Can We Say Attention Deficit Disorder?

Almost-Arrested Elisha, Elijah, Amos, Joshua, Prophet, Mayan Authority, Bitter Bob listed the contents of his latest sermon that he put up online.  These are the topics he talks about in one single sermon that he expects his couple hundred people to listen to on what he calls "the sabbath." Since he continually breaks it, I don't know why he bothers wasting so much time "preparing" his sermons.

After he waves his bible at you and flails his hands about he gets to his topics this week in Part 11 of an ongoing series:

Destruction of the temple
The beginning of sorrows
Ecumenical/interfaith movements, 

Earthquakes

Famines

Pestilence

Persecution

Preach the gospel to the world

Holy place of Matthew 24

How to not get pregnant in the end times

Jesus expects people to keep sabbath in the end times

Sequence leading to tribulation

Why others are wrong (Bob is incapable of being wrong so everyone else is)

Scriptures relating to return of Jesus

Then he says this:

Dr. Thiel also reads each and every verse in the twenty-fourth chapter of Matthew’s Gospel.

Are people too stupid to know how to read?  Why in the world would anyone sit there and listen to the false prophet read the entire chapter?

Why would anyone sit there and listen to all of these topics in ONE sermon?  Don't forget his has been pulling this crap every single week!  Talk about attention deficit disorder!  While he does mention the name Jesus he doesn't talk about any of the concepts the most inconvenient dude tried to get across.  It's easier to bastardized the law, make dumb false prophecies and try to prove he is somehow "doubly blessed." 

Put the over-stuffed Bible down and say what you need to say in 15-20 minutes and then sit down!

Don Ward Demands UCG Members Submit to Ministry. Is UCG Headed For More Trouble?

When the elite of the present day UCG conspired and worked behind the scenes to form their new church, while still employed by WCG, they thought they were taking the best and the brightest of the ministry with them.  Following the government and church organization of the WCG was of little importance to them. They would finally have the most unified splinter group that the church had ever seen and would do amazing things.  Now 20 years later, UCG is a mess.  A major split decimated the ministry and membership.  Families, marriages and friendships were ripped apart as members aligned themselves with the camp they felt was most righteous. Various smaller groups have also broken off since then aand members slowly bleed away today out of boredom and lack of inspiration.

UCG has never fully recovered from this relationship shattering event, no matter how much they claim they are united today. Factions still exist, both in the membership and the ministry, that threaten to split the church again.

Expensive media campaigns along with ROKU and AppleTV broadcasts have not drawn in the potential members they were seeking.  Infighting and arguing still go on as two camps are divided on changing doctrines and practices.  No matter how many times they stand up and deny changes are in the pipeline, people know differently.

Don Ward, another one of God's most important men to have ever graced the COG, preached a sermon recently on the expectation that the UCG members MUST obey the ministry whenever they speak.  As conduits of godly government, everything they say and do comes directly from their god and she does not take too kindly to members not following her directions.

You can listen to Ward's sermon here: Church Government and Organization: Is there authority in the church and is it organized?

The COG has always been about authority and power in its ranks.  Jesus, the man that makes them really uncomfortable, was all about breaking the chains of oppression from government, rules and regulations.  Grace, mercy, and justice were the game changers that thwart the legalists in the church in the time of Jesus just as it does today.  That's why all the lies of Malm, Thiel, Pack, and others carry no weight today.  People are sick of the legalistic bullshit that keeps getting dumped upon them.

Prophet, Magician or Liar?

Bob Thiel is nothing more than an astrologer, palm reader, fortune teller, or other sort of cold reader.

His "prophecies" are generalized statements about often mundane things that it's not hard to forecast based upon the past or upon current trends, couched in metrics so vague you'd be hard pressed to say if many of them had come true or not. He carpet bombs with a couple dozen of these so-called "prophecies" and then waits for 6 months, a year, two years or more, until he can arguably say this one or that on "came true." Of course, it's so vague there's little basis to say so one way or the other for sure. But as long as he can crow victory eventually over 10 or 15 of them, that's all that matters to Bob. The rest he'll keep quiet about, and hopefully those who notice the failures won't be enough to notice. You'll certainly never find Bob admitting to having uttered any "prophecies" that turned out to be false. It's kind of like prophesying that the price of an ounce of gold or a barrel of oil will hit $x. Sure, given enough time, it's bound to happen sooner or later. And when it does, does that make you a "prophet"? Of course not!

If Bob really were a prophet, that is to say, receiving information from "beyond" about the future, he wouldn't need to resort to these well-known cold reading techniques. No, he'd be making highly specific predictions about things that matter, that shift the balance of power in the world. And he wouldn't need to carpet bomb. He could pronounce them one at a time, and he could predict the timing as well. And he could nail every single major event without missed opportunities or missteps. Instead his "prophecies" have the grubby fingerprints of a hoax all over them.

But not Bob. No, Bob is a "prophet" in the same sense that a "magician" is one who works "magic." He's not breaking the laws of physics, there's nothing supernatural about it, just sleight of hand. The only difference is that a magician deceives people honestly, for entertainment purposes. Bob deceives people dishonestly, to enrich himself at other's expense. Bob has to know there's nothing supernatural about his deliberately vague and often inconsequential prognostications.

From the Ritenbaugh posting.

Dave Pack Plants Armstrong Maples To Commemorate You Know Who

We have all had fun sitting back watching the blatant idolatry that goes on in various COG's splinter groups since the Worldwide Church of God imploded.  It all started with Gerald Flurry who imitates everything he could to be like Herbert Armstrong.  From building a mini-me auditorium to traipsing in the woods of Oregon to haul back a dirty rock and he claims HWA prayer at to buying an aging mansion in England and starting another "college."

Meredith then tried to emulate HWA, at who's feet he had been trained, but has failed rather spectacularly. After failing miserably in Global Church of God, he took their money and started the Living Church of God.  Never able to afford to build a college campus with fine buildings and gardens, he has had to settle on a few rooms in an office building for his "college."

Then there is United Church of God, another sad imitator, who has split and fractured so many times that they cannot keep up to date on how many are actual members.  Its media campaigns have been disastrous.  Like Meredith, it too has a few rooms in an office building that house it's "Bible" Center.

Like Gerald Flurry, Dave Pack has built himself a little empire that is another imitation of Herbert Armstrong's visions.  Regardless of how much he lies that he was trained at HWA's feet, which he wasn't, he cannot make his dwindling cult desirous of other COG members.  After predicting tens of thousands of wayward COG members would soon be flocking to Wadsworth, he has been left sitting red faced as he is unable to build his own mini-me auditorium.  

Dave recently sold his home and has had a new one construct on the Wadsworth compound along with other "faculty" homes for the boot clicking elite.  It's all imitation and make believe.  From the streams, flower beds, building designs, to even the trees he plants

Dave recently planted some maple trees on the campus to hide the metal barn that houses tractors and grounds keeping machinery.  What better tree to plant that one that's the name "Armstrong" in it!  Employees and members in Wadsworth are mocking that decision.  But poor Dave just doesn't get it.

Everything he does is an imitation of what Herbert Armstrong did.  Dave can never compare.  It is a poor business model that was doomed to failure from the start.  Dave does not have the personality that HWA did. When HWA sent out regular bombastic letters blaming members for church problems and that they needed to send in more money, they did.  When Dave speaks people tend to ignore him.  People look at Dave as a liar.  They are leaving his church daily and money continues to be a struggle.

How long will it be till the Wadsworth compound has to be sold to developers who will build condo's?

Dave Pack Seen Whimpering In Corner After Latest AronRa Smackdown Video

John Ritenbaugh Warns Against False Prophets In COG, Lying False Prophet Bob Thiel Immediately Suffers Major Butthurt

John Ritenbaugh wrote an article in The Berean the other day discussing prophets in church history and COG folk  who set themselves up as prophets in the church even though they have no qualifications.

All of us desire to know the future so we can be prepared for it. We want to be in control of our destinies and not at the mercy of events. However, some have this desire so strongly that they set themselves up as channels through which the future is revealed. 

Such people have misled many. Deuteronomy 18, along with chapter 13, warns against such people. Whether they are called diviners, charmers, spiritists, or channelers, using methods like reading tea leaves, casting lots, or conducting séances, they are to be seriously and carefully avoided because there is no godly reality to their prognostications. Those seeking to know are being misguided, putting themselves at the mercy of lying demons, or at the very least, imaginative men and women. 

At other times, simply following a church tradition regarding a prophecy can also mislead a person. This occurs because someone in the past, sincerely believing he understood a particular prophecy, began preaching his belief, and many in his audience then believed without the resources to prove the interpretation wrong. Due to frequent repetition, it came to be accepted as truth.

Today this would apply to many in the Church of God.  Dave Pack, Bob Thiel, James Malm, Gerald Flurry, Will Dankenbring and many others.  It also applies to Ritenbaugh and his hundreds of failed prophecies. Every single one of them have a string of failed prophecies covering the ground at their feet.  Thousands are sucked into this madness and actually believe it is truthful.  Each of these fraudulent men have repeated their nonsense for so long that they actually believe themselves.

Of course the biggest false prophet the church has right now immediately suffered major butthurt. Bob Thiel says that many COG members will fail to recognize true prophets, especially when that prophet is himself.  Who is the true prophet for this age?  Who else has been double blessed and had nightmares where dark forces said he was the chosen one?

While I am not about to analyze all of John Ritenbaugh’s points, the reality is that most real Christians will NOT accept biblical criteria for prophets in this age.

Sadly, many people in the Church of God (COG) have trouble believing that God actually uses prophets or how He would use them today.

According to Thiel, all COG prophets out there right now are false, except of course for himself. They have disqualify themselves because they are liars.  Even id those properties are "at best questionable," they are still lairs.  Apparently the questionable emphasis Thiel makes on countless speculations does not enter this equation.

But first, it should be noted certain leaders of other COGs  have disqualified themselves on certain matters of prophecy, especially when they insist on matters that are wrong, or at best questionable.

Then Thiel gets to the just of his posting.  He and he alone is a true prophet!  LCG said so!

Prophet is an office and prophets are to prophesy. Although the position of groups like LCG is that it has NO prophets (which is likely the case as I stopped attending late on 12/28/12), it should be noted that its top leader had repeatedly taught in the past that God may consider Bob Thiel to be a prophet 

Thiel cannot stand the fact that 99% of COG members think and know that he is a liar.  Because of that he needs to throw out scripture point out that they are wrong:

Contrary to scripture, most end time Christians do not heed the following from the Apostle Paul:

     Despise not prophesyings. (1 Thessalonians 5:20, KJV)

     Do not despise prophecies. (1 Thessalonians 5:20, NKJV) 

Those that deny the prophet status of Thiel are lukewarm Laodiceans.  How can they not know that Thiel is the chosen one?

The fact is that Laodiceans believe that they do not have need to listen to any of God’s end time prophets (Revelation 13:14-18), even if some believe that God uses prophets.

He then lists 36 failed prophecies and false teachings of various COG groups.  Of course missing from all of that is all of Thiel's lies.

The only COG leader out there telling the truth is Thiel.  Even Herbert Armstrong would be agreeing with him, if he were still alive.

Some will come up with their preferred rational as why not to agree with the position of the Continuing Church of God (CCOG) on these matters. Yet not only are they biblical, on most of those points, the old WCG taught what I believe that the Bible teaches on them (on the few that it did not, one is consistent with a November 1979 HWA writing and on the others, a former adviser to HWA told me that HWA would have agreed with me on those as well, as one he had not investigated and some others were not issues when he was alive.

First it was double blessings, double nightmares and self-appointment, now it is the blessing of Herbert Armstrong.  Thiel's comment is quite laughable since HWA would have ripped Thiel to shreds and left him a blubbering mess after publicly rebuking him from the Auditorium stage and in all print materials.  Meredith's rebuke would be baby pablum compared to HWA's rebuke.  So once again we see Thiel lie in order to make himself look set apart and special.

Thiel continues:

It should be noted that leaders in the Living Church of God and/or the United Church of God confirmed to me personally that I was biblically correct on all the above points, despite the fact that their respective churches hold to several of the errors pointed out above. (emphasis his)

No one in the Church of God is more qualified that Thiel!  Kneel at his feet in wonder and amazement!

Wade Cox Says Tokyo Olympics Unlikely to Happen As The Tribulation Will Have Started

Just when you think the craziness that makes up the Church of God can't get any crazier, along comes Wade Cox. Good Old Wade.  The most magnificent Church of God leader since Herbert Armstrong.  God's mightiest man who has converted over half of the African continent to the truth.  The man who says the Koran is an extension of the Bible. He is such an awesome guy that Dave Pack truly trembles in his shoes at the awesomeness of Cox.

Wade feels that God has revealed his innermost secrets of the end times to him.   Even Bob Thiel with his double blessings cannot compare to the knowledge that drips from Cox's fingertips.

Below Cox lays out just how the end times will be happening, all tied into the schedule of the Olympics.  Humanity witnesses the last Olympics to ever be held when it was in Rio this summer.  The tribulation will start before the Tokyo Olympics, 2020. No more opening ceremonies.  No more parade of athletes.  No more NBC and Bob Costas.  Truly terrible times are ahead!

If your bullshit meter has not went off already, it should. When has there EVER been a Church of God leader who has ever told the truth and knew anything about eschatology?

They think they are in control but they are merely pawns of Satan and they will be destroyed over the period we will term the Last Olympiad. The Games of the 33^rd Olympiad will not be held as in 2024 the Vials of the Wrath of God will be in full force and will have commenced sometime from the end of the 32^nd Olympiad in 2020 and hopefully by Trumpets of that year. 

The Tokyo Olympics are highly unlikely to occur as the Sabbath year of 2019 will see the Witnesses deal with the world prior to the Advent of the Messiah.  We know that the Messiah will arrive to cut the rule of Satan short and his rule ends in 2027 at the Jubilee in any case. From the example of the entry to the Promised Land we deduce it can be some seven years before that year that Satan is imprisoned .

We know that the Two Witnesses will be here 1264 days before the Messiah and so we can assume that the Tokyo Olympics are unlikely as the Trumpets will reduce world travel and at the end of their time world commerce is severely disrupted.  The Empire of the Beast will last for one prophetic hour and rule from Jerusalem for 42 months over the time of the Witnesses. The world will be dealt with and driven mad by the curses of Deuteronomy 28 (and esp. 28:34). The priests of the pagan system will be incapacitated as will the leaders of this evil system and much of it will be in captivity to the Beast and the nations it chooses to rule the administration of the Ten Toes. 

No nation will be independently surviving for the Olympics under the Beast system. Tokyo will be under the Kings of the East over those last days. Thus they know that their time is short and Satan and the Demons must realise that this is the Last Olympiad of their rule. More importantly the Games of the 31^st Olympiad in Rio must also be the last of the national teams to compete in the games.  Similarly the wars of the Sixth Trumpet will have killed a third of mankind and the wars will desecrate the nations on an ongoing basis. What evidence do we have for the awareness of Satan and the demons that this is the end of their rule? The Last Olympiad

Jesus Needs Herbert Armstrong to Support Him When He Returns

It has been a while since one of the Kitchen clan have been featured here.  Sadly, they are still up to their heretical idolatry, so much so that one of them has written this little ditty.  Apparently Jesus needs Herb to support him when he returns.  No other human in history qualifies to do that, except Herbert.  He does have a "strong arm," after all.

Posted on Facebook:

A little piece I wrote about the Armstrong line, from Siward Bjourne Armstrong to Herbert W Armstrong. 
What God has started He will finish. And God's plan is moving forward through Herbert Armstrong. All things shall be restored through him, so says your Bible.(Matt. 17:11) That includes the restoration of this earth, and the entire UNIVERSE! And Satan would like you to believe what Christ has been doing and IS doing through Herbert Armstrong is not important, but the Word of God stands sure and unbreakable. The Work of God is GREAT!(John 6:29) While men tell you that Herbert Armstrong died, in order to gain disciples for their movement, in order to get you to let loose and no longer hold true to the teachings of God that Herbert Armstrong taught(from the Word of God), but to commit treason and whoredom against God to accept and lift up those who moved away from the path of righteousness. It is up to every single one of us to preserve the truth, and the history, to be the pillars we have been called to be, un-movable from the task at hand. Because God is fulfilling His plan right before our eyes. We have been called to be apart of it under Herbert Armstrong. So let's finish our part.

Armstrong
by Samuel W Kitchen 

Siward was his name
a child of royal sons 

From the family line of hen
to Scotland doors where he calls home 

In glorious array, one day, the battle rages on
Bjourn came back and he lifted, the King with his arm. 

And his heritage stays with the name of Armstrong.
Lifting up the King, and his country, securing the throne. 

In the future time that's near
Armstrong's name will be clear
UN-removed as pillars stand
Lifting up the KING OF KINGS AGAIN. 

And his heritage stays with the name of Armstrong.
Lifting up the King, and his country, securing the throne. 

May the light of truth remain.
May the light of truth remain.

Bitter COG False Prophet Still Angry at Rod Meredith's Public Humiliation of Him

It has been kind of comical watching the delusional world of a self-appointed false Church of God leader crumble around him daily.  Despite his ongoing efforts to try and prove his "god" set him apart through Gaylyn Bonjour with a "double blessing" and some nutty nightmares due to some bad Chinese food, Bob Thiel is still stung by the public humiliation he "suffered" when Rod Meredith attacked his arrogant, egotistical and narcissistic personality.

After spending many years trying to coddle up to Rod Meredith with his grandiose and poorly researched theological ideas, Thiel was shocked at Meredith's public shaming.

When a post went up here the other day about the new blog documenting Rod Meredith's Crimes, the Arroyo Grande false prophet felt that his story needed to be included in Meredith's list of "crimes."

I saw nothing at the RCM Crimes site that needed to be posted here (basically it covers three legal matters involving Roderick C. Meredith--one each related to WCG, GCG, and LCG), so am not linking to it at this time (I asked the one who informed me for his/her name and I have not yet gotten a response). Those who want to see false accusations from Dr. Meredith may wish to read the article Roderick C. Meredith's Accusatory Letter to Bob Thiel.

The false prophet wants it to be very clear that he was a strong supporter of Meredith for many years:

Before getting to that letter, some background may be helpful.  I was baptized by a Worldwide Church of God minister in 1977 and stayed with that church until 1995.  I first met Dr. Meredith at the Feast of Tabernacles in Fiji in 1989.  We met a few times after this, but he really began to remember me at the Feast of Tabernacles in Branson, Missouri in 1998, just prior to the Global Church of God (GCG) split that he suspected was coming at that time (he gave me his home telephone number then and we discussed issues that the GCG editorial department had about him and something they said when they published an article that I wrote for the old Global Church News). 

When the GCG split happened, we discussed it over the telephone and Dr. Meredith encouraged my internet support of what he was then doing via my website cogwriter.com—and I provided it.  For a very short time, cogwriter.com was from a functional perspective LCG's only website (though LCG never owned it or paid for any of it).  After the crisis subsided, the late evangelist Carl McNair had me promise to keep the site going—and it still is.

Throughout the years, I had been an unpaid adviser to Dr. Meredith on various matters.  Sometime in late 1999 (it could have been another year), Dr. Meredith made me promise, over my objections, that I had to tell him when I thought he was 'pulling punches' doctrinally.  I tried to diligently carry that out, and that, for the first most obvious example, led to a major revision of LCG's Official Statement of Fundamental Beliefs in November 2002 (the main point of which was to include more of the 18 restored truths to it).

It should be quit obvious to everyone that Thiel feels he has had a MAJOR impact on the development of the Living Church of God.  By golly, he was Meredith's PERSONAL advisor!  LCG could not be where it is today without his input.  His awesome theological knowledge was put to use in helping LCG set its doctrines.  According to sources at LCG, Thiel is full of hot air with his pompous declarations.

In the late Summer of 2005, Dr. Meredith formally asked if I would be a volunteer advisor to the 'doctrinal committee' (basically meaning an advisor on these matters to the Charlotte-based evangelists) in the areas of doctrine and prophecy.  I agreed. 

Can you imagine seasoned older men sitting round the table at a doctrinal committee meeting listening to the Arroyo Wonder pontificate and tell them how things should be!

However, there were many disturbing issues that crept up over time.  Perhaps the five biggest were: 

1) The realization that LCG would not publish corrections in its Tomorrow's World magazine or other publications when it made doctrinal errors.2) That LCG was too willing to send out literature with known errors that its leadership knew about. 3) That the leadership did not seem to keep all of its promises.4) That the falling away matter change was not condemned strongly enough. 5) The leadership did not seem to practice various portions of the Bible, such as Matthew 18:15-17, the way that it seemed that they should.

Despite all the magnificent knowledge Thiel dumped on the doctrinal committee, they largely ignored Thiel's recommendations. That started Thiel down his slippery slope to apostasy.  The committee ignored him.  Meredith ignored him. Winnail ignored him.  Richard Ames ignored him.

Then he started working with William Bowmer.  Thiel tried to set Bowmer straight on things and supposedly Bowmer agreed with Thiel, but that is largely Thiel's viewpoint in order to elevate his own standing.

Thiel's standing in the LCG was rapidly disintegrating in 2012.  Even Richard Ames turn this back on God's most important man.

On October 23, 2012, I also sent a version of my falling away paper to Richard Ames, who did not respond to it.

Then in December 2012, the ultimate hammer fell, Meredith ignore Thiel and sent him a letter pointing out the arrogance and delusions of grandeur that were occupying Thiel's mind.   Meredith's letter really pushed Thiel's buttons big time.  How could the leader of God's church IGNORE such a wise man as Thiel envisions himself!  It was shocking!  Even worse, it was humiliating to Thiel.  Thiel felt that Meredith was entirely wrong in writing the letter and arrogantly has this to say:

I will simply flat out state that he did not follow what Jesus said to do in Matthew 18:15-17, and that he seemed to be fine with that.

A comment Meredith made about Thiel really pushed this buttons:

Bob, I have personally liked you, wanted to encourage you and have tried to work with you for years. However, I have seen that you have had great difficulty in learning the lessons of deep humility that God wants all of us to learn. With very few exceptions, nearly everyone who knows you has clearly seen that—although you have a quick mind and great energy—you have nearly always thought very highly of yourself and of your own opinions.  

Sadly, it seems clear that Dr. Meredith wishes to blame me for many of the same things that Herbert Armstrong said he was guilty of. While there is little point rehashing those here, let me simply state that I do know what I personally had been thinking and I am severely disappointed that Dr. Meredith did what he did on 12/28/12.

Talk about a slap in the face!  How could Meredith dare do such a thing to  God's most important man! How dare he!

Meredith began pointing out the arrogance of Thiel.

Dr. Meredith continued with:

You have offended or at least “bugged” dozens of Church members with this very self-important, pushy and “know-it-all” attitude and approach. So if I, as a minister of Christ for over 60 years and one old enough to be your father—can help you, I would certainly like to do this. For I love you as a fellow human being and one I have known and shared a number of hours with in talking over matters related to the Bible and our entire purpose here on this earth.

Apparently Meredith had finally woke up to the very thing everyone else already knew.   Thiel WAS a pushy know-it-all, filled with arrogance, who was attempting to railroad members. Just like he still does to this very day!

Meredith had this to say:

Continuing with Dr. Meredith’s letter:

However, Bob, your own remarkable vanity and “dreams of greatness” have greatly affected your ability to think clearly many times.

Over the last few years, many of us have noted that you have begun to think of yourself in terms that are not realistic.

That sounds just like Thiel to this very day!  Extreme vanity and grandiose visions of greatness drips from every word Thiel says today.  There is NOTHING about Thiel that is real or realistic.

Meredith saw though the nightmares that Thiel was having. Bad Chinese food does not produce great dreams and Thiel was not happy with Meredith's ridicule.

Did God speak to Dr. Meredith to tell him this?  Since he did not make that claim, how does he know what I dream or my dreams are since we never discussed them? How can he be so certain in his accusations?  And why would he spread this type of accusation without speaking with me?  What did I say that was not realistic, as this never was mentioned to me before? Was it the idea that more people need to be reached to fulfill Matthew 24:14 as mentioned in the email dated 12/14/12?

It takes no slight of hand to know that Thiel's nightmares were nothing more than that.  They were not "god" inspired.  God did not speak to Thiel those nightmares.  God also did not speak through the nightmares of a woman supposedly unknown to Thiel.  Everyone knows this except Thiel.

Next Thiel accuses Meredith of being a fool because Meredith supposedly falsely accused Thiel.

The Bible warns against spreading improper accusations, for "whoever spreads slander is a fool" (Proverbs 10:18).  Certainly Dr. Meredith is aware that one who appeared to be a leader, but was rejected by God (1 Samuel 16:6-7) accused David of a type of vanity (1 Samuel 17:28)—which David essentially denied (1 Samuel 17:29).  And while I am not perfect, I do deny the type of accusations that Dr. Meredith made in this 12/28/12 letter. 

How could Rod Meredith ignore Thiel's dreams??????  Seriously!

Furthermore, while I did mention to Dr. Meredith and others in LCG about a dream from God, they never asked the details and did not know what was in it, and they were never given any hint of its content (until it was publicly released on November 8, 2013).  He and others should not be like Joseph’s brothers were when they condemned Joseph for having dreams from God (Genesis 37:5-11).  Like Joseph’s, over time, it was clear that one dream I had was coming to pass.  

Bad gas does not a dream make! Even if a woman in New Zealand has the same issue!

Additionally, a woman in New Zealand had a dream after going to bed on 12/08/12 that was later at least partially fulfilled and included matters related to me (and it is a dream I did not learn about until the Feast of Tabernacles in 2013, and after I had unknowingly helped fulfill the dream she related to me.  God sometimes works in spiritual ways and apparently just because He may not have done so as directly through Dr. Meredith, that does not mean He does not do so with others 

Seriously, is there no end to this silliness??????

Meredith continues:

Dr. Meredith continued with:

Recently, I had a meeting with Messrs. Ames, Winnail, Wakefield and my son, Jim, to discuss this paper you sent to Mr. Wakefield (and now I see you have also sent it to Messrs. Tyler and Weston). All of us in the meeting except Mr. Wakefield have gotten to know you somewhat and have heard many others express concern about your egotistical ideas that you believe you are a prophet or one of the two witnesses. I will not take the time to argue about every single point you bring up in your paper; that is not the important matter. I will just say that over and over you subtly twist, enlarge upon or exaggerate many of the things you think you heard—some of which you may have “partially heard” but enlarged upon in your own mind and received in a way that was not intended by the one doing the speaking.

There is far more to Thiel's egotistical rant that you can read on your own below.  It is both comical and rather sad that Thiel cannot see how delusional he is.  Even with Meredith's blindness to his own issues, his critic of Thiel is spot on.  Everything about Thiel is a lie.  From his nightmares to his self-appointment as a leader regardless of how much he claims Bonjour's blessing was a double blessing from God.  Its one fraudulent story after another. The sad part is lives of  sincere Africans are being destroyed because they think they are following a real pastor. They are not.

Read the entire comedy routine here: Response to a Letter from Dr. Roderick C. Meredith Dated December 28, 2012

Joel Hilliker Does Not Want Little Boys Playing With Cars When He Is Preaching

The Gestapo at the Philadelphia Church of God extends its reach further into the lives of families.  This time it concerns the period of time BEFORE, DURING and AFTER church services.  Lil'Joel Hilliker is highly offended that little boys roll little cars around on the floor while he is speaking.

Lil'Joel then drags up a letter by Richard Armstrong, who early on was proving himself to be even more legalistic than his daddy was, where he railed on bad children in church.

Emphasizing that the Sabbath commandment includes “thy son” and “thy daughter” (Exodus 20:10), Dick Armstrong wrote, “The Sabbath is holy time, sacred to God, and as such our children should not be allowed to run loose like so many wild animals. … Your children must be in Church, and they must keep the Sabbath holy the same as you do.”

That is the overarching principle we must remember when we monitor and regulate our children’s behavior before and after services. This is still holy time. Isaiah 58:13 commands that we all—including our children—refrain from doing our own pleasure to ensure the Sabbath is “holy of the Lord, honorable.”

That means no running or horseplay. The children should not be throwing things, or noisily rolling cars around, or being overly loud. Boys seem especially prone to such behavior. We must direct them toward appropriate alternatives.

At the same time, that verse in Isaiah shows that God wants the Sabbath to be a “delight” for the whole family. We must train our children to uphold the standard—while we provide suitable activities and opportunities that they will enjoy.

Little kids, bored to death by idiotic 2 hour services, MUST learn what "holy time" is.  In other words, any time a PCG minister opens its mouth, that MUST be regarded as "holy" time.   Even when it's the likes of Lil'Joel Hilliker speaking.

“Of course your children can play with the other children when services are over,” said the August 1965 Good News. “They should look forward to and enjoy the Sabbath when they see all their friends again. But this is not license to sail airplanes out of restroom windows, wrestle on the floor, or bang chairs around ….”

Our children should be quiet and orderly throughout the Sabbath. They should respect the property at services—including songbooks and other children’s toys—and have a sense of decorum befitting the occasion.

By upholding God’s standards, we are teaching them what holy means. 

After sitting there for two hours listening to Gerald Flurry slur his words and ramble aimlessly and mindlessly about, little kids, especially boys, need to let off some pent up energy.  But NO, that is not permissible!

We all want to fully enjoy fellowship with the other brethren before and after services. But we must not succumb to the temptation to turn our children loose and forget about them until it’s time to “round them up” for the trip home. The congregation is not a giant day-care staff that will look after them so we can take a break from being parents. As Proverbs 29:15 warns, “[A] child left to himself bringeth his mother to shame.”

Armstrongism has always been about shame.  There unworthy and unloved they could make members feel the more control the church had over them.

The best thing parents in the Philadelphia Church of God could do for their kids is the leave the church and find freedom!

Dingy Wade Cox Says We Are In The 30 Year Time Period Of The Two Witless Witnesses

The craziness of self-appointed COG leaders knows no end to the stupidity that comes from their mouths and pens.

Wade Cox, of the Christian Churches of God cult, claims that we are now in a 30 year period of the two witless witnesses.   30 years, instead of 3 1/2 half years.  Of course when the two witless witnesses never materialize in these 30 years, the false prophet will say God has delayed his coming because the "brethren" were not ready.  The millennium will end in 2026 instead of 1,000 years from now.  All of this is going on during the "times of the demons."   Of course we should all believe that these two witless witnesses will arise from the Coxites. They are the "true church" after all and have converted hundreds of thousands of people in Africa over to the dark side.

It is sad to think that people actually believe this absurd nonsense.

We will commence the thirty years’ countdown which will then finish off this Jubilee and finish off the 2,000 years of the forty Jubilees of the Last Days (see the paper The Last Thirty Years: the Final Struggle (No. 219)). The year 1996 was the 3,000^th anniversary of David’s entry into Jerusalem. There are all sorts of significant points that arise from 1996. It will take thirty years through to 2026 to finish off the Millennium and the times of the demons, and prepare all of the nations to put them back for the treble-harvest year prior to the Jubilee of 2027-28. 

The Two Witnesses will take up within that period. It appears quite certain that the Two Witnesses will commence their prophecy over the next thirty years. 

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The modern US view is to say they are two prophets and living on the planet today. They must be alive at the moment, given the time-frames and the requirements of the Law. In order to be prepared, they have to be over thirty years of age to commence to preach – otherwise they have broken the Law. Therefore, they have to be over thirty before they teach and it’s thirty years from 1996 to 2026, and they have to take up their ministry three years before 2026. At the very latest they will be on the planet by 2023. That means they have to be alive now and had to have been, at the very least, one year old in 1995.

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This is the end of the Times of the Gentiles. The last phase of the thirty years thus commenced in 1996/7. This period leads up to the coming of Messiah. The Witnesses are an important part of that activity.