As usual, the emphasis is on the law. apparently, members are "arguing with scriptures" to deliberately not do what God church leadership expects of them. It's always something they need to be doing. They are constantly being tested and examined by an angry god. Imagine just resting and truly having a Sabbath rest. Christ says that is what he brings to the table.
A Matter of Heart: The Bible states that God looks on the heart (1 Samuel 16:7) and that David was chosen to be king because God saw that David was “a man after My own heart” (Acts 13:22). But what exactly did God see in David’s heart? God saw that David was a person “who will do all My will” (Acts 13:22). God saw that David was teachable and that he “loved” God’s law and meditated on it daily so he could learn God’s mind and gain God’s perspective (Psalm 119:97,105). David did not argue with the Scriptures or look for ways to get around instructions that God clearly revealed in His word (Psalm 119:16, 18, 27). David praised God with his whole heart (Psalm 119:1–2) and he repented wholeheartedly when he realized that he was wrong (Psalm 51). This is why David will reign as king over the children of Israel in the Kingdom of God (Ezekiel 34:23). We need to remember that God is examining and testing our hearts (Psalm 7:9). If our thoughts, words, and actions reflect what God is looking for, we will be given the opportunity to reign with Jesus Christ and with David in the coming Kingdom (Matthew 19:28–29; Revelation 5:10). The Bible reveals that our reward will be based on what is in our heart!
Have a profitable Sabbath,Douglas S. Winnail
They tell their members to not argue with scripture or look for ways around biblical instruction, then do exactly that by lording it over the members. It's the do as I say but not as I do thingy.
ReplyDeleteEven banana republics demand that its citizens obey it's rigged rules, otherwise they can't plunder the country.
Scratch the surface of these types of articles in ACOG-land, and it's always obey, otherwise our abusive shenanigans won't work.
eh, the leadership (in all COGs for that matter) should stop arguing with scripture and start following it...forget about what HWA said and go with what God says...there would be quite a few changes if that ever happened.
ReplyDeleteBe like david. Bang your neighbor and then kill her husband.
ReplyDeleteAny chance of getting back in the LCG after doing that? ZERO. EVER.
What a bunch of phony crap. David, my butt.
It would be interesting to see what Robert M. Price thinks of David.
ReplyDeleteEven more interesting is that Dr W is most likely using a fictional Biblical character as the template for what LCG members ought to be like. No different than encouraging everyone to be like Jack and his beanstalk adventures. If a character like David, as presented in scripture, can end up "a man after God's own heart", no one has anything to worry about personally. If the antics of Lot in the scriptures gets him the title of "Just Lot" in Hebrews 11's great men of faith list, we're all good to go.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.humanreligions.info/did_king_solomon_exist.html
"Many of the archaeological props that once bolstered the historical basis of the David and Solomon narratives have recently been called into question. The actual extent of the Davidic empire is hotly debated. Digging in Jerusalem has failed to produce evidence that it was a great city in David or Solomon's time. And the monuments ascribed to Solomon are now most plausibly connected with other kings. [...] Neither David nor Solomon is mentioned in a single known Egyptian or Mesopotamian text. And the archaeological evidence in Jerusalem for the famous building projects of Solomon is nonexistent. [...]
David and Solomon are such central religious icons to both Judaism and Christianity that the recent assertions of radical biblical critics that King David is no more a historical figure than King Arthur, have been greeted in many religious and scholarly circles with outrage and disdain. Biblical historians such as Thomas Thompson and Niels Peter Lemche of the University of Copenhagen and Philip Davies of the University of Sheffield, dubbed biblical minimalists by their detractors, have argued that David and Solomon, the united monarchy of Israel, and indeed the entire biblical description of the history of Israel are no more than elaborate, skillful ideological constructs produced by priestly circles in Jerusalem in post-exilic or even Hellenistic times.”
"The Bible Unearthed" by Finkelstein & Silberman (2002)1
David and Solomon, the united monarchy of Israel, and indeed the entire biblical description of the history of Israel are no more than elaborate, skillful ideological constructs produced by priestly circles in Jerusalem in post-exilic or even Hellenistic times.”
ReplyDeleteWhat the post-exilic returnees did regarding ancient Israel was in many ways like what Joseph Smith did regarding the ancient Americas. They imagined and described an ancient precursor of the culture they sought to promote in their own day, but while doing so they inadvertently projected into that ancient past a few anachronisms that would let later scholars figure out the con.
According to the proverbs of "Solomon": He that answers a matter before he hears it, it is folly and same unto him.
ReplyDeleteSo, according to the bible, church leaders are fools for thinking they know the answers without first looking into paganism. They should compare paganism to the bible and find out where their religion really came from.
Speaking of Jack, the beanstock story is possibly 5000 years old.
I keep telling people that Herb wasn't the first plagiarist in the world. It's an ancient tradition. Even Jesus didn't exist. He was written into history, based on Horus of Egypt (which represents sin, by the way).
Even Jesus didn't exist...
DeleteThe rise of Athiesim in all it's stupidity.
The LCG members cannot look to Doug Winnail to be an expert on Holy Scripture, as he is well known to mangle verses in all of his writings.
ReplyDeleteWinnail wrote: "If our thoughts, words, and actions reflect what God is looking for, we will be given the opportunity to reign with Jesus Christ and with David in the coming Kingdom"
And, Winnail cited two verses: Matthew 19:28–29 and Revelation 5:10
However, neither of those verses actually say what Winnail said they do. That is because Winnail preaches a counterfeit gospel of saving yourself with works (thoughts and actions) instead of salvation by the works of a perfect Savior.
This why the people of the LCG should challenge Winnail and search the Scriptures themselves without Winnail's evil influence.
Atheism is a myth! The singularity is a myth too!
ReplyDeleteFrom Websters:
myth
/miTH/
noun
noun: myth; plural noun: myths
1.
a traditional story, especially one concerning the early history of a people or explaining some natural or social phenomenon, and typically involving supernatural events.
What is the point Tonto is making?
ReplyDeleteBaffled.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous Nov 22, 1:56 PM said...
"What is the point Tonto is making?
Baffled."
I'm baffled too. One kind of singularity consists of the infinitely tiny and dense core at the center of a black hole. I had to look up the other in Wikipedia: "The technological singularity—also, simply, the singularity—is a hypothetical point in time at which technological growth becomes uncontrollable and irreversible, resulting in unforeseeable changes to human civilization."
The first is an entity, not a story; the second is a story, but a prophecy rather than a myth.
And atheism is not a story but a way of arranging one's belief system: atheists frame a model of the universe with no god in it. The Big Bang Theory is a myth, according to the definition Tonto gives. Most current cosmologists tell it within an atheistic frame. However, it fits just as well within a theistic one.
Atheism is most assuredly not a myth. It is a modern day plague within today's Christian world. As well as a established way of thought in society outside of Christianity.
ReplyDeleteThe existence of this blog is merely one tiny aspect of a much wider situation going on.
This blog exists because of the cadre of garbage men who are church leaders who have and continue to abuse church members, both physically and spiritually. Add to that the psychological abuse that is destroying the rational thinking of members and you the resulting cesspool of filth that pretends to be first century Christianity. From mentally ill fools who self appoint themselves as God’s new doubly blessed prophet who dreams irrational dreams to megalomaniacs like Weinland, Pack and Flurry. These despots are no more Christian than my cat is, though it has more love than any of these stinking turds have.
ReplyDeleteThere would be no need for this blog if these fools were actually followers of Christ, which they are not. Until you as a church member start holding your leaders accountable, some one else has to do it. So get off your complacent ass and do something about it!
Thank you for all you do!!
DeleteAnon, November 21, 2020 at 7:12 PM, said:
ReplyDelete"...Winnail wrote: "If our thoughts, words, and actions reflect what God is looking for, we will be given the opportunity to reign with Jesus Christ and with David in the coming Kingdom"
And, Winnail cited two verses: Matthew 19:28–29 and Revelation 5:10
However, neither of those verses actually say what Winnail said they do. That is because Winnail preaches a counterfeit gospel of saving yourself with works (thoughts and actions) instead of salvation by the works of a perfect Savior..."
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Doug, as usual, is into preaching Fear Religion with his thinking that God is a dummy, and needs to test and watch and see how we respond to some vague tests...looking to see if we are naughty or nice. God accomplishes things by His Spirit (Zech 4:6) and without that Spirit in our lives we are in trouble. No test needed to know that!
But Winnail's counterfeit gospel is all about self and works, Doug believes are needed so that God can see if we meet Doug's conditions/requirements and thus qualify to receive a reward and reign (code for: lord it over others) with "another Jesus" during a 1,000 year Mickey Mouse Millennium with David. Really? Doug is being driven by another spirit, a spirit Christ recognized that inspired the Pharisees (Matthew 23:24-35).
How far is Doug off base with his timing? When will David live again? Does it not make sense that David will be resurrected when a prophet (not a Bob Thiel) like Isaiah is made alive again? Two verses to consider:
David did not give a pass to David with his premeditated murder of Uriah:
"Because David did [that which was] right in the eyes of the LORD, and turned not aside from any [thing] that he commanded him all the days of his life, save only in the matter of Uriah the Hittite." I Kings 15:5
Despite that, David will live when Isaiah lives again:
:19 "Thy dead [men] shall live, [together with] my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew [is as] the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead." Isaiah 26:19
Isaiah will come up with a whole bunch of others in a resurrection over a 1,000 years beyond the first resurrection. David will join them all at that time.
Doug thinks his "another Jesus" is coming soon, but time will tell. Doug thinks David will be there with that "another Jesus."
Is Doug, driven by another spirit, snared into earning his salvation by his own works, and snared into believing both a counterfeit gospel, and "another Jesus," with false timing?
Time will tell...
John
P.S.
ReplyDeleteThe sentence saying "David did not give a pass to David with his premeditated murder of Uriah:"
Should be corrected to say: "God did not give a pass to David with his premeditated murder of Uriah:"
John