Tuesday, July 27, 2021

Update from the Apostle Pack: When "I am sadly and completely mistaken" is simply too hard to admit



 "Prophecy Update

Since Parts 307 & 308, the picture you heard has further solidified! The overall Kingdom structure remains the same, with a slight modification to timing.

Recall there is a small Kingdom leading to the Man of Sin and Day of Christ—the 1,335 days. Then is a 45-day Kingdom before the 1,290 when the abomination is set up and the “devour” month begins. All this is correct! What further clarified is when the month begins.

There was certainly a strong case for Trumpets, but many verses suddenly came together in an unexpected way that makes the Day of Atonement the apparent backstop for the 1,290. In fact, it is clear Israel keeps Trumpets before captivity and appears to be in captivity for Atonement! Thus the tiny Kingdom of Israel before the Day of Christ could start any time in the coming days. Rather than “time is running out,” or even “has run out,” the picture has instead ripened to “any day from now on.”

Brethren, let’s remain alert with our “lights burning” (Luke 12:35). Let’s continue praying God’s Kingdom come more than ever. We look forward to seeing all of you soon!"




Monday, July 26, 2021

Dave Pack: The "god" that he calls the "father" is coming to beat, mutilate, and gouge the eyes out of those who leave his cult



These are summary points of a couple of Dave's latest sermons. He is well into the 300's now and still making excuses each week when his creature he calls "christ" has not returned.  The longer that delay happens the angrier the guy seems to get. Now he looks with glee on those who have left the church because of his lies will soon be mutilated by his god and have their eyes gouged out.

This is the face of Armstrongite cultism, regardless of which splinter group people are in. 


From an RCG source:

Sermon 293 & 294. comments of interest

Sermon 293

4:20 - God the Father was in the Pillar and followed the Israelites


4:50 - Raising a prophet like Moses in the modern age


6:45 - We hope the series is over


11:38 - We shouldn't assume we won't see God [Father], we will only see Him as He is when we are like him. People saw him all the time.


12:30 - God calls Dave to His foot, and God has His foot on earth and brings his throne here. (Isaiah) 

30:50 - I want this all to be clear

36:15 - Judge nothing before the time

38:30-39:50 - Sweep your mind clear

43:30 - Revelation 16:15 - Not Son of Man,

45:05 - Finished a commission, knows its time to watch


46:30 - People don't abide the day of the coming, they beat us and go back to the world!


47:50 - Must be the Fathers arrival! people will be mutiliated and beaten with their eye gouged out.


50:52 - The Gateway Prophecy, Dave had to prepare the way before the Lord God, had the right prophecy and wrong person, so I got that wrong


55:30 - Some messenger some way somewhere, I haven't even heard of them.

(Doesn't recognize John Baptist)


1:02:30 - We are at a time when iniquity needs to end!


1:04:11 - God the Father will purify, etc...


1:05:48 - I never knew to look for the Father until about a week ago, it lines up perfectly, Elijah is given everything God has


1:07:00 - No way to argue, once I prepared the way, then it happens!


1:10:44 - This is just a mirror of Dave is doing


1:16:00 - Anoints David, this is DCP


1:23:20 - I am coming quickly off this messenger explains these prophecies! Rushing coming off coming quickly!


1:23:33 - About to sound when His kingdom is near!


1:28:40 - We will confound the mighty!


1:33:40-34:59 - Every evidence coming off the last day of unleavened bread! Watch!I would know when it's done.


end of message, essentially the mystery of god is revealed! 

 

Sermon 294 - 

 

4:29 - If anything needs to be changed, I reserve the right to do this or correct a point or two.


7:50 - Briefest moment


8:10 -Christ has a prophetic signature


13:30 - Why its an hour and trial forms the last sermon, I hope, I will ever give. I didn't get it until I was shown.


17:08-17:50 - Who abides the day of His coming? Many people who leave will be cut asunder.


A day that comes as a thief, "out of the gate, and suddenly," this is the "Father" coming to kill all the people who left the church.

++27:15 - The bible is an enigmatic book, god guides us..."


30:20 - Describes the arrival of the Father and Christ is coming to split families up


Sunday, July 25, 2021

Bobby Fischer: Chess Grand Master, WCG Celebrity, And His Journey Across The Tiber

 Armstrongism has had a few high-profile members over the years and two of its most known members were Dan Truhitte of The Sound of Music who played Rolf and chess Grand Master, Bobby Fischer. both of these men were exploited by the church due to their celebrity status. Garner Ted Armstrong used Truhitte in the America Listen's Campaign and the church exploited Bobby Fischer for his money and his fame.

There was an article released the other day on the Church Militant website about Bobby Fischer. It is really well written and covers a lot about Fischer I had never heard before particularly Fischer's end-of-life journey.

The article starts off with this:

"It appears that the greatest avatar of chess mastery that the world has ever known (and that, perhaps, it will ever know), the man with an intelligence quotient that dwarfed Albert Einstein's, the indigent Brooklyn-prodigy-turned-unlikely-Cold-War-hero, former world chess champion Robert James Fischer "crossed the Tiber" and converted to Catholicism in the final days of his life.

The story of Bobby Fischer's remarkable rise, enigmatic disappearance and tragic fall is one that has, for decades, captivated chess fans and chess muggles alike. It's an epic that continues to vex the world because of its sheer inimitability: There's simply nothing like the Fischer story anywhere to be found in the annals of sporting history. And now, it looks as if the legend of Fischer, once widely supposed to have resolved in bitter ignominy, ended on a note of utmost felicity — with his dying in the bosom of God's one true Church.

Perhaps the primary reason that so many sympathize with Fischer's story (aside from their admiration for his unparalleled genius on the chessboard and his lasting contributions to the theory of the game) is that, despite the disadvantageous circumstances that he was born into, he seemed to be — even during the periods of his life in which he proved to be loudly and painfully misguided (and there were many) — a sincere seeker of truth and a stickler for principle."

After a well researched and description of his life as the son of a poor Jewish mother where he got his first chess set at the age of 6, to the point he entered into the Worldwide Church of God, we get to this:

After living an arduous and austere life in an "almost monastic pursuit of the world championship" (to quote Fischer biographer Frank Brady), Bobby wanted to pursue his religious studies — he was a member of a fundamentalist church, the Worldwide Church of God, which he had given $60,000 of his world championship purse — and to meet a girl and fall in love (Frank Brady, Endgame: Bobby Fischer's Remarkable Rise and Fall — From America's Brightest Prodigy to the Edge of Madness (New York: Crown Publishing, 2011), 205)."

And then this: 

While he began his chess sabbatical with the high-minded ideals of growing in faith and seeking vocation, such noble intentions were soon derailed by the harsh realities of life in a post-edenic world. Bobby had long proudly carried the banner of the Worldwide Church of God, observing its tenets, bankrolling its coffers, even speaking frequently of the impending "Rapture" per its queer doctrines. But his faith in his church was irreparably damaged when "prophecies" about a 1972 second coming of Christ made by the church's founder, Herbert W. Armstrong, proved to be false. Fischer, realizing that he had been hoodwinked, delivered a searing invective:

The real proof for me were those prophecies ... that show to me that [Armstrong] is an outright huckster. ... I thought, "This doesn't seem right. I gave all my money. Everybody has been telling me this [about apocalyptic events that were to unfold in 1972] for years. And now, he's half-denying he ever said it, even when I remember him saying it a hundred times." … If you talk about fulfillment of prophecy, he is a fulfillment of Elmer Gantry. If Elmer Gantry was the Elijah, Armstrong's the Christ of religious hucksters. There is no way he could truly be God's prophet. Either God is a masochist and likes to be made a fool of, or else Herbert Armstrong is a false prophet. 
 
So Fischer, disenchanted with the version of Christianity he long supposed to be true, began groping for meaning elsewhere, eventually straying into irreligion altogether. Nature, it is said, abhors a vacuum.

The article then goes on to describe his descent into atheism (due to his association and exploitation by the WCG) and then into his publicized anti-semitism. It then describes him meeting up with a man who once again sparks his interest in God. The article ends with this:

However, in his final days, Fischer played one last gambit, a curious move that seems to suggest that — maybe, just maybe — he found his way back home to the Barque of Peter: Fischer requested, according to officials from the Catholic Church of Iceland, that he be "buried as a Catholic." On Monday, Jan. 21, 2008, under the unrelenting blackness of the northern winter sky, Bobby Fischer's broken body was lowered into the frozen earth, in a funeral attended by five people. In accord with his last wishes, a French Catholic priest, Fr. Jakob Rolland, presided over the humble ceremony, commending Fischer's soul to its Maker and, hopefully, to the eternal light of the beatific vision. 
 
While we may never definitively know if Fischer officially became Catholic, he, at the very least, fit the bill for a baptism of desire. While God binds Himself to His sacraments, He is not bound by the sacraments, and He can confer salvation — by means understood by the Divine Mind alone — on those who, by no fault of their own, die without formal incorporation into the Church. The illustrious St. Thomas Aquinas himself tells us that "when a man wishes to be baptized but by some ill chance he is forestalled by death before receiving baptism," he "can obtain salvation without being actually baptized, on account of his desire." 
 
If I were a betting man (and I am), I'd wager that Fischer found his way, at long last, into the one true Church. And, if that's the case, the patroness of chess, St. Teresa of Avila, better watch out: There's a pretty daunting new act in town.

The article is fascinating in the covering of the life of Bobby Fischer that I have not seen in other articles about the man. The article can be found here:

THE REDEMPTION OF CHESS LEGEND BOBBY FISCHER