The blog Living Armstrongism follows the Philadelphia Church of God cult very closely and does not hesitate to expose their lies and deceptions. Gerald Flurry and his boys in Edmond have been infuriated that Joe Biden was elected President of the United States, especially after Gerald Flurry received a revelation from his resident demon that Trump was going to be reelected or would be put back into power after Biden's election was exposed as illegal. Gerald Flurry went on his video broadcasts and spouted this nonsense, preached it in sermons, and wrote extensively about it in his church rags.
Here we are in April of 2021 and Flurry is having to eat his words, or is he?
In early February 2021 PCG released the March 2021 issue of their recruitment magazine, The Philadelphia Trumpet. Here Gerald Flurry's false prophecy that Biden would not assume the presidency met with ignominious failure and the PCG leadership had to desperately explain it all away. PCG's false prophecy of Biden not assuming the presidency is merely one of many false prophecies produced by PCG since its founding in 1989.
This issue had a circulation of 248,523 issues.
Gerald Flurry has an article trying to explain away his false prophecy that Trump would remain as president by implying that Trump would later return to power.
The side article condemns President Biden's inauguration.
Stephen Flurry has an article denouncing President Biden and attacking his legitimacy to lead as president. It is absurdly insinuated that the January 6 insurrection was the work of left wing infiltrators. He cites the presence of one individual, John Sullivan, amongst the insurrectionists as evidence that the January 6 insurrection was somehow the work of left wing infiltrators. But a little fact checking reveals that Sullivan's presence proves nothing as may be seen here and here.
Stephen Flurry has a side article insisting that sometimes a leader is not legitimate if PCG's God does not recognize that person.
Gerald Flurry has this to say about his failed prophecy:
I do feel badly about some people being upset or angry, but that’s OK if God has something He’s trying to get across to them. We don’t ever have to apologize for God! He is always right in every prophecy and every word of the Bible. If we make a mistake, we have to realize that and apologize. I’m a flawed human being. We’re all going to make mistakes. But maybe this mistake is a little different from other mistakes. Maybe it led us into some understanding we direly need.
Sometimes God does things very differ- ently than how we would. After all, He does have to get our attention. He knows how to put His message across.
Even looking at it the way I’m talking about it, you could say, Flurry made a four-year mistake in his prophecy. But the first-century apostles thought Jesus Christ would return in their day—so they were 2,000 years off in their thinking! And they certainly were much greater in doing God’s work than I ever will be! It shows you that there is much we don’t know that we have to wait and let God show us.
Finishing God’s Work
One thing is certain: God is going to bring Mr. Trump back. We know he’s coming back—it’s in the prophecy! It’s just a matter of when. It will happen at most in four years—yet I can’t con- ceive of it being anywhere near that length of time. It could be much quicker—we will see.
Why? Because with radicals in power, how could God’s work be completed? When the devil is motivating people, God’s work is their number one target! Already God had to intervene and stop the evil that was happening, or the name of Israel would have been blotted out—and God’s work is at the heart of that name of Israel. The devil would like most of all to get rid of us. WHY I STILL BELIEVE DONALD TRUMP IS COMING BACK
And here we thought Bob Thiel was crazy!
The attitude of COGs leaders should be "thy will be done" rather than "my will be done." They need to consider the reverence God demanded in the OT towards His holy of holies, which represented His throne.
ReplyDeleteIt's the old story of ministers becoming so accustomed to pushing members around, that they begin to feel that they can manipulate and control God as well.
Gerald Slurry notes:
ReplyDelete"I do feel badly about some people being upset or angry, but that’s OK if God has something He’s trying to get across to them. We don’t ever have to apologize for God! He is always right in every prophecy and every word of the Bible. If we make a mistake, we have to realize that and apologize. I’m a flawed human being. We’re all going to make mistakes. But maybe this mistake is a little different from other mistakes. Maybe it led us into some understanding we direly need. "
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We can all imagine a lot more real human things you could apologize for than just being chronically mistaken and daft in your theology.
Actually we should find many reasons to apologize for your God since , like you, He/It/She seems incapable of doing it themselves a well.
Yes you are a flawed human being, so drop all the lofty titles and opinions about your theological superiority to all around you and on the planet. You are a confused Bible reader with a dominant and arrogant personality.
"This mistake" is not "a little different from other mistakes". That's the more subtle way to say you weren't "really mistaken". Before you even said that I thought, "I bet next he makes this mistake an open door for God to reveal more to us". Viola! Dave Pack's favorite waffle and , in reality, just another way to say "I wasn't really wrong. Just the timing."
Here's reality Mr Flurry. You will die sooner or later. You're not special. Neither am I. Your kids will follow. So will mine. Dave Pack will die and never see Jesus walking on his AC, Ambassador Cloned, fake college. In his case I suspect all that he build will either be bought up by some evangelical mega church locally which is even now larger than his entire worldwide delusion or be the premier drug rehab center for the rich and famous. All built on the backs of sincere but incapable of calling your spade a spade members.
Everyone cuts you and Dave, and others of lesser note, way too much slack. While entertaining to those who are not under your sway, you are poison in the well of sincere Bible readers making the scriptures mean what they never did mean or could mean and seeing yourselves spoken of in them. That's delusional thinking with religious content. That's theological insanity. It will not end well for anyone and if there ever was a Gospel Jesus of history, it is yourselves who will hear a most famous quote "....I never knew you".
ReplyDelete“If we make a mistake, we have to realize that and apologize. I’m a flawed human being. We’re all going to make mistakes. But maybe this mistake is a little different from other mistakes. Maybe it led us into some understanding we direly need.”
So true. Gerald is very, very, very flawed
ReplyDelete“If we make a mistake, we have to realize that and apologize. I’m a flawed human being. We’re all going to make mistakes. But maybe this mistake is a little different from other mistakes. Maybe it led us into some understanding we direly need.”
Ah, yes. The direly needed understanding that Gerald Flurry is Satan's lying false prophet.
ReplyDeleteThe ENABLERS of Satan's False Prophets
and SUPPORTERS of Satanic Imposter Cults
Philadelphia Cult of Flurry
Top: Some unqualified bums and shameful busybodies got Flurry to set them up as so-called “ministers,” “elders,” and “deacons” in his cult so that they could pass off their own satanic abuse as the “government of God.” As long as they support all of Flurry's perverseness, Flurry supports their perverseness.
Bottom: The PCG people try to be better than anyone else in any other splinter group by becoming and staying more ignorant than anyone else and by behaving worse than anyone else. In Flurry's anti-family cult people get to pretend that they are “righteous” for divorcing their wives to chase after other women, and for totally abandoning their own children and parents, and for behaving worse than unbelievers. Some old sex maniacs, sex perverts, and predators joined Flurry's cult so that they could prey on younger people. They like to pretend that they do so much for their victims and try so hard to help them. They also slander their intended victims and get them kicked out if they do not go along with it. That is simply the plain truth about Flurry's satanic filth cult.
Restored Cult of Pack
Top: Some people who were not qualified to become real ministers nevertheless got set up as so-called “ministers” in Pack's cult to help him implement his “common” theft doctrine that he “restored” and to mindlessly agree with whatever other nonsense and wrong date guesses that Pack makes up.
Bottom: Many supposedly sincere little sheeple thought that they would persevere and sacrifice and support the truth of God, but somehow ended up getting talked and talked and talked into supporting a Pack of lies instead. These masochists now appear to be suffering from a severe case of “prediction addiction” and seem to enjoy being strung along mercilessly from one wrong date guess to the next one, and to the next one, and to the next one.... They look like some of the unluckiest people around. When people are that unlucky, they could end up destitute!
Continued below...
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Cult of Weinland--Preparing for the Kingdom of Weinland
Top: This appears to be some sort of family-run prophetic fantasy fiction reading Book Club for silly old women.
Bottom: Foolish old women who are into crazy fantasies and who are attracted to convicted criminals had a chance to be Ron's pen-pal and visit him in prison for 3.5 years. They also get to help with The Family's expenses for travelling, shopping, and dining out.
Continuing Cult of Thiel
Top: Thiel promoted people in Africa so that they would promote himself in return. It seemed like a win-win situation for all the title-hungry types. Lose, lose, lose for everyone who wastes their time listening to any of them.
Bottom: Thiel thinks that people in Africa belong to his cult, but they also belong to other cults too, and yet do not really belong to any of the cults. They are more like financial drains than like financial supporters. At least they will not have to worry about having the sin of having financially supported a false prophet troubling their consciences. They could honestly argue that they did the opposite.
Note how on the Trumpet cover the term "President of the United States" has an asterisk next to it! Sort of like when Roger Maris beat Babe Ruths single season home run record, 61 to 60, but had 8 extra games to do it in. (Baseball had a 154 game schedule which was changed to 162 games in 1961.
ReplyDeleteWe’re all going to make mistakes. But maybe this mistake is a little different from other mistakes. Maybe it led us into some understanding we direly need.
ReplyDeleteSometimes God does things very differently than how we would. After all, He does have to get our attention. He knows how to put His message across.
I don't know if this is a verbatim quote, as I haven't read the source article.
Let's pretend it is is a least a good synopsis for a second.
Even after being a former member of the PCG I still believe in God.
But the argument that "we had to make a mistake so God could show us the truth" just doesn't make any sense at all, from any viewpoint.
Besides not being scriptural.
What is this "we made a mistake" stuff?
ReplyDeleteVery convenient to switch tense from first person to third person so that the blame gets shouldered by the whole organization.
Why not own the many titles you claim and the very obvious mistake all in the same sentence?
If a member makes a mistake, it's always "YOU made a mistake." If a minister makes a mistake it's "WE made a mistake...it led US into some understanding..."
ReplyDeleteSo it's the usual privatize the profits but socialize the loses.
In 99% of the cases WHEN a minister makes a mistake it’s ‘shut your mouth, IF a mistake was made God will correct it’........meanwhile the member suffers the fall out.
DeleteAnd if Gerald Flurry makes a mistake, it’s everyone else’s fault that he misspoke.
DeleteBoy, someone needs to nail down those goal posts!
ReplyDeleteLiving Armstrongisim another rebel within the ministry blog hey. No wonder everything else goes undone.
ReplyDeleteI had a look at this article from the magazine. I don't like to read Splinterist prophetic material, even if it is only for evaluative purposes. Their transparent use of questionable exegesis is frustrating. Their special pleading in arguments is quickly cloying. But I had a look anyway. I gave one page a cursory scan. Real Millerite stuff.
ReplyDeleteThe whole argument seems to hinge on Amos 7 and 8 being identified as the Great Tribulation which we all know (somehow) comes at the end of the age, therefore, Jeroboam has to be Donald Trump. Or something like that. How that argument was forced to congeal is not really germane to my point. What I would like to point out is the arbitrary recruitment of scripture for special pleading through the use of that old favorite: the type-antitype model.
Here is my parody:
Cain killed Abel. Then Cain went into exile. Cain is a type of a latter day Splinterist leader. We know this refers to a religious leader because when Cain offered to the Lord, he was functioning in the role of a priest. So this means that, as a recognized and credentialed priest, he has to be a type of an end-time recognized leader in the one and only true church. The fact that he killed his brother is a prophecy that this end-time Splinterist leader will go apostate. And the fact that Cain goes into exile is a type of the Splinterist leader falling into Great Tribulation at the end of the age. We know this because Cain's going into exile is a type of the Great Tribulation. . . etc. We are 99.99% sure of this.
That was not very artfully done. It was spur of the moment. But you get the drift. The principle I object to is that anyone can take the type-antitype model and use it to underpin any speculation no matter how specious. This use of the model is totally unregulated. This kind arbitrary application operates outside the boundaries of normative exegesis. It's sole authoritative support is the cred of the speaker.
Not for me.
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There was a pope that said Jesus was a myth. The first mistake in Christianity is to fail to recognize that.
ReplyDeleteGerald Flurry might die of old age before Trump gets back in.
ReplyDeleteBiden stole the election. Flurry stole the church. What ticks God off more?
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