Herbert Armstrong's Tangled Web of Corrupt Leaders

Sunday, January 16, 2022

As Sabbath Leaves Earth: Dave Pack and RCG Waiting for Christ This Weekend, Again.



Perhaps Dave believes anniversary of the death of Herbert W. Armstrong 36 years ago today (January 16, 1986) is another good time for Christ to return?  

I think all Dave got in Ohio this morning was the return of snow


 "It has become CLEAR that our watch will extend to the end of Sabbath   (1/15) as it leaves earth.


This is deep in the night, at some hard-to-pin-down moment BEYOND midnight here.

While waiting past sunset at Headquarters at first seemed unlikely, God laid out MANY PROOFS AT THE LAST MINUTE showing this WILL BE the case.

We look forward to seeing you soon!"




BUT WAIT! THERE"S MORE!

"In RUSHING to get yesterday’s announcement out before the sabbath, in EMPHASIZING the time of day, we NEGLECTED to remind you it COULD still be a later day.

In fact, it HAS BECOME MORE EVIDENT that we are probably at least two days away—with STILL a small chance that it could go beyond that.

In other words, the way Mr. Pack concluded his last sermon is ABSOLUTELY CORRECT, except that the likelihood of the day moved further out.

In any event, IT CANNOT GET OUT of Sebat!"


21 comments:

  1. Speaking of deep fakes, how do we know that these written accounts accurately relate what Dave is saying? Any RCG member who is still sending money to a guy who is this far off base has become an enabler, not a victim, of Dave's madness. Or is this account simply an imagination of what Dave "might be" saying right now, based on prior performance?

    About the only way any of this makes sense is that Dave might have had a "Who do you say I am?" moment with some of his followers, and when they confessed that Dave is the Messiah, the returned Christ, he told them not to tell anyone else, at which point they certainly aren't going to leave him while he's busy trying to figure out his Father's will for him and the church.

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  2. The day Dave Pack starts teaching the love of Yahshua Messiah will be the day I MIGHT give Mr. Pack my full attention.

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  3. My personal favorite doublespeak here:

    "In other words, the way Mr. Pack concluded his last sermon is ABSOLUTELY CORRECT, except that the likelihood of the day moved further out."
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    In other words, the way Mr. Pack concluded his last sermon is ABSOLUTELY CORRECT, except the part, where once again, he's badly deluded and mistaken.

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    1. Love it. This also makes no sense:

      "...probably at least two days away—with STILL a small chance that it could go beyond that."

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  4. 36 being divisible by 12 and 4, fitting in well with late 1st century Christian eschatology.

    The best number in Revelation being 144, also divisible by 4 and is 12 squared, but that's not all, it's also a Fibonacci number!

    What is the number for God? - 27 - Start with 3 (Trinity) and multiply it by itself 3 times now add the result together 2+7=9=3x3 - proof of the Trinity...for those who are wondering.

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  5. REMEMBER: Dave Pack is Satan's #2 false prophet, right after Satan's #1 false prophet Gerald Flurry. Dave is the competitive type who will be getting angry about being beaten by a little runt like Gerald, and will be trying hard to become Satan's #1 favorite. So, expect lots more lying, wrong, bad behavior from vomiting Dave the “common” thief.

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  6. I have to give Pack and Weinland credit for at least saying definitive dates and days, (that have of course failed greatly), over Bobbylonia Thiel, the Prophet, who will never nail down any specific and definitive "prophecy" so as to always have plausible deniability.

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  7. What can we possibly say about a leader who constantly sets up his devotees to be losers? Yet, from all reports, they love him for it and salivate over his every word. This exemplifies the schlemiel-schlamazel roles exposed by Eric Berne in his book "The Games People Play".

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  8. The math lines up completely. Think about it 36 years ago on January 16. Armstrong died 6x6 years ago on the 1x1 month of the year (January) and on the 4x4 day of the month.
    The math has never lined up so well. /Sarc/

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  9. Crazy Pack's thinking strikes again.

    Although as bizarre as this thinking is I remember being asked years ago about a natural disaster that occurred after Herbert Armstrong had died. I was asked 'Did I think it happened because he'd died ?'

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  10. Add a 9 to 27 and you have 36 (and 3+6=9) Three 27's is 81 (and 1+8=9)
    Add up that very special number 144 (1+4+4=9), again pointing to the Trinity. Tkach was smart to switch to Trinitarian view.

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  11. Much of the blood of Dave's victims lays at the feet of HWA and his ministers. The church culture was, and still is, that the big people ministers do all the thinking, while the little people members are to switch off their brains, and blindly believe what they are told. Several of my former ministers gave me a certain long "you're doing something wrong" look for the "crime" of thinking.
    This is in big contrast to 2Timoth 2:15 "study to show yourself approved of God, a workman that need not being ashamed, rightly dividing the word of God." Note it say WORKMAN, ie, it's an individual responsibility.

    Dave has cashed in his chips of this church perversion, resulting in widows losing their homes, and members being left destitute.

    Have the ACOGs leaders repented of this sin??

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  12. Pack teaches the same fables that all the other churches of Armstrong teach, so why in hell would anybody give a shit what any of them have to say concerning HWA?!?!

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    1. 7.46 PM
      But some Armstrong churches are more evil than others. They are all toxic, but Dave's is one of the worst.

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  13. ...we know the 12th progression of Fibonacci is 144 (also 12 squared!)
    So what is the 144th progression of Fibonacci?
    - It's 555565404224292694404015791808 -- 30 digits
    - add them up and you get 126, add these and you get 9

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  14. The David C. Pack Story of Changing Doctrines and Prophetic Guesses

    David Pack started off his own little RCG cult by claiming that he was going to restore all of Herbert W. Armstrong's old teachings from the time that HWA died on January 16, 1986. David Pack was going to reprint the old Worldwide Church of God literature from that time. However, after Gerald Flurry and his PCG cult LOST their copyright court case with the WCG, David Pack got spooked and changed his plan to rewriting the old WCG literature in his own words. David Pack said that his RCG cult's Real Truth magazine would bring responsible understanding rather than reckless speculation. This sounded good.

    However, over time, David Pack started to introduce massive doctrinal changes of his own and things went VERY badly in his RCG cult.

    David Pack made a wrong prophetic guess for August 31, 2013 that totally failed in spite of his “56 proofs” for why it would happen then. Rescheduling it for the spring time did not help. Year after year, spring and fall, it did not happen.

    Then, David Pack made up his own “common” doctrine that everyone had to send him virtually everything they had (savings, retirement plans, possessions, houses), “or no salvation if you don't.”

    Since all the teachings in the Worldwide Church of God had come through Herbert W. Armstrong, near the end of his life HWA had started to teach that he was the one who was prophesied to come in the power and spirit of Elijah to “restore all things.” In fact, when David Pack started his own little RCG cult, he initially taught that the understanding that HWA was the Elijah who had “restored all things” was a great wall of defence against doctrinal heresy. But later, David Pack gave three sermons full of “130 PROOFS” that David C. Pack was the Elijah. Amidst all that noise, David Pack posthumously promoted HWA out of the way to the office of Moses, supposedly giving HWA back to the people “two feet taller,” and took over the Elijah role for himself. The fact that David Pack had already “restored” his own “common” doctrine was one of his big proofs that he was the Elijah with the power to “restore” doctrines.

    David Pack has been very busy in recent years making up one of the longest and craziest series of irresponsible and reckless prophetic nonsense ever heard. He continues to string along his followers with more date guesses that continue to fail.

    David Pack went from sounding sensible and sincere at the start of his own little RCG cult to sounding like a raging demoniac now.


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  15. Does DP even have anyone left to preach to? Seriously, how many members does he have anymore?

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  16. When my husband died right after this past feast, one of the first things I did was to collect everything in his office related to Pack and RCG and put a match to it. It took awhile to burn it all but I didn't want anyone else to be poisoned by what was on those pages. I also didn't want the energy of it all in my house.

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  17. Sorry to hear your husband died. My condolences to u and your family. Just three-four sermons ago David Pack said the series was over. I'm sure he will come out with another part in the next week or two.

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  18. Pack is very evil . Ask his ex employees. His just a Wicked Man.

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