Herbert Armstrong's Tangled Web of Corrupt Leaders

Wednesday, November 3, 2021

We Interrupt This Program to Bring You This Special Report:

 It's Friday Night Live!

 




"Dear brethren,

A note to clarify timing is needed. Every indicator now points to Friday night, not Thursday.

In fact, more points could be added to what we know per the Sabbath, not a new moon, which Paul said would be a shadow.

It had not occurred to me or anyone that every point you heard could apply to the very next day, with more besides.

It would take too long to lay out all that has been learned, but this is simply to say the picture carries one more day. We could certainly hope for Thursday, but the chances are possibly zero.

Continue your patience, and God speed the day!

The Member/Co-Worker letter will arrive soon.


In Christ’s service,

David C. Pack"



19 comments:

  1. Dave is mentally/chemically hooking his members on dates. It's calculated mind twisting.

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  2. If Dave were delivering a message from God to His people, the first date he ever set would have been accurate. He is at best an unreliable messenger, and at worst a false prophet speaking presumptuously.

    Hint to RCG members: Your continued tithes and common will not improve Dave's accuracy. Neither you nor he can will Jesus' return through your faith. Your lack of faith, conversely, cannot prevent Jesus' return.

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  3. 948 noted: "Hint to RCG members: Your continued tithes and common will not improve Dave's accuracy."

    Nicely noted. Dave seems to have convinced the brethren the more you pay, pray, stay and obey the more finely tuned his ramblings will become and the math is still correct. I'm seeing ends in sight...

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  4. He's making less sense as time goes by. I'm convinced we're seeing Pack descend into terminal mental illness. We can only hope his family can intervene before he does something extremely dangerous.

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  5. Pack is obviously a very sick mental case. The fact that he has followers that endure this kind of stuff, shows that there are a lot of people out there with severe issues too.

    Pack's followers are in need of major counseling and deprogramming, as they are as addicted to Pack as much as someone is to Meth Amphetamines, Cocaine or Heroin.

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  6. Every indicator now points to Friday night, not Thursday. It had not occurred to me or anyone that every point you heard could apply to the very next day, with more besides. Then again, if Monday was Thursday, Friday wouldn't be Tuesday. This is important because if Wednesday happens before Sunday, the polar orbit will maximize to its fullest potential unless Thursday comes first. This is all fresh information unless the grapevine has waxen to a minus thirty degrees top dead center. That would be unfortunate, because that would indicate that March the 21st in now the 15 of January, minus of course the third of June. More revelations to come.

    David C

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  7. Wear your white on the rooftops! Millerites assemble!!!!

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  8. Why don't you people realize how important I am? If you knew what I know, then you would know that I know more than you know. That's because I am me, which you, unfortunately are not. That aside, send me your assets as soon as possible, all of them. I have important things to do, and I need your money, all of it, now. Remember, I am important, and you can have a part in the success of that importance. More revelations are on the way. Herb said to say Hi!

    Dave

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  9. The vast majority of Christians, let's say 99.99 percent, will witness Christ's return a split-second after they die, when they are resurrected to consciousness as Spirit-firstfruits.

    Only a relative few will be alive when He returns, and even they will "die" as they are transformed into Spirit.

    So why the obsession not only with "knowing" the timing of Christ's return but with being alive to see it? Will Christ be more pleased with someone who was loving his neighbor up until the last possible minute, or with someone who spent time at his computer dutifully reading a minister's date speculations?

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  10. Is this really writing in regards to His return or is it something else he is referring to? Because that truly is worrisome if he is speaking about the return of Christ on that date.

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  11. Dave said "Why don't you people realize how important I am?"

    I do know. It's just that you came up with this Second Coming, so quickly, just one night away now and I don't think I can get off work tomorrow

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  12. It sounds like Satan has possessed David C. Pack. The symptoms include diarrhea of the mouth and uncontrollable vomiting on his hearers. Plus all the “common” theft.

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  13. With what Armstrongites have historically been taught about their leaders, authority, and anointed ones in general, what do we expect splinter members to do when it is painfully obvious that their particular leader is in meltdown mode?

    That would depend upon the shape which the meltdown takes. For an Armstrongite, continued false prophecies, if they follow Herbert W. Armstrong's interpretation of Daniel and Revelation are not a problem, no matter how frequently they are made and turn out to be wrong. For an Armstrongite, financial demands upon members, no matter how extreme, are also not a problem. That is the way in which they express the value of what they are being taught. Repeated examples of cruel exercise of authority, or demands which co-opt the very concept of the personal matter, or a personal decision, are once again, not a problem. In a perverse sort of way, members crave this sort of attention from their leaders, and do not consider it as abuse, but rather as personalized instruction. They assume that their own attitudes are the problem, and adjust. A great moral meltdown of their leader is not even a reason to walk away for Armstrongites, as they have been conditioned to defend him by dramatizing the sins and failures of various leaders in the Bible, most chiefly King David.

    In Armstrongism, corrective changes to, weakening of, or repudiation of the core doctrines would be the only factor interpreted as a meltdown no matter how sincerely, coherently, Biblically, or logically these were explained. This would be unforgivable, and most likely, 50% of an Armstrongite congregation would consider it to be worthy of a walkout. Those who walked would most likely align themselves with another teacher who appeared to be teaching the original precepts, even though he behaved as the leaders described in paragraph 2. Many would go independent, continuing to keep the core doctrines at home.

    We wonder sometimes, how these leaders can continue in spite of their own abominable behavior. The calculating ones realize that the only factor which could possibly make them lose their "conditioned" members would be to come clean, to correct their own bad behavior, and to begin to behave as a normal person with human guilt, and compassion, and to realize just how embarrassing their behavior as a leader has always been. History proves that there just are not too many people willing or able to do that.

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  14. If Christ is coming today, why does DCP say the co-worker letter would be coming soon? He doesn't seem to even believe what he is saying.

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    1. I thought the same thing. I guess he covering all his bases.

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  15. David Pack has prepared a place of slavery for you. Rejoice!

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  16. Former WCG hireling, who left his ministerial credentials in Passadena like so many other hireling of the scattered groups, Dave wrote:

    "Dear brethren,

    A note to clarify timing is needed............

    In Christ’s service,

    David C. Pack"
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    Perhaps Dave would like to have Jesus assist him to clarify that timing?????

    John 10:12 "But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep.
    13 The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep."

    Dave, stop pretending to be that shepherd. You are a hireling and you fled. You are amongst the scattered many who were formerly a part of the WCG of the past. You have never clarified correct timing!

    Will Dave finally succeed in clarifying timing for us of that return of his "another Jesus" (Dave may want to team up with Doug Winnail, Jim Franks, Flurry, Weinland, etc.) to very soon return to reign on earth for 1,000 year, and perhaps have some safety in their counsel?

    Time will tell...

    John

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  17. Anon, November 5, 2021 at 2:25 PM, said:

    "...Why leave out Kubic John?"


    And Anon, November 5, 2021 at 9:01 PM, said:

    "...I thought the same thing. I guess he covering all his bases."
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    It appears that both of you already know Kubic's name could be there, along with Weston, and many others, as well. There was no need to keep stringing more names there. You figured it out already and got the point.

    If you see Jesus return very soon to reign on earth for that 1,000 years, well, then let us all know about it, but will you be waiting a very long time before you acknowledge Jesus Christ reigning on this earth for that 1,000 years?

    Time will tell...meanwhile, may you have a great day!

    John

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