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Saturday, March 21, 2020

COG Prophet Proclaims: "Get ready, the world is about to need you"



The world is rapidly spinning into the end times as it rears its ugly head with the coronapocalypse.., so screeches the official COG prophet of the ONE TRUE CHURCH!

There is only one cure for what is coming and it involves how you react.  That may be what saves you.  

Here is what you need to do
Now, getting ready physically for disasters is something Christians already should have been doing.... 
But what about being prepared spiritually? 
Jesus wants YOU to support the end time Philadelphian work:
I will give you one guess as to who that end time Philadelphian work is being led by and it is NOT Dave Pack, Gerald Flurry, Ron Weinland or James Malm! Any guesses?

Any and all who refuse to follow this self-appointed dude are proving they are infected with the attitude of Sardis and Laodicea. 
Sadly, most Christians are not Philadelphian. Most in the 21st century will not support the Philadelphian work–but they should. 
Notice what Jesus said to non-Philadelphian end time Christians:
1″And to the angel of the church in Sardis write,
‘These things says He who has the seven Spirits of God and the seven stars: “I know your works, that you have a name that you are alive, but you are dead. 2 Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die, for I have not found your works perfect before God. 3 Remember therefore how you have received and heard; hold fast and repent. Therefore if you will not watch, I will come upon you as a thief, and you will not know what hour I will come upon you. 4 You have a few names even in Sardis who have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with Me in white, for they are worthy. 5 He who overcomes shall be clothed in white garments, and I will not blot out his name from the Book of Life; but I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels.
6 “He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.”‘ (Revelation 3:1-6)
14 “And to the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write,
‘These things says the Amen, the Faithful and True Witness, the Beginning of the creation of God: 15 “I know your works, that you are neither cold nor hot. I could wish you were cold or hot. 16 So then, because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will vomit you out of My mouth. 17 Because you say, ‘I am rich, have become wealthy, and have need of nothing’ — and do not know that you are wretched, miserable, poor, blind, and naked — 18 I counsel you to buy from Me gold refined in the fire, that you may be rich; and white garments, that you may be clothed, that the shame of your nakedness may not be revealed; and anoint your eyes with eye salve, that you may see. 19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten. Therefore be zealous and repent. 20 Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and dine with him, and he with Me. 21 To him who overcomes I will grant to sit with Me on My throne, as I also overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne.
22 “He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.”‘” (Revelation 3:14-22)
Everyone is too stupid to understand just who the TRUE end-time church is and who leads it.  That is because they have allowed Satan to take over their minds and lead them away from the one true leader.  Everyone refuses to listen to him! Oh, the humanity!  How can we be sooooooo foolish?
Most end time Christians DO NOT REALLY WANT TO HEAR WHAT THE SPIRIT SAYS TO THE CHURCHES.

Yet, most Christians in the end time will NOT be Philadelphian. Jesus warns and condemns those who do not support the Philadelphian work.

Hopefully, the results of the COVID-19 situation are helping wake you up and motivating you to realize that you should have a role in supporting the true Philadelphian work. 
The time to do so is now, before it is too late
Wake up, you lazy sinners!  Recognize and bow down to the ONE TRUE Church of God! God is only working with one church and one church only.  God is not pleased in any of the other COG's out there, only in this one.

Wake up and cast away your Laodicean attitude and turn your heart to the ONE TRUE COG leader and his personality cult?

Bob Thiel is waiting for you....you lazy backsliding fake Christians and atheists!  Shame on you!

Dr Bob Thiel Presents: The Link Between Covid-19 and Baloney



If boredom is a factor in your life at the moment, you have 13 minutes and 54 seconds to waste and you can stand the world's most annoying and distracting gestures not unlike those I have seen in epileptic seizing, here is Dr Thiel's contribution to the current distress.  Ultimately and evidently all this will lead to a  cashless society which definitely is connected to 666 and the ride of the Four Hosemen of the Puckerlips spoken of in Revelation of course. 

Without the Book of Revelation and Daniel, the Churches of God and certainly Bob Thiel would have no message at all and every disaster, small or great is an opportunity to instill more fear into an already rather dicey human dilemma at the moment. 

I can understand that "the flu is far worse" and "Is this a false flag?" might annoy and be considered spreading false information at such a time of this getting his great video canned. 

 Whatever Bob is, he is no scientist as his faith restrictions have clouded his critical thinking,  common sense and good judgment leading to this...


Is Bob Thiel's ministry one of the Seven Last Plagues?
Did God run out of locusts and send The Continuing Church of God instead?
Can hand waving and shoulder shrugging be a sign of the end?
Just What Do You Mean Change the Damn Curtains?
C'mon Now, Just Who Really is The Foolish Shepherd of Zechariah 11:15?


Mark Armstrong Begrudginlgy Cancels Services, Believes He Is Being "flimflammed" Into Doing It



Mark Armstrong has finally spoken out about his take on the coronavirus and whether or not to let his members attend services.

If Mark had his way all of his members would be parked in church services today....however, out of respect for the President and the Governor of Texas he says he will "honor" their request to not assemble in groups of 10 or more.  You can tell by his sarcastic response below that he thinks he and everyone else is being "flimflammed" over this virus.  It is hard for him to sit there and "swallow" what's happening.

“Lock-down” is prison jargon for solitary confinement.  Now it’s being used to describe mandatory quarantining for citizens told to “shelter in place.”  Some states are promising fines and prosecutions for those who disobey. …
We’ve had to make decisions regarding church services, and here’s our position.  Out of respect for President Trump and Governor Abbott of Texas, we’re going to honor their request or order as the case may be, to limit gatherings to ten people or less.  We intend to hold a “skeleton crew” Sabbath service here in Tyler, asking most of the congregation to stay home.  We expect to have the bare minimum on hand for the service in order to keep current sermons and updates going out via DVD, and we also make the current sermons available on Youtube.
We hope the authorities know what they’re doing.  Maybe it’s prudent to wreck the economy on account of this virus, but time will tell.  There’s no doubt that people who’ve held their wealth in the stock market are getting hammered.  Their only hope is to ride this thing out and hope that the market “takes off like a rocket” (as the President has suggested) once the all-clear is sounded.  Assuming it ever is.
Pardon our skepticism, but after being flimflammed by mainstream outlets telling one monstrous whopper after another until their credibility hit rock bottom, it’s not easy to swallow the fear they’re selling.  But it looks as though the President and many state governors have bought into the necessity of quarantining nearly the entire population in the hope that the contagion will be brought under control. …
Those trusting in God are not given to fear.  That’s our story, and we’re sticking to it.
Mark

UPDATED: Gerald Weston: Sends Out Rules For Sabbath Observance At Home



From an LCG source:

Weston has sent out rules for Sabbath observance at home and other items moving forward:

1. Dress in usual Sabbath attire. 
2. Do not serve hors d'oeuvres. 
3. Do not pause the sermon. 
4. Only listen to live HQ sermon. 
5. Do not use this opportunity to minister shop for messages. 
6. Do not gather with other families. 
7. Stay home alone and use social media to fellowship. 
8. You have no right to complain when we at HQ are slow to respond. 
9. Sit quietly at home and wait for us to speak. Stop spreading rumors. 
10. You will fast on March 28th and tune in for 1:00 PM HQ service. 
11. You will observe Passover and NTBMO home alone. 
12. You will use Livestream or pre-recorded messages to self-administer Passover and NTBMO. 
13. Use the on-line donation system to pay tithes and offerings. 
14. Do not mail us cash. 
15. We may be deciding where you will keep the Feast of Tabernacles. 
16.  Links and passwords are not to be shared with anyone not members of the church. 
17. Oh and...love one another.

Note:  At first I thought this was a joke, but asked my source if it was true and the person said yes.  I guess I should not be shocked at the callous brazenness of Weston in his attempt to control members, but I should not.  This is the track record of LCG and many of the Churches of God today in 2020.



Satan Attacks Bob Thiel!!!!!!!!!!


Oh, the horrors! Considering his video was full of deluded prophetic nonsense, Vimeo did the right thing.  Why should more people be deceived by this liar than there are already?

Here is want Vimeo said about his video:

Hello Bible News Prophecy,Your video “COVID 19 Leading to 666?” has been removed for violating our Guidelines.
Reason: You cannot upload videos that depict or encourage self-harm, falsely claim that mass tragedies are hoaxes, or perpetuate false or misleading claims about vaccine safety.
For more information on our content and community policies, please visit https://vimeo.com/help/ guidelines.
If you believe this was an error, please reply to this message as soon as possible to explain. (Please be aware that Vimeo moderators take action as violations come to our attention. “I see other people do it” is not a valid explanation.)
Sincerely,
Vimeo Staff
This then drew a swift response from the self-appointed unordained prophet:

So, to appeal, I wrote the following: 
Dear Vimeo:
You removal does not make any sense to us.
Your stated reason for removal was “You cannot upload videos that depict or encourage self-harm, falsely claim that mass tragedies are hoaxes, or perpetuate false or misleading claims about vaccine safety.”
Our video DOES NOT “depict or encourage self-harm, falsely claim that mass tragedies are hoaxes, or perpetuate false or misleading claims about vaccine safety.”
None of those matters are in the video.
Is the real concern that you do not believe that we can quote biblical prophecies and tie them in with world events?
Because that is what that video does.
If there is a specific statement made that you have a problem with, please let me know.
But reviewing your guidelines, we violated none of them.
Please reconsider as this makes no sense to us.
The problem is that we have a self-appointed liar who is preaching heretical nonsense.  There is nothing prophetic about what Thiel is presenting other than the self-convinced delusions of a disturbed little man.


Friday, March 20, 2020

Will COG's Help Those Members In Need Who Are Off Work During The Coronavirus Shut Down ?



We all know what the answer to that will be...

Please list those COG's that will financially help church members in your comments below...





PCG Cancels Services Sabbath Services in England and Europe



A notice has gone out from the cult compound in Edmond, Oklahoma in regards to Philadelphia Church of God Sabbath services in the UK and Europe.  Shockingly, Gerald Flurry has given permission to cancel services.

Some church members silently welcome this development while others are very upset. Far too many in the COG feel that their church leaders are capitulating to government rulings on the virus instead of relying on God to protect them.

The fact that any COG member needs to wait to hear from their church HQ on whether or not to go to church on Saturdays is sad.  Use your own mind and do what you know to be right and stay home. Ensure your own safety because your church leaders do not care.






Don't Try This Trick At Home...Or Anywhere...Ever


This reality would be true of anyone, Prophet, Priest, Pastor or Parishioner who put their faith before their common sense. I do suspect that COG ministers will not be exhibiting this kind of faith personally when called out to anoint the sick, who then shall be made well.

I suspect they will opt for the standard "anointed cloth" based on "

New International Version
...so that even handkerchiefs and aprons that had touched him were taken to the sick, and their illnesses were cured and the evil spirits left them."
Acts 19 :12

...but I never personally found that to be effective or work either and know of none who did personally. I also found the "handkerchiefs and aprons that had touched HIM" were cultish and probably ranked along side Paul's claims to have gone to the Third Heaven and hallucinated a calling from Jesus to go from persecutor to Apostle skipping student in between. But that's just me. 

Italy’s virus kills priests who bless the dying


"They come to bless those suffering the most from the novel coronavirus. And then, more and more often, Italy’s priests die themselves.
The diocese of Bergamo northeast of Milan appears to have been ravaged the most by the stealth killer.
At least 10 of its priests have died of COVID-19, the Catholic daily Avvenire reported Thursday.
The deaths, whether of priests or members of their communities, are “so numerous that it is difficult to count”, the paper wrote.
Five more fatalities were registered in the city of Parma. Still more virus-related deaths emerged among priests in Brescia, Cremona and the northern industrial hub of Milan itself.
All these parishes are clustered in Italy’s north, the virus’s target from the day the Catholic country’s first death was reported four weeks ago.
More than 3,400 Italians have died from the virus since then.
Italy has taken over the grim title of being the global epicentre of the pandemic from China, where COVID-19 was first reported in late December.
– Dying more than doctors –
Like doctors, Italy’s priests come in contact with the disease’s most serious cases.
And like doctors, priests are known to congregate among themselves in close quarters, creating the perfect conditions for contagion."
A count by Italy’s ANSA news agency on Thursday put the number of medics killed by the disease at 13.
Figures reported by Italian media suggest the death toll among priests is higher. At least 18 priests have been reported killed."

Thursday, March 19, 2020

Philadelphia Church of God: Coronavirus "It is all a manufactured crisis!"


Below is the latest from Gerald Flurry's cult compound. Like other COG leaders, they see the coronavirus precautions as emotional and fear-based.  You can be guaranteed that PCG members will be required to be on the compound this Saturday for church services. The minds of COG leaders are getting sicker by the minute.  It is all a manufactured crisis!

Humanity is in the grip of a global pandemic considerably more devastating than the coronavirus. This awful, highly infectious flu has triggered a worldwide contagion of irrational fear and emotion. Man has lost his mind.
The ramifications of this universal abdication of reason are vast and unknown. Right now, the world is in total lockdown: Millions of people are in quarantine, a calamity for countless individuals and businesses; stock markets and economies are in free fall, even as federal governments are racking up unparalleled debt trying to save them; and many experts believe the world has entered recession. Meanwhile, national borders are closing, soldiers are being deployed to the streets in cities across the Earth, and some countries are enacting wartime laws and measures, equipping many federal governments with authoritarian power.
In aviation, when a pilot becomes disoriented and loses spatial awareness, he can panic and make decisions that send the aircraft into an out-of-control free fall, a fatal moment called the graveyard spiral. Has the panic over coronavirus plunged mankind into a graveyard spiral?
Never fear though!  This is all God's will!


From the moment the coronavirus crisis began, the Trumpet has explained that this disease is fulfilling Bible prophecy. Many biblical passages, such as Revelation 6 and Matthew 24, forecast disease pandemics in the time just before Jesus Christ returns. The truth is, as Trumpet editor in chief Gerald Flurry recently warned, we can “expect diseases like this new Wuhan coronavirus to get worse, and to eventually spread like medieval pandemics and kill millions of people!”
The church does not need these liars claiming this is prophecy in action any more than it needs Bob Thiel making his poofy declarations. 

Even though almost every country on earth today now is infected, the Flurry clan sees this as a special punishment for America, Britain and Israel and other "British Israelite" nations thrown in for good measure.


For now, let’s consider Amos 7:7-8, which describe the moment God reveals this prophecy to Amos: “He showed me: behold, the Lord was standing beside a wall built with a plumb line, with a plumb line in his hand. And the Lord said to me, ‘Amos, what do you see?’ And I said, ‘A plumb line.’ Then the Lord said, ‘Behold, I am setting a plumb line in the midst of my people Israel; I will never again pass by them’” (rsv). God Himself is talking here, and He is focusing our attention on the plumb line in His hand.
A plumb line is a measuring device; it’s an instrument used to calculate measurements and guarantee accurate construction. These verses show that God is “measuring the destruction that is to come upon the nations of Israel,” Mr. Flurry writes in Great Again. “This destruction is not randomGod is measuring it carefully and precisely. And it will bring about the most wonderful results imaginable.”
Here in Amos 7, God specifically states that He measures the punishments that are to come upon the nations of Israel, predominately America, but Britain and the State of Israel, too. God delivers the punishment with divine precision.
The Flurry's and PCG are infatuated with President Trump. 
What does this mean practically? It means that God takes a personal interest in the coronavirus and its impact on America and Britain. He is aware of the consequences for President Trump and his administration, and the toll this will take on America’s economy and the public in general. He sees that the radical left is using this crisis to attack the president. It’s impossible for me to say whether America’s resurgence is over, or if this disaster will puncture Mr. Trump’s hope of reelection. But thanks to Amos 7, I can tell you that God is paying close attention to this crisis and that it will fulfill His will.
They then make this comment:
I can also state: The coronavirus is not going to take down President Trump and neither is the radical left, which has played an instrumental role in manufacturing this crisis, as it uses it to further its agenda. As the market crashes and the shelves empty, remember this: God is monitoring this situation closely; it is unfolding exactly according to His plan. Amos 7 makes it clear that Mr. Trump will be brought down by God, on His time schedule, and on His terms. 

Norbert Link Goes Into Meltdown Over Travel Bans


One of the more odorous know-it-alls on Youtube with a Church of God background is Norbert Link. He is a perfect example of the arrogance that Wes White mentioned in the previous post about the cavalier attitudes of the Church of God leaders concerning the coronavirus.

His narcissistic whining is on the same ear numbing scale os Bob Thiel.  Both are pathetic spokesmen for their cause.

He is an evangelist of bullshit and certainly not an evangelist for God. He is another one who is disturbed by that dude who seems to make all COG leaders so uncomfortable. Has he ever spoke about Jesus?

Disgusting, to say the least.

Wes White on the Relationship of Banned to the Churches of God




Proverbs 22:3 says: A prudent person foresees danger and takes precautions.  The simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences.

Because of this Scripture, I gotta tell you that I’m not afraid to read things that are written by people who believe really differently than we do in the Sabbath-keeping churches of God.   Reading things that don’t match up with our religious dogma doesn’t scare me. 

Even when I was a student at Ambassador College in the 1970s, I used to read this magazine called Ambassador Watch.   It was published by dissident students who had left AC because they were…  Well, they were dissidents.  So they left.

It’s now 40 years later and I don’t regret reading those issues.  Sure, they wrote a lot of doctrinal stuff that I didn’t agree with back then… and I still don’t agree with it today.  But they had their facts right regarding things that were going on at the college.  When you look back at all those old issues, you see that they were telling the truth about what was going on at AC. 

Today, there’s a blog site out there called Banned.  It’s run by former members of the Sabbath-keeping churches of God.  Now, do I agree with their new doctrinal positions? No.  I disagree with a lot of their stuff. 

But they do report on things going on in the Sabbath-keeping COGs – things that it doesn’t hurt for us to know about.   Let me elaborate. 

Weeks ago, I saw that Nancy was going to have to cancel the Women’s Conference.  At first, Nancy resisted me on this.  She didn’t want to cancel.  But finally, I put my foot down and said, “Sweetheart, you’re going to have to postpone this thing to later – after this coronavirus passes.”  She did.

And we were ahead of the curve on this.  No, I’m not a prophet.  I was only following Proverbs 22:3.

Then, after Nancy canceled, most of the Sabbath-keeping churches of God started doing either mandatory canceling or voluntary canceling of their Sabbath services.  

But not all of them did this. 

Months ago – long before this coronavirus pandemic -- the Living Church of God scheduled their ministerial conference where 300 of their ministers and their wives were going to have a big meeting covering several days in Charlotte NC.

Now, what do you think the average age is of the ministers in Living?  It’s high.  Like 60 or 70.   Guys who are really going to be in danger if they get exposed to the coronavirus. 

Well, the blog site called Banned kept asking questions about this conference in their postings.  They said, “When is Living going to cancel this thing?  If they don’t, some of their old ministers are going to catch this thing and die.”

And I mean, Banned kept up the drumbeat day after day.  They were like a dog on a bone because they were alarmed by the lack of foresight on the part of Living’s leaders.

Then, the members of Living started taking note of what was being posted on Banned.  And these members of Living would write Comments on Banned.  The members were saying that they were having to find out what was going on in Living… by reading the Banned blog site.  Because they weren’t getting any information from their own church. 

Then, these members started putting pressure on Living to cancel this conference.   Like the writers on Banned, the members didn’t want any of these old guys in the ministry to die.  

The good news is that Living finally – after a lot of pressure – canceled their ministerial conference. 

Because of all this, I believe the following.  And I know a lot of people are going to disagree with me.  But I really believe -- that we owe a debt of gratitude to Banned for exposing LCGs refusal to cancel their ministerial conference.  

I believe that Banned has probably saved the lives of a lot of Living’s ministers -- by causing this groundswell to cancel the conference.

I believe that – while Banned does not agree with the way the leaders of Living are operating that church organization – the people at Banned certainly don’t want to see a bunch of old guys die because of incompetent management at the top of their church organization. 

You may not like hearing me say nice things about Banned.  I’m sure the ministers in your church do everything that can to keep you from reading Banned.      After all, Banned operates in the spirit of the old Ambassador Report.  Banned also operates in the spirit of the now-defunct Journal, but to a much higher degree of effectiveness than the Journal.

I say this because – if you want to know what’s going on in the COGs today – the number one place to go is Banned.  Again, I don’t let my doctrinal disagreements with Banned bother me because Banned is a really good source for information regarding the state of the COGs. 

Banned is exposing the mismanagement, the sins, and the hypocrisies of the Sabbath-keeping COG leadership. 

And I’m telling you:  As Christians -- if we are going to really conduct our lives under the pinciple mentioned in Proverbs 22:3 -- we must look to other sources for information.  I’m sorry to tell you that you cannot rely only on your church organization to tell you what’s going on within your group.  Your church is NOT going to tell you everything that’s happening.  And I’m telling you that this rule applies to every COG group out there. 

This principle of looking to other sources also applies to politics.  Most of the people I know only watch or listen to political programs that agree with their political position.  And this is stupid.  This action is willful ignorance.   If you really want to think of yourself as being an educated person, you must listen to sources with whom you disagree!  Otherwise, you’re just wasting your time yelling into an echo chamber. 

Contact Wes White here


Note from Banned blog author

The entire purpose of this blog has always been to expose the blatant hypocrisy of the Church of God leaders who think they are above reproach and cannot be held accountable for their actions. Those days are long gone with the rise of the internet. Blogs, newsgroups, chain letters, and other devices of communication are what helped break up the old Worldwide Church of God when they were speaking out of both sides of their mouth while making major doctrinal changes and simultaneously denying they were.


After the church imploded and various former ministers of the church set themselves up as new potentates of their new money-making empires, they all had the chance to reinvent the church into something meaningful that truly pointed toward the God they all claim to follow. As we have sadly seen over the last 30 some years, that has never been the case. These men reverted back to the old ways of leadership and never made any attempt to undo the abuses of the past while moving forward with conviction and faith in a unified goal. Money and keeping their lifestyle intact was the primary goal of every one of these groups. Now have well over 400 different splinter groups all claiming they are the "one true way" and that "God speaks exclusively through them and their group." Sadly, every single reader here knows this is not true. Even those in LCG, UCG and other groups that regularly read here know that this is not true of their own groups. That is why so many come here to find out what is going on in their group.

The Church of God is filled with many sincere and dedicated Christians who truly are trying to make a difference in their lives and the world around them. I have never had any problem with that. It is the church leaders, the self-appointed lying hypocrites that continue to abuse and destroy members' lives, these are the ones I find offense at.

Now that the world and the Churches of God are dealing with a major crisis it has been appaling to watch the reaction of some of these church leaders. Instead of following wise decisions of Health Department offices, City and National leaders, these know-it-alls do not have the wherewithal to make a real decision and cancel services, cancel Passover, Bible Studies, and other church events coming up over the coming months. Every single one of these men looks at the closing of services as a means of cutting off income. That is their top priority and nothing more. It is certainly has NOTHING to do with the safety and welfare of their members. All of their pontificating and the "we love you brethren" comments are empty and heartless.

I never had an idea this blog would go on as long as it has or touch so many people. We are close to 7.5 million hits and they keep coming to see what is happening in the church. The sad thing is that there should be NO NEED for this blog if the church leaders were actually men of faith and actually followed Jesus. Imagine what a grand thing that would be! Who will step up to the plate and do that? Bob Thiel? Dave Pack? Gerald Weston? James Malm? Mark Armstrong? Gerald Flurry? Jim Franks? Ron Weinland? Who?  How long do we have to wait?

















Grace Communion International Day of Prayer and Fasting Concerning Coronavirus


One thing I have to hand to GCI is that they are doing this for the better good of humanity and not just focusing upon themselves and their own church group as most of the Church of God leaders are doing now.  I have yet to hear of any COG leader asking their followers to pray for researchers, civic and health officials, or those whose income is being hit.  Instead, we see the obscene demands for members to still gather in group meetings and to keep sending in their tithe money and extra offerings.


Dear Church Family,

It is an historic time for our collective nations around the world. A shared crisis has each country, state, city, village, and family managing through this challenge in similar ways. The effort to slow the virus and to protect those most susceptible is being practiced by almost everybody around the globe.

I am very proud of our church family and how church leaders and pastors have united to thoughtfully and carefully serve the membership. It is impressive how so many of the pastors are utilizing technology to stay in touch with members and to stream sermons online so that we are able to gather in our homes (this Sunday, my wife and I were so glad to gather with our children and hear an inspirational message online from a GCI pastor).

As we collectively process through the weeks, and possibly months ahead, I believe it is appropriate that we go before the Lord as a denomination in a day of prayer and fasting. In order to include our members spread across the world, I am recommending that either Sunday March 22nd or Sunday March 29th be your day to join the Grace Communion “International Family” in our time of special focus toward our amazing Triune God. (For those with health challenges please be mindful that a fast does not have to be a strict 24 hour period without water or food.)

Paul’s encouragement to the church at Philippi frames our mindset:


4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your gentleness be known to everyone. The Lord is near. 6 Do not worry about anything, but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known to God. 7 And the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus. (Philippians 4:4–7 NRSVA)

As we spend time in prayer and fasting, certain thoughts come to mind:

  • Jesus is our foundation, and the personification of our hope;
  • Jesus is near, and promises to never leave nor forsake us;
  • God is Healer, and we pray for his intervention for those who are sick throughout the world;
  • God strengthens those who are weak, ask for his strength for the medical personnel serving tirelessly;
  • God provides wisdom from above, pray for insight to be given to researchers seeking solutions;
  • God tells us to pray for our leaders, may his guidance encircle the civic leaders and health officials;
  • God is Provider, seek his provision for those whose income and economic standing have been greatly impacted by this crisis;
  • Holy Spirit guard us from fear or anxiety, and give us your divine peace which is beyond our human understanding;
  • Holy Spirit open hearts and minds to the glorious light and saving power of Jesus which lifts us above any human crisis.
Thy will be done in the powerful name of Jesus. And let the church around the world say – Amen!


Greg WilliamsPresident Grace Communion International

Prophet Bob Fudges and Refuses to Bend His Knees to Common Sense and Good Judgment


While you should take reasonable precautions, you do not need to fear.

Perhaps I should mention that our elder in Serbia, Aleksandar ‘Sasha’ Veljic told me that a bank basically told him that because of COVID-19 he should use digital forms of payment instead of cash. He related that to the warnings we gave in our video COVID-19 Leading to 666?
As far as physical things associated with COVID-19 go, the following link has information on that as well as other links some may find helpful: CDC: COVID-19 spreading; How to tell if you have the coronavirus, cold, or allergies; Symptoms and preparation recommendations.

Now, with all the quarantines and travel restrictions being imposed, what about attendance at weekly Sabbath services?

Our policy has always been, and still remains, if you have a contagious disease, you should not attend church services.

In this time of COVID-19, if you think you may have a fever, you should not attend services. If you are not feeling well, please stay home.

As far as ‘social distancing’ goes, church leaders in their respective countries and local groups need to decide the relative safety of holding Sabbath services (though in some places landlords and/or government officials may be placing their own limits–the early Christian church met in houses and that is one thing that can be done when meeting halls are not around and/or there are governmental restrictions) as not only are they closer to their situation, they can react to local conditions in a timely way.
(Fudge factor)

If any person is not comfortable being in a group at this time, they may wish to stay home. And, of course, we do have services available online which is what most native English speakers we have are doing already.
(Fudge factor)

Tuesday, the BBC reported that German, “Chancellor Angela Merkel has banned religious services and told people to cancel any domestic or foreign holiday travel” (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51918596 03/17/20).

While we cooperate with government authorities when we can, we do not believe that government authorities should interfere with the ability to hold holy convocations or other biblical observances.
(Wrong-This is for the public good and should not be likened to persecution of beliefs)




As the Apostles said, “We must obey God rather than men” (Acts 5:29).
(Note: The context of this is the Apostle being told not to teach. It is not about public safety and resisting obedience to the powers that be in an emergency situation in the community or in this case, the planet)

Hence, yes, we believe that true Christians should, for example, keep Passover next month. Though in some areas, it may be wise to have only very small groups meeting together."
(At home if necessary and if required by government agents "appointed by God")

Wrong Bob. You are endangering your congregants AND the public with whom they will come in contact with.

Bad Bob...bad
Love your neighbor, not just your groupies, as yourself remember? 


...and too Bob, may as well throw this in...

I Corinthians 13


 If I speak in the tongues[a] of men or of angels, (Which you don't) but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. (Which you already are)If I have the gift of prophecy (Which you don't) and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, (Which you can't) and if I have a faith that can move mountains, (Which you will never do)but do not have love, I am nothing. (Which you are) If I give all I possess to the poor (Which you won't)and give over my body to hardship that I may boast, (Which you would if you could but won't)[b] but do not have love, I gain nothing. 
Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10 but when completeness comes, what is in part disappears. 11 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child.(And you still do) When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me. 12 For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.
13 And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love. (double portions, pork and Sabbaths)

Here's all you had to say

"Greetings Brethren.  Due to the present distress with the spreading Covid-19 virus and as a medical professional and scientist, I am asking that all government directives be followed until further notice. This applies to Bible studies, Sabbath Services and the upcoming Holydays if necessary. While not what we would wish to be, it is the the right thing, out of an abundance of caution, to do at this time."