Did UCG Finally Admit They Have Succumbed To The Pressures Of The World Around Them?

 

After the improperly named "continuing" Church of "God" that claims to be the one true representation of 1st century Christianity, there is the United Church of God that thinks their church is God's one true church. But is it?

We have already seen the huge debacle with the Church of God a Worldwide Association breaking off due to the slow creep of Laodiceanism they saw creeping in the UCG. Then, last week in a letter to the fateful they seemed to admit the church is having problems:

The only way to survive those times as His people is to be very close to God. When the pressures of society and Satan bear down on us, it will then be too late to develop the relationship and trust in God that we must have. If we don’t actively make the right choices in our lives and ask God to strengthen us and deepen our conviction to Him now, we will fail. 

 

Unity of heart requires us to put away selfish ambitions and the desires of this world that divide us, and this must happen now. We must yield ourselves to God, let His will be done and trust His will is being fulfilled—and we bind together as His family.

Apparently, prayer and reading the Book of Deuteronomy will save their asses. Forget Galatians, Romans, and Hebrews, the law trumps all.

Brethren, I could go on and on, but I’ll leave it at this: let us all commit to real, heartfelt prayer—beginning now and continuing throughout the rest of our lives. 

 

Remember to keep up with the recommended reading of the book of Deuteronomy. Combining that reading with prayer will help us all to understand and implement God’s will in our lives. 

 

Crackpot Watchman Tooting His Horn

I just posted a story from Living Church of God with them claiming to be the Watchman. Look who got his itty-bitty feelings hurt and had to proclaim he and his little cult are the Watchman. Our Great Bwana Bob Mzungu Butt-hurt Thiel, chosen by God before the foundations of the world were laid to emerge in the perilous end times to proclaim a nutty message of salvation by works,.

The Feast of Trumpets runs until sunset October 3rd in 2024. 

 

The book of Revelation outlines God’s future use of trumpets. This message is for the entire world, and concerns events before and including the return of Jesus Christ, who will soon return to rule this earth with God’s government. 

 

We in the Continuing Church of God are working to perform as that modern-day watchman today. We boldly tell of sins of society and how world events are aligning with properly understood prophecy–which we also explain.

Yeah right. Dream on buttercup. 

Just How Many "Watchmen" Does the Church of God Need?

LCG believes their message to the world is far superior than talking much about Jesus and the salvation work accomplished. They much prefer the death and damnation route to keep people living in fear. Nuclear war, famines, children being eaten by their parents, concentration camps, WWIII and so much more keeps people that come into contact with them living in a constant state of fear. End of days porn is far more profitable and titillating.

Sadly, this is not limited to the Living Church of God. The Great Bwana Bob  Mzungu Thiel hilariously claims he is a watchman. Gerald Flurry says he is. Dave Pack thinks he is...well, on second thought, that changes hour by hour. Alton Billingsly thinks he is. UCG and COGWA think their churches are.

Does anyone care? Especially when most of these churches are corrupt to the core. Would anyone in their right mind trust these guys?

The Role of a Watchman: Many churches today feel their mission is to tell people about Jesus and hold numerous social activities. Yet, Jesus instructed His disciples to be alert and watch for events that will mark the approaching end of the age and the return of Jesus Christ (Matthew 24; Mark 13; Luke 21). The events making news today—natural disasters, increasing violence and wars around the globe, and the increasing moral, religious, and political decline of Israelite nations (2 Timothy 3:1–5; Deuteronomy 31:29)—are occurring along with the emergence of adversarial powers in Asia and the Middle East (Leviticus 26:15–17). Just as God sent prophets to warn ancient Israel and Judah of their coming punishments, the Church of God has a similar mission to function as a watchman to warn modern Israelite nations of the coming consequences of their sinful ways (Ezekiel 3:17; 33:2–7). This powerful warning must accompany the preaching of the Gospel of the coming Kingdom of God (Matthew 24:14). Let’s stay focused on this God-given mission.
Have a profitable Sabbath,
Douglas S. Winnail

LCG Lectures Members How To Dress At The Feast And Beach

Appropriate Dress for Feast Services
While Scripture teaches that God looks on the heart, dress and outward decorum are also important (Matthew 22:8–14). As we prepare to be “lights to the world” at the Feast, it’s good to review some basic principles for attire at Feast services. For men, in most western countries, coats, collared shirts, ties, and nice slacks are considered appropriate on special occasions. This may vary somewhat in tropical climates. For ladies, 1 Timothy 2:9–10 explains that dress should be “modest apparel, with propriety and moderation.” Short, tight, form-fitting dresses, necklines flaunting cleavage, bare shoulders, backless dresses, crop-tops, etc., are not appropriate for Church services. We come to services to worship God, not to display our bodies. Our challenge as Christian men and women is to come out of this world (2 Corinthians 6:17) and be lights to a world that has lost its way (Matthew 5:14–16). This is especially true as we gather to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles—picturing Christ’s glorious reign on earth! 

 

What About at the Beach?
Appropriate beach attire for women and men at the Feast of Tabernacles is swimwear that is modest and in good taste. We should be guided by the two great commandments—to love God and love neighbor (Matthew 22:37–39; Mark 12:29–31)—so as not to offend God or neighbor in our dress at the Feast. Accordingly, beachwear at the Feast for ladies should be a modest one-piece or a modest tankini (covering the mid-section), and for the men, no Speedo-type suits (unless pool facility rules require them, as is the case in some countries). Fathers and husbands have a responsibility to be leaders in their families to teach and guide regarding what is appropriate and what is not (Ezekiel 22:26).

LCG Palmetto Feast Site: Please Isolate Us From The Riff-Raff

 

As the east coast of the United States reels from the devastating impact of Hurricane Helene, the boys in Charlotte want to make sure that the general public does not mix with their site in Palmetto, FL. Apparently, part of the property is used during disasters and power outages. 

LCG has been working with the site to keep those people separated away from the glorious Gospel of the Good News of the Kingdom of God and the millennial setting picture by the Feast of Tabernacles. God forbid any unwashed heathens might happen to sit in the back during church services. That would be a shame.

Also, pray for the brethren in these areas, not so much for the rest of the population.

Hurricane Helene 

 

As Mr. Weston mentioned in his weekly video message, Mr. Ryan Dawson, Festival Site Coordinator for Palmetto, Florida, has been in contact with the site administrator concerning the incoming storm. The property is not expected to sustain any major damage or to be closed for any length of time. However, the property is an emergency shelter, and the south end of it is used when there are power outages. Mr. Dawson and our contact with the venue have discussed a plan to isolate our event from any potential traffic. We do not currently anticipate any major disruptions to the Feast site in Palmetto. 

 

Some of the local brethren in the potential path of the storm may experience a direct hit, though most are fairly far inland. However, they may be subject to flooding or wind damage. Just last year, one member's house was left uninhabitable due to hurricane Idalia. Please pray for God’s protection for the Palmetto Feast site as well as the one in Gulf Shores, Alabama, and for all the brethren in the path of the storm.

Bearing Witness to Laodiceans and the Worldwide Declaration That WCG Still Exists

 

Anyone who has been a part of the Church of God movement over the decades has witnessed or maybe even known one of the various Elijahs, Elishas, and men who self-appointed themselves as the overlords of the so-called restored truth from Herbert Armstrong and then expected us to respect their decisions. We have seen how well that has played out over the decades, especially since 1996.

Yet, here we are in 2024 and these self-appointed ne'er-do-wells continue to flap their jowls about how God has sent them on a mission to preserve the truth once restored, which was apparently lost by an impotent god who could not preserve it. Never fear though, that god has sent Bob Thiel and Samuel Kitchen to preserve that truth as they prepare to walk the streets of Jerusalem proclaiming a loud and forceful message...

Samuel has this up about his 2022 Jerusalem/Jordan Feast of Tabernacles experience.

Sometimes I run across someone writing about me or my family.

It’s hard to tell the full story, without dragging up dirty laundry on the other person. So I’ve refrained from writing about it.

When I went to Jerusalem in 2022, I was originally going alone.

Satan was really attacking that time, and what kept coming to my mind was, even Christ had to escape to solitude to continue on in life. He used that time to draw close to God the Father.

So I was going to use that time to draw close to God.

What ended up being, was the announcement of the Worldwide Church of God existing and assembling to keep the Holy Days of the Lord. It was a worldwide declaration.

I had let my brother choose where we were all staying in Jerusalem. We found out we were scammed(it wasn’t my brothers fault)but Christ did intervene on our behalf and we ended up in Petra, Jordan keeping all the Fall Feast days.

It was made apparently clear, God had placed His name THERE in Wadi Mussa, as we ended up there without foreknowledge.

So that was exciting news for us. Not only was we allowed to declare to the world from Jerusalem we, the Worldwide Church of God, still existed and were still assembling, we also felt Christ revealed what “her place” meant in Revelation 12:14 with this trip.

We were filled with bewilderment!

We never would have thought we would end up in Jerusalem and then Jordan! So briefly we thought on what our attitudes should be! We left our homes thinking on Gods Word, where it says “remember lot’s wife”.

We didn’t want to “look back”.

Trouble begins in paradise, a woman enters the picture: 

Now as we ended up in Jordan, we were still in contact with loved ones back home. We told them the possibility of us not returning home.

So my brother became excited because his estranged wife and their children, decided they were coming to Jordan! I was seeing woman at the time, and she flew out to Jordan as well!

But now, things turned from “the church” and “her place”, to family problems.

Tim, my brother, needed to be the head of his household again. He had been separated from his wife for several years prior. But he had no money to provide for them and take care of them in Jordan. Our group ended up taking care of them, even after protesting. We didn’t have enough for everyone, and when they showed up with no money, we protested.

This was not an unfamiliar problem, as when my brother initially got married, they showed up at our home with no money and no means to provide for themselves. Even my brother had to admit God seemed to shut all the doors for him to provide for her and her children! She eventually had to run back to her parents and go elsewhere for the privisions. Now my brother worked very hard and is working hard to provide for his family. He wasn’t lazy. He was seeking to do good. God just intervened on certain things, because he knew all hearts.

In Jordan, my brother simply had no ability to provide for the addition of his returning family, and so he leaned on church assistance for it, which we did give at our own peril and loss.

His wife placed him in that position. I don’t look down on my brother for him wanting his family together again.

He would have given if he had it to give.

But with us not being able to help THEM,

He chose to stick with them, as they had to go elsewhere for assistance.

That’s what problem we faced in Jordan.

He stayed with his family. I stayed with the brethren.

Now afterwards, he did take the YouTube and social media away from me. That was wrong of him. He, finding himself in the new role of “head of family”, which was handed back to him by his wife, began to encroach all areas he was included in with the work online.

And since I discerned a wrong spirit with his wife, I was at odds with him too, because he felt wronged by me. It was his wife, I was saying who had a wrong spirit.

So he felt I was attacking his “headship” of his family, and therefore was attacking the God ordained family government.

So he felt, it was his duty, to remove me from my own YouTube channels and social media over this problem.

Later he found out his wife, in her private messages online, went to Jordan to “pull” him away from me because I had too much influence with him.

She went there to divide brothers.

And after looking at things, and praying about it, we had a lot of growing up to do after mom and dad died. Lots of socialization needed to happen.

I don’t have any hard feelings against my brother. I don’t think he necessarily did wrong. With exception of usurping me on the channels and social media. My dad placed me in charge of those things and not him.

As soon as he did that, however wrong it may have or not have been, I continued on with new social media and new YouTube channels, doing what I was led of Christ to do, which set up a scenario of someone going after them, shutting me down using a new trademark.

As soon as my brother and I started to talk again, our little brother was working on being healthy and to my excitement was becoming more and more interested with God’s truth and work! Well in his quest to be more health, he started to supplement testosterone. Which made him extremely aggressive. He didn’t seem to be thinking right and clearly, and being “a babe in Christ” he didn’t know enough spiritually to defend against the Devil and his demons. So a wrong attitude developed.

Bad attitudes. The church seemed to be filled with them, or that is the excuse that was convenient to use. 

He ran to my brother with this attitude, and I was “executed” swiftly, without question, and once again my brother took the YouTube channels and social media away.

That hasn’t stopped me from working where I have been placed by God. But it’s clearly Satan trying to DESTROY us brothers, and doesn’t want us working together.

I’ll hope, my brothers can forgive me. I forgive them. We all have done wrong or have given the appearance of wrong. Satan capitalized on it. But the work of God isn’t destroyed thankfully.

I think Christ needed to establish whom He is using.

Mr Armstrong is Christ’s apostle.

Through him, Matthew 24:14 was fulfilled “as a witness to all nations”.

The Worldwide Church of God, was raised up through such preaching, and gave a second witness by living and putting into action the way of God which was preached by the apostle!

The publishing stage for this Church ended roughly around 1986. That’s when the organization was taken off the track and used for other purposes by non believers.

The internet stage was raised up simply to preserve such publishing for future engagement.

As we address the departures from Jesus Christ, and the dangers set against the Church, we have a true witness to show how it’s meant to be, Jesus Christ is there leading the Church.

But in warning, I do give my own testimony and witness, in observing the departures in order to raise alarm!

People ask, how do you know this isn’t Jesus Christ? I point back to the witness work done through Herbert W Armstrong and point back to the Head of this Church, back to Jesus Christ leading this Church! So the mouth of two witnesses the thing is establish. My voice alone is worthless. And without someone raising the alarm and seeing the departure, and bringing forth the true witness work, that witness work is locked into 1986- and prior!

So my family has been bringing forth the true witness which was done through Herbert W Armstrong and the church, and raising the alarm with our own witness and testimony!

Now, what happens to the “archives” if the beast system shuts down the internet? It cuts off our ability to bring forward the true witness! We can no longer direct people to the preaching of Herbert Armstrong, and the church, if we can no longer access those archives!

So what would be needed? Assembly at Jerusalem, for now there requires TWO WITNESSES.

This is also about the freedom to assemble as the Worldwide Church of God!

Those of the Body of Christ, the Worldwide Church of God, will go into a place of safety. “Her place”(Rev. 12:14)

No one can stop that assembly.

But right now, the warning to the Laodiceans, is going out through our work. We have been warning of departures, of becoming a “separated church” and from joining “other churches”. We are admonishing brethren and ministry to come back and return and reassemble as the Worldwide Church of God. And boy have we seen opposition!!!!!!!!

I think that opposition will continue until the place of safety. Then the world will know!

Our job with preserving the archives, is not to hold possession of the archives, but to ensure their preservation and to stir up engagement!

In fear of us holding possession, others have fought much harder, and with more money we could ever provide, to keep us from possessing all of the archives. In that attempt, they have made it possible for more people to engage with those archives, and to expand our reach with the warning.

So I feel everything my brothers and I, my family etc, have gone through has been for the good of God’s Church. For the preservation of the witness work, and engagement people have with it.

 

All of you rebellious Laodicean heathens need to repent and return to the one true Worldwide Church of God! 

NOW! 

Get your lamps trimmed, your Petra bags packed, and all of your money ready for that final push and be ready to buy your plane tickets to Jordan where I have been assured by the Jordanian government that they will welcome tens of thousands of COG members flying in from all over the world to take over their prime tourist destination.

Be warned though. The Great Bwana Bob Thiel has laid dibs on the Petra Marriot Presidential Suite for his place of lodging. While you suffer in heat and cold in some dank pissed filled cave, the Great Bwana, the first Witless Witness,  and the Second Witless Witness Samuel will be living in luxury. God is great!

Dave Pack: I am going to prophesy to 100 billion people!

Dave Pack. Personally sent by Jesus to prophesy to 100 billion people.

If we thought Bob Thiel's idiotic proclamations were absurd wait till you hear this from Dave Pack. He continues down his dark spiral of complete lunacy.

News Article: "END OF DAYS I was a black child in white supremacy cult & dubbed a witch…"

The £60m doomsday scam

"JERALD Walker knew he was different from his mates - because they told him it was weird that he was not allowed to celebrate his birthday or Christmas.

But what his friends and neighbours didn't know is that he was part of a white supremacist doomsday cult.

And what's even stranger is Jerald is black.

His blind parents had been convinced that TV evangelist Herbert W. Armstrong was the new Messiah and that he was going to save them.

They were not alone.

At its height in the 1970s the Worldwide Church of God had over 100,000 members and was pulling in over £60 million in donations from followers.

Armstrong convinced his followers that going to a hospital was a sin, that they shouldn’t listen to pop music and that black people should serve white ones.

According to his teachings, even heaven would be racially segregated.

But when judgement day came the chosen ones, no matter their race, would be taken to a “safe place” where they would be protected from drought, burning skies and pestilence."

"Jerald, 60, went back to college and is now a professor and author, whose latest book is titled Magically Black And Other Essays.

But the terrible damage the church, which has now changed its name and beliefs, did to thousands of members remains.

Jerald, who also wrote The World in Flames: A Black Boyhood in a White Supremacist Doomsday Cult, blames the cult for the death of his older brother Tim. 

Speaking to The Sun, he reveals: “People are still really struggling with the aftermath of being part of this cult as I am myself. 

“It was hard to write about. I hated reliving that past. 

“You find you are that eight-year-old again crying at midnight because you are terrified of the thunder storm that you think may in fact be the skies burning and Christ returning.”"

Read the entire article here: The Sun: U.S.

END OF DAYS: I was a black child in white supremacy cult & dubbed a witch…I spiralled into drugs when £60m doomsday scam was exposed

Apostate Sisters Interview Dawna On How The Church Protected Predators And How She Reclaimed Her Life

 

Life Reclaiming After Cult Survival: Dawna's Harrowing Journey - In this powerful and emotional episode, we sit down with Dawna, a survivor who endured unimaginable hardships within the Worldwide Church of God (WCG). From her childhood being stolen by manipulative cult tactics to fleeing for her life from an abusive partner, Dawna's story is one of resilience and strength. She was even pushed to the brink, planning to kill her own mother to save her from a doomsday that never came. 

Dawna opens up about how the church protected the very predators who groomed and harmed her, leaving her vulnerable to further abuse. But despite these horrors, she has reclaimed her life with incredible courage. This episode shines a light on the most hidden parts of cult survival and the incredible strength it takes to rebuild a life afterward. 

🔍 Key Points: 

• The manipulation tactics that left Dawna vulnerable to abuse. 
• How the WCG protected criminals while ignoring victims. 
• Dawna's journey of reclaiming her life after fleeing for her survival. 
• Join us for this intense and inspiring conversation that underscores the resilience of those who survive cult abuse.

CGI: Should the Church Remain Neutral Or Wallow In Politics?

CGI Can’t Decide About Whether or Not to Allow Politics in Church!

Lonnie Hendrix

The leadership of the Church of God International continues to try to straddle the fence on whether pastors and members should be involved in secular politics. Folks like Jeff Reed, Mike James, and Vance Stinson argue in favor of neutrality - while folks like Bill Watson, Adrian Davis, and Murray Palmatier see absolutely nothing wrong with their partisanship. Indeed, in spite of severe criticism, the politicians continue to be loud and proud about their foray into that realm. In reality, although most of the membership of CGI is very conservative and very Republican, the membership remains very divided on the issue of political involvement on a corporate level. Moreover, neither side appears to be satisfied with the leadership’s wishy-washy “neutrality.” In other words, it feels awfully lukewarm within CGI these days!

Although the Church of God International’s leadership has apparently decided to mothball  their Armor of God program and have removed Bill Watson from their payroll, in the latest edition of their Prove All Things: Politics and Voting webcast (Reed and James) interviewed ACOG member and proud Montana Republican, Bill Lussenheide. For those of you who may be unfamiliar with Mr. Lussenheide, he is completely comfortable with his role as a partisan officeholder and supports the Republican Party’s platform in his state “one hundred percent!” In other words, he feels absolutely no conflict between the religion he professes and fully participating in partisan politics! Indeed, just like Ohio Bill, this Montana Bill believes that he is defending his faith and proclaiming the Gospel through his participation in the political process.

Speaking of that other Bill, Mr. Watson recently defended his own messaging on politics on his News Alert Blog on CGI Medina, Ohio’s website. Bill wrote: “I recently read an article by Caroline Woods (from The Blaze) that was rather interesting, especially since I have been accused of being ‘political’ more times than I can count. There are people today that think the pulpit should be exclusively reserved to address the Bible and only the Bible. They claim, to use the pulpit to address social issues, underscored by the Bible, is wrong and is out of order. That those pastors, should simply remain on point and only speak on Christian Living––stay away from social issues!” He went on to point out that pastors have addressed current events throughout the history of the United States (the old they did it before me excuse). Mr. Watson continued: “Keep in mind, those who shrink back in ‘cowardice’ from addressing the issues of our day forget; it’s not the Church that has become political, but rather, politics has become more excessive in violating our religion and God’s Church needs to stand firm and show our people their sins (Isa 58:1).” Watson clearly believes himself to be courageous and right, and that he consequently can’t be wrong in what he is doing!

If that doesn’t sound like circular reasoning to you, it should! In a recent post on my own blog The Allure of Politics for Christians, I pointed out that “In their desire to promote righteousness and God's will, Christians have too often found themselves drawn into the political systems of this world. Unfortunately, instead of influencing things in a better direction, the Christian often finds him/herself participating in a process which interrupts his/her focus on God, distorts the distinction between good and evil and causes him/her to compromise with the dictates of his/her faith and conscience. One candidate or policy seems to be the right one at the time we are considering the alternatives, but we often learn later that our choice(s) produced unintended negative consequences. In other words, in our attempt to avert an evil outcome, we often set the stage for an even worse future than the one we were trying to avoid!”

Next, I proceeded to point out many of the Biblical warnings against participating in the affairs of this world and to avoid being drawn into idolatry of the state. I also pointed out that Christ NEVER challenged or criticized Rome or its representatives in Judea, that he reserved his harshest rhetoric for the Jewish religious leaders of his day. Finally, I concluded with some advice that I think folks within CGI’s leadership would do well to heed: “Unfortunately, we Christians sometimes forget that we are strangers and pilgrims on this earth, and that our primary citizenship resides in heaven (Hebrews 11:13-16). Our salvation, spiritual and physical, is found in God's plan. In short, the political systems which humankind has devised are flawed, and they will fail someday. We must not forget that our faith and hope is found in God, and him alone! (Psalm 118:8)” While there is certainly nothing wrong with setting a good example and helping others in the here and now, it is NOT our commission or responsibility as Christians to fix the flawed political systems of this world!

Dave Pack: The Ungrateful Jerk Mocks A Man's Generosity

 

 

Imagine being such an ungrateful jerk that you would smear a man's reputation in church, in front of family and friends just to force members to hand over their money before they die.

Dave talks about a man who gave a huge sum of money to the RCG, but held on to it while still alive only paying his tithes. He failed to turn it over to Dave as "common" and held on to it till he died.

He gets no credit whatsoever for doing that, but at least he gave it to us instead of his fmaily.

Dave Pack Guilt Tripping Members By Telling Them He Had No Money To Cut His Hair When His Chldren Were Little

Dave Pack's Office Beer

Always the Martyr

Why is it that so many COG ministers and elders have to always be martyrs for the truth as they abuse and threaten members?