One of the vilest teachings of the church that was brutally enforced over the decades was the "divorce and remarriage" doctrine/teaching. Countless stories have been told over the decades of loving couples and families ripped to pieces by the Church of God's vile stance. Most had probably thought those days were long gone, but it is not.
This letter was posted on Exit and Support and describes the vile and unChristian teachings of Jon Brisby:
I wanted to write and thank you for helping people who have left or will leave the "Armstrong cult groups." I was born into the WWCG. It helped to destroy my whole family--my parents, my siblings, and up until this year, even me. We all made some mistakes and bad choices on our own but Herbert Armstrong and his ministers, splinters, and even some members, helped destroy my family emotionally, just with the judgmental attitudes, being made to feel we were in "hot water" with God, telling us that outsiders were of the world, etc. My most recent minister Jon W. Brisby (Church of God, the Eternal) has even told me that my lack of financial comfort is the result of my "not living in a pleasing enough way for God." I was also told that my family is the "church" now and no longer my kids, since they are not members. Luckily, my kids grew up against the Armstrong teachings and have their own beliefs. As for me, I am finally what I consider to be "out of the dark" of these Armstrong worshippers. I emailed my minister two weeks ago and explained my decision to leave. He has yet to respond.
Church of God, The Eternal (COGE) is a small group. The lead minister is Jon W. Brisby (age 55). He has some wild ideas. A married couple came to the group from LCG a few years ago. They had been married for about 18 years. Brisby soon found out that the man had been married briefly to someone else when he was a really young man. They divorced and his ex married someone else. Anyway, this married couple of 18 plus years were instructed to split up and live separately but not get divorced. Jon Brisby told him that if his ex wife happens to die then and only then can he and his current wife live as a couple again. The couple have remodeled their home and made it into a duplex. They each live in one of the side by side units. They are allowed to go back and forth to each other's apartment for meal times but not allowed to sleep, shower or linger at each other's place. At the Feast of Tabernacles and Pentecost they were not permitted to sit together for services. This couple is in their 50's also.
There is another man, a single man around age 60. This man was also married but years ago his wife left him and married a Seventh Day Adventist. Brisby told him he must never remarry. This man said God would not allow him to marry unless his ex died. Brisby stays in total control of the dating and marriage relationships in the group. He comes off as very intensely and genuinely kind, but if he feels you cross him, then he gets an attitude and can be very arrogant.
--Kandice Cunning (Child survivor of WCG; Former member of COGE)Church of God, the Eternal has on its page the following which is used as a weapon to stop members from writing such things as was done above. They seek to create the myth that all of the things they teach are directly from Christ, passed down through the apostles to Bisby and others today. To deny what they teach is blasphemy and denial of the truth which separates the "rebellious" from God.
What God gave to Moses, He gave to Christ. What Christ taught to the apostles, He commissioned them to proclaim in their designated areas. What Christ and the apostles taught was the same as was revealed to Paul. And what all those servants taught is exactly what was given to an end-time servant (Matthew 28:19–20). For those who will hear, our purpose is to honor and proclaim that same way of life—the faith once delivered. In that way is found no part of the way given to Gentiles—people of the world (Deuteronomy 12:1–3; 4:1–40, Acts 14:16). We want the ways of God. We are not interested in any of the traditions or customs of this world. God’s servant of these last days at no time made the pagan customs of this world a part of the doctrine. The spirit which introduces change, and/or a relaxation of the doctrine is as much at work today as it was in the past. The called of God must be on guard incessantly. That spirit is a deceiver. He will do anything to destroy.
One concluding observation seems to be necessary. Those who believed and loved the Truth of God have remained strong, loyal, and faithful. On the other hand, it seems that everyone who was “argued” into acceptance of the “faith once delivered” has failed ultimately. It, indeed, seems like God is separating those who believe and love the Truth from those who must surely have accepted only on the basis of their own personal intellectual prowess.
Satan and his demons hate the ways of God. They will do anything to disrupt, challenge, and destroy. Such behavior is a manifestation of who and what the true people of God are all about. They persecuted Christ. In like manner they will do the same thing to those in whom Christ lives. The faithful of God will count it a privilege to suffer for the cause of righteousness. They will be persecuted and lied about with abandon, but these chosen children of God will know who they are. They love the Truth and will for no cause allow themselves to turn from it. They are the ones who will endure to the end.
Who are we? We are estranged members—a remnant (Romans 9:27–33; 11:1–5, Isaiah 1:8–9, Revelation 12:13–17)—from the apostate body (2 Thessalonians 2:1–3) who sincerely love God’s revealed Truth from the heart (2 Thessalonians 2:10), willing to remain faithful to the end (Matthew 24:13). That Truth which was taught by Christ (John 14:6; 12:48–50), that Truth which Christ commissioned the Twelve Apostles to teach (Matthew 28:20). Which was the same message taught by the Apostle Paul (Galatians 1:6–16, 1 Thessalonians 2:12–14). Which was the same message taught by an end-time servant (Matthew 28:19–20). Which had significant beginning with Moses (Hebrews 4:1–3). The Truth which is now obeyed from a spiritual premise (2 Corinthians 3:1–11).
These are the people that God’s true ministry desires to serve. It is our purpose to give you our energy and our love. Letter from Raymond Cole
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I would like to request a book called WHY WE LEFT THE WORLD WIDE CHURCH OF GOD ORGANIZATION from the Church Office. Office seems not willing to allow me to have this re print .
Why is this not on the website at https://www.cogeternal.org/articles/
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Anonymous October 16, 2020 at 3:37 AM. I can help you out. The literature you refer to is not a book but an article written in 1976-77. It can be found at this website. www.afaithfulservant.com
Let me fill you in on the factual history surrounding this article. It was written with the intent to give the brethren a means by which to navigate the troubled waters they had currently found themselves in just having left WWCG just a short 1-2 years prior in 75. This article along with approx 5 others served as a way for members to navigate any problems they may run into in the future concerning the church. In short it was a safeguard measure put into place by Raymond Cole and his co-minister Bryce Clark so that there would be written material to serve as checks and balances on the ministry and other factors. This is stated so by Raymond in a 1977 monthly letter.
The article you ask for was written in part by his co-worker Bryce Clark. It was removed along with some of the other articles in the June 2001 announcement letter written by Jon Brisby the current pastor. Jon Brisby to this very day has loudly proclaimed Bryce to be an apostate minister and has railed against him ad nauseum. This is why he said the material must be removed. In lies the hypocrisy because they have articles currently on their website that are written by Bryce on much easier going topics. You see having to leave a church because of corruption is a hotbed topic that these articles would serve to help brethren make Biblically calculated decisions in a time of church upheaval. I.E why Jon also did a monthly letter absolutely destroying the teaching of the Bereans. See where this is going? All eyes on him as the sole authority. I guess one has to do this in order to continue to pull the shenanigans he has for going on 19 years now.
Mr. Cole never intended for these letters to go away. Jon claims he did at the time, but keep in mind Mr. Cole was already ailing from health issues at the time. Strokes etc... Brisby took advantage of his weakness in order to start the beginning of a restructure process. It was just after Raymond died before that FOT that Brisby dissasembled the board, the last remaining check and balance left, that is aside from God. I have this very board meeting tape, that is how I know.
Since this time, he has been systematically dismantling bits and pieces of teaching. The latest would be his upside down sideways re-assembly of the Faith Once Delivered. Meant to be confusing to the brethren so that no one would ever dare question something he taught again. Ask yourself, who is the author of confusion? Anyways, there are so many details over the years with his deception and corruption of teaching one could write a book.
Thank you appreciate the Truth.
Jon Brisby has been CAUGHT WITH HIS PANTS DOWN. His apostate. Muddled formulas' Don't Hold Water with God . Don't allow Him to muddled up your Minds. Our Brothers in Switzerland,The Philippines, Kenya, Australia, know nothing what really occurred. May God reveal the hidden things. Church of God the Eternal has not acted wisely, and all their flock will be scattered .
Brisby is the true Big Boss of the little pebbles. I can recall he named Mario Y. Roque as one of his Minions.
Your very welcome.
Our Photos were rejected in Church photo Album Under Jon. He views us as his Minions. Don't call us Minions Just because we are born small Filipino we not Minions.
We are no more gentiles the same as Brisby. He has become gentile a non Brother to us.
We the Minions request an apology.
Those Holy Grail Minions don't sound too happy. Minions love bananas a whole bunch no wonder those monkeys eat too much rice.
spit roast his Willy
This is a dead church. They do not preach the gospel to the world, they teach a doctrine that has very little to do with the Bible and more designed to control the small number of people willing to hang around. They have been taught to follow a man rather than Jesus. They have been taught to disregard scripture and listen soley to the words of a man
Mindanao, Member 2020
In Torah, God forbids His people from eating certain classes of animals as food, calling them unclean why are people eating Spit Roast Pork? Here Mindanao some few do eat Pork. Don our Pastor just turns a blind eye. “lukewarm” In Applying the Laws of God. Our Church is not the Christian City is should be.
Huwag magkaroon ng awtoridad kung ano ang gusto nating kainin. Walang tatanggihan kapag tinanggap mo ito nang may pasasalamat. Huwag lamang lumingon sa isang bulag na mata dahil alam niya ang mga Banal na Kasulatan.
What brethren can do is to ask him not to speak anymore .
Jon has Jesus working Within his body. I know satan hates us and we shall drive him out in our Church.
Mark 16:17-18
Living Bible
17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
October 17, 2020 at 9:38 PM
Please know and Understand we don't use Torah Only. Jesus gave us New Revelation via Jesus Christ. Moses and Jesus were both born during times when God's people were being oppressed. . Both Moses and Jesus had a supernatural moment in which God prepared them to go forth. We need to wait for our Pastors supernatural moment. Both Moses and Jesus came to save their many people and were rejected by all of those very people. The Israelites grumbled against Moses in the wilderness just like this pages. All the disciples fled when Jesus was arrested before the crucifixion . Today when our Pastor is killed we will go into a safety place. God will show us were to hide and go into chambers or desert. Are we ready?
Willy Wash.
We left Church of God The Eternal
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Matthew 24:26 26" So if anyone tells you, 'There he is, out in the wilderness,' do not go out; or, 'Here he is, in the inner rooms,' do not believe it.
Don't GO. Do not believe it . HE Jesus is not on this earth !
Let’s get the record straight. I have never heard Jon proclaim he is Jesus. Are we that stupid. Definitely not I hope. Him and his wife are absolutely adorable loving kind and open hearted. When you speak against the anointed of the Lord your against God himself.
On the grapevine evidently a small group in Australia departed in 2018. Those long-time advocates had become Rebellious. Please keep us posted here with information concerning the Australian congregation. To be continued - Developing Story
Willy Wash
October 19, 2020 at 7:48 PM
So those Australians become arrogant, stiff-necked, and self-promoting like the rebellion of Korah? Or Maybe those Kangaroos Just jump the fence. One or the other.Guess We'll Never Know" ?
Yes there were some in the Australia group that were not happy with Jon over perverted teaching. They were not being rebellious, just doing what the Word of God indicates to do when error is present.
So now Jon has the Kenyan, phillipines, and the Australian brethren at odds because of his deception, lies, and false teaching. What of Switzerland? If all that's going to be left are a handful in Eugene, OR and TN, they are going to have to start letting office staff go with very few tithe payers left.
Switzerland brethren are very gullible. Those don't know or Understand the True History of the Eugene, OR congregation. Those In Switzerland need to establish the facts.
The CGE wagon lost momentum . Very Clear backsliding . Many can hear errors. Jon Once said in his sermon are we sure we would be able to recognized Jesus if he was here. He said we would not be able to recognize him. This is not True.
October 22, 2020 at 7:17 PM
I know your right!
If you the called of God. YOU can and should recognized him The breaking of bread" (Luke 24:30), "their eyes were opened" and they recognized him (Luke 24:31 When Jesus suddenly appeared in the midst of all his disciples, they didn't have any problem recognizing him-Peace be unto you," were the first words Jesus spoke . Those called of God Must follow The Once Delivered Faith.
Our Church is God’s holy temple. We are the only ones that know truth. I don’t understand why anyone would leave . God backs our Pastor with power and authority. He can do all that Christ reveals him . I believe Mr.Brisby only. All those that separate are not of us. God will place them into the tribulation. Hopefully those repent soon. Doctrine disagreements should be not tolerated.
Tithing Funds are declining. Not sure how this will keep the church’s lights on. Galatians 3:5 are miracles by law?
Church of God The Eternal - Tangled Web come out of her my people
Let us hear what the New Testament says about being under the Old Testament Law:
Matthew 11:13 law prophesied till John,
Luke 16:16 law and prophets until John then gospel of the kingdom,
Matthew 22:37 Love God with all your heart with all your soul etc-love your neighbor-these two ARE the whole law and prophets,
John 1:17 law through Moses Grace and truth through Jesus,
John 7:23 circumcision a must to keep the law,
Acts 13:39 not justified by law,
Acts 15:5-20 observe law? Saved through faith,
Acts 18:13 these men want us to worship contrary to the law,
Acts 21:21 you teach to forsake Moses,
Romans 3:19 want the law says it says to those who are under the law, Romans 3:21 apart from the law is righteousness manifested,
Romans 3:27 the law of faith,
Romans 3:28 saved by faith apart from the law,
Romans 4:1-16 faith not law,
Romans 6:14 we are not under the law but under Grace,
Romans 7:4 we are dead to the law,
Romans 7:6 we are released from the law,
Romans 8:3-4 the law is fulfilled,
Romans 10:4 Christ is the end of the law,
Romans 13:8, 10 love fulfills the law,
1st Corinthians 9:20 not being under the law,
Galatians 2:16 we are not justified by the law,
Galatians 2:21 if righteousness is through the law Christ died in vain, Galatians 3:2 does the spirit comes by the law or faith,
Galatians 3:5 are miracles by law?,
Galatians 3:10 if you're under the law your under a curse,
Galatians 3:11 were not justified by law,
Galatians 3:13 we are redeemed from a curse,
Galatians 3:17-29 not by law but by faith we are linked to Abraham's blessings,
Galatians 5:3-4 we are severed from Christ if we keep the law,
Galatians 5:14 law fulfilled by love,
Galatians 5:18 we are led by the spirit thus not under the law,
Galatians 6:2 law of Christ,
Philippines 3:9 we are made right by faith not by law,
1st Timothy 1:9 law is not for righteous,
Hebrew 7:12 priesthood has changed and is necessary to change the law,
Hebrew 7:28 after the law comes the son,
Hebrew 8:6 we're under a better covenant,
Hebrew's 8:7 after the first; there is the second,
Hebrew's 8:13 the 1st has become obsolete and is ready to disappear,
Hebrews 9-10 describes the first being the law and the second being faith
Rev. 3:15 "I know thy works."
If God backs Jon powerfully as you say, then his little group should have grown exponentially by now. It has not, and never has. God did back the Apostles with authority however, and the result was that the Church did grow. See the problem? When Jon started teaching error mixed with truth years ago, that organization began to die. That's what happens when God is barely present. Look at the 7 churches in Revelations.
Christ is working directly through Brisby as he prepares the church to enter the Kingdom of God. Our salvation is assured because of Jon. Because he is God's mouthpiece on earth it is our duty to follow his teachings and submit to him. God specifically sent Christ to this church to warn the world and the households of the Church of God who have followed wayward men into useless splinter groups. They do nothing to promote the truth anymore. Only Jon does that because Christ dwells in him.
Rubbish. Obviously you do not believe what you wrote because if you did you could not believe in the Word of God and what it has to say about such men. My suggestion; go back to the drawing board.
The drawing board would show us to trust the government of God. We knew Jon was the only human God could work with. His our Joshua and he could be yours too . Humble yourself and submit like a wife would his own Husband. The wife or church must obey those that rule over them. God will not accept anything less. Husband’s get your wife in order for services soon. Finger food isn’t approved on sabbaths. Cooking and baking before sundown is definitely commanded. Prepare for Jesus let his table be filled with feast for kings. His Lord of Sabbath remember that folks.
I’m Confused about what to do , Are you too?
I was somewhat confused when I left COGTE, probably better put, distraught. This is a common feeling for everyone. We are told many times in the Bible not stick around a place that is or has been teaching error. It becomes a different doctrine even if it seems slight and over time will corrupt us. This is why we are told to depart. This is the distraught part. God will help you through it, our commitment has to be that we will stick with what we originally excepted at baptism and He will honor his part. The ministry makes it confusing because the Bible makes it simple. What ministry wants to lose tithe payers or have it look like their numbers have dropped significantly? They don't. But they do want to continue to preach error mixed with truth. Forget about calling them on the error, you will find yourself booted quicker than you can blink an eye, not to mention having all of your friends stripped away from you by that ministry. The best thing to do is become convicted, leave quietly, and seek God for answers. I think you will come to find you learn more about your God and the Bible than you did all the years prior. I did.
Deut 3 I put before you life and death, blessings and curses. CHOOSE LIFE!
What is the greatest commandments? What is the most important?:
Love God (meaning, be loyal to God), no idolatry. CGE idolatry doctrines were changed, producing confusion and badly disturbing the doctrinal foundation.
Love your neighbor: Love is a verb, do the living thing.
Israelites were commanded to observe Holy Days. But is that a greater or more important commandment than "do not murder"? No. How should CGE members respond to COVID 19? Choose life, do the loving thing for others, don't gather in large groups and put your mask on.
why our pastor hates masks?
Brethren, let us go back all the way to the beginning and remember what we heard in the gospel. Stand firm and to hold fast to the doctrine.
Who are the Board of Directors in Church of God' The Eternal? Cole had and so does Jon Brisby?
Raymond Cole had a Board of Directors up until his death in 2001. At that years Feast of Tabernacles after Raymond had passed, Jon claimed to the board in a recorded meeting between East and West Coast Board members, that it was Raymonds wish to abolish the board. With Raymond no longer living, who was around to confirm that assertion? No one. Thankfully this is all recorded on audio. As from 2001 to 2010 there was no Board of Directors under Jon. Since 2010 I'm not sure as I am no longer a member. Without checks and balances, you get the error that is currently being taught.
Free Willy is the only Director.
Nobody understands what your talking about October 25, 2020 at 7:18 AM other than its clear that you are attempting to detract from the very important information provided to those seeking answers on this post. Keep it up if you must, but understand it is not working.
The fact is, error exists at this organization.
How can there be error in this church when Christ himself is working inside Mr. Brisby? The church follows Christ and cannot be filled with error.
Rock On Jon. His our Pastor and Jesus makes his body Dance and move with like a great comedian
Provide visible tangible biblical evidence that Christ is working inside of Mr. Brisby, and I will show you that he is not
Free Willy fearfully and wonderfully made. Free the Willy to shine a Light
I pray that this group can boil water. And God help them learn Etiquette.
I thought those ladies were made to serve and be helpful to husband. Why don’t those cook up meals and dress appropriately? I went back to living church in 2016. Never looked back since.
The Gospel has no good news in COGE
our church is not dead as some like to claim. We are protected by God. Jon's new book has brought us persecution. Get out of church if you don't like it. Suck it up and digest the book. Mr Brisby is the only faithful servantPastor on earth.
Sound's Like the Office staff are getting hopeless and sense that this situation might bring lower wages .
"Live by the sword, die by the sword"
What sword are you referring too October 29th ? Are you preparing for the new president? Maybe your a trump supporter? I sense your prepared to take your sword to church? Don’t forget we have security at the door.
Despise not prophesyings
It is with sadness that I write this comment to you to inform you that I can no longer walk in agreement with the Church of God The Eternal . I have been having a difficult time accepting all of the new teachings. I cannot prove them from the Bible and they have been difficult to understand.
I will be going back to the old beliefs, the truths that we once understood the truths that were revealed to Mr. Herbert W. Armstrong.
Therefore, please accept my resignation and the resignation of my family from membership with the Church of God The Eternal
I will miss the brethren , which is one of the reasons I continued this long.
Hold Fast ALL THINGS .
Do not treat prophecies with contempt but test them all; hold on to what is good, reject every kind of evil.” 1 Thessalonians 5:20-21 The Bible is clear that we should test everything that we receive and keep what is good and reject what is bad. I encourage you to do the same.
We must test the spirits .
Radio Church of God Monday Pentecost and those prophecies was the revelation of Jesus Christ given to a Chosen Servant.
Please re study those two books below
The United States In Prophecy
Herbert W Armstrong - Booklet - 1940
The key to the Book of REVELATION
by Herbert W Armstrong
Publication Date: 1952
HE WILL BE RIGHT MY FRIENDS! GOD"S WORD WILL COME TO PASS
Exactly the same beliefs of two brothers inside that group. Hard to understand why those two just tag along and don’t cry aloud to the original.
When you reject Jon you have rejected Christ. All that he teaches come directly though his chosen Servant. We all need to respect his office. Raymond Thought Jon was Joshua and he maybe correct. His love and dedication to truth has demonstrates Jesus working among his chosen servant. I appreciated all new doctrine and truth. I do accept in faith without asking questions. We need the right attitude to see the real Jesus working on earth today in His fleshy church.
Because it's the only way the two L brothers will be allowed to have the perceived authority they do. If they go along to get along.
When you reject Jon, you have done what Christ has commanded us to do, reject false teachers. Your choice; obey men, or obey God.
Trump - making your church great again. Trump loves your religious roots.
I’m praying for trump . Please do the same.
Every time I see trump and hear Jon speaking I get extremely excited. I voted trump hopefully you all pray.
Political leaders just like church of god leaders. Money and power.
Your statement makes no sense.
Don’t speak in parables your not Jesus. Only Mr Brisby and Jesus dwell together in flesh. Jon is the only living Pastor teaching Jesus is come in his flesh . Our church is fleshy and Christ is dwelling among men.
Dear Brothers and Sisters,
Tonight the Church in this Year of Faith will heal those little Daughters. The Church Is Our Mother Joe Biden as its 46th president, will Heal your Church and those Daughters.
Return To Your Roots. New Biden urges your Church to return to its Gospel roots and obey your Mother.
with love in Jesus,
Vatican Council
Mr Brisby embodies the power of Jesus. Our church is built upon a rock. We have deep roots far removed from Rome and her Sins.
I love all the actors on this blog great Comedians.
I wonder who in this little group is Jon attacking now with his latest monthly letter concerning Jewish roots. Over the course of a number of years he has chose to put out writings or sermons on this topic or that topic, but it is always designed to get at a couple or more people who hold onto some idea. For example: flat earth theory, chem trails, fourth of July, Thanksgiving, etc.. its like he is having his own personal battles with these people while disregarding the rest of the brethren by failing to edify. Something with his ego for decades now. Eventually it will all come to not because God does not put up with bull.
Herbert W. Armstrong was wearing Star of David Cufflinks. But Jon would not tell you that!
November 8, 2020 at 6:34 PM
exactly!
Jon is attacking the very founder Herbert Armstrong. These sorts of trivial matters should be left alone. Herbert Armstrong did set the example and there isn’t anything wrong with the Star of David ✡️. Jon doesn’t know everything he claims to know and understand. No wonder God said professing to be wise become fool’s. Jesus was born a Jew and we must accept and acknowledge that fact.
Absolutely correct Sir. Jon seems to be engaging in trivia.
He whittles his group down a little at a time by his targeted messages. The ones who stay are the hard-core followers of the man, or office employees who still need a paycheck. A few stragglers from other groups come through, but generally don't show up again. Mr. Brisby is the fitting model of 3rd John. He is Diotrephese after a different name. Read it and compare it to his mode of operation and you will see. Eventually there will not be enough solid tithe payers left to support the office operation and things will have to change.
I feel very distraught. Jon lost his mind.
That is a natural feeling to have. Remember the Apostle Paul said not to marvel at how these men behave and distort the truth because even Satan's angels can appear as a minister of light. Once you have seen the problems, take your time and make your transition out so that it is not so much of a shocker to you.
Our Pastor truly got Attitude problems
Does anyone know much about Renewed Church Of God? And Church of God Santa Rosa?
Both Keep Monday Pentecost it seems.
Yes I am familiar with both. Renewed COG is no longer around. That was started by Mike Barnes who left Bethel. It fizzled out pretty quick.
Church of God, Santa Rosa is still around but its not an actual building or congregation you can attend. Best I can tell you is that it is virtual. I still communicate with Scott Royer occasionally. He is the one who started it.
If I may make a suggestion, get away from looking for Monday Pentecost groups because they are just simply not out there. There are scattered brethren who keep it like me. I keep Monday and loosely associate with United COG. I think if you study in areas of the Bible you may have never done before, you are going to find out that it is okay to associate with others in other groups. Even have Sabbath services. Remember COGTEs claim to fame is a Monday Pentecost, and that is how you become locked in, mainly by fear for leaving the group first, and then secondly because you have only listened to what you've been told by JB from the scriptures he warps. You can still keep your Monday without changing.
Look at the 7 churches in Revelations. They all had something different about them doctrinal, yet in chapter 1, Christ said HE stands in the Midst or middle of them. Youve been told the contrary haven't you? Mr. Cole held on to the truth and during his time there was no reason to leave. When you detect error as it seems you have (I did when I was there) under Jon Brisby, we are told to depart. Go to www.afaithfulservant.com there is lots of good information there that will help you make the needed decisions.
free the willy now,
Ang baboy ng aming Pastor eat. Ok lang na tikman at kumain ng regular. Marami dito ang mahirap. Kapareho ito ng pagkain ng iba pang mga karne na nagmula sa mga inaabuso, mga hayop sa bukid na pabrika. Hindi tayo walang pag-unawa. Sinabi ng aming Pastor na huwag hatulan ng sinuman ang paghatol sa iyo sa mga katanungan tungkol sa pagkain at inumin, KAYA mabuti para sa amin dito na kumain. Para sa mga ito ay hindi pumapasok sa kanilang puso kundi sa kanilang tiyan, at pagkatapos ay lumabas sa katawan. " (Sa pagsasabi nito, idineklara ni Jesus na malinis ang lahat ng pagkain. Ang kaharian ng Diyos ay hindi isang bagay ng pagkain at pag-inom, tayo ay malaya sa takot na kumain.
My Name is Wilton Gregory, the archbishop of Washington, D.C. I do enjoy reading this blog. It's Very clear to me that those of the Church of God groups are very "lukewarm in their faith. Pope Francis has sought prayerful and humble men, deeply committed to Jesus, Your Church need's Hope, Love, Care, I feel a strong affirmation to bring you all back in the One faith.
Check out this blog. The posts are based on the problems that are seen within the churches of God, especially COGTE. https://castingoutfear.blogspot.com/?m=1
November 11, 2020 at 6:39 AM
Wilton Daniel Gregory could be the man of Sin! Why are you so interested in all parties concerning the faith as commonly believed in the Churches of God?
We all know you as Babylon the Great, commonly known as the Whore of Babylon, You Wilton Daniel Persecuting apostles and prophets . I ask you to seek the truth and Repent of your Sins.
RE: Anonymous said...
November 11, 2020 at 6:39 AM
The Roman Catholic doctrine, Has addressed your errors -
https://www.catholic.com/tract/the-whore-of-babylon
The Whore of Babylon is not the Catholic Faith.
Churches of God Could be the beast system She's a Woman . Your Churches are very naughty Indeed, But you have played the harlot [against Me] with many lovers–yet would you now return to Me? says the Lord [or do you even think to return to Me? Jeremiah 3:1-25. polluted the land with your vile harlotry and your wickedness (unfaithfulness and disobedience to God. You the Church of God are playing around. One Pastor has the Nick Name Free Willy the act of confusion covers you.
This is a dead church. They do not preach the gospel to the world, they teach a doctrine that has very little to do with the Bible and more designed to control the small number of people willing to hang around. They have been taught to follow a man rather than Jesus. They have been taught to disregard scripture and listen soley to the words of a man
Our Church isn’t dead. We have the love of Jesus. Mr Brisby has the full authority over us and we appreciate him for the work. Those who say we are dead don’t know us. Our little family fellowship hasn’t seen any members departed. We are strong faith filled family of Jesus. Come and worship at our feet and get your sins washed clean.
Jon Continually lies. He's a rebel-
You are correct, he is a liar. Ive caught him a number of times in sermons doing it.
God's true ministers do not lie! Mr. Brisby does not lie as he has Christ dwelling within him. How can he lie if this is the case? Mr. Brsby speaks the very words of Christ and it behooves us to pay attention. Our salvation depends upon following what he says. We will never make it into the kingdom of God, especially if we blaspheme God's servant.
Willy can never lie! Lie still, that is! Free willy NOW! Let him rise up! Let him go forth!
I don't see nay work it's a dead Church.
I can point out exactly which sermons he lied in and show that he said the opposite elsewhere. What is your proof that he is a true servant?
December 3, 2020 at 4:12 PM
Jesus lives in Jon. We follow Jesus
Robert G. Burke said to me personally we should be Willing to Be a Martyr for Mr Brisby. I found this disturbing. Jon definitely is not Jesus and Jesus isn't Jon.
Here is the truth
https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/StudioFeatured/docid-702020465_1_VIDEO
If that's true, they have gotten even crazier than when I was there.
It is true and those that blaspheme Christ blaspheme Mr. Brisby! You mockers will pay dearly for badmouthing Mr. Brisby! God the Father will hold accountable all who blaspheme Christ (Mr. Brisby)
The Bible commands us to not be deceived and delude ourselves. The impostors will go on from bad to worse, deceiving those in this group.
I think your missing what the Bible says about trying those who say they are servants, apostles, etc... the very fact that some are pointing out gross errors on his part, shows they are doing their biblical duty. When he became a minister, God put him directly under the Biblical microscope. Sorry, he does not get to escape it because you want to worship him.
I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:
Revelation 2:2 KJV
Pastor Jon has Jesus manifest inside his Body. His strong masculine just like Jesus himself.
When I see his flesh at meetings I meditate.
Drink purple coolaid much? Sounds like your modern day Jones cult.
Your Church is told your not able to understand Prophecies. America today is broken our Pride and Power has been taken away. Prophecy shows this would take place. The devil is the one behind telling you your not able to understand absurd, You must recognize truth vs error.
This is crap 6:51. Prophecy in the church has been a lie from day one. Not one single thing the church has ever predicted or said has ever been true.
You must rely upon Christ dwelling in Mr. Brisby to keep us ready for the time of trial. Searching stupid prophecies will not work. Divine Revelation from Christ through Mr. Brisby is what we need to follow.
Oh, you mean like the regurgitaded material on HIS version of the Faith once delivered? He is doing nothing but preparing you to fall. There is no edification there whatsoever and he will be held responsible for it.
You blaspheme Jesus Christ when you say Mr. Brisby "regurgitates" his version of COG material. What he speaks is the Word of Christ directly working within him! Christ himself is in his mind and is delivering the truth we need to hear before it is too late!
Prove it right here, right now that Christ works directly with Jon. I will that he does not. You first.
Satan the Devil is happy your Church is doing away with old teachings from a man called Herbert Armstrong. Example Prophecy. You are told it’s all speculation . We can’t understand it. It’s from British Israel and Herbert Armstrong re branded the teachings. Satan wants you all to believe the lie. Don’t eat this bad fruits.
I regularly see Jesus working within Jon. He has delivered unto us new revelation and mystery’s within the bible. Faith once Delivered added the missing dimension containing secret knowledge. Only the very elect will actually accept him. Jesus is seated inside his flesh. I appreciate Jesus and Jon Brisby very much. We all need to accept him with deep faith.
we all should be Willing
to Be a Martyr for Jon as Jesus is here presently in this man only.
Are you ready to stand with Jesus?
Your either playing, or you are indeed a wack job.
Jon Brisby is not a whack job. You are calling Christ a whack job when you do this. Jon is the only COG minister preaching the words of Christ to the church. The other COG leaders are leading people astray and into the lake of fire.
I dont understnad the hatred of Mr Brisby. Christ dwells within the man and directs the very words that come from his mouth.
Jon is Jesus in the flesh! Stop whining and move on.
Would seem to indicate those members are fully brain washed. Jesus does not regularly come back his dwelling with His Farther. Jon isn’t The farther of Christ. Be not deceived.
5:36AM Thinking exactly the same . Very Dangerous to accept Jesus comes back to earth regularly in Jon . Senile teachings must be addressed and disregarded.
So when Jon says ( maybe So Maybe Not that’s Jesus in his flesh and the spoken word of Christ? I would run out the door very fast because Christ is at the door knocking. Jesus doesn’t create doubt. Yes or nay . Right or wrong. Plain truth made plain. Which tee will you choose? Truth mixed with error isn’t of Christ!
I've said this before, and can thankfully prove it; Jon has been in error almost since the death of Raymond Cole. This is well documented in audio and writings. When you start your tenure out by throwing decades long writings in the trash that Raymond himself had a hand in, your in error. Those original writings of COGTE follow the Bible.Jon didn't like that because they were instruction to the brethren on how to deal with men and organizations when they get out of line. Sadly everyone went along with it. Either that or they didn't read his letter in June of 01 to begin with.
He gained boldness from this first act, and much error later, here we are. Our brethren there will eventually have to make a choice.
Jesus the Christ is never wrong. His word's are spoken via Our Minister.
Mr Brisby is filled with Jesus he feed's us Christ the daily bread we eat is words daily. This is the Church of God only.
I hope Jon will finally free Willy. He needs to eat too.
willy is unclean food. taste not touch not . His Word's are Jesus .
Jon is God's gift to us to save us from the Lake of Fire. Without him, we are doomed. Our salvation is in his hands as he preaches the words of Christ himself.
Mr. Brisby exudes true masculinity because Jesus is living within him. Mr. Brisby is what a truly masculine man looks like. He is God's perfect creation. When you look at the leaders of other COG's right now all you see are effeminate men. Christ dwelling in Mr. Brisby has raised the bar for the true church.
Jesus came back to this earth in power and great glory in this man. Jesus rules from his temple today.
Gotta love these trolls. All your nonsense still doesn't negate that the man is and has been in error for years.
It's not trolling to state the fact that Christ dwells within Mr. Brisby!
Well first its not a fact because if it were, you would be able to prove it. Secondly, it is a fact that he has been in error for years because I can prove it.
The only trolls I see here are those who deny Christ working in Mr. Brisby. When Christ is revealed in his full glory in Mr. Brisby then the end times will hit. These deniers will be living in fear of their salvation! Repent now and live!
Jesus doesn’t allow errors into his Body. Our Church is the Body of Jesus upon the earth. His flesh certainly would be our Pastors. Brisby has been given transformed by Revelation its our gift. Merry day ahead soon let’s celebrate in love and respect for Christ in Jon.
For those listening to Brisbys latest messages on "Just what is the faith once delivered", pay special attention to when he reads from Armstrongs or Coles writings. He is currently doing this with #31 and 32. Brisby has a track record of deception and omission when reading from other men's material. I remember and have documented a number of times he left out whole paragraphs when reading to the brethren, making them think that he read the passage in its entirety. This was the only way he could prove what he was attempting to prove.
I remember this being done in 08, 2014, and 2015, among others. If your going to do it correctly when listening to him, do as the Bereans did and get that pamphlet in front of you and read along.
Hasn’t Jesus returned in Brisby? I regularly see Jesus in his eyes.
Those eyes are the devils
You've got the devil in your eyes
You went and took me by surprise
Say what you wanna say I won't go back
If you wanna hit the road then let's go then
Let's just go and see the world and just show them
What it really means to live life golden
We the Church are under the condition of being persecuted. Mr.Brisby is really like Jesus Christ we follow Him and support Jesus. The threshold for Jesus in the flesh of Jon is remarkable. Jesus has a special Voice and that Voice is Jesus.
God said he would send his Word before the horrible end times through his spokesman. Mr. Brisby is that man that Christ dwells in. He is leading us to salvation and freedom from this dark world. Without Christ choosing Mr. Brisby we would be lost and headed into the Laodicean church. Thank goodness God loves us so much He sent his Son to us in Jon.
December 28, 2020 at 5:46 PM
Jon will not tell you the truth.
Today’s Headline out of Britain Was Written Over 40 Years Ago!
Brexit is now reality. Herbert W. Armstrong forecast it in 1973.
This is what Mr. Armstrong said would happen—decades ago. Mr. Armstrong concluded that 1973 article by writing, “Britain’s entry into the European Community portends a tragic situation. Britain will be faced with a dilemma.”
Britain faced that dilemma, just as Mr. Armstrong predicted, Now the members in this group must also face the truth. Don't play games with God about the Faith Once Delivered.
fools and no respect!
Don't tell lies . We only hear our Pastor! Why read dead man's works
BANNER HEADLINE NEWS
The long range Prophecy has been fulfilled 2020 UK is out of Europe . Will you all repent admit the existence or truth?
THE PLAIN TRUTH - AHEAD OF ITS TIME? YES - REPENT .
!!Egg on your faces!!
For over 50 years during the last century, the late Mr. Herbert W Armstrong warned of the coming “United States of Europe” And He said UK would be out of the EU as he faithfully proclaimed and published the true gospel of Jesus Christ around the world as a witness unto all nations on the Earth.
This Witness was also for Brisby and those under his Lies!
Isaiah 53 Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the Lord revealed?
Church Of God The Eternal Never believed the Report it's not too Late to Repent.
Call your Pastor and tell him to Repent.
I call on your all to take note time is very short
Mr. Brisby CANNOT and WILL NOT ever make a mistake or teach us false doctrine. It is factually impossible since Christ is dwelling within him.
Robert J. Litz Told me personally that his been told to keep his mouth shut -with regards to speaking on last day events as related in the bible. Many unhappy members. And many support him in the efforts of Armstrong teachings here in states. The bible teaches to one the gift of phrophesy to another healing ect. God is the one that uses a man for different roles at different times in church history.
Psalm 116:11 “These people are all liars Jon is not Jesus and Jesus is not Jon
January 1, 2021 at 6:12 PM
Many people are liars, and we may all lie in ways of which we are not fully aware, such as false representation, pretense, or silence which is Satan's snares. Return unto thy rest.
Question is Eating Sugar Spiritual Sin ? I recently discovered a sermon with Brisby saying it's Spiritual Sin.
Christ never ate sugar so Mr. Brisby tells the truth.
January 1, 2021 at 9:24 PM
You know nothing. Jesus did drink beer. Brewing sugar was used.
You don't know the Real Jesus and his Works.
You must know those Jews called Jesus Christ a glutton and a winebibber.
Jesus would tell you For the Kingdom of God is not a matter of what we eat or drink, but of living a life of goodness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit.
Be not carried about with divers and strange doctrines of Men.
Yes you can drink beer and have a little sugar it's not Sin!
Many if not all who have been called by Father had the same attitudes you see prevailing on these blogs. It takes time for growth and understanding to develop much like a baby to a child to an adult. Hopefully many will be allowed to grow beyond the milk of the word such as stated in Hebrews. Christ willing.
Little Childish Children grow up and attain strong Meat. Your babies and are sucking the wrong Breasts.
Jon has strong meat alright! Set Willy free and let justice roll down!
How can you say the words and teachings of Mr. Brisby are not strong meat? With Christ working in him the words we hear and the words he writes is strong meat indeed! We are hearing the truth that Mr. Armstrong originally heard and which has been lost in all the different COG's out there today. Mr. Armstrong would be proud to see Mr. Brisby carrying on the work of God! Shame on you!
January 2, 2021 at 12:20 PM
No Shame in the Truth! But if your just posting on this blog to keep your Employment in the Office I would then feel really Ashamed.
I love and care deeply for you all.
No man can serve two masters . Jesus is not inside Jon Brisby !
Which Master will you all Serve Jesus Christ or a Man?
Sure represents something that is at odds with service to God.
Any Minister that claims to be Jesus in is Flesh today on earth should be dismissed.
We Only have the holy Spirit which allows and Empowers Us to Share the Good News.
Show me the fruit's of the Good News in your Church?
It is the Holy Spirit that leads us to know that Christ dwells within Jon Brisby. It is the Holy Spirit the helps us discern the words of Christ coming through Jon. Christ is preparing us for the soon-coming Kingdom of God so that we can be part of the marriage supper. Jon is leading us on that path as Christ's embodiment on earth today.
January 2, 2021 at 8:57 PM
There is a way that seems right to a man, but its end is the way to death.
Let them alone; they are blind guides. And if the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit.”
Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and do not lean on your own understanding
And it shall be that every soul who does not listen to that prophet shall be destroyed from the people. Acts 3:23 Open your bible and read Jesus in Print. This is the voice of Jesus
Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them.
Sanctify them in the truth; your word is truth. Jesus Word's not men! Jesus is come in the form of the written word . Not in flesh of any one person.
Little Child seek your Lord and Master Jesus Christ. Any man claiming to be Jesus in flesh doesn’t understand the Scripture. No different than the Pope’s. Herbert Armstrong never taught Jesus regularly visits earth now and then and comes back from time too time in a man . This wasn’t taught Originally . It isn’t apart of the faith Once Delivered and is very dangerous indeed. The bible is clear on the subject and we should pay attention to the words contained within the Bible.
The Good News of the returned Jesus in Brisby will be seen by all flesh. He is the only Pastor doing the work.
What Work are you referring to? Jon's Church has No message going out into the World With any Power or authority. Is your pastor on Radio Crying out of the End-time devastation soon to come upon our United States? Don’t be timid. Tell my people Israel of their sins His Crying out ? Do you hear this Today? Is he on Radio with the The Kingdom of God message ? More like "Don't prophesy to us right things. Tell us pleasant things. Prophesy deceits. You need to follow the example of the Radio Church of God. Step out in Real Faith and follow the Faith Once Delivered. Take all diligence and contend trust and serve an invisible God by faith step out in Faith. The body of truth that has been revealed has been lost Today. Has time been Lost in the Church Today ? Herbert W. Armstrong was sent and we are to follow his example Today.
Strong enough Words above. Sounds like Jesus has certainly sent a message to those that attend over there. I strongly agree more is required in our little fellowship. Brisby refused any suggestions of any work. He seems partial and uninterested in continuing any Radio Broadcasting. Only thing he does is travelling the World having a good time enjoying the labour’s of God’s Money. Would be better invested into the message of the Original teachings in carrying and publishing the gospel . Jesus said much is required from those that understand the mystery’s of the Kingdom.
Free the Willy, Bethel Church of God set the Willy's free . Church of God The Eternal Now ime to free also.
It is interesting how the world around us is going south quickly, and instead of warning, exhorting, etc..., this Mr. Brisby continues to regurgitate the same dead messages over and over. Many are going to be responsible in the end for not doing their ministerial duty. Does he not see what he is not doing? Deceiving, and he is deceived.
Those Pastors and Ministers are the devils men doing his Work. GET OUT QUICK
Yes and the Devil has those Men by the Willy.
How do you spot a blind man on a nude beach with his Bible?
Knock, Knock!
Who’s There?
Dewey!
Dewey who?
Dewey see a stick? It’s dark in here Pastor
Even in the dark, you would still need a magnifying glass.
Breaking News
And the daughter of Zion is left as a cottage in a vineyard, as a lodge in a garden of cucumbers, as a besieged city Isaiah 1:8. SO those cucumbers in the lodge or Church are used today by the daughters of your Church.
Is that why Kim loves her ORGANIC grown Produce?
Question: Is The Book Of Revelation Necessary for us To Obtain Salvation?
In The Church Of God The Eternal today, it is common practice to dismiss specific books of the Bible, even whole portions of the Bible. Generally, this is done in order to explain why a specific group does or does not practice something contained within the whole canonized version of what we commonly call the "Holy Bible".
copy paste
https://castingoutfear.blogspot.com/2020/09/question-is-book-of-revelation.html?m=1
ORGANic is the best! Lots of women in COGTE (and a couple guys) are into ORGANic. Delicious and yummy!
COGTE is the ONLY COG today that is actively doing a work to get the Gospel out. Holding fast to the teachings of Herbert Armstrong, the church is boldly moving forward as Christ dwells in Mr. Brisby. Stop criticizing the man. To criticize him is to criticize Christ himself.
He comes in the flesh of His man Jon Brisby and those who support that man—as they let the mind of Christ be in them (Philippians 2:5). Christ actually lives in us through His Spirit! Jesus Christ Himself is coming in the flesh in each one of us who are converted. Jesus Christ prophesied that just before His Second Coming, a human being would “restore all things”—all foundational truth—to the Church of God (Matthew 17:10-11). We must understand that no man can restore all things . Jesus has Restored our Church .
Sounds like you are primed for excepting the mark of the beast.
bless those cumumbers
January 17, 2021 at 4:37 PM
Mark of the Beast is Covid vaccines we have new truth. Ask Jon
Sputnik V jab Get Russian jab Fix you all
Over us is our elder Brother Jesus Christ who lived in a body of flesh like ours. But His not on this earth Today.
Not yet anyways.
CGI has no fruit and no longer follows God. Only Mr. Brisby, who has Christ dwelling in his body is the true messenger to the church today.
So you have been conned into following a man Jon Brisby rather than Jesus. Good luck with that.
Jon has certification as spokesman on earth. We are to follow his faith and obey his teachings. I truly trust Jon his commitment is like Jesus. Jesus promised he has little flocks and we’re literally one of those lost sheep. Our Pastor Jesus lives. Follow Jesus
Our church must be willing to lay down our life’s for Jon. This represents love .
Who does Jon lay his life down for?
Our fellowship of late has been down on attendees. We need some kind of revival . There are some loose curls that need to be fixed. We cannot go on like this.
So when Jon gets instructional directions will you go place of safety?
May be we should worry less about numbers and more about what Father and Christ desire.
Your farther cares about numbers. He can count the hairs on your head . Our group hasn’t that many converted members. Definitely something to think about. Pray that God will send more labourers into the church. Are we praying for more members? If not why not?
Of course, we will follow Jon's directives on Petra when it is time to flee. It will be Christ speaking to us when that happens. Would we deny Christ?
Our church is about to explode in new and dynamic ways as Christ leads us into the Kingdom. Many will come to us from other COG's that have become Laodicean. The church will have never seen anything like this in its history. Many will tremble for dismissing Mr. Brisby. I would not want to be in their shoes! Christ is not mocked! Deny Mr. Brisby and you deny Christ!
Your right, COGTE is about to explode in new and dynamic ways: right into tiny little pieces. Not one stone will be left upon another. I know first hand that you have dwindled to a small defunct group because of the distorted truth Brisby has been teaching. Peter is pre-eminent, its okay to curse your enemy through prayer, the book of Revelation is not needed to name a few. And now your fishing for members in the recently closed Bethel cog? Common, who are you kidding? My suggestion; get into your Bible and follow Jesus instead of that man.
When we follow Mr. Brisby we are following Jesus himself! We are not about to explode into little pieces! The Work of God is alive and well in Mr. Brisby. Jesus' presence himself confirms that. The Bible proves that, too.
I think therapy is in order for you.
We only need very few because then your all easy to Control. I did hear Director is struggling to regain the groups trust.
Joe Biden, the pope and Jon are all best friends
I have found Jon to be so sweet and fun. Just like Jesus strong very impressive. He had given me experience like no other.
Jon and his Bible have been naughty,
That is an understatement.
JB had some interesting admissions in #35 just what is the FOD. He is no stranger to hypocrisy as he speaks of how the divine healing booklet was removed from church circulation back in WW, when he himself removed Raymond Cole approved material from church circulation shortly after his death. Material the church needed, and badly needs today so that they can see the error he is teaching currently. History makes its circles.
Jon told us the COVID vaccine is the Mark of Beast. The organization and type of Job i do has made the vaccine compulsory. Should I take the shot YES/NO ?
If Jesus lives in your Flesh Covid 19 will not harm you. Yes it's Safe . Ask Jon for anointing oil
NO it's the Mark of Satan ! We have been tod it's Sin
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