My other favorite self-appointed Church of God prophet is the Great Bwana to Africa. He is so magnificent that he leaves Prophet James Malm trembling at his kitchen table in abject frustration.
The Great Bwana to Africa is back up to his old tricks trying to justify his self-appointment as the ONLY prophet in the Church of God today. All other prophets are just dime store imitations sent by Satan to deceive the church. Not the Great Bwana though! He is the "real" deal!
The Great Bwana to Africa is using Norm Edwards, again, as a justification of his prophetic status. Seriously? Norm Edwards? While he is good at doing charitable works for others, his theological rants are about as absurd as the junk the Great Bwana and James Malm writes. Ultimately, not worthy of a New Covenant follower of Jesus.
The Great Bwana to Africa, the end-time Elijah, the reincarnated Elisha, the embodiment of Amos, the true Joshua, and whatever name his magic eight-ball leads him to each day, says this:
What a crock of nonsense. He is NOT ordained as a prophet, he set himself up as one. No matter how much he tries to rope Gaylon Bonjour into this nightmare, he is still not a prophet. Given the fact that Bonjour is NOT qualified to ordain a prophet makes this silliness even more absurd. No human Church of God leader today is able to pass on any "rank" that is from God. Every single one of them has disqualified themselves by teaching heresy, making false prophecies and abusing the brethren.Norman Edwards was the editor for Shepherd’s Voice magazine. He is not part of the Continuing Church of God, where, I function as its human leader (and am an ordained prophet; the only known such ordained prophet in any legitimate Church of God group).
It does not take a rocket scientist, or even a talking jackass, to tell us that the current batch of Church of God leaders are false prophets.While Norman Edwards and I have long disagreed about aspects of church governance and various matters of doctrine, we both agree that many who are in or claim to be in the Church of God (COG) wrongly do not accept that God has any prophets today and that Laodicean pride gets in the way. We also agree that most have severe difficulty identifying one who really is a prophet because of various unscriptural biases and improper criteria that they have.
Anyone that follows the lies of the Great Bwana to Africa is going to have SEVERE prophetic misunderstandings.Because of false prophets in a couple of COG-related groups and a disbelief in prophets by most of the COG groups, the non-Philadelphian COGs have a lot of severe prophetic misunderstandings.
The Great Bwana to Africa goes on to list 41 silly points that he thinks PROVES he is the true Prophet of God and all other COG prophets are wrong. You can see that silliness here.
As if anyone in their right mind would care what some disturbed leader of LCG or UCG claimed about the Great Bwana! Seriously, who cares? Given the track record both churches have in lying to the brethren and abusing them, why would ANYONE care what they said?Some will come up with their preferred rationale as why not to agree with the position of the Continuing Church of God (CCOG) on these matters. Yet not only is CCOG’s position biblical, it should be noted that leaders in the Living Church of God and/or the United Church of God confirmed to me personally that I was biblically correct on all the above points, despite the fact that their respective churches hold to several of the errors pointed out above. Those who rely too much on a compromised ministry (Ezekiel 34:7-10) to teach them prophecy that is not truly in accordance with scripture need to realize that according to Jesus’ words in Revelation 2 & 3 and Luke 21, only relatively few Christians will be protected from the hour of trial that will come upon the whole world.
As Norman Edward’s article points out, it is scriptural to now have prophets according to the New Testament. But many who truly believe that they live by the word of God have discounted or overlooked what the Bible actually teaches and/or have been influenced by others who have done the same or worse. The COG has at least one demonstrably true prophet today, yet most in the greater COG world seem to be able to ignore the truth about that, like most ignored John the Baptist and others in their day.
The Great Bwana to Africa is lecturing the church about pride. Hilarious!Pride is a bigger problem for Christians than most realize.
For anyone who is a follower of Christ; that person knows that all of the belchings by COG prophets is useless. Christ, through everything he accomplished, invalidates all of the self-appointed COG prophets today. No one in the church needs them today. Those who follow Jesus know that their rest is in the one they follow and in whom they place their worries about some upending trauma that might happen in the future. Their confidence is assured in that salvation and not in some fool in a Church of God who set himself up and who lies through his teeth.
Well, there ya go....there is going to be run on butthurt cream tonight in Arroyo Grande.
ReplyDeleteThese people who claim to be prophets, apostles, etc are not only not. They are just plain human excrement, a blight upon humanity and Christianity. I would trust Michael Milkin before any who insist on being leaders of Armstrongism. Clearly, they are in the wrong line of work, or they would be meeting with at least modest success.
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Bob, Dave, Gerald and Company ain't no 5's
ReplyDeletehttp://blog.hospitalityresourcesinternational.com/2011/04/the-impact-of-ego-centric-leadership/
The Impact of Ego-Centric Leadership
“Level 5 leaders display a compelling modesty, are self-effacing and understated. In contrast, two thirds of the comparison companies had leaders with gargantuan personal egos that contributed to the demise or continued mediocrity of the company.”
Jim Collins says his research showed that gargantuan personal egos do not lead to corporate success. In wondering why, here are a few observations:
Ego-centric individuals are all about themselves. As such they have difficulty creating the relationships with followers that sustain the efforts of an organization. While they may drive results by their force of will in the short-term, they often create resentments and divisions that harm the organization over the long haul.
Ego-centric leaders think they have all the answers which make it hard for them to listen to other opinions or to become educated beyond their own pre-conceived notions. A lack of understanding of the true situation drastically hampers their chance for success.
Ego-centric people tend to attract and retain “Yes Men” while driving away “A” Players. Strong subordinates expect to participate and be heard and will not long stay in a job where they are not given an opportunity to participate in decisions or make a difference. As pointed out in Good to Great, when the ego-centric leader departs, there is not a strong successor waiting in the wings or any depth of talent in the senior management ranks.
Ego-centric leaders want all the credit for success and are more likely to blame others for failures. Followers are quick to grasp this selfish behavior and have little respect for or desire to support such a leader. Without the willing involvement of followers no endeavor will succeed for long.
Ego-centric people want to be star players and do not build teams In this modern age, enterprises and endeavors are far too complex for any one person to completely grasp. Success can only come by assembling a team of talented individuals who understand all the relevant disciplines and can implement them effectively.
Ego-centric leaders are incapable of empowering others. It’s just not part of their makeup to care enough about others to make the effort on their behalf. Without empowered employees at all levels of the organization, problems will abound.
While an ego-centric leader can achieve spectacular success by force of will and personality, he will never “build the enduring greatness” of a Level 5 leader "
It is one thing for Bob to claim, "I am a prophet."
ReplyDeleteIt is quite another thing for Bob to claim, "No one else but me is a prophet."
The former is hard to believe, but prophets throughout history have made that claim, especially when God has called them to make actual prophecies (not Bob's waffling, speculative stuff).
The latter, however, is a sign of severe egotism and, yes, PRIDEFULNESS.
Herbert Armstrong was clearly ego centric in his leadership and attracted the like minded. An ego centric personality with the Bible as ammunition to feed the problem is a bigger problem.
ReplyDeleteThis accounts nicely for the rise of men in the Council of Herbert's lesser gods who Restore, Continue, Unite, are Living and have all the brotherly love one could wish for.
Eventually they fulfil, Iseeya 14:
1"How thou art fallen, oh shining star of Herbert Armstrong. You will be cut down who did weaken the brethren.
2 You said in your heart, I will build my own work and claim my own titles. I will raise my work above Herbert's!
3 I will sit in MY Auditorium and MY Office in the far reaches of the North, South, Midwest and West! I will make myself top dog and make myself like Herbert Armstrong.
4 But you shall be brought down to the grave...
5 Those who see will just stare at you and wonder, "is this the man that said "If I ever get off into...." "2008 is IT!" and "I had a dream" and made the world chuckle?
6 Who made them share all things common and eschew football? Who wants to drag you into the desert when the time comes? Who refuses to let you fellowship with friends and family not of the Cult?
7 Meh!"
that whole prophet thing kills Bob's credibility....and it's a shame since he has so much good material on his site.
ReplyDeletePRO-STITUTE OR PRO-PHET ??
ReplyDeleteIn the COG it seems that it is only a fine line difference.
ReplyDelete“Are there REAL COG prophets in our midst?”
Yes, there are very real FALSE prophets in our midst, so be careful.
Could you sue a minister for malpractice if he anoints you for healing and you catch false prophet syndrome?
ReplyDeleteDennis Diehl says at 3:31 AM, "Ego-centric leaders are incapable of empowering others."
ReplyDeleteThat must be the source of my problems. I simply cannot delegate authority. I have to get somebody else to do it for me.
Almost arrested for Sabbath Keeping, doubly blessed Doctor from degree mill Bob Theil said, " "The COG has at least one demonstrably true prophet today, yet most in the greater COG world seem to be able to ignore the truth about that, like most ignored John the Baptist and others in their day."
ReplyDeleteMY COMMENT - Since according to Thiel, God opened the door of animation to his grossly misnamed Continuing Church of God, why doesn't Cartoon Bob make an animation explaining this truth to us all by depicting himself being rejected by "the greater COG world"? He might have better results. Cartoon Bob would "shake the nations". Yeah, right and pigs fly!
Richard
"demon strably true" okay... does he mean the few correct guesses, health diagnoses and other non-verifiable claims involving dreams?
ReplyDelete"he has so much good material on his site"
I have benefited from some of his research and information sources, and often came to different conclusions. But that also applies to material at PCG, RCG, ICG etc..
the door of animation
ReplyDeleteHe needs better voice actors, like the real Sideshow Bob!