To call (yeah-yeah, yeah)
    My own (yeah-yeah)
    But I'm a dream loser
    Because I have to dream alone

    Please don't make me dream alone
    I beg you don't make me dream alone
    No, I don't wanna dream

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  5. Or how about...

    "Status of Prophet (I'm Special)"

    By The Pretender (a.k.a. Bitter Bob Thiel)

    Got status — of prophet
    Got double — I am gonna use it
    I'm dreaming — I feel inventive
    Gonna make you, make you, make you notice

    Got lines — I'm much below
    Been calling up — Charlotte leaning
    I'm dreaming — it seems so crazy
    Gonna make you, make you, make you notice

    Gonna use my blog
    Gonna use my church
    Gonna use my dreams
    Gonna use my portions
    Gonna use my "mantle"
    Gonna use my, my, my imagination

    'Cause I'm
    Gonna make you see
    There's nobody else here
    No one like me
    I'm special, so special
    I gotta have some of your attention give it to me

    Got a double portion — I can't be wrong
    I'm a prophet — I'm not sorry
    I've got status — I'm winking at you
    Gonna make you, make you, make you notice

    'Cause I gonna make you see
    There's nobody else here
    No one like me
    I'm special, so special
    I gotta have some of your attention
    Give it to me

    http://youtu.be/-7Hy7uAb_eU

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  6. This is starting to take on the aura of a lovers' quarrel or spat! Hell hath no fury like a (fill in the blank) scorned!

    BB

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  7. I was unexpectedly anointed for a ‘double-portion’ of God’s Spirit -


    HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

    This guy is killing me!

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  8. Like many of these self styled church o'god leaders they lust for recognition and position. It is like a sickness with them. They just can't stand to be average run of the mill people they must be somebody or they go bananas.
    Sad and ugly at the same time.

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  9. Annonymous fellow song parody writer above:

    BRILLIANT WORK! Excellent, and with my applause!

    LOL!

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