Herbert Armstrong's Tangled Web of Corrupt Leaders

UCG Admits No One Wants To Climb Their "Ladder of Involvement"



United Church of God envisions itself as the paragon of truth that no one else gets quite as right as they do.  They believe this in spite of the fact their own brand of "new and improved" Church of Godism has never become the shining light for all of the Church of God to look to for Christian virtue.

From its embrace of embezzling bank managers, coddling ministers who got off sexually harassing women in the church, to encouraging members to lie under oath about a minister who was a stalker.  UCG's pure Christianity was so pure that it imploded several times since its inception, first with David Hulme splintering off and then with 174 ministers jumping ship along with thousands of brethren to form Church of God a Worldwide Association. Then the entire church watched as its chairman had to resign over "unchristian behavior".

Is it any wonder they struggle to appeal to the public as a place people would want to experience God?  Especially when it seems like UCG sees its journey for its members as progressive steps up a ladder. Who would even want to get on the ladder in the first place?

What "pearls of great price" does UCG possess that ANYONE would actually want to have?

UCG's ladder of progression has rungs that are broken or entirely missing as it worships the law over that inconvenient dude they are ashamed to publicly talk about.
I conducted a session that resulted in a lot of discussion, entitled: “First Contact Counseling.” The title suggests that our ministry may be given “leads” of people who take an interest in our proclamation message. The reality, however, is that we no longer have a line of people coming to us. We have to find them. We have to become “fishers of men.”
How can we reach out in the world where we live with the spiritual treasure and pearls of great price that we have acquired? We know that God calls people, but what role do we have in engaging them? We spoke of the “ladder of involvement” that all of us have climbed from first contact with the truth to committed membership through baptism. Is the ascent unimpeded from someone’s first exposure to God’s way all of the way up to engagement in the congregational environment? Do we provide the rungs needed to climb this ladder? Are the rungs solid, or are some broken? If the path is not clear, a person’s growth can stop.

Friday, November 24, 2017

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King Gerry, World Renown Advertising Guru, Soon To Start Advertising Campaign For Eilat Mazar



While King Gerry was in England recently, he took a jaunt to Israel in his new private family jet.  There he met up with Eilat Mazar, the leader of the archaeological dig that Herbert Armstrong College participates in.  King Gerry wants to write a biography of the woman because she is unknown to the world.  By doing so it will highlight the many biblical related discoveries she has overseen and it will give the new King of the Church of God more credibility.
On the flight to Tel Aviv aboard the Philadelphia Church of God’s corporate jet, Mr. Flurry emphasized to Mr. Macdonald the importance of having a much larger work in Jerusalem. His goal, he said, is to get the Church’s message to everyday Jews, who will be much more receptive than the elites. He also discussed writing a biography about Dr. Mazar to bring more attention to her many archaeological discoveries that prove the biblical history accurate. He also discussed building a small team (based at the pcg regional office in Edstone, England), similar to the one Steve Jobs supervised at the animation company Pixar, for the purpose of delivering a powerful warning message to modern Judah through the Internet, radio, publications and advertising.
In the King's ongoing attempt to imitate Herbert Armstrong, King Gerry is now claiming to be a highly skilled participant in the advertising field.  King Flurry wants to bypass the Jewish elite and direct his message about Mazar to the educated lower masses of Judaism and the rest of the world.  By doing this King Gerry will them be able to gain far more credibility, at least in his Kingly eyes, with the world at large.  Before he does this though, he needs to set into place a small dedicated team to get the message out.

With his outstanding and Kingly knowledge in advertising, learned at the feet of Herbert Armstrong, King Gerry is going write some of the greatest archaeological ads the world has ever seen.
At the meeting, Mr. Flurry quoted to Dr. Mazar something she had said in the past: “You need to have vision to do a dig in Jerusalem. You need to see the big picture of how things fit into the biblical picture. … Today’s archaeologists lack this vision, although many of the everyday people still hold it firmly in mind.”
Mr. Flurry then told Dr. Mazar that most of these “everyday people” still haven’t heard about her “sensational discoveries.” A biography mostly about her discoveries, coupled with an advertising campaign about those discoveries, would help change that, he said. Citing his past experience in the advertising field, he said, “I know from what experience I’ve had, that I could write some of the greatest archaeological ads you’ve ever seen.” Dr. Mazar enthusiastically approved his biography pitch.
Mazar is not as unknown as King Gerry likes to pretend.  See: The Ophel Treasure

New King of the Church of God Travels To England



God was busy working many miracles in October for the new King of the Church of God.  Now that Gerald Flurry has declared Herbert's prayer rock to be the new coronation stone and that he himself is the modern day King of the church, till Jesus returns to take possession of it, his God has been clearing the way with miraculous events.

King Gerry was ready to fly to England to visit his English campus at Edstone, when lo and behold, Satan attacked him and caused passport issues.  While all of this as being worked out, his god started telling the high altitude winds, that King Gerry's jet would be flying in, to increase their speed in order to let King Gerry's private plane be able to fly directly from Oklahoma to England without refueling!

Below is an excerpt from Grant Turgeon's slobberfest about the trip.  The most disturbing part is the last paragraph.  Visions of adoring crowds clamoring to get close to Jim Jones, Herbert Armstrong, and leaders of other cults come to mind.  The PCG faithful have totally swallowed Gerald Flurry's lie about HWA's prayer rock, its new significance and the fact that he is now the King that God is supposedly working through.

The sheer depths of spiritual depravity that Armstrongite leaders sink to is mind-boggling.

EDMOND—Philadelphia Church of God Pastor General Gerald Flurry made his first international trip on the Church’s corporate jet from October 10–19. He spent the seventh day of the Feast of Tabernacles and the Last Great Day in Warwickshire, England. Three days later, he flew to Tel Aviv, Israel, and met with Dr. Eilat Mazar in Jerusalem before returning home via England. 
On October 10, the sixth day of the Feast, Mr. Flurry left his home at 6 a.m. to drive to the private hangar in OKC. Due to a passport mix-up, he and his personal assistant, Grant Turgeon, had to return to the headquarters campus. During the 90-minute delay, Capt. James Gay adjusted the flight plan to make up the difference. Strong eastward winds allowed for a rare direct flight from Oklahoma City to Birmingham, England, and enabled Gay to eliminate a refueling stop in South Bend, Indiana. 
After an eight-hour flight, the Gulfstream G450 touched down in Birmingham around 11 p.m. local time. Mr. Flurry said that he felt energized following the trip, the result of near-zero turbulence at 43,000 feet and a cabin pressurization of just 6,000 feet (half that of a commercial flight). A cheerful group of about a dozen pcg members stayed up late to greet him at the private terminal. 
United Kingdom-Europe Regional Director Brad Macdonald and Edstone Foreign Language Translations staff member Emmanuel Michels drove Mr. Flurry and Turgeon to the pcg regional office at Edstone Hall in Warwickshire, arriving just before midnight, where they stayed at the apartment of the Stephen Flurry family. 
The next day, Mr. Flurry gave the sermon and then spent a couple hours speaking with most of the 300-plus members at the Feast site. 
“The brethren are always excited when Mr. Flurry visits, but I thought they were extra excited by this visit,” Mr. Macdonald said. “This was Mr. Flurry’s first visit to the region since the new revelation about his office. That understanding makes a conversation with Mr. Flurry extra special. Since the Feast, I’ve spoken with a few people who relayed how special it was for them to have a few minutes with Mr. Flurry, and how connected they felt to him. More than a few remarked on how warm and open and friendly Mr. Flurry was, and how in their conversations with him it felt as if they’d known one another for years and years.” Pastor General Visits England Feast Site, Meets With Dr. Eilat Mazar on First International Trip Aboard PCG Jet

Thursday, November 23, 2017

United Church of God Brazilian Witchcraft Problems





United Church of God has always had problems with its South American churches. Now it seems witchcraft is now infecting their Brazilian churches. Vik Kubik and Jorge de Campos went to Brazil recently to see what was going on.

At a church service this past week in Oklahoma, de Campos spilled the beans about those ornery Brazilians and the witchcraft issue.

Brazil has been dealing with Candomblé, a religion that developed from the animist beliefs of African slaves that were traded in Brazil. Candomblé gatherings usually last four hours, with singing, drumming and dancing. Its followers scream and freeze in place as they become possessed by their deities called Orixás. Many of these deities are associated with forces of nature and they are also combined with Catholic saints, tieing them into Christianity. The slaves deceived their Portuguese masters by claiming to believe in the saints but were actually worshipping their Candomblé deities.

With the widespread influence of evangelicalism in Brazil, there have been major confrontations between Christians and the Candomblé followers. Now even fringe American cults groups are having to deal with it.


COG Prophet Speaks Out On Football, Thanksgiving, Breast Enhancements, David Cassidy, and Bikini Coffee Bars



Why is it that all of the Church of God prophets and apostles get upset over the silliest things and yet could care less about deeper issues?

Almost ordained and arrested Elijah, Elijah, Amos, Joshua, Moses, and bitter rejected "son" of Rod Meredith spends his days waxing ineloquently on hundreds of silly topics while ignoring bigger and more important things.
Today, November 23, 2017, it includes his usual attack on football and Thanksgiving:
Today is the national holiday in the USA called Thanksgiving. And despite certain claims, its specific origins are not pagan. But, of course, no Christian needs to celebrate national holidays like it is they do not wish to (cf. Romans 14). And the Bible does condemn gluttony.

One thing that I have noticed on the day called Thanksgiving by those in the USA, is when I have been at many other places than the home I lived in, American football has been playing on television.

For many, other than food and family, football is a major focus of the Thanksgiving holiday.

Should Christians support violent sports like American football?
Then, the Bitter One has to pop off of the death of David Cassidy:
I do remember David Cassidy when he was in the Partridge Family on television. I saw him in a couple of plays decades later. My wife, Joyce, even met him several times. 
David Cassidy did not seem to be particularly religious. Perhaps he had some type of Christian faith, perhaps not (he had been Episcopalian). 
If he was not a true Christian, is he and the others like him doomed?
No. 
It is reasonable to conclude that David Cassidy (and most others who have already died) did not commit true blasphemy against the Spirit, so can be forgiven. 


But the most offensives thing of all to the one and only PURE virginal true prophet of God is Bikini coffee shops in Everett, Washington! Oh, the horrors! It is leading men to LUST! LUST I SAY! How dare the women cause men to be held accountable for their inability to control their actions!
Under-dressed women are becoming controversial in the city of Everett, Washington:
November 23, 2017
The city of Everett, about 30 miles north of Seattle, is home to numerous bikini barista espresso stands, where servers dressed in everything from tasteful two-piece swimsuits to pasties and G-strings serve up lattes and Americanos at a drive-thru window.

Everett lawmakers have been steamed about the coffee stands for years – arguing everything from obscenity to mob ties – officials are taking a page out of the headlines and citing a new argument: The skin-flaunting coffee servers could turn men into the next Harvey Weinstein.
He also expresses disgust that Europe over the rising tide of Muslim women at the beach in burqinis.
Over in Europe, we have seen this pushed in another odd direction. Earlier this year, a Muslim woman was barred from using a swimming pool, because she wore a swimsuit known as a burqini. Women should be able to wear full body bathing suits when swimming, etc.
He does not like that France is seeking to prohibit the outfit, and of course, ties this into the right for women to wear what they want for modesty.

Next, his ties into the First Amendment of the United States Constitution:
Now, getting back to the First Amendment of the Constitution of the USA, it states:
First amendment — Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
But is it always wise to say anything anywhere?

Is it wise to go before as many people as possible and speak insults to them?

While it may be “legal,” some may get so upset as to take violent action against the insulter. While that action by the insulted would be illegal, it certainly was not wise to go around intentionally trying to insult people.

Furthermore, it is not wise or proper to attempt to incite male lust as many businesses (especially those involved in entertainment) try to do.
Just like Muslim men who cannot control their lusts, Bob Thiel cannot control his.  He hates being incited to lust!

He says:
Adultery is prohibited by the seventh commandment and lust by the tenth commandment.

Jesus and the Apostle Paul warned against attempting to provoke, stir up, or mentally succumb to sexual lust. Thus, they are also condemning pornography, including dressing inappropriately.

What was considered immoral dress in the mid-20th century is now more modest dress than what many young females now wear. Another trend, which is appearing in the USA, as well as Europe, is for women’s clothing to become more and more sheer. So sheer, that one can often look through the clothing to the skin (slips and other covering items are often missing). This is not a positive trend but is another that I wanted to mention and it is a type of pornography.
Many of the underclothed do not blush. They think they are clever, and like adulteresses, act like they did nothing wrong.
          20 This is the way of an adulterous woman:
She eats and wipes her mouth,
And says, “I have done no wickedness. (Proverbs 30:20)
But inciting lust is wicked!

What is considered to be acceptable dress for public display (mainly for females) continues to the trend to show more skin, more cleavage (and more and more women have decided to have “breast enhancement” apparently for display), and more of their figures. This is not good. And this is not just limited to television or the movies.
The idea that women need to be almost totally naked to work in restaurants, swim, etc. is wrong.

Promoting lust is wrong, promoting modesty is not.
Promoting lust is bad for humanity.
Life is so hard for the prophets of God. Satan is constantly attacking them with lustful and impure thoughts as they incessantly beg for more and more money.


Wednesday, November 22, 2017

Gerald Weston Not Happy That LCG Members Are Not Taking Time Off Work For Holy Days And Are Not Giving As Much Money As They Should



Living Church of God members got a dressing down again by God's only end-time prophet and apostle to be. Why is it that LCG leaders never have any confidence in their members?  As you can see below, there is a reason for this constant dressing down.  Money!  When LCG members slack off and work on holidays or don't save enough 2 tithe for the feast or have extra money for offerings the income of the only true church suffers.

Then, the reality pictured by the Feast of Tabernacles will be here. At that time, all nations will be commanded to come up (i.e., send representatives) to Jerusalem to learn of God’s master plan. It is evident from Zechariah 14:16–19 that Jesus Christ will accept no excuses for failing to do so. This should be a lesson for all of us that we must take these holy convocations seriously and prepare each year to observe them. I hope all of you will be doing so. We have the better part of six months from the Feast of Tabernacles until Passover and the Days of Unleavened Bread to ensure time off from work.
The First Day of Unleavened Bread 2018 falls on a weekly Sabbath, so most who work daylight hours have to take off only the last Day of Unleavened Bread, which falls on a Friday. You should have plenty of time to work out arrangements to have that day off. The Festivals that fall later in the year will require more time off, but most members have little trouble arranging that, if they plan early and work with their employers. It should go without saying that the better employee you are year round, the more inclined your employer will be to meet your needs. And the same may be said for students who must miss classes. We know that there are exceptions, but most employees and students will do just fine with a bit of hard work and planning.
Another way to prepare for the Festivals and Holy Days is by preparing according to God’s financial instructions. Deuteronomy 14:22–26 explains how each of us are to set aside a tithe for these special days. (See Mr. Dexter Wakefield’s article in this issue for more on this topic.) This is a well-ingrained habit for most members, but there are those who think they have a better way. Some wait until the Feast and use their last paycheck. Others go to the Feast on credit cards that they know will take months to pay off. Others try to save a Festival tithe, but end up “borrowing” from it for various emergencies. This should not be the case.
Apparently, Weston believes that those who struggle financially are under a curse because they do not tithe properly or give offerings.
Brethren, we understand that many struggle financially, but as one minister put it, “How can you be blessed if you are under a curse?” For the scripture asks and explains: “Will a man rob God? Yet you have robbed Me! But you say, ‘In what way have we robbed You?’” And God’s answer? “In tithes and offerings. You are cursed with a curse, for you have robbed Me, even this whole nation” (Malachi 3:8–9).
Remember Living Church of God members, the more you give the more you will be blessed!  This is the same as the prosperity gospel crap fostered off on individuals in other money grubbing churches.
When God tells us to do something and we don’t do it, how can He then bless us? We have all learned from experience that it works out better when we obey God! Please examine yourself in this regard. Obey His commands and then claim His promises: “‘And try [KJV: prove] Me now in this,’ says the Lord of hosts, ‘If I will not open for you the windows of heaven and pour out for you such blessing that there will not be room enough to receive it’” (v. 10).
One has to wonder: How many more Feasts will there be before the seventh trumpet sounds and Christ returns? May we all prepare to rehearse God’s great plan of salvation for mankind next year and for as many years as need be until we are changed into spirit-born sons and daughters of God! May we all be busy, diligently fulfilling our calling! Personal-After the Feast, The Work Continues!
Remember, Weston needs your money, as that is the reason for your calling.  If you do not give more money your chances of being changed into spirit-born sons and daughters of God is rather slim.

Gerald Weston: Its Still All About Sex, End Time Is Closing In And Persecution Is Around The Corner



A person might have expected that at the death of Rod Meredith, the focus of the Living Church of God would not be so consumed by sex, but no, Gerald Weston carries on the tradition.

According to Weston, Living Church of God members are being intimidated in Australia over its gay marriage referendum.  Weston is even distressed that the national football team stood up for the referendum.  Bob Thiel will NOT be pleased!

Add to that California's recent decision to allow transgender individuals to have a classification on their driver's license so that they might live lives a little bit more stress-free. Because of that CA might be being punished by Weston's god with fires that burned 6,000 homes and killed 50 people.  Weston even admits he may be jumping to conclusions about that extreme stretch of his imagination, but he does it anyway in order to denigrate the citizens of California. He even jumps to the conclusion that Australia is suffering from drought as a punishment from his god.

Living Church of God members are encouraged to believe that these are all sure signs that the end times are swiftly crashing down around us.  Weston also believes that their right to freedom of speech is in jeopardy which will inhibit them from preaching what they think is the gospel.

Never fear though, the collapse of society, while maybe 50 years away, is still swiftly crashing down around them...as it has for the last 80 some years.
Psalm 133:1 tells us, “Behold, how good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity!” This is a fitting description of what we encountered in our travels among God’s people, and I trust you found the same to be true wherever you traveled over the Festival period. But this is not the world to which we’ve returned. At the time of this writing, Australia is spending more than $95 million (in U.S. dollars) on a non-binding referendum in an attempt to trivialize and pervert the marriage relationship between a man and a woman. We heard numerous reports from our members of intimidation to cast a “yes” opinion for same-sex marriage. Some businesses display “yes” posters and make it clear that they expect their employees to fall in line. Government buildings, which one would expect to be neutral, display the rainbow flag, making it obvious which side they support. To be sure, there are vocal critics on the “no” side, but “yes” has the support of the media, academia, many businesses, most celebrities, and even the national football team.
Truly, this generation has no respect for God or His instructions found in the Bible. “There is no fear of God before his eyes” (Psalm 36:1); and “The wicked in his proud countenance does not seek God; God is in none of his thoughts” (Psalm 10:4). Even in the unlikely event that these misbegotten efforts fail, same-sex marriage will eventually prevail in Australia, just as it has in the other Israelite nations. It is only a matter of time. The god of this world and his invisible spirit influence will make sure of that! Is it any wonder that parts of Australia are in severe drought, and some farmers, seeing no hope for the future, have committed suicide?
And in California, Governor Jerry Brown recently signed into law a bill allowing people who consider themselves as transgender to identify as having a “non-binary” gender on state identification documents such as driver licenses. It might be a stretch to blame the fires that have destroyed 6,000 homes and killed nearly 50 people on a single piece of legislation, but it is evident God is withdrawing His blessings from the “Golden State” and from the Israelite nations as a whole for disregarding His ways.
Many members of the Church sense that time is closing in on us and that real persecution is just around the corner. We are losing our freedom of speech, which is so essential to the preaching of the true Gospel and proclaiming the Ezekiel warning. A cadre of people—small, percentage-wise, but very vocal—have taken over our governments, educational institutions and the media as a whole, and people who lack a godly moral foundation are going right along with it. So, while the Feast of Tabernacles was an oasis of peace, love and harmony, we must not be lulled into a lukewarm Laodicean attitude. We may be surprised. It may take longer than we expect before man’s Babylonish system comes crashing down, but collapse is on the way.

Tuesday, November 21, 2017

PCG Member Claims PCG is NOT A Cult and that PCG Families Are Made Happier By The Church



I received the following comment on a previous thread.  It is supposedly from Philadelphia Church of God member.  I  could say something catty right now but will refrain.  However, most here will see what is VERY wrong below.

I am a member of the pcg, and I just want to say... GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT! Half of what you accusse us of is false. For your info we are not a cult. Gerald Flurry admits he has a small following, but you lie and say he claims to have a large one. PCG And Worldwide church of god are the same, we are just the next generation after hwa died. And that stupid article about Gerald Flurry telling us that we will be deported was false. We do not intend to become a large religion, we want to remain small.

You said in an older article of yours  
"Gerald Flurry has now decided that he can no longer breathe the same air on planes that the commoners breath. He also cannot stand being int the same security lines with the unwashed heathen masses. Its important now for God's only chosen apostle to travel the earth in style and comfort." 
We purchased the plane simply to save money and make our travels quicker, the plane is small, I have been in it, its not meant for luxury and comfort.

You also said Gerald Flurry Prefers To See PCG Members "ROT" From Sickness Than See A Doctor. This is also false, we are allowed to see doctors, but he prefers us not to put all of our faith in them. Its god who heals.

Once again you said this "It has been well documented over the years on how abusive the Philadelphia Church of God has become under the leadership of Gerald Flurry. Families have been ripped apart, marriages destroyed and countless suicides have occurred because of the vile polices that Gerald Flurry has forced upon the membership of the Philadelphia Church of God" 
Just to start off, these policies are NOT forced upon us, we are not a cult. There has only been one suicide to take place by a pcg member. For each individual who takes his/her own life, at least 20 attempt to do so. Suicide has a global mortality rate of 16 per 100,000 people. And we have only had 1. 
Famillies are not torn apart but made happier in our church.

Monday, November 20, 2017

Gerald Weston Locks Down LCG Sermons From Public Access




Living Church of God members knew that once Gerald Weston had full power, his legalistic rules would start to reign supreme.  He has had a track record of being abusive by controlling as many aspects of members lives as he could.

Besides shutting down Living University's accreditation process and effectively cutting down all of its course work at the end of this semester, Weston has pulled a Herbert Armstrong and is trying to put the wayward Living Church of God back on track.

Weston has also shut down public access to Living Church of God sermons, which previously had been available for the public to listen to.  So much for that "witnessing!"  Now you have to have he password that is specially set for your congregation in order to listen to LCG sermons.

Perhaps he is attempting to control what "pop star" LCG ministers disseminate to the broader church rather than keeping inter own church area.  LCG's mother church had a huge underground network who shared tapes of popular ministers that garnered v                                                                                                                                huge followings.  Usually this revealed around prophecy and other end time malarky.  The same is happening today with certain men who are more popular than Weston or most of the traveling minister/evangelists  from Charlotte.  Plus, it allows Weston and Charlotte to monitor all sermons and delete them before they are spread throughout the church.  Several men have been preaching some rather crazy things and Charlotte is trying to squelch that as fast as possible


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Turkey God Day in the Church of God


Armstrongism has produced its share of lunatics and this guy demonstrates just how much Armstrongism perverted the minds of some.  Here you will hear about "evil sinisters" in the Church of God (5:54) as he talks about Turkey god day.

Somewhere a lunatic asylum is missing a patient....