Dave Pack Has A Feast Reminder...Opps!

When Church of God Prophets Lie

Attorney Looking for Letters from Members/Ex-members Who have Suffered at the Hands of Philadelphia Church of God

I am going into a trial against my X husband for custody of all our minor children.   They are forced to attend pcg brainwashing services every other Saturday when they have said they do not want to go. As it stands right now unless I can prove that this " church" is not in their best interest he will continue to be able to take them, and if they continue to have their minds controlled by fear-based doctrines, I could possibly lose contact with my children eventually. Children I raised basically by myself as I was to do everything but pay the bills. I homeschooled these kids, sacrificed so much of myself for my family. I can't bare to lose them all. 
Especially the ones who don't even want to go!!! For the pcg to eventually get to them is so cruel.

It is very difficult to get actual wittnnesses to come to court to tell their stories and prove this church a danger to my children. But my lawyer says anyone who wants to help can write a letter, tell their story, help prove the dangers, the evils, of this organization. Prove that they have a no contact policy and how they plan to escape to a place of safety. ANYTHING at all that you read or heard or experienced that you could help me get my children out of there would be of enormous help.

My lawyer will read your letter and if he thinks it is one he can use in our defense he will send it back to you in a form that will be turned into an affidavit. You would simply take it a lawyer to get it signed, and returned.
I will cover all costs that occur if need be.

Right now all the judge has is me saying its a cult my kids are in danger, and my x husband saying no it's not, it's a fun loving normal church.

I need the judge to see the truth.

I understand that a lot of you have been through so much pain and suffering, and this may not be what you are comfortable with, but please think of my children and how you could prevent that from happening to them by telling your story.

You can simply email it to me, and I can pass it on to him. Or email it to him directly.

His email is d.reid@littlemassonreid.com
David Reid

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If you have an email to share, please send it to me and I will pass it on, or email to the above address.
no2hwa@yahoo.com

Self-appointed COG Guru Starting Up Fireside Chats As He Prepares For Two Witless Witnesses To Be Revealed Within Next Year........Or So

Now that his alternate version of the Feast of Tabernacles is over, our Chief Pharisee and kitchen table prophet is back making more outlandish claims.  Apparently, some have told him that his speaking style is boring as hell and that he needs to stop his ridiculous long sermons.  The Chief Pharisee is now going to start "fireside chats" in order to beat his version of the law into the heads of rebellious and not so zealous COG members.

But more importantly, in his law-obsessed mind, the world and the church is so messed up that the two witless witnesses will need to come within the next year or so.  There is always that "...or so" attached to every false prophecy of COG leaders, but no matter.  It will happen.

Very soon now, highly likely in just over a year or soon after that, God will reveal his two witnesses. They will be very newsworthy and will preach the Gospel of sincere repentance and warn the nations of approaching events, which warnings will reach a very wide audience through news coverage. 

God’s two servants will inform the brethren that the time has arrived and they will act on God’s instructions to ordain a leader to take the faithful to God’s appointed place.  

Pharisee James Malm, for some reason, believes he is God's mouthpiece to the church today.  He is better than Bob Thiel, Gerald Flurry, and Dave Pack, who also believe they are God's only true spokesmen on earth today. So many prophets and so little time.

I have always said that the work of TheShiningLight is to prepare the bride for the advent of God’s two and the coming of our LORD by expounding sound doctrine, explaining prophecy, restoring forgotten things and revealing the increase of understanding promised by God in Daniel 12.

The time is nearly here to begin the next phase of our work.  After a careful study and consideration of various media like YouTube, TV and radio and the efforts of the various corporate COG organizations it is obvious that I need to take a different approach towards the goal of preparing the bride.  

I intend to eschew lengthy sermons or shallow broadcasts tailored for the general public and instead resurrect the fireside chat format to communicate, inform and encourage the brethren to godliness in an easy to understand, friendly and brotherly format with talks of about 30 minutes duration each Sabbath at TheShiningLight.  

These chats will be informative and full of sound doctrine and exhortation for the brethren, but will be more in the nature of informal, friendly, relaxed, heart to heart talks; rather than shallow public presentations, or pompous sermonizing using two hours to say what could be said in fifteen minutes.  

The Fireside Chats are intended for the brethren and those who God is calling and have an interest in profoundly biblical matters, they will not be on radio but will be featured at TheShiningLight site.  They, along with the book transcripts, will be in audio format so as to be light weight, easily downloadable and available for sharing and republishing at other sites to enhance the free spread of the Gospel of Salvation as much as possible. 

If you thought listening to Gerald Weston speak for an hour and a half was boring then just wait till you are subjected to 30 minutes of James Malm preaching from his kitchen table with a fireplace screensaver playing in the background!

Listening to a legalistic bastaardizer of the law spout useless jibberish is NOT spreading the gospel of salvation when he ignores the very being and covenant that offers it.

What is Said vs. What Is Meant

In Conclusion....................."Give me 30 more minutes."

I'll Pray For You.................."You dead wrong, buddy."

Closing Prayer....................My sneaky Sermonette 

Opening Prayer..................My sneaky Sermonette

Briefcase............................I'm a Converted Member and Don't You Forget It

Arm Around Spouse...........I'm Just the Perfect Loving Spouse. Always. 

Atonement Smiler...............I'm all that Or I Ate and Didn't Tell Nobody

Big KJV...............................My vision's Fine. I Just want you to know how much I know that I know. 

Two-Hand Lectern Grip......I'm the Pastor, don't challenge what I'm saying, You Hear Me?

No Hymnal Singer..............I don't need no hymnal, I've been singing these songs for years, 

I'm ALL that. 

Usher..................................I really don't technically "Usher" at all. I walk backwards and count. 

Anointing............................If You've Got the Flu don't Expect me to come touch you. That's what the cloth's for!

Mother's Room...................Nursin' and Spankin' 

Father's Room...................Spankin' Room

YOU Hospitality Room.......Free donuts and orange juice room and that's all I'm here for. 

C Team (sports).................You Suck At Sports Team (It's what they're really thinking, don't pretend they weren't.) 

A Team (sports).................You're OK at sports, but most likely pretty popular. OR you're a Preacher's Kid. 

Ambassador Grad.............Very Important Person who has a lot of expectations to live up to. 

Deaconess.........................Kitchen Manager who you don't mess with in the Kitchen. 

Potluck enforcer. 

Pillar In the Church............Pastor's Spy OR Rich Member OR both. 

Song Leader......................Dude who has some rhythm but most likely can't hold a tune in a bucket. 

You're Encouraged To......."You Better Be there or do this if you know what's best for you."

Questioning.......................Sign of a Rebellious Spirit

(Scripture Reading)..........."Write this in your notes, and I'm watching to see who does or does not."

Flowers Around Lectern.....Gotta be a Holy Day. 

Flowers All Over.................Gotta be the Feast.

Palm Trees.........................It's Definitely the Feast. 

Banner Behind Podium......Absolutely the Feast. 

Submitted by SHT

Feast of Tabernacles and Organic Gardening

The Church of God Chief Pharisee has gotten his legalistic tassels and knickers all in a twist over a Church of God International Feast site in Kentucky.

A quick scan of their Feast schedule has the normal sermons each day but before services and afterward, there are seminars on various topics.  The Chief Pharisee is outraged, OUTRAGED I SAY, that one of those- pre-service seminars, held on the Sabbath, was all about organic gardening.

One Feast site in Kentucky is presenting a Sabbath morning seminar on organic gardening, before the worship service.
How they justify that being a Sabbath topic…. ?!
Truly shocking! That demonstrates how far they have drifted away from God already. James

Monday, October 14, 2019 – High Sabbath

8:30 – 9:30 AM – Registration/Fellowship – Convention Center

9:30 – 10:30 AM – Adult Seminar: BLAKE SILVERSTEIN  & LINDA BENTON – New Tools To Study The Word – A free useful new App to keep you updated at the Feast and make family bible study a breeze with your phone.   – Convention Center Hall A

11:00 AM – 12:30 PM – Worship Services & Offertory – Offertory: Kevin Kenady – Speaker: John Reedy – Convention Center

12:45 – 2:30 PM – Fellowship Luncheon – for all brethren at Harbor Lights Restaurant in Lodge

2:30 – 3:30 PM – Interactive Bible Study – Panel Hosts: John Reedy, Skip Martin & Michael Deering – Convention Center

7:30 – 8:30 PM –  Adult Seminar: VIVIAN RUST: Lyme Disease The Hidden Pandemic – Convention Center – Sabbath Classroom B

Wednesday October 16th, 2019

8:30 – 9:30 AM – Registration/Fellowship – Convention Center

9:30 – 10:30 AM – Sabbath School – Convention Center & Lodge Classrooms

9:30 – 10:30 AM – Adult Seminar: BEN EISON – Transcending Fear, Anxiety & Depression – Convention Center Hall A

10:40 – 10:50 AM – Prayer Service with Prayer Team – Convention Center Lobby

11:00 AM – 12:30 PM – Worship Services  – Split Sermon: Keith Kleeschulte / John Beasley – Convention Center

Thursday October 17th, 2019

8:30 – 9:30 AM – Registration/Fellowship – Convention Center

9:30 – 10:30 AM – Sabbath School – Convention Center & Lodge Classrooms

9:30 – 10:30 AM – Adult Seminar – BEN EISON – Transcending Fear, Anxiety & Depression Part 2 – Convention Center Hall A

10:40 – 10:50 AM – Prayer Service with Prayer Team – Convention Center Lobby

11:00 AM – 12:30 PM – Worship Services  – Speaker: Bill Jacobs – Convention Center

1:00 PM – 2:00 PM – Festival Association Meeting – Snacks – Convention Center Room A

2:00 – 5:00 PM – Family Picnic/Games – KY Dam Village Pavilion Grounds

7:30 – 9:00 PM – Special Presentation: A Pattern of Evidence: Credibility of the bible followed by Interactive Discussion – Host: Blake Silverstein- Convention Center Hall 

Friday October 18th, 2019

8:30 – 9:30 AM – Registration/Fellowship – Convention Center

9:30 – 10:30 AM – Sabbath School – Convention Center & Lodge Classrooms

9:30 – 10:30 AM – Adult Seminar: CINDY NEUMULLER & MICHAEL DEERING – Spiritual Warfare In An Age Of Wickedness  – Convention Center Hall A

10:40 – 10:50 AM – Prayer Service with Prayer Team – Convention Center Lobby

11:00 AM – 12:30 PM – Worship Services  – Speaker: Skip Martin – Convention Center

2:30 – 4:00 PM – Ladies Tea & Conference – Hostess Cindy Neumuller.   Rachel Kenady will lead a discussion on  Women’s Roles in the Church – enjoy some light snacks, tea, coffee and join the discussion about service with other sisters in Christ – Convention Center

Sabbath October 19th, 2019

8:30 – 9:30 AM – Registration/Fellowship – Convention Center

9:30 – 10:30 AM – Adult Seminar: DANNY JACQUES – Back To Eden: Organic Gardening –  Center Hall A

10:40 – 10:50 AM – Prayer Service with Prayer Team – Convention Center Lobby

11:00 AM – 12:30 PM – Worship Services  – Speaker: Mardy Cobb – Convention Center

While I have absolutely zero interest in attending such meetings, it is refreshing to see that they are speaking on things that are outside the screeching done by James Malm and others demanding strict adherence to the law and no deviance from the established format that Herbert set down for Feast services. I would much rather listen to an interesting speaker on the sabbath talking about organic gardening than some belching law-keeper spitting and snarling that people are not being zealous enough.  A raw organic carrot outranks the law demands of a church crackpot prophet.

The Last Great Day

That Great Day of the Feast

In the seventh chapter of John, we read that "the Jew's feast of tabernacles was at hand."(John 7:2) In the verses that follow, we are told that Christ's family urged him to avail himself of this opportunity to reveal himself to the world. (3-4) Jesus, however, sent his family on to Jerusalem without him - planning to quietly attend after the festival had commenced. (8-10) In fact, according to John, he didn't begin making public declarations or teaching until about midway through the festival. (14) And, as he had anticipated, his comments engendered a great deal of controversy and resentment. (15-36)

Then, we read: "In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink. He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)" (John 7:37-39) How ironic is that? On this last day of the ACOG's attempt to celebrate the FOT, Jesus Christ invited ANYONE who wanted God's Holy Spirit to come to him!

The ACOG's love to quote John 6:44 "No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day." In the very next chapter, however, we have Christ issuing this invitation to everyone on the Last Great Day of the Feast! Did Christ really mean that salvation through him was open to everyone? What does that do to the exclusivity narrative promulgated by Herbert Armstrong and his successors? It appears that some folks are concerned with being first, and that Christ was thinking about salvation for EVERYONE! Hmmmmm, I seem to recall Christ having something to say about those who wanted to be first!

Lonnie Hendrix

Van Robison on "Trafficking in Man-Made Religion"

Trafficking in Man-Made Religion

There have always been those who take advantage of others for their personal ego, for the love of power and the love of free $money.   For whatever reason, many human beings have willingly submitted their lives and their pocketbooks to those who falsely assume authority unto themselves. 

Man-made religion is as old as human beings from the beginning of human history.   The assumption that religious gurus have some magical power is as old as dirt and it is always based upon fear.   Superstition has played a major role in human behavior for ages.

Is belief in "Holy" books really a superstitious belief?  We may all poke fun at and ridicule the superstitions of human beings who think rocks have spirits or that mountains have spirits, or that it is a curse of the spirits if it does not rain or a thousand other superstitious beliefs, but few see what they consider "sacred" as superstitious.    It is easy to look upon the superstitions of certain human cultures in this world as childish and juvenile, all the while thinking that what we believe is "mature" and "sensible."

Is it really sensible to submit your life to some human priest or pastor, as if they commune with God on a daily basis?   If in fact the gift of the Holy Spirit is for all individuals, then is it not sensible that every human being on earth has the potential of a direct relationship with God, without the interference of self-appointed religious rulers?   No pastor of any church on earth communes with God Almighty directly and in fact everything he or she preachers is simply personal opinion and nothing more.   Pastors have no authority, no special calling and no particular knowledge about God, that makes them over, above, and in authority over another human beings.

You may read in some verses in the New Testament that God gives authority to certain individuals and that they are to be "obeyed", but that is simply intentional deception by those who penned such words.   Did God really "inspire" some men to pen or write what is called "the Bible?"   If He did, then He is of all people a very confusing author who contradicts Himself in countless ways.   

Believing strongly in what one thinks is "truth", may be very sincere, but sincerity is no gauge or qualification of truth.   Anyone can believe deeply that their convictions are right, all the while not discerning that they may be very wrong.

Members of all Worldwide Church of God splinter groups are programmed by superstition that they are to follow and obey their church rulers, pastors or elders.   That is nothing more than religious superstition and has no basis in the truth of who God Almighty is.   Herbert W. Armstrong was and is no more, yet many still bow and worship at his grave as if he was a spokesman for God.   HWA was a spokesman for no one other than himself.   And all WCG splinter group heads who think HWA was God in the flesh are either complete con-artists or so naive and so gullible that they are juvenile in their mentality.

HWA no more spoke for Jesus Christ than the fake "apostle" Paul did, or for that matter any or all of the countless thousands of other church groups who make the pretense of representing Jesus Christ.

If it were possible and all human beings on earth suddenly and permanently stopped supporting all pastors and all churches and all 501C3 "not for profit" religious organizations, the world would change dramatically and immediately for the better.


Van Robison

Turn thou from Dave Pack

Good morning brethren. Turn with me in your Parody Hymnals, and rise, to page 76, right off of I-76, that is, to a song that is Wadsworth your time, I mean, worth your time, Turn thou from Dave Pack. Page 76. 

All together.......

Turn thou from Dave Pack, do what is good,

Seek truth pursue it earnestly.
Upon your cash are the eyes of Pack, 

His mind is closed down unto their cry.
But the Eternal's face is against

Self Centered leaders, doers of wrong.
He lets you run from the midst of them, 

Starting all over, a new rebirth.

When righteous men cry, God answers back; 

For He delivereth them from Pack.

Near unto them of a broken bank,

Not for a penny should he dost thank.

Many afflictions that Pack dost lend,

Troubles there be of shackled men;

But the Eternal delivereth

From Pack's afflictions the running man.

Turn thou Dave Pack, do what is good,

Seek truth pursue it earnestly.

God keeps the heart of the running man,

Not one of them shall broken be.

Tho Pack deceives and changes his mind,

Running from Pack such freedom you'll find;

But God redeemeth the soul that's His,

None shall be desolate trusting Him.

submitted by SHT

Philadelphia Church of God says "unprecedented bloodshed" may soon break out in the United States

One thing for sure about Armstrongism, it LOVES to scream bloodshed and destruction.  Nothing will please the church more than seeing 3/4 of humanity blotted off the face of the earth in order for them to be proved right.

With the massive corruption and endless attempts to take down the President by the Democrats, the PCG sees a civil war arising.

Attempts to remove United States President Donald Trump from office are tearing America apart. The president is closer than ever to being impeached, and prominent figures are openly discussing the possibility of “civil war.” On September 24, Speaker of the House of Representatives Nancy Pelosi announced that she was initiating a formal impeachment inquiry against President Trump. She accused the president of violating the Constitution, betraying his oath of office, and endangering national security by enlisting a foreign power to tarnish the reputation of a rival. 

Whatever the case, the 2020 U.S. presidential election is set to be extremely divisive. Bible prophecy foretells that this division will soon escalate into unprecedented bloodshed unless the nation as a whole turns to God in repentance! 

In The United States and Britain in Prophecy, the late Herbert W. Armstrong explained how modern Britain and America descended from ancient Israel. The Bible records that in the time just before Jesus Christ’s return, Israel’s sins will lead to government corruption and violent revolution.

How many decades have we heard this same screeching by COG leaders?  It has been the Germans, the Russians, the Chinese and the Muslims.  Add to that famine, disease, natural disasters, and one big old pissed off god, and things look pretty bleak for most people in the world, but especially for Americans, Britons, Canadians, and Australians.

Get your bags pack and be ready to flee to Petra, Pella or Bozrah.  Depending on which crazy Church of God leader you follow, you will be going to a special place to receive your final training, that is, if you survive the catastrophes that the COG desires to happen.

Just another day in the Church of God.

hat tip: Living Armstrongism