UPDATE: Philadelphia Church of God: Take Your Disabled Child To The Mall And Abandon Him - Let Someone Else Take Care Of Him

Update:

George Witt, the Philadelphia Church of God "minister" that told a PCG family to leave its disabled child at the mall so someone else could take care of it, has died.  Good riddance to the man!

One of the reasons he wanted the kid dumped was so the family could send in the money they were spending on their child to the glorious work of Gerald Flurry instead.  The depths of depraviltiy in the Church of God has no boundaries.


This story was originally posted June 20, 2013

Just when I think the depth of depravity of Armstrongism can't sink any lower, along comes more horror stories from Gerald Flurry's cult.

PCG Told Me to Get Rid of My Mentally Handicapped Son With Cerebral Palsy:

June 17, 2013

I was told by a minister in PCG to "get rid of" my mentally handicapped son (who also had cerebral palsy) or don't return. He told me to put him in some facility, or if I couldn’t afford that, then take him somewhere that he would not know and abandon him in the mall or somewhere that people were. He said someone would find him and put him away, and that I was to turn and not look back, and just leave him there! I guess you can imagine just about what I told them!!

What helped me the most were people having the same objections and questions that I was having, wondering if these ministers in PCG really have the authority they say they did over us. The ministers try to make you feel you're isolated in your thinking, that you're the only one questioning anything. So you better get back under their submission, their rule--or suffer the consequences. (I decided to take the consequences). I am free and I am staying that way.

The ESN has been a Godsend. You have saved many people, including me and my family. We saw how others were questioning things, as we were, and realized things were just not right in there! Our feelings were right; we weren’t as crazy as others trying to pull us back in would have us think. They practice mind control there. All it takes is a few mentioning of buzz-words from them (i. e., "the Work," "the Church," "Mr. Flurry," etc.) and you start to question your own common sense and your sanity. Well, not anymore.

None are so blind as those who will not see. Well, now I see! Thanks for everything. God bless you. --Former PCG member

A comment from a reader here adds to this story:

Reading this story that is exactly what happened to William B. Hinsom. He became a WCG minister in the 1960s. However he had a mentally disabled son. He was advised by people within WCG to leave him in a facility for such people in Franklin, Tennessee. He strongly suspected that his son would die, but he trusted them, he thought the Great Tribulation would soon start in 1972, so reluctantly he agreed. His son died as feared.

Later he left WCG and wrote a book about WCG, Broadway to Armageddon (1977). You can request it from Exit and Support Network.

Naturally Hinsom focuses a lot on the terrible consequences of people following HWA's anti-medicine superstition that he plagiarized from the Jehovah's Witnesses.

Congratulations to that brave commenter. No doubt you did the right thing.

This useless PCG minister's advice reminds me of this terrible incident I heard about. There was this man who murdered his wife and then took their eight year old young daughter on a plane and he then abandoned her at an airport. Did not do him much good. The authorities learned what happened and arrested him. He is now deservedly rotting away in jail. I think the PCG minister could have been charged with something serious if his horrific advise was followed. 

Why is the Church of God In such a mess today?

The Worldwide Church of God regularly used to mock Christianity for its many different groups of believers.  How could any of them be true if they are so splintered? Garner Ted, Gerald Waterhouse, and Rod Meredith used to take particular delight in mocking Christians around them.

From it's very foundation the Church of God was a splinter group. The roots of the Church of God has direct ties to the ruptures in Adventism after the Great Disappointment with William Miller. One of the groups that formed from this split was the Oregon Conference Church of God Seventh Day.

Armstrong joined up with the Oregon Conference of the Church of God Seventh Day when his wife Loma got sucked in by the witnessing of a neighbor Emma Runcorn.  Then out of spite or stubbornness, Herbert refused to let the COG Seventh Day baptism him, so he headed down the street to the local Baptist Church where he was baptized.

After spending some time with the Church of God Seventh Day doing what HE wanted to do when He wanted to do it, he got wrapped with Andrew Dugger and Clarence Dodd.  These two men continued the splintering mess with the Church of God Stanberry proclaiming they had the insight and revealed knowledge of apostolic Christianity.  Dugger and Dodd soon started their own rebellion by proclaiming that the apocalypse would occur in 1936 and promised to make Armstrong an apostle in their church. Later Dugger headed off to Jerusalem with his own group and Clarence Dodd eventually left that fold to become the godfather of the Sacred Names Movement with itself has fractured into hundreds of Sacred Names groups that many xCOG members have joined.

Hardheadedness and rebellion was always a trait they controlled Armstrong's life, from his endless job hopping to his rebellion against the Church of God Seventh Day which he left to start his own splinter group.  So it's no wonder that in 2016 we have hundreds and hundreds of splinter groups, each proclaiming they have the restored truth that the others do not.

From apostate self-appointed Judaizer James Malm that bastardizes the gospel in order to make the law his savior to Dave Pack reigning in all of his narcissistic glory in Wadsworth uttering one failed prophecy after another. From the United Church of God that has already ruptured with various splinter groups to Rod Meredith who has made a profession out of running off at the mouth. Every single one of these groups claim they have the exclusive truth and are God's final witness.

Dave Pack, Gerald Flurry, and Ron Weinland are regularly visited by entities that supposedly give them new revelations.  Even the entities cant get their act together and are giving out conflicting messages to countless self appointed and double blessed leaders.

Rebellious, hard-headed, narcissistic men have been running amok for decades ripping the lives of thousands of members apart.  For what?   Building mini-me campuses and auditoriums, establishing useless "universities" that have accomplished absolutely nothing since their inceptions.  On and on the list can go.

Trying to recapture the "glory days" of years gone by has not worked for any of them. Getting back on track hasn't worked either.  The train is permanently derailed.

What have any of them accomplished? Where are the fruits of the spirit?How have they been a light for the Gospel?

Wade Cox Says Earth Was Populated By Reptilians That Lucifer Created After the Big Bang

Did you know that the earth was populated by reptilian beings prior to Adam?  When Lucifer came to earth he populated the earth with reptilian beings. At least that is what Wade Cox is teaching in How God Became A Family.

There is a big ark in Kentucky that is awaiting the wisdom of God's special anointed one.

This initial process was so intense and so dense by its proximity to itself. We understand this process as the Big Bang or the point of origin of the physical universe. This origin of the universe emanated from God as His product using the relativity of the spiritual creation, which is not seen (Heb. 1-3). The things that are seen are temporal. The things that are unseen are eternal (2Cor. 4:18). Countless ages later, punier minds would look back and see this process and determine by mathematics what they would call phase-space-volume selection. They would know that the origin of the physical universe had to be from one point only and no other. They would determine numerically that this phase-space-volume was 10 to the 10^th power to the 123^rd power. This number was so big it could not be written down in the normal way, even by putting a zero on all sub-particles of matter in the universe. This merely demonstrates that it could only have been confined to the one place and one place only; namely, the point at which God chose to originate the universe.

From this activity, God became the creator and sustainer of the heavens, the Earth and all things therein (Gen. 1:1; Neh. 9:6; Ps. 124:8; Isa. 40:26,28; 44:24; Acts 14:15; 17:24-25; Rev. 14:7).

The spiritual force used to create this material creation moved at such power and speed that it began the expanding universe. It needed to separate sufficiently far enough so that it could reorient itself as atoms and molecules of varying weights and complexity such that solids, liquids and gases became possible. As the matter joined in varying concentrations, so the galaxies were formed. Within the galaxies, matter re-concentrated to a sufficient density such that systems were formed and at critical mass they were ignited. This ignition was from nuclear reactions, which released the power of the sub-structure of the spirit within controlled sequences. In the physical beginning, God created the heavens and the Earth (Gen. 1:1).

The sons of God were divided into administrative systems. The universe was divided into four sectors (or quadrants). These were placed under a Being represented as a Living Creature. Each of the sectors was of three systems, with two of the Council to a system. In this way, there were twenty-four Elders in the Council with the four Living Creatures and the first-begotten or prototokos. At this time, the rebellion had not taken place and Azazel was the second anointed one.

The purpose of the physical creation was unfolded as a mystery. The sons of God had to proceed by faith. The capacity of creation was allowed to the sons of God as part of the Council of the Elohim (Gen. 1:26). The sons of God were assembled and sang for joy at the creation of this planet by Eloah. The systems had been placed under Morning Stars as leaders.

Job 38:4-7  "Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth? Tell me, if you have understanding. ⁵  Who determined its measurements -- surely you know! Or who stretched the line upon it? ⁶  On what were its bases sunk, or who laid its cornerstone, ⁷  when the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy? (RSV)

The entire universe had been placed under a system of government and order that we see mirrored later in the Tabernacle of the Hebrews (Heb. 8:5). Azazel was made Morning Star or Light Bearer for this planet (Isa. 14:12) and He was made elohim of this planet (2Cor. 4:4). Messiah is the Morning Star or Day Star designated to replace him (Num. 24:17; 2Pet. 1:19; Rev. 2:28; 22:16).

This planet was populated with created beings that were not based on our mammalian system. The Morning Star in charge of this planet produced a life system based on a reptilian system, which appears to have had some remarkable capacities. Intelligent life as we know it is thought by modern science to be only capable within plus or minus two million years of the life of the main star systems. We see from our excavation of the past that humanoids began to appear on this planet quite recently in the life of the system. What we would class as humanoids, as opposed to human-like primates, are very recent. 100,000 years ago the Neanderthals appeared and they were replaced about 40,000 years ago with another system much like ours.

At some stage in this structure, God revealed in part to His sons what the purpose of the physical creation would be. The full mystery was withheld from them and only revealed much later through the Church (1Pet. 1:12). Some of these Beings did not exercise faith in the Father and rebelled. Azazel took one third of the Host in this rebellion. At least until the time of Job, all of the sons of God had access to the Throne of God, and Satan was among them (Job 1:6; 2:1).

The exact nature of the rebellion seems to have involved a devastation of this planet and is probably the intent of the passage in Genesis 1:1-2. The planet had to be refurbished and a man created that could unfold the next sequence of the Plan of God. This was the Adamic creation. This man was in the image of God so that the Spirit could be given to him. The sons of God during this entire phase were not, and could not, be classed as angels. The category did not commence until after the creation of Adam, as until that time there was no need for such a category of being; namely, a messenger. For until such time as there existed a recipient of a message, there could be no messenger.

Let's Paaaaarty! Tribulation Will Not Begin Until 2020 or Later!!!!!

What a relief to find out this week that the tribulation will NOT happen until at least 2020!  This magnificent news is courtesy of the Almost Arrested Self-Appointed False Prophet Elisha Elijah Joshua Amos Thiel.  

Time to pop open the Dom Pérignon and have some bacon wrapped dates!

All of the blustering by Dave Pack and Gerald Flurry is totally worthless now that prophet Bob has spoken!

Will his people in Africa care or even know when the crap has hit the fan in 2020?

When is the earliest year that the Great Tribulation can?  

Various ones seem to feel that it can begin in 2016 or 2017 or that it already started some time ago. 

Those who believe and understand what the Bible actually teaches realize that the Great Tribulation cannot begin before 2020.

Jesus gave a variety of signs/events that had to happen prior to the start of the Great Tribulation in Matthew 24. Not only have many not happened, a preceding event in Daniel 9:27 involving the confirmation of a seven-year deal still has not happened. Since it did not happen as of July 7, 2016, this means that it is not possible for the Great Tribulation to begin for at least 3 1/2 years (half of a biblically-prophetic week). 

At this instant, unless we see more major conflict in the Middle East between now and the end of the Summer, it is unlikely that the Great Tribulation can begin prior to 2021.

People who claim to be COG, like James Malm and Ronald Weinland, are in error as to timing as they have looked to their own understanding instead of what the Bible teaches. 

We all know that James Malm and Ron Weinland are both liars, but this also includes Bob Thiel.  He is as big of a liar and false prophet as those two are.

The false prophet then goes on to list 35 reason as to why everyone is wrong except his holiness.

Read them all here:  The Great Tribulation Cannot Begin Before 2020!

The Almost Arrested false prophet then has to get in another dig at his surogate daddy, rod Meredith. that has disappointed him so terribly:

It should be noted that leaders in the Living Church of God and/or the United Church of God confirmed to me personally that I was biblically correct on all the above points, despite the fact that their respective churches hold to several of the errors pointed out above. Those who rely too much on a compromised ministry (Ezekiel 34:7-10) to teach them prophecy that is not truly in accordance with scripture need to realize that according to Jesus’ words in Revelation 2 & 3 and Luke 21, only relatively few Christians will be protected from the hour of trial that will come upon the whole world.

As bitter and angry as Thiel is, he just may start his own apocalypse in 2020 just to get revenge against Rod Meredith.

PCG: Biblical Manhood Must Be Confrontational

Leave it to Gerald Flurry's "boys" to tell the men in the Philadelphia Church of God on how to be real, men who are soon to be "gods."

Leave it to the immature boy-men, who have never held a real job, worked outside the PCG cult compound, or interacted with normal human beings in society, to tell older men how to act and rule their households.  These are boy-men who have had everything delivered to them on silver platters because they are married into the PCG hierarchy. These inexperienced boy-men have their education entirely from Herbert Armstrong booklets/materials and the teachings of Gerald Flurry.  None of them have any sound theological/biblical education.  None have been to a real college.

These immature little boy-men write articles for the PCG rags on a regular basis now that Lil"Stevie has taken over since his father has suffered several strokes and mental lapses.

In the latest article by Joel Hilliker on Biblical Manhood, he pontificates that men in PCG need to be confrontational.  Ministers and wives need to be confrontational with members and men need to be confrontational with their kids and wives.

Hilliker slobbers at the feet of Herbert Armstrong as the epitome of being an example of "proper" confrontation.  Armstrong was sooooooooo confrontational that he was able to stay the hand of Satan from persecuting the church.  Once Herb died, the gates of hell were opened up and Satan won the battle. Satan is one powerful dude in the eyes of so many in the PCG.

Other parts of the Bible describe what this “mystery of iniquity” was. Dozens, even hundreds, of top leaders in God’s Church were committing iniquity and plotting to fundamentally transform the Church—yet it was a mystery. It stayed underground and dared not show itself. Why? Because of “he who now restrains.” That sinister force was completely restrained and held in check by one man! 

Once God took that man out of the way, nothing was left to hold back this widespread evil influence. It took over and destroyed God’s Church. 

Speaking of this prophecy in Malachi’s Message, Gerald Flurry wrote, “There have always been people in God’s Church whom Satan can use unless they are controlled. … Christ used Paul to hold back this satanic force in his day. … It is a ‘mystery of iniquity’ because it was hidden. It dared not show itself because of ‘he’ who restrained it. He was a man who was seen and whose authority was feared—Herbert W. Armstrong.” 

This shows how determined Satan is to infiltrate and destroy God’s Church. It reveals that people in God’s own Church—which could include any one of us—can be used by Satan if not controlled by God and God’s government. It also reveals the need for vigilance and for restraining evil!

Hilliker thens needs to reenforce the idea to the emasculated men of PCG that it is their duty to start closing the gates of hell and reign Satan in like Herb did.

Men, this danger also exists in our lives, in our relationships, in our families, in our work and in our era of God’s Church. Realize that this is a core element of biblical manhood: A godly man restrains Satan’s influence!

How did Herbert W. Armstrong restrain? He restrained through his example, for sure, but he also restrained through direct confrontation. He had a God-commissioned office, he had authority, and he used it. People knew that and feared it. And through that confrontation, God blocked the volcano of evil that was boiling beneath the surface of His Church. 

It is amazing how the PCG has deified Herbert and turned him into a sinless powerful god who was stroger than Satan.

Hilliker then tells the emasculated men of PCG that they MUST be confrontational and embrace it!

We need to develop godly authority. We need to learn how to confront evil. We need to build the courage to restrain Satan’s influence. We need to become men who deal with iniquity with godly boldness. 

In fact, we need to embrace confrontation.

 Come on PCG men!  Be manly men!  Seize Satan by the balls and confine him! Keep him outside the compound!

We need to fulfill our manly duty to embrace conflict when God shows us it is necessary. If God is leading us to restrain evil, we should not shy away from confrontation: We should seize the opportunity.

One of the first ways that the men of PCG need to be confrontational is by confronting people on what they wear, particularly at church.  Hilliker then quotes the fake "evangelist" Lil'Stevie:

Here is a practical example. In our Pastor General’s Report, we have reprinted an article a few times by Evangelist Stephen Flurry called “Upholding God’s Standard in Dress and Appearance.” One of the subheads is simply: “Confrontation.” It says this: “[U]pholding God’s standard in dress and appearance also means that we—both ministers and wives—must confront problems as they arise. If we shy away from confronting problems—in this case, problems that are visible to all—then our congregation’s standard in appearance will only sink lower.

Apparently the pussy-boy ministers and fathers have been afraid to be confrontational.

“A couple years ago, my dad told me that we ministers tend to avoid confrontation whenever possible. ‘But the nature of this Work,’ he said, ‘dictates that we be people who will confront’” (emphasis added). 

Open rebuke is the key to love!  Though ministers should not lord it over their congregations, or so he says.  The track record on that proves otherwise!

Do you know what is even more beneficial than expressing love for another person?  OPEN REBUKE!

In this article to Philadelphia Church of God ministers, Mr. Flurry was not saying that they should bulldoze through the congregation, squashing everything in their path. He was emphasizing the ministers’ duty to uphold God’s law. The nature of God’s Work, of God’s Church, of God’s way of life, demands that we confront! We must be willing to take on problems and stand up to evil! This is an important aspect of the love of God! 

“Open rebuke is better than secret love,” Proverbs 27:5 says. What good is love if it isn’t expressed? It doesn’t benefit anyone. You might feel very loving toward someone, but if you’re not expressing it, it does that person no good. You know what is more beneficial than that? Open rebuke. At least then the person might actually profit from what is said. And sometimes, rebuke can be extremely helpful.

This is why the ministry has been given to the church!  Who knew that was the purpose of the ministry.  Its obviously not to heal the sick, care for the marginalized and be loving shepherds.  No way, Jesus!

God gives His ministry for this purpose, to help His people overcome evil and become perfect (Ephesians 4:11-13). They address these problems through delivering sermons and Bible studies, through personal counseling, and by stepping in when necessary to point an issue out as it is happening. When God is using a minister to correct some type of sin, it is not a comfortable thing. But that man is a tool for God to pour out His love on us! God is using him to try to help us turn away from things in our lives that are hurting us and toward the godly righteousness that will bring blessings!

Ministers of PCG are not the only ones to do this, their wives must too!  Keep those girls in potato sack dresses and in the kitchen working!

But ministers are not the only ones who have this obligation. 

Evil apparently is pounding at the gates of the PCG compound and its member homes.  I can't imagine living in such a state of fear all the time.

God confronts evil! When Lucifer became wicked and tried to usurp God, God met him head-on and kicked him and his demons out of heaven! Revelation 12:12 shows that this type of confrontation happened not only before the Earth was created (Genesis 1:2), but again in this modern era. In fact, God confined Satan and the demons to this planet on or around the very same day “he who now restrains” was “taken out of the way.” God says woe to you who live on the Earth, because Satan is here among you now! People in God’s Church saw that horrific fact in action. We witnessed firsthand the devastating consequences of failing to restrain evil. 

God allows us to live in this woeful state—having Satan cast down among us—for a reason. He wants us to learn to confront evil! 

Clearly, this is not just a job for a minister. Confronting evil is crucial for everyone who follows God! And confronting evil is not restricted to trying to overcome sin in your own mind. In some cases, you have the duty to intervene and confront evil in the lives of your wife, your children, or other members of God’s Family.

Since all PCG members are trying their hardest to become like the god they follow, it is their duty to "provoke" each other.

Each of us is striving to become like God, and God confronts evil. He tells us over and over in the Bible that we must do the same. “Let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works” (Hebrews 10:24). Provoke means to incite or even irritate. That is not comfortable! “If thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother” (Matthew 18; also Luke 17:3). “Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness” (Galatians 6:1). Temper criticism with praise; be kind—but still, take action. “Now we exhort you, brethren, warn them that are unruly” (1 Thessalonians 5:14). The English Standard Version renders this, “admonish the idle”—”comfort the feebleminded, support the weak, be patient toward all men.” 

The emasculated god-men in PCG need to start being confrontational at home before they turn that provoking fire upon the world around them.

Obviously the emasculated men of PCG need an extra pair.

If you are a father, you must confront your children. Satan is broadcasting non-stop to influence, tempt and even force people into evil, destructive thoughts and actions. He is working hard, constantly fighting the positive influence that God and you are exerting on your child. He is not afraid to confront you! 

If you are not confronting your children, you do not love them! Read Proverbs 13:24; 19:18 and 29:15. God says if you spare the rod—a very direct form of confrontation—you hate your son! If you love him, you will chasten him promptly. The father who loves his child springs into action when he sees evil. 

Our world is dominated by Satan’s influence. Because of this, your children are vulnerable—perhaps already suffering from serious sins. Children everywhere languish under parents who tackle those evil influences with insufficient force, or ignore them altogether.

Women, you are not left out of this process either, though you are to be on the receiving end:

If you are a husband, you cannot fear confronting your wife. The man who fears confrontation will one day realize that his wife is actually the leader of his home. Confronting your wife is not the same as confronting your child. She is an adult; she is your bride; she is an heir together with you. But it is the same in the sense that in both cases, you should confront it! You should exercise your authority to lead your family away from harm. You should restrain iniquity. 

Hilliker ends with this.  Obviously Cal Culpepper and his gestapo failed to get this message:

When you confront someone, whether your brother, your wife or your child, be slow to wrath (James 1:19-20). Mr. Flurry writes in his booklet on James, “The wrath of man contains none of God’s righteousness. So that means we must always let God’s righteousness direct our anger, or we will make many mistakes. We absolutely must rule our emotions.” Your impatience, your frustration, your bad temper is worthless to God! Do not discipline your children with these emotions; they are only destructive. And in general, when you rely on your own human emotion, you are going to make a mistake. 

So yes, godly confrontation must be done the right way, with courage, clarity and humility. Yes, it requires you to eradicate carnal thoughts: pride, frustration, wrong emotion. Yes, it requires you to take personal correction yourself. But do not let the hard work of godly confrontation dissuade you from doing it! It is your duty as a man! Don’t fear the hard work required. Fear the sin, the evil, the suffering that results from neglecting confrontation! Let God use you to restrain that iniquity! It is your critical duty of biblical manhood. Embrace love-motivated confrontation. 

Its this type of bullshit promulgated as "truth" that cause so much abuse in the church.  It causes the suicides, the divorces, the kids thrown to the curb, the kids turning to drugs, and a multitude of other issues.

There is nothing godly in this message from Hilliker even if he says God or quotes scripture.

COG Group Needs Binoculars In Order To Please It's "god"

The Chief Pharisee of Canada has been busy lately trying to see when the new moon was to happen so he can toot a horn.  Because the law is more important than loving one's neighbor, it is vital that his followers still pretend to be Jewish and keep the miniscule letter of the law.

The lengths Malm and his few acolytes go to in order to be "righteous" is exhausting and totally unnecessary.

Dr. Roy Hoffman of the Israel New moon Society saw the new moon this evening.  He is a highly experienced and skilled observer and had to first find the very faint moon by binoculars, then once the moon was located he could see it with his naked eyes and did manage to get a faint picture.  He was the only searcher who did see the new moon.  

On the grounds that: 

1.  Only one person saw the first light of the new moon, even though he was able to take a faint picture [cameras not being available during the Temple period]

2.   and  that even he, a highly experienced expert, needed binoculars [binoculars were not available during the Temple period or before] to find the faint moon before he could see it by naked eye: 

I find that a new moon would NOT have been declared for this evening during Temple times.   

If anyone would like to comment on this please contact me at jddm3@hotmail.com

 The new moon and first day of the fourth biblical month will therefore begin at sunset tomorrow evening ending Wednesday, and making all day Thursday the New Moon Day. 

When you read Malm's nonsense you can see why he finds Jesus so disturbing and cannot talk about him.  Can you imagine Malm ever discussing this:

Matthew 11:30The Message (MSG)28-30 “Are you tired? Worn out? Burned out on religion? Come to me. Get away with me and you’ll recover your life. I’ll show you how to take a real rest. Walk with me and work with me—watch how I do it. Learn the unforced rhythms of grace. I won’t lay anything heavy or ill-fitting on you. Keep company with me and you’ll learn to live freely and lightly.”

Just sayin... Ken Ham’s Ark Encounter Is Child Abuse

Just sayin...  Ken Ham’s Ark Encounter Is Child Abuse

July 6, 2016 by Michael Stone

Convincing children creationism is true constitutes intellectual child abuse.

Ken Ham’s Ark Encounter is a Christian fundamentalist project based on discredited science and a literal interpretation of Genesis.

The The life-size version of Noah’s Ark is located in Williamstown, Ky., just south of Cincinnati, Ohio, and is designed to be an exercise in Christian propaganda: a deplorable attempt to deceive children and others by denying the scientific reality of biological evolution and promoting Christian mythology as scientific fact.

The 500-foot-long, $100 million ark opens to the public on Thursday.

Ark Encounter is dedicated to indoctrinating children with ridiculous and discredited claims from the dubious field of “creation science,” claims such as the earth is only 6,000-years-old, that human beings and dinosaurs lived on the earth at the same time, and that the story of Noah’s Ark is true.

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The truth is that there is no scientific controversy concerning evolution. The assumption that creationism, or intelligent design, constitutes a legitimate scientific alternative to the theory of evolution is simply false.

Simply put, creationism is not a legitimate scientific alternative to the theory of evolution. And preventing children from learning the truth about the world, like teaching children that creationism is an acceptable scientific explanation for the diversity of life on Earth, is a form of child abuse.

Bottom line: By teaching children creationism is a legitimate scientific theory that disproves the theory of evolution, Ken Ham’s Ark Encounter is engaged in a despicable form of intellectual child abuse.

The list of topics taught by the COG's that are totally erroneous and mistaken is probably endless. All Apostle types, That or Those Prophets, Joshua's, Zerubbabels, Those spoken of by the Prophet Haggai and all of their lesser minister types are poorly educated in the realities of science well done opting more for the dismissive and  anti-intellectual attitude of  calling anything they don't understand or that upsets their Bronze Age views as "Science Falsely So-Called."  

The ministry of the WCG was poorly trained in theology much less science and it is even more ignorant to this day because of merely trying to copy the past mistakes and ignorance to keep their perceived glory days going at least until the end of their unchanged in a moment and the twinkling of an eye lives.

One only need ask "what new things have I learned about the Bible, its origins, intent, politic and historical accuracy and presentation in the last 50 years" to see how backward their views still are. Jesus being the same yesterday, today and forever was the unfortunate cue for them to feel they needed to do the same intellectually.  And they have held their ground in their ignorance against all we as a species have learned about ourselves, our history and our origins very well.  They have to I suppose for once you get stuck in telling and loving "the Old Old Story" you are stuck indeed. 

 Dave Pack boasts that he learned the truth of , or mistaken truth, of evolution 50 years ago.  I was in that same "Genesis Flood" Bible class and I can tell you it was bogus and beyond stupid in my own hind sight.  We have learned more about evolution and Biblical issues and difficulties over the past 20 years than n the previous "6,000".  To even say such a thing as if it was a good thing is both arrogant and ignorant beyond measure.  

Have you ever heard the words or admission "We were mistaken" or "I was mistaken" from any of the leadership of the splits, splinters and slivers, like Dave Pack, Gerald Flurry or Rod Meredith?  Joe Tkach doesn't count either as he has gone on to adopt new and improved falsehoods in his reinvention of the wheel of theology.  One read or listen to any presentation of "The Surprising God" perspectives on all things God, Jesus and The Enigmatic Holy Spirit should convince you of what word salad means.  Maybe it's just me and my early life questions and problems with growing up in a Trinitarian Church before WCG.  as a kid.  I never liked that answer.  That always meant to me "we have no idea" but you are to stay put and have faith.  As I got older I learned faith is what one had before the facts eradicated it.

http://thesurprisinggodblog.gci.org/

Very little of what LCG, PCG and RCG teach is actually true.  They are perpetuating ignorance in both theology and science to yet another generation of well meaning  but nonetheless  "just tell me what to believe" men, women and children who ultimately won't be served well by it all.

Recently in a rebuttal to the view that the Book of Revelation is a failed first century prophecy written only to the holders on during the Roman siege of Jerusalem back in the day, someone proved how modern and yet to be Revelation was because it spoke of armies of 200 million, which were impossible back in those days.  Of course the answer to that would be a good study in Biblical hyperbole and it's use but those kinds of concepts escape literalists.  The concept of Midrash in writing the New Testament story of Jesus and how it makes the Old Testament look like it so accurately predicts the New is also not a concept understood or even heard of by COG ministers much less members in their study of scripture.  

And science well done?  Well all we have to recall is "A Theory for the Birds" and "A Whale of a Tale" to understand just how little WCG and Ted Armstrong understood about evolution.  In Dave Pack's recent mistaken series on Evolution, Dave harkens back to those booklets and uses them just as they were used 50 years ago as well as many other now totally discredited "facts".  Sad and pathetic actually for a man who is touted as "very intelligent".  Ignorance posing as intelligence is merely being clever which is not the same as truthful and professional. 

In theology, the leadership and ministry have much of it wrong.  In science, they have just about all of it wrong.

Sometimes there is a way that seems right to a man because it is right.  Sometimes the wisdom of man is really wise and the foolishness of the gods or his representatives is really foolish. Sometimes man sees not as a god sees because the author who told us what the god saw was mistaken.  The science that is falsely so called is only  false to those who refuse to see the truth of it because it upsets the apple cart of their cherished beliefs though beliefs are not the same as what is actually true.

In science well done,  "If you can't show it,  you don't know it".  But in the theology of the COGs,  if you can't show it,  it's just a mystery and it would  be in your best interest to simply pray, pay, obey and stay put....which is intellectual abuse for both adults and children at its worse.

What's Your Favorite Stupid Church of God Story?

The following story was discussed on other group the other day and goes to show how SICK Armstrongism is with it's magical god and stupid stories.  What stupid story do you remember?

Anyone ever hear of the story which circulated about a situation at a feast site where a toilet was plugged up in the mens' restroom and several men were standing around, discussing how to unplug it? The story goes that this set of circumstances arose and some stranger stepped out from behind the group and reached down inside the toilet bowl and unclogged it with his hand. Then, he left the bathroom. Somebody tried to follow him, and when he stepped outside the restroom door, the stranger was totally vanished. So, the story got around that angel stepped in to save the day at the feast, and that other angels were among us, but we couldn't see them. Believe it or not, our congregational Super Hero actually performed a copy-cat act to this story! One sabbath not too long after that story first circulated, we had a clogged toilet in the ladies restroom at our local church meeting hall. When the ladies reported it to "Mr.Gung Ho," he had to replicate the angel in the story, and so he went in there and reached down and unclogged that toilet with his hand. He was the same Super Hero who studied Arabic so that when WCG fled to the place of safety, he'd be able to communicate with the locals in their native tongue and serve as a go-between between us and them.

Davey Pack: All Splinter Ministers Are REQUIRED To Answer These 35 Questions And Are NOT To Discuss These Answers With ANYONE Except ME!!!!!!!!!!

A rerun of Dave Pack's expectations of his ministers:



Get out your pen and paper guys, you have some work to do before you jump ship to Joshua Packland.  Those of you ordained in the old WCG are guilty of dereliction of duty and will be held accountable!

Important Questionnaire

A crucial series of questions present themselves before every shepherd of any rank. As you read, think hard—very, very hard!—about your original calling to serve in one or more offices under the sure guidance and direction of Christ as Head of His Church. Ask yourself each difficult question today’s circumstances require you to answer. Do not permit yourself to look away from hard realities now confronting all of God’s ­people.

In every age of His Church, Christ’s sheep have needed shepherds. Those with special leadership training and experience from the past will be held accountable in a greater way than all others (Jms. 3:1-2). Dereliction of duty by those “to whom much was given” will mean that “much will be required” of them some day (Luke 12:48). Take a deep breath and think of yourself standing before the “judgment seat” of Christ (II Cor. 5:10). You will be forced to give answers to HIM then if you are unwilling to demand them of YOURSELF ­now.

The millions constituting the physical remnant of modern Israel returning from captivity are foretold to come “weeping and loathing themselves” for having rejected God’s Way (Jer. 50:4-5; Ezek. 6:8-9). What about the spiritual remnant, who once knew that Way, but largely left it? Will/does this describe you? Read the above verses, and then read the following questions slowly, carefully and prayerfully. They are the biggest way that the ministry should “consider their ways.” Consider writing out the answers:

Did some of you lazy ass ministers retire?  God is going to hold you accountable for that!  Bad boy!  Bad, bad, bad boy!

(1) Retirement—Mr. Armstrong taught that retirement is not an option for a true minister.

• Did you retire? If so, when, and why did you think yourself an exception?

Did you leave the career ministry and get another job?  Your ass is grass too!

(2) Non-Career—Mr. Armstrong taught that “going non-career” is not an option for a true minister.

• Did you do this? If so, why did you think yourself an exception?

Did you ever dare to question doctrine or the right of HWA to set doctrine?  If you did you ass is grass again!

(3) Established Doctrine and Tradition

• In what doctrines or traditions do you believe Mr. Armstrong “got it wrong”? (Include all areas—be specific.)

Were you a liberal pussy boy in the 80's and 90's?

 (4) Did you actively resist false doctrine in your ministry?—or give safe sermons where you disagreed? (Be specific.)

• During the liberal years of the 1970s?
• In the WCG in the late 1980s and early 90s?
• In your splinter or splinters?

 Did you agree with some of the changes Tkach Sr. brought about?  If you did your ass is grass again!

(5) On each doctrine where you came to agree with God’s enemies—either Joe Tkach, those who assisted his destruction or your splinter leader—why did you agree?

Why would you even assume that I want you back in the church under me?  You pathetic worthless scum!

(6) Why should you still be considered for the ministry in God’s Church?

• Why should God’s flock ever again be entrusted to your care?
• Are you prepared to re-win brethren’s trust, including brethren now here whom you will likely also pastor? What about re-winning the trust of Headquarters?

Have you been diligently searching for the one true church that is building buildings and using cable TV?  These are important indications on who has the worlds most superfantabulous COG EVER!

(7) Did you actively pursue where God’s Truth, Church, Work, College and Government were found?

• If not, why not? Be specific.
• If so, how hard? Be specific.

Have you ever read any of MY propaganda on how I formed this church and studied at HWA's feet?

(8) Have you read or viewed any of our Splinter Explanation Packet material?

• What items? Ÿ Did you at any time hear my “30 Reasons” sermons of 1993 and 1994? (Parts 1, 2 or 3?)

Do you believe that I, Dave, am THE man who now heads up the worlds most superfantabulous COG EVER???????

 (9) Do you now believe again that Christ works solely through one unified organization?

 Are you submissive to church government? Are you too stupid to not see that my church is the only church that has it??????

(10) In light of government(s) you followed, how do you see God’s government today?

Are you still worshiping at the altar of Herbert Armstrong? In order for me to be Joshua, Herb had to be Zerub, get that through your thick heads!

(11) Have you returned to believing that Mr. Armstrong was the final “Elijah”?—and Zerubbabel?

Have you forgotten that only the Dear Leader can make decisions in the church?  No council of elders, no board of directors, NO ONE but MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

(12) Have you returned to believing that truth only enters the Church through apostles as Mr. Armstrong said so often?

(13) Do you believe I Corinthians 12:18 applies to you with no qualifications added?

(14) Do you believe there can be exceptions to I Corinthians 1:10 and 13—regarding members or ministers in the Church?

Are you willing to let me humiliate you into submission?

(15) Are you willing to temporarily or permanently become an associate pastor?

Are you willing to let me publicly humiliate you in front of the church until you kneel at my feet begging forgiveness?

(16) Are you willing to be excluded from the ministry until you requalify?

Are you ready to acknowledge that I have the capacity to add new doctrine to the church and to not be questioned about it?

(17) Are you familiar with the new teachings that God has added to His Church on top of what Mr. Armstrong taught?

• Which ones?—and do you agree?

Are you willing to go top my reeducation camp where you will be trained to discard anything you think you know and learn MY way?

(18) If your ordination(s) is(are) invalid, are you interested in being re-trained for Christ’s true ministry?

Are you stupid enough to believe that you have a voice in ANYTHING or that I even care what you think?

(19) Do you believe ministers should be able to voice opinions to others about:

• Where Headquarters is “wrong”?
• What Mr. Armstrong taught/said/did “wrong”?
• What Mr. Pack teaches/says/does “wrong”?
• Where your boss is “wrong” or harsh, etc.?
• Where you disagree doctrinally?

Are you a weak effeminate pussy-boy who has betrayed his calling?

(20) Do you consider yourself as having been (rate yourself from 5 being best to 0 being worst):

• Weak
• Cowardly
• Slothful
• Covetous
• Confused
• Compromising
• Foolish
• Political (And did you ever “run for office” in a splinter?)
• Heretical
• Deceitful
• Easily deceived
• Betrayed your calling

Why are you so stupid?

(21) Why did you lose the ability to “discern good from evil” (Heb. 5:13-14)?—and for so long?

You really are stupid if you think I am going to give you back your ranking once you join my church.

(22) What do you consider to be your ministerial rank?
Ÿ Evangelist Ÿ Pastor Ÿ Preaching Elder Ÿ Local Elder Ÿ Local Church Elder Ÿ “Elder” Ÿ Ministerial Assistant

Are you prepared to spend the rest of your life begging forgiveness for the messes you have created?  Since I am Mr. Perfect and have no sin in my life, I will be here to guide you down that path.

(23) Are you prepared to dedicate the rest of your life to serving God’s flock and fixing completely the horrific mess you helped cause in so many lives?

Are you intelligent enough to recognize that I AM an apostle of God?  If Herb could be one, I want to be one too!

(24) In light of how you once saw Mr. Armstrong, do you still recognize the fruits of a true apostle when you see one?

• If you say yes, why did you follow Joe Tkach until he destroyed everything?

(25) Describe your spiritual condition today. (Also, rate your temperature from 0-10, with 10 the highest.)

(26) What 5 biggest lessons did you learn from and since the apostasy? (In order of importance.)

Did you fast before you answered all of these vitally  important questions?

(27) How many times did you fast for 24 hours (or more) before answering these questions?

 How many times did you pray to me for one hour or more?

(28) How many times have you prayed over Psalm 51 on your knees?

Since you are all weak impotent little men who could not take a stand on doctrine, how are you going to prove to me that you will accept ALL of my teachings without question?

(29) Having now long abandoned many doctrines you said you would never leave, how would you convince Headquarters that this time you “mean it” if you intend to now “hold fast” (Rev. 3:11)?

(30) What have been your pastoral actions during the troubles of recent weeks and months?

Are you prepared to be reeducated for one year or more, just like Dale Schurter was?

(31) Are you prepared to spend a full year (or more) catching up with all you must unlearn, relearn, and learn new?

Do you feel any responsibility for being a minister of a splinter group that has been cut off from my god?  It is all YOUR fault that the members were disfellowshipped.

(32) What personal responsibility do you feel for the deplorable condition into which God’s people have sunk?

How are you going to prove to ME that you are spirit led?

(33) How would you prove that you are still Spirit-led?—or were ever Spirit-led?

(34) What date did you leave the WCG, and why did you remain beyond May 1995, if this is the case?

(35) What did you do after reading the article “God’s People Back Together—SOON!”?

All of you weak impotent little men who pretend to ministers in the splinter groups you need to be aware that you will be REQUIRED to fill out a similar questionnaire in September when you try to join up with me.  Your wives are required to answer these questions too, as long as it pertains to submissive women's rules.

FINALLY:  You are NOT to discuss this or share it in anyway with ANYONE (expect with me, of course)

In due course, you will be asked to fill out a questionnaire that looks very similar to this list.
*No answers that are blank, “I’m not sure” or short responses will then be permitted.
*All wives should answer the questions, including every point applicable. (Some are obviously to be skipped.)
*Aware of recent history, and the lies and deceit of so many men and leaders, DO NOT LIE TO YOURSELF!
*You are encouraged not to discuss or in any way share your answers with anyone other than God and your spouse.

Rod Meredith Said It Was OK To Lie As Long As It Protected the Church

From a reader here:

When I was a student in Rod's class in Pasadena in 1967 I heard him say that it it OK to lie to protect the church or "the work". He suggested that one could make an untrue statement and then (in your head) add something to the statement or amend it in some way that would make it true. So, I would not believe anything that comes out of Rod's mouth on the witness stand because you don't know what he is blathering inside his own mind. He is simply not credible in any circumstances.

Living Church of God/Scarborough Lawsuit: The Quandry Supboened Members and Ministers Are In

Now that members and ministers in the Living Church of God have bern subpoenaed to testify in the Scarborough lawsuit, there is a quandary that members and ministers are having to face.

These members and ministers have to testify, under oath, the truth about what they saw happen.  They are faced with a dilemma that none of them are comfortable with.  If they tell the truth, they have to tell how despicable Rod McNair and Rod Meredith have been towards the Scarborough's, and in doing that they face the possible expulsion from the church and being kicked out of the ministry for betraying  Meredith.

On the other hand, if they lie, then they will be wracked with guilt knowing that they are covering up for the abusers and that they have broken the law, both biblically and nationally.  However, there are many in the Church of God who believe that "justified lying" is ok.  Church members did this during the court receivership in Pasadena when the State of California smacked the church with a lawsuit on misuse of funds.

It's an even bigger dilemma for ministers.  If you testify and tell the truth, then the chances are high you will be terminated when the Scarborough's win the lawsuit.  Rod Meredith will never forget those that stabbed him in the back.  The church will keep records on who testifies and it will be used as a weapon against them.  WCG did this to members in the State of California lawsuit.  Those who supported the claimants and those who testified with the truth, were terminated and disfellowshipped.

There will be a big purge after this is all over.  Win or loose, those that testify will face repercussions.