He claims now to have rejected his belief in God, at least according to Armstrongite mythology.
Allen has changed his view on God:
I do not consider myself to be a Christian anymore in any traditional sense of the word. I believe in GOD, but my concept of God is so far evolved past anything that so called “Christianity” embraces that it is like night and day.
Yes, there is a God, but none of man’s religions, including the tired and worn out Churches of God, come even close to understanding Him in any meaningful sense of the word. Let me illustrate just one small point.
The traditional religions of man view God as some celestial King sitting on His Throne, frowning down on a sinning mankind and hurling down thunderbolts on “sinners.” He also “passes judgment” on the dead, who are either sent to a Heaven if they were good or a Hell if they were bad in this life.
They thus treated God as some kind of human King and thought He organized the universe accordingly, which is not true at all. “God” actually IS the Universe, or the Force, or whatever you want to call it. He doesn’t judge the way that men would judge things because He doesn’t think the way that men would think. He is so far above all of this stuff going on down here it is like night and day.
He also has a hard time with the Bible and how it is written:
My position on the Bible has also changed. I no longer believe it is the literal word of God, in the sense that He “dictated it” to various scribes down through the ages. I also know that certain important books that were in the original Bible, like the Book of Enoch, were ripped out by the Catholic Church and repressed because they didn’t like what it said. Never mind that certain passages of what is in the New Testament are direct quotes from the Book of Enoch, or that it is not possible to understand certain portions of the Bible without this knowledge.
The Plain Truth is that the Bible was tampered with by evil men who tore things out they didn’t like and inserted some things they liked. Thus, even though the Bible is an ancient book filled with great wisdom, to say that it is word for word the “Word” of God is flawed at best. However, the Bible IS still like a jigsaw puzzle and you can’t fully understand it without putting the pieces together on each subject as we have always taught. It would be foolish to just toss the whole thing in the trash too. So we draw on it as a source of wisdom.
These changes in understanding pale in contrast to his belief in extraterrestrials. That remains unchanged:
As to my thoughts on the reptilians, Nibiru, etc., at this point let me just state the following. I will elaborate further as time permits and as the subject comes up. I believe what the Bible calls “angels” are actually shape shifting aliens from Nibiru whose ultimate form is reptilian. You can read a whole chapter on this on our old website. It needs serious revision, but as far as it goes, Secret Mysteries of the Ages is still mostly correct.
Nibiru was called “heaven” in ancient times, and “heaven” is where the “gods” came from. Primarily, the faction that reached this planet was the negative faction, because there “was war in heaven [Nibiru], and Satan [the leader of the losing side in the war] fought against God Almighty the GOD OF ARMIES. Since “god” had 2/3 of the angels on his side, he defeated his rival and banished him and the majority of his “angels” to this planet. He plans to come back on the next passage of Nibiru and finish the job, and banish them to a “bottomless pit” on Nibiru.
Thus, the being that we know as Yahweh, or the “personal god” is none other than the King of Nibiru. He is not to be confused with the Force, or the Universe, which is actually the true GOD. In this respect, he is sort of an impostor, albeit a very powerful one. From our limited perspective, he and his council of gods in heaven ARE gods as they are far more powerful than we are, but they are NOT GOD in the ultimate sense, although they may have convinced themselves by now that they are.
The Annunaki are one of the first civilized races to have evolved in the universe. They date from the dawn of time and have very long lifespans. However, they have stagnated while much younger races have finally discovered who they were, what they were, and progressed to the next level. Meanwhile, the Annunaki are stuck running around in circles chasing their tails. I am convinced they are caught up in this dualistic so called reality, and still see the physical universe as real. They have never come to grips with the problems of the ego, and have never progressed any further than they are now. They are technologically very advanced. Satan is the champion of the technological path. It is his belief that competition is the right way to go and that it is every “man” for himself. He is the originator of the divide and conquer method used to rule this world, because, behind the scenes, he is the ruler of this world.Yahweh, on the other hand, is close to enlightenment but is still missing the mark. He and his angels realize that cooperation is the right way of life, and that love is the main force in the universe. However, they are somehow still missing the mark. I don’t know how, but they still don’t get it correctly, whatever “it” is.
You can read previous entries about M John Allen here:
UFO's, Space Stations, Inhabited Planets, Lucifer's Home Planet, Autotrophs, and Dating Issues
$1,000 A Month Gets You Into This COG Inner Sanctum
"I don't even care if you are listening anymore. If you refuse to obey God from now on, YOUR LIFE IS OVER."
Armstrongite Confirms: War In Heaven Is Going On NOW!
Jesus and John Allen Say $1,000 A Month Gets You In On Plan "B"
John Allen: About To Lay Bare All The Deep Dark Secrets Of The Ages
M John Allen: Passive Aggressive Prophet Calls It Quits (Again)
I think this guy's a right royal L. Ron! Sadly though there's plenty like him "out there" especially in the world of "da enternet!!"
ReplyDeletePole Shift is easy to solve, Just get some Pole Locks!
ReplyDeleteBull Shift, not so easy to solve
M.T.Annunuki
Well this guy needs some bat locks, cuz he's certifiably bat shift crazy. I was not prepared when I began reading for the headline to be true in the literal sense.
ReplyDeleteI was in a Spokesman's Club many years ago with this fellow, and frankly, he was rather odd and quite unbalanced even back in the '80's. And yes, this was out in Pasadena.
ReplyDeleteHis wacky rantings through the years are clear signs that very serious underlying mental illness is almost certainly involved here. The WCG and it's offshoots have churned out large numbers of deluded folks like this who somehow love to think that they have been given a special prophetic calling by God. The Internet is saturated with such "prophets" - ex-WCG members or otherwise.
All I can say is, with the tragic event that recently happened in Connecticut fresh in mind, let's hope these folks don't have access to firearms.
Here's a rather insightful and excellent analysis regarding the Connecticut school shooting. The reason I post it is because I can't help but think that many of the same dynamics equally apply to the many COG folks who claim special "knowledge" like M John Allen.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.cnn.com/2012/12/17/opinion/newman-school-shooters/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
Another L. Ron Weinland?
ReplyDeleteTell us again about the Stargate?!
If anyone actually spent one thousand dollars a month to be in the "inner circle", do you think it was money well spent now?
ReplyDeleteWell, we've seen this all before. "I am operating on such a higher level that......." It's so, well, pseudo.
ReplyDeleteI think my biggest problem with this misguided individual is that in spite of his past and continued vapidness, apparently he plans to continue teaching. How frustrating! Oh well, at least it gives us all something at which to laugh. None of his material is original, either.
BB
His view aren't much different than a few of the regular posters/commentators on this site.
ReplyDeleteI'm sure M John Allen is right.
ReplyDeleteMwhaha!
But seriously, I think there's some mental illness going on there.
Unfortunately, there's often mental illness going on in the people proclaiming or following nutty stuff.
(Such as David Barton and those who those who subscribe to his nutty teachings.)
-Norm
I think he gets the reptile thing from David Ickes. When I first got on the internet and found WCG ex-member sites, I was quite surprised to find that Ickes actually had fans amongst the COGniscenti.
ReplyDeleteThis is just more evidence as to how Armstrong programming ruins peoples' minds. Unfortunately, sometimes that means permanent damage.
BB
The complete lack of originality about it is definitely the most incredible and hilarious part of it all. I am sure that if there were a god out there "revealing things to his mind," those "things" would not be a cobbled together amalgamation of various science fiction movie references.
ReplyDeleteI wonder if the book of Revelation in the bible is so chockablock full with first century pop cultural references but I've just never heard such an analysis of it before? I'm sure that there were just as many psychotic conspiracy wingnuts passing around nonsense in those days as now but that they must have all spouted different nonoriginal material then.
You have to wonder about a guy whose worldview changed that drastically in a year. How could you not be sure he would switch to something else later? And if there were any people silly enough to put faith in him, what do they do now?
ReplyDeleteTo a certain extent I feel for the poor fellow seeing that so many would've grown up in mainstream Christian churches believing one thing and then they may have come across the PT magazine and been swayed into believing another thing only to have their beliefs changed again by Tkach. This certainly would've led to instability especially if they had once been so adamant that they were right only to feel completely lost and uncertain of everything now. Is it any wonder then there is so much unstable folks when even our religion and culture is so schizophrenic eg we teach our kids not to lie and then lie to them about Santa Claus and other nonsense; we claim to respect life and then glorify violence and death as entertainment etc. Wretched wretched world. BTW Bob you're right about Ikes. He was the first to promote the stupid doctrine of reptilians. Jesse Ventura confronted him about it on his Conspiracy Theory show a few months ago and Ikes was evasive and couldn't provide any proof for the insane theory. There was even a mentally unbalanced lesbian who claimed she was a reptilian! These cult figures luke Ikes who spew forth nonsense only have added to the instability in society.
ReplyDeleteFundamentalist Christians are prime targets for those promoting the nutty beliefs that are part and parcel of the conspiracy community. There are many ex-WCG members who do, in fact, buy into such craziness.
ReplyDeleteI think a large part of the explanation for this is because such people really aren't well equipped to think critically, to apply even the most basic principles of logic to their belief system.
Observe that hard-core COG members also hold many medical and health beliefs that make them prey for those spouting all kinds of nonsensical health fads, very widespread among fundamentalist believers. Again, a consequence of not requiring sound evidence. Instead, concepts are accepted more because they seem to be in harmony with the overall religious ideology, a very unreliable path which time and time again has proven to be a poor means of arriving at objective truths.
The problem with faith as it's commonly practiced is that you get mentally lazy because you're asked to accept concepts for which there is absolutely no tangible or logical evidence. Either that, or the "evidence" presented is extremely flimsy. If you applied the same methodology in everyday life, say crossing a busy street for instance, you'd be dead very quickly. But religion teaches an adherent to ignore rational evidence, that such evidence is a "tool of the devil", etc.
The cognitive dissonance floating around inside the minds of the hard-core religious is enough to set anyone up for mental instability such as seen in M. John Allen's rants.
BB wrote, "David Ickes"
ReplyDeleteI think he means, "David Icke"
Yes, Skeet subscribed to Icke's views.
I'm not sure why, but I could guess.
Icke's stuff is as crazy as much that's preached on mainstream Christian TV, like on TBN and Daystar.
-Norm
Norm,
ReplyDeleteI'm certainly no defender of Skeet. However, as an atheist, he had no use for reptilian theories, since that implied just another permutation of the spiritual.
He always admitted being a "black helichoppers" person, though.
BB