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Saturday, November 18, 2023

Dave Pack: RCG Youth To Be Eaten Alive, Elijah, Doubt, New Moons, Wade Cox, Kingdom Arrives April 8, 2024




It’s A Given

 

Truly desperate times have come upon The Restored Church of God. David C. Pack needed something unique to revitalize the brethren's waning enthusiasm and dwindling generosity. He dusted off a Hail Mary theological gimmick among the pages of ccg.org the Bible, and presented it to the RCG brethren as timely revealed knowledge.

 

During “The Greatest Unending Story! (Part 479)” on November 11, 2023, Pastor General and Historical Revisionist David C. Pack “restored” the observance of new moons. Roderick C. Meredith just phoned Headquarters from the grave to gloat, “I told you so, Dave,” before returning to not-alive status.

 

All this time, I considered Christian Churches of God and its pushy minions to be the Flat-Earthers of the COGs. Who could have imagined that David C. Pack would be the one to elevate Wade Cox and his Hillel obsessors into the mainstream?

 

Dave’s new moon observance was part of the larger picture pointing to a new, way-out-there date.

 

The Kingdom of God Arrives

On Abib 1—April 8, 2024

 

Dave nearly broke his foot punting the ball that far down the field.

 

 

Remember this?

 

Flashback Part 477 – October 28, 2023

@ 00:19 I love to stand up when I speak. I can be more animated and natural, but I’ve got so much paper…

 

Because David C. Pack loves to stand so much while he speaks, Part 479, two weeks later, was also preached ex cathedra. Another unwieldy stack of notes prohibited him from vertically parking behind the lectern.



That may appear on the surface to be nitpicky, but it further establishes a habitual pattern of David C. Pack’s lying even about trivial matters. The guy just wants to sit but conjures a false excuse that does not hold up to the mildest of scrutiny. Lying is not just what he does but who he is now.

 

Brethren of The Restored Church of God would be well-served to remind themselves about the source of their present new moons truths. David C. Pack is a noted blaspheming liar, false apostle, hypocrite, and antichrist advocate. The new moons verses are in the Bible, but do you really want to trust this guy’s interpretation?

 

Flashback Part 443 – May 18, 2023

@ 1:25:35 They're here because their parents tell them to be here. So, let's talk about the youth of The Restored Church of God. …Unless they fear God and start right now. So, let's talk about what God says He has in store for young people today who will be ripped up and eaten alive if they don't pay attention.

 

Flashback Part 476 – October 21, 2023

@ 1:37:06 So, when is the midst of the year? When is it? It’s October 29th. One week from tomorrow morning at sundown in Jerusalem.

 

Flashback Part 436 – April 20, 2023

@ 41:03 Now, why is this the most important sermon? Let's just say I don't care how many times I've preached. This Series would be an unequivocal abject failure if it did not end where we had the Kingdom of God in the right place.

 

Flashback Part 478 – November 4, 2023

@ 49:18 Anybody who teaches error isn’t wise, never mind faithful. That's the stupidest thing you could ever do.

 

David C. Pack sure does love his stupid. He loves it thick and often. He bathes in it. He puts it in his hair each morning. He frolics in stupid so much everyone around him gets drenched. Based on his words, The Restored Church of God has become the world headquarters of stupid.

 

And now he is the new moons authority? How does David C. Pack have any credibility whatsoever on any spiritual matter under the sun? Excuse me…under the moon?

 

 

Part 479 – November 11, 2023

@ 00:47 The Plan of God Series continues.

 

Dave keeps pushing to rebrand his prophecy series into a gospel series. If he has been focusing on prophecy while getting the timing wrong, he is a false prophet. But, if he has been focusing on the plan of God while getting the timing wrong, that was just a logistical mistake. The repackaging is intentional.

 

Fully embracing his biblical role as Elijah That Prophet, David C. Pack restores the concept of restoring truths to the brethren of The Restored Church of God. Remember, his splinter group was named that for a divine reason. Herbert W. Armstrong of The Worldwide Church of God may have restored some truths, but Dave is tasked with restoring the biggies.

 

@ 09:21 But he [HWA] didn’t restore the Kingdom and didn’t understand that. Now, Elijah. There is a man who finishes the Mystery of God. He executes it. He carries. He discharges it… conclude[s] the Mystery. And not long before he sounds. So, how does he do that? He prepares the way before the Father…He prepares a people for the Lord. John the Baptist did. Okay, he makes this vision plain. He keeps a charge. So, the question is, does he come first and restore things to the church? Would that be a fair statement?

 

@ 11:21 So, it's worth considering how much restoration has occurred…does the Bible directly tell us in a way WE just didn't see because WE got, you know, kind of carfangled around with years? We're waiting for a year. We're gonna have to look at that for a final time and see if we can eliminate all doubt. And I mean, once and for all. And I'm gonna make a prediction. I'm gonna predict (if I could), there will not be a single one of you in this room today or ever after, not one of you, not one of you, and I mean, we will have even a half a doubt about exactly when the First Kingdom of God arrives. It will be impossible for you to doubt it. I'm gonna destroy every single point of resistance in your mind as the second of two things that will be restored (if you will) today.

 

Dave will destroy all doubt. As he is oft to do with his shiny new ideas until he is inspired to discover “something WE missed.”

 

 

Fast-forwarding to the "we already knew that" punch line, Abib 1 begins God's Sacred Calendar, and the next occurs on April 8, 2024. Yes, that is next year.

 

@ 59:45 What I could do without giving you a lot more material, I could just say, “Let’s have dinner right now.” There is no way in this life the Kingdom is gonna come before April 8th…Well, as I say, there's a big, big, big rest of the story, but first, I’m gonna drive this home. And underscore it over and over and over and over again. We are not waiting for Tuesday or next Sabbath. We’re waiting for something you don’t know about, but we’re not waiting for the Kingdom until April 8th. That’s the night of April 8th, which would be dawn in Jerusalem on Abib 1.

 

@ 1:05:31 Now, brethren, I'm well aware that we’ve been to Abib before, but not with everything restoredwhere WE understood…

 

Dave makes all things new.

 

@ 1:08:33 It's a year of the Lord, and all the years of the Lord are Abib 1 to Abib 1. Now, this should be a tremendous reason to rejoice. Even if we were just gonna enjoy life for the next five months till April 8th, 'cause we've got it! We've got it! And we keep new moons.

 

If Dave were not so equally confident with his past presumptive conclusions, you could almost root for the little guy that he finally nailed it this time around. Alas, it was not meant to be.

 

@ 1:13:07 So, you’ve got a church calendar. You’ll never get another one. You’ve got your last calendar. Cherish it. It’ll tell ya exactly when this is gonna happen, and it’s impossible that it’s wrong or years from Genesis to Revelation 9 when God references a year…changed, and we could never know what would surely come.

 

@ 01:23:40 And on the next Tuesday, April 16th [2024], God accepts them [Israel]. And then, six days later, they’re keeping the Passover on April 22nd next year. It’s inarguable. I tried to be faithful to when I thought years began. I should have realized the Jews minimized the sacred month.

 

Those pesky Jewish scholars keep casting stumbling blocks before Dave to the point he needs all-wheel drive to traverse the Third Floor Executive Imaginarium.

 

@ 1:24:29 And, obviously, God allowed me to go down that road [of being wrong] or we’da been looking for the wrong year or the year (we could say), the right year at the very, very wrong time. And we would not have restored all kinds of things.

 

Being in error is part of Dave’s god’s plan for revealing knowledge to his church. The drills are paying off now because none of this information will be altered, changed, or need future clarifying. In the world of David C. Pack, it is possible to know God’s truths too early. He must forget how many thousands of years old the Bible is.

 

@ 1:26:11 Because, on Abib 1, Elijah lands at dawn in Jerusalem. Impossible to argue.

 

 

It only takes a few verses to see why Dave is making his great assumptions about new moon observance. The ccg.org website has more than enough resources to satisfy the morbidly curious where you can get lost in the theological weeds if you happen to be a glutton for punishment.

 

There is no denying we will all observe new moons in the Kingdom of God when Jesus Christ comes according to Isaiah 66:23. But the trap Dave and Wade both fell into is the inferred observance rather than a clear command post-New Testament.

 

If God listed the new moons alongside the commands for Sabbaths and Holy Days, Herbert W. Armstrong would have added that to the list of his "restored truths" eighty years ago. Sabbath and Holy Days are holy convocations and commanded assemblies. New moons are not. There is a lot of ancillary biblical support for new moon observances that encourage “because I say so” theology. If God wanted His people to observe new moons as much as He wanted Sabbaths and Holy Days, He would have said so. That seems pretty cut and dry to a simple, unordained non-prophet/non-psychic.

 

Otherwise, you have self-evident authorities like Wade Cox and Dave Pack cracking the new moon whip over your head, feeding you notions of missed salvation because you did not buy what they were selling. They are the timeshare salesmen of the COGs. You better act quickly to take advantage of this unique offer before time runs out, causing you to miss the opportunity of a lifetime…literally.

 

When I stand before the Judgment Seat of Christ, and He asks me why I blew off David C. Pack’s version of new moons, I will say, “It was not commanded. No clear instructions were given on how to do it correctly during my lifetime, so I didn’t play along with know-it-alls who pretended to have the answers. I figured you would make it clear when you were ready to.”

 

Regardless of how many verses David C. Pack puts together that make sense on paper because it is from the lips of David C. Pack, extreme caution is advised.

 

The idea that Dave is now on team CCG within the worship doctrinal spectrum is not good news for Wade and his cohorts. Having Dave inadvertently on your side is not a good look for anyone. Even you, Wade. It should be a fearful thing for Dave to agree with anyone.

 

@ 24:30 [Mimicking brethren] “You can't do sacrifices. They're not to be kept forever.” Really? Sabbaths, yes. Holy Days, yes. New moons, no. Does the church have this right? And what are the implications of it one way or another? Should the Church of God, did the Church of God have an obligation as much to keep new moons as it did Sabbaths and Holy Days?

 

@ 29:40 And no, I’m not suggesting new moons are holy, but they are equated. You know, you’re supposta absolutely be at all seven Days of Unleavened Bread, but the five in the middle aren’t holy, but you better be there. They’re not Sabbaths.

 

@ 30:11 So, new moons are sort of in the category of their sort of stand-alone moeds not in the middle of Unleavened Bread or the Fall Feast. Therefore, they're not actually holy time per se, but they are beginning to look like they’re commanded to be kept.

 

@ 44:51 Well, then maybe should we keep Holy Days? They’re just pretty much left out. No, it’s a given. The Sabbath’s a given. So, any idea, "Well, the New Testament doesn't mention new moons." Well, actually, it does. I'm gonna show you. It’s a given. It’s a given that new moons should be kept. And I would submit to you that previous ages knew it.

 

The previous ages knew it based upon what facts exactly? 

 

Going forward, any doctrine in The Restored Church of God can be instituted and required because it is designated as “a given.” David C. Pack talks until something becomes true with Because-I-Say-So authority. As time goes on, it gets easier and easier to implement. That is all the proof the folks in RCG need these days to incorporate a new day of worship.

 

The prosecuting attorney in me wants to point out that this is all circumstantial evidence and insufficient to get a conviction. This case would not hold up in court.

 

@ 45:13 And if I’m gonna be faithful with the word of God…The new moons have to be kept. Now, [chuckles] it remains to be seen how many we get to keep, you know.

 

This is a strange thing to say, considering the Kingdom of God will arrive on April 8, 2024. Dave should be able to count the new moons he gets to keep on one hand.

 

 

Based on these words by David C. Pack, I will put $20 on the table right now that the Israeli-Hamas war will end before April 8, 2024.

 

@ 1:10:40 Does this Series really go on any further? Time’s gonna go on. I mean, think about the [Israeli-Hamas] war. The war has 149 days to go. You better buckle up.

 

If Dave wants "a given," here is a good one: This Series will never end. Part 500 is on the horizon and barreling down fast. He does not know that yet, but everyone else does. Yes, he eats his own malarkey.

 

@ 1:45:18 The war will continue another 149 days.

 

The man will not and cannot ever be right. A divine repudiation of David C. Pack’s claims will be demonstrated by physical history when that war ends long before his artificial deadline. Or after. Taking a contrarian approach to all things David C. Pack is always the safest choice on the prophetic roulette table.

 

@ 1:12:32 And it’s impossible that it can go beyond Abib 1. The Mystery of God is almost over. Obviously, I wondered why I was learning and tying some big ribbons and knots and bows on this with five months to go. But, before we can get to that, I’m gonna hafta talk to you. I knew I’d hafta just stand up and explain, you know, these great truths.

 

Just stand up in the figurative sense only, of course. Dave knew he had to just stand up and explain…while sitting down. Little moments like that tickle me.

 

Using the power of presumption, often-read Hebrews 10:25 has finally been understood because it is a given.

 

@ 1:44:23 “So much the more as you see the day approaching.” So, we’re thinking assemble is a Sabbath or a Holy Day because we weren’t keeping new moons. It’s neither Sabbath nor Holy Day. They’re new moons. So, on God’s authority, if I’m His apostle, they’re new moons.

 

Based on that criteria alone, they are NOT new moons because David C. Pack is not an apostle. Not now. Not ever. He does not and cannot speak with God’s authority. He is a documented false prophet, false teacher, blaspheming liar, hypocrite, and antichrist advocate. God does not use such men to bestow knowledge to His people.

 

@ 1:44:38 Or all those verses mean something else, and let’s go keep Christmas.

 

Dave loves his All-Or-Nothing theology. To deny keeping new moons is the same as keeping Christmas.

 

@ 42:31 So, Israel kept new moons. We are spiritual Israel. We’re the tribes of Israel. How in the world could we say we don’t do it? “Well, we can’t do sacrifices.” I’ve explained that. Then, let’s shuck the Sabbath and the Holy Days.

 

If you do not keep the new moons RCG-style, then you might as well give up the Sabbath, too. The desperate manipulation is so very transparent.

 

 

The new moon development in The Restored Church of God is a monumental shift that should reinvigorate dead-brain, wide-eye swooning from the grassroots All-Believing Zealots in their private chat groups.

 

David C. Pack is eagerly trying to plant his flag on Legitimacy Hill, but Wade Cox has already been camping out there for decades. And that guy is totally dug in. Both men should agree to solve the top-dog competition by Thunderdome rules: Two men enter. One man leaves.

 

Watch out, Wade. Dave loves to sucker punch.

 

It remains to be seen how much paper is consumed by all the printing of CCG materials at RCG Headquarters. Highlighter pens are in extreme demand as Dave and his merry band of hirelings attempt to play catch-up with decades of material to absorb and adopt.

 

The RCG new moons doctrines have already shifted beyond Part 479. It is a given that they will evolve because they are figuring it out on the fly. Now, Wade Cox gets to stand quietly at the third-floor tower window, watching Dave and his cowardly enablers scramble to get a grip on this present truth.

 

The Series will go on. April 8, 2024, will come and go without a prophetic occurrence. David C. Pack will change his tune with “something WE missed.” In the meantime, Wade Cox gets to feel pretty good about himself. All of that is a given.


Marc Cebrian

See: It's A Given



9 comments:

  1. it won't be long before Trey Parker & Matt Stone put Dave into a South Park episode "respect-mah-AUTHORR-IT-TAH" 🔥💥

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  2. PACK SAYS: "So, let's talk about what God says He has in store for young people today who will be ripped up and eaten alive if they don't pay attention."

    MY RESPONSE:
    Will there be A-1 sauce, and a choice of Rare, Medium Rare, Medium, or Well Done?

    Pack is a manipulating piece of crap to say such a thing, threatening church youth with being cannabalized.

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  3. Pack's fear campaign, although deplorable, and although he does not believe it himself, is very biblical. Netanyahu and certain fundamentalists quote similar passages when catering to their orthodox base. This 3000 year old mentality is far from dead in the "modern" and "enlightened" age of today.

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  4. Isn't this the same guy who claimed, apparently without any proof, that he was descended from King David? He just makes stuff up.

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    1. King David, assuming he existed and the biblical record about him is at least mostly correct, sired a large number of children thousands of years ago. Even given mortality rates, it seems to me that mathematically he would have thousands and thousands of "descendants"! Even if you could somehow prove it, it wouldnt be particularly special.

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  5. “Dave Pack: RCG Youth To Be Eaten Alive”

    The ravenous wolf Pack is greedily devouring everyone in the RCG. There will be nothing left of them for any bears to eat.

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  6. HWA falsely claimed to be a descendant of King David also when on one of his worthless travels when he met with Haile Selasse( who likely was a descendant thru Solomon's son Menelik)I guess if you are one of leaders of the ACOGs you can make whatever grandiose claims you want. I heard there is this guy in Edmond Oklahoma that says he is about to be crowned King of England. I bet that is news to King Charles.

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  7. Assuming a new generation every 30 years, and two offspring, and some 2800 years later, and the number of King David's descendants would number something like a TRILLION. As there are only 8 Billion people on the planet, it is obvious that there is a lot of crossover in lineages.

    This is why every American President is actually related to every other president. In fact, within the last 600 years, virtually every single one of us with a European ancestry, are related, let alone 2800 years. This phenomenon is called Genealogical Collapse.

    To be descended from King David is no big brag. Virtually every single one of us can make that claim.

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  8. Wow, Tonto! That's so awesome because it means I'm actually related to Jerry Garcia!!!

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