One of the vilest teachings of the church that was brutally enforced over the decades was the "divorce and remarriage" doctrine/teaching. Countless stories have been told over the decades of loving couples and families ripped to pieces by the Church of God's vile stance. Most had probably thought those days were long gone, but it is not.
This letter was posted on Exit and Support and describes the vile and unChristian teachings of Jon Brisby:
I wanted to write and thank you for helping people who have left or will leave the "Armstrong cult groups." I was born into the WWCG. It helped to destroy my whole family--my parents, my siblings, and up until this year, even me. We all made some mistakes and bad choices on our own but Herbert Armstrong and his ministers, splinters, and even some members, helped destroy my family emotionally, just with the judgmental attitudes, being made to feel we were in "hot water" with God, telling us that outsiders were of the world, etc. My most recent minister Jon W. Brisby (Church of God, the Eternal) has even told me that my lack of financial comfort is the result of my "not living in a pleasing enough way for God." I was also told that my family is the "church" now and no longer my kids, since they are not members. Luckily, my kids grew up against the Armstrong teachings and have their own beliefs. As for me, I am finally what I consider to be "out of the dark" of these Armstrong worshippers. I emailed my minister two weeks ago and explained my decision to leave. He has yet to respond.
Church of God, The Eternal (COGE) is a small group. The lead minister is Jon W. Brisby (age 55). He has some wild ideas. A married couple came to the group from LCG a few years ago. They had been married for about 18 years. Brisby soon found out that the man had been married briefly to someone else when he was a really young man. They divorced and his ex married someone else. Anyway, this married couple of 18 plus years were instructed to split up and live separately but not get divorced. Jon Brisby told him that if his ex wife happens to die then and only then can he and his current wife live as a couple again. The couple have remodeled their home and made it into a duplex. They each live in one of the side by side units. They are allowed to go back and forth to each other's apartment for meal times but not allowed to sleep, shower or linger at each other's place. At the Feast of Tabernacles and Pentecost they were not permitted to sit together for services. This couple is in their 50's also.
There is another man, a single man around age 60. This man was also married but years ago his wife left him and married a Seventh Day Adventist. Brisby told him he must never remarry. This man said God would not allow him to marry unless his ex died. Brisby stays in total control of the dating and marriage relationships in the group. He comes off as very intensely and genuinely kind, but if he feels you cross him, then he gets an attitude and can be very arrogant.
--Kandice Cunning (Child survivor of WCG; Former member of COGE)Church of God, the Eternal has on its page the following which is used as a weapon to stop members from writing such things as was done above. They seek to create the myth that all of the things they teach are directly from Christ, passed down through the apostles to Bisby and others today. To deny what they teach is blasphemy and denial of the truth which separates the "rebellious" from God.
What God gave to Moses, He gave to Christ. What Christ taught to the apostles, He commissioned them to proclaim in their designated areas. What Christ and the apostles taught was the same as was revealed to Paul. And what all those servants taught is exactly what was given to an end-time servant (Matthew 28:19–20). For those who will hear, our purpose is to honor and proclaim that same way of life—the faith once delivered. In that way is found no part of the way given to Gentiles—people of the world (Deuteronomy 12:1–3; 4:1–40, Acts 14:16). We want the ways of God. We are not interested in any of the traditions or customs of this world. God’s servant of these last days at no time made the pagan customs of this world a part of the doctrine. The spirit which introduces change, and/or a relaxation of the doctrine is as much at work today as it was in the past. The called of God must be on guard incessantly. That spirit is a deceiver. He will do anything to destroy.
One concluding observation seems to be necessary. Those who believed and loved the Truth of God have remained strong, loyal, and faithful. On the other hand, it seems that everyone who was “argued” into acceptance of the “faith once delivered” has failed ultimately. It, indeed, seems like God is separating those who believe and love the Truth from those who must surely have accepted only on the basis of their own personal intellectual prowess.
Satan and his demons hate the ways of God. They will do anything to disrupt, challenge, and destroy. Such behavior is a manifestation of who and what the true people of God are all about. They persecuted Christ. In like manner they will do the same thing to those in whom Christ lives. The faithful of God will count it a privilege to suffer for the cause of righteousness. They will be persecuted and lied about with abandon, but these chosen children of God will know who they are. They love the Truth and will for no cause allow themselves to turn from it. They are the ones who will endure to the end.
Who are we? We are estranged members—a remnant (Romans 9:27–33; 11:1–5, Isaiah 1:8–9, Revelation 12:13–17)—from the apostate body (2 Thessalonians 2:1–3) who sincerely love God’s revealed Truth from the heart (2 Thessalonians 2:10), willing to remain faithful to the end (Matthew 24:13). That Truth which was taught by Christ (John 14:6; 12:48–50), that Truth which Christ commissioned the Twelve Apostles to teach (Matthew 28:20). Which was the same message taught by the Apostle Paul (Galatians 1:6–16, 1 Thessalonians 2:12–14). Which was the same message taught by an end-time servant (Matthew 28:19–20). Which had significant beginning with Moses (Hebrews 4:1–3). The Truth which is now obeyed from a spiritual premise (2 Corinthians 3:1–11).
These are the people that God’s true ministry desires to serve. It is our purpose to give you our energy and our love. Letter from Raymond Cole
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«Oldest ‹Older 1201 – 1400 of 2790 Newer› Newest»Well we know Jon is doing as he pleases, that is the problem. Once a man strays from God and the Bible, he will do as he sees fit in his own eyes. Wake up over there my friends, or perish.
What makes this remnant group truly different from the 300+ splinter groups of our parent organization? No one else believes what Mr. Armstrong originally taught about Truth. Well your all not much better you have rejected Mr. Armstrong on prophecy. He went to Jesus Christ to receive Devine Revelation. Jesus opend the The Book of Revelation. No other Groups or Church could understand the Seven Seals, trumpets, succession or Sequence.
The Book of Revelation Unveiled at last!
by Herbert W. Armstrong you have Rejected.
Book of Revelation stands UNVEILED! The revelation of Jesus Christ … to show unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass.
Why call Mr Armstrong a Servant of God ? Yet you Reject the Words's Christ has given us?
Of course! And absolutely NO ONE, except Jesus Christ, was able to strip off the seals, to open up, to REVEAL the meaning of the prophecies. Did you all read that my friends?
https://www.hwalibrary.com/cgi-bin/download/viewitem.cgi
No one else believes what Mr. Armstrong originally taught about Truth !
Do you believe Herbert Armstrong was that Servant ? To Which truth was Revealed ?
Think about it !
Revelation 22:19 - and if anyone takes away from or Distorts the words of the book of this prophecy, Read On------------
Do Not Reject or Take away prophecy!
July 2, 2021 at 5:27 AM
I could not agree with you more. That's right. Agreed. Are you one of the two Brothers in our church?
go back to sleep old person. We have new truth. Shut up Brisby has all truth he is our light.
What are the Seven Seals, trumpets, succession, or Sequences ?
Finally Out of the Dark / Jon W. Brisby:
April 18, 2018
I wanted to write and thank you for helping people who have left or will leave the “Armstrong cult groups.” I was born into the WWCG. It helped to destroy my whole family–my parents, my siblings, and up until this year, even me. We all made some mistakes and bad choices on our own but Herbert Armstrong and his ministers, splinters, and even some members, helped destroy my family emotionally, just with the judgmental attitudes, being made to feel we were in “hot water” with God, telling us that outsiders were of the world, etc. My most recent minister Jon W. Brisby (Church of God, the Eternal) has even told me that my lack of financial comfort is the result of my “not living in a pleasing enough way for God.” I was also told that my family is the “church” now and no longer my kids, since they are not members. Luckily, my kids grew up against the Armstrong teachings and have their own beliefs. As for me, I am finally what I consider to be “out of the dark” of these Armstrong worshippers. I emailed my minister two weeks ago and explained my decision to leave. He has yet to respond.
Church of God, The Eternal (COGE) is a small group. The lead minister is Jon W. Brisby (age 55). He has some wild ideas. A married couple came to the group from LCG a few years ago. They had been married for about 18 years. Brisby soon found out that the man had been married briefly to someone else when he was a really young man. They divorced and his ex married someone else. Anyway, this married couple of 18 plus years were instructed to split up and live separately but not get divorced. Jon Brisby told him that if his ex wife happens to die then and only then can he and his current wife live as a couple again. The couple have remodeled their home and made it into a duplex. They each live in one of the side by side units. They are allowed to go back and forth to each other’s apartment for meal times but not allowed to sleep, shower or linger at each other’s place. At the Feast of Tabernacles and Pentecost they were not permitted to sit together for services. This couple is in their 50’s also.
There is another man, a single man around age 60. This man was also married but years ago his wife left him and married a Seventh Day Adventist. Brisby told him he must never remarry. This man said God would not allow him to marry unless his ex died. Brisby stays in total control of the dating and marriage relationships in the group. He comes off as very intensely and genuinely kind, but if he feels you cross him, then he gets an attitude and can be very arrogant.
—-Kandice (Child survivor of WCG; Former member of COGE). https://exitsupportnetwork.com/letters-from-those-impacted-by-wcg-offshoots-2018/#Finally
Kandice please come back to Church. We all know your demon problems start with wild external objects. Please respect the Lord Jesus. He loves you and cares about your mind and body.
Well thats a real loving response to inspire someone to want to return. You just proved her point you fool.
This Church really need's Jesus ! Only Jesus can help those over there have Perfection. Divisions exist only because Satan plants his counterfeits wherever God plants true believers.
Please take the time to carefully discern not tossed here and there by every wind of doctrines of Men. Bad fruit' that comes from false Pastors are dangerous result of false teaching. God's Spirit does it build up or tear down? Demons are masters at playing the pride games. Just realize that pride is a major, offensive weapon of demons, and they will play this kind of game with anyone they feel will be susceptible to it, especially those who are in any type of leadership position. Demons play some of these people just like fiddles.
Jon was our Feast fiddles. Bless his Entertainment Elvis rocks on.
So your saying Jon is a demon? Aren't you just making the point of the gentleman who posted before you?
Who's the most popular actor in our Church history? We have seen Jon exalt himself on many occasions. I am able to see his Feast fiddles. Do you?
Please don't watch feast dildos that's bad.folk music dildos hang out
Reservoirs are drying up as consequences of the Western drought worsen. And I will break the pride of your power; and I will make your heaven as iron and your earth as brass. I will break the pride of your power. Leviticus 26:19
THE UNITED STATES and BRITISH COMMONWEALTH in Prophecy
We HAD Pride in Our Power! but We Lost It!
https://www.hwalibrary.com/cgi-bin/get/hwa.cgi?action=getbook&InfoID=1483364736&InfoType=USaBComInProphecy&page=&return=books
A Staggering Turn in World Events
Herbert W Armstrong
https://www.hwalibrary.com/cgi-bin/get/hwa.cgi?action=getbroadcast&InfoID=1337516089&byGraphicList=byGraphic&page=&return=broadcast
Your Church is asleep . Your Pastor is blind.
Our Church will not obey your inspiration, interpretation, or revelation of divine will concerning prophecy. We follow Chirst Not Herbert W. Armstrong. Herbert Just Copy all wild west prophecy from British Israelism . Mr.Brisby know's British Israelism came into the church under HWA. Ask him about the subject ? The interpretation of Revelation Must Come Direct inside our Church. Only Mr.Brisby has access to Chirst . Jesus Lives in Jon with direct manifestation. Follow Jon and because you then follow Jesus.
Jon Brisby is Christ on earth today! The words Jon Brisby speaks are directly from Christ himself manifest in Jon. Stop mocking him!
Do the women in Jon's cult still get all googly-eyed at him?
Back Off you Dogs! “Beware of dogs ! Today we have Dogs in the body ! Dgs frequently sat underneath tables and ate scraps of food that fell to the ground.
When I look at Jon with Respect i can really view and see the spirit of Jesus. Most of us females know he has a smile that could lighten the darkest room, Jon One of Chosen is a special work—a respectful, Spirit filled life. At times we have seen His eyes were as a flame of fire when Jesus takes over . Declaring the Image of Jesus himself in our Pastor.
Go Back to Sleep your Drunk
I AM NOT DRUNK . I PRAY DO YOU. YOUR CHURCH NEVER FAST OR REPENT.
Fasting is a spiritual discipline that is taught in the Bible. Jesus expected His followers to fast, and He said that God rewards fasting. Fasting, You are correct there has Never been Once Church Fast in our History. That's Shocking and shows the same of our understanding.
Get off your Devices and study your Bible. Those youths are definitely bored. Control your young people. Maybe there crying out for change. Those that keep Christmas and Birthdays are following Satan. Paganism slowly creeping into our fellowship . Most young youth aren’t preparing to rule with Christ. There simply too busy on there devices. All phones need to be consecrated in church services. A few ladies need to heed there husbands authority . No wonder Jon has been teaching of late women need to pull there heads in and listen. If our church continues like this we are heading for the outer court . We are receiving corrections please pay attention to Mr.Brisby. Face paint and other cosmetics have taken hold upon your faces. The dung and stinky smells are plain to see.
Please take the time and study on the church website. Make sure you hear this -
Where Is Christ Since
His Personal Days in the Flesh? #6
Re-played in Eugene, OR., 7-3-2021
Raymond C. Cole from 1994
Herbert W. Armstrong never preached this Doctrine.
So why the change under Cole? NO servant has any authority to change what Christ gave! Since the day's of his flesh he has not came back again. Show me the 3rd coming or return in the Bible?
No wonder He is covering up with a sermon about the 3rd Resurrection.
Don't be deceived, my dear brothers and sisters.
I'm not saying that it is right, but between 94 and up to the time of his death, Mr. Cole began to slip and continued to every now and then. You are correct, this teaching of Raymond is incorrect and not Biblical. It is unfortunately these mistakes that Mr. Cole made that Brisby has chose to seize upon because they are the things that work in his favor, especially where authority is concerned. He gets off on that. Some men its money, others its power and control.
Mr. Cole taught for several years that Christ was the head of the Church (spiritually) between 75 and up to around 92ish. I can prove it from many sermons I have cataloged over the years. In these messages he said with no uncertain terms "Christ is the Head of the Church, no man is and ever will be"! This he said numerous times. Then as ministers left over the years, and he began to see his self ailing in health, that spiritual head of the Church was transferred to a physical head...himself. I have not listened to this #6 tape yet, but in the 90s, he began to say that the body of Christ would be in chaos if there was no physical head. He would say that Christ is not chaos and confused, so there is a physical head. Obviously he was transferring that responsibility to himself because afterall, he was the one who started the group in 75. This then began modeling the Catholic Church (see litz sermon on Peter's preeminence), cogte New teaching that Jon sits in the place of Peter. It was clear that with age comes fear, who were all the brethren going to look to now that Mr. Cole was in waining health? Eyesight problems, etc... He couldn't have them looking to Bryce Clark over him. We all know then that they chose 2 men to succeed them, and we all know how that turned out.
You are also correct, yes he is covering up with these latest sermons he is doing, but then he has been doing that for sometime now on a myriad of other teachings.
The brethren are tired. Spiritually they are drained and have been feeling unfed for a very long time now as they continue to get message after message about Brisbys concept of the FOD and a whole host of other non related topics. Ask yourself; with the impending doom right around the corner, why is he not preparing the people, rather propping up his own position through his messages?
Lies, deception, all of the the trickery he employs in his messages will be known. Eventually God unravels the workings of men. I just pray that the brethren that get caught in the crossfire, can stand firmly on their own when they have to.
Lots of good information concerning Mr. Cole: www.afaithfulservant.com
www.afaithfulservant.com
Please registered Your “Group or Church” as a nonprofit corporation.
We need to be faithful
It's not a group or a church. Read the fine print.
I believe that website is the honest truth preservation is the key. Sure indicated Jon is not following Cole. Why don’t he register as a church? I would then consider attending here
The owner/creator of the website is not a minister, he is just merely preserving Mr. Coles material for others to have as a go to source in order to determine error when they hear it spoken or see it written by Brisby or any others who claim to be a commissioned minister.
This is why he does not register as a church. No authority to do so.
All those criticizing Mr. Brisby are agents of Satan trying to stop the word of God from going forth. God the Father has sent Jesus to dwell within Mr. Brisby so that the words he speaks glorify the Father and herald the Kingdom of God.
Thats interesting, because Brisby does not do anything to make the Word of God go forth...nothing, and thats a fact. There is no effectiveness in any of his words to cause anyone to even look at that little group twice. Why? Because if all your going to do is to continue to preach about the same things over and over; makeup, Monday Pentecost, D&R, etc.. to the same group who has been hearing it for 40 years now, those are the only ones who might stay. There is no meat of the word there, only useless repetitive idle words. Where are the things Jesus taught being spoken of? not there.
I have never heard Real Gospel the good news. Just bad News .
Delta variant could be unclean spirits like frogs." John says some spirits are false prophets (4:1) and the spirit that does not confess Jesus came in the flesh is the spirit of antichrist. Jon is the only one on earth that jesus lives. Delta could be Armageddon?
How about this Mr. Brisby since you are on the topic of outer appearance and vanity. Stop fawning over your hairdo, stop riding around in a corvette, and most importantly, I would like for you to go back and watch some of your recordings. The whipping around of your neck and head, the smug and arrogant looks you give when railing people or ideas, and the way you choose to enunciate words with your low guttural growls. Work on those things, and then come back to the congregation when you have gotten that all worked out. After all, are you not supposed to be setting the example first and foremost?
The problem here is, Mr. Brisby has gotten so far afield and out of tune with what really needs to be preached, that he has given over to a contrary spirit. Christ said Mr. Brisby...feed MY sheep! Look around at the world. In the last year and a half, this nation has taken a nose dive leaving brethren in all sorts of mental states and disarray. Depression, anger, hopelessness, you name it, yet here you are once again going after clothing? Hello, you don't think the brethren need words that are going to help them REALLY overcome and press forward for what's coming? Clothing, outward appearance, really? You have no problem with attire and outward appearance over there whatsoever. I know this because I was once there. Everyone has fallen in line over there for decades except for a couple of exceptions. Leave people alone with what they do on the outside in their own lives. Evidently, you have seen one too many kids wearing a t-shirt you didn't like at a picnic, or a hairstyle you didn't like, or something. I hope you realize you have returned to the days of going into people's houses and looking for sugar...you realize that I hope?
My warning to you sir is to start getting some meat in the ears of these brethren so that they can weather what is shortly coming. Do not do the work of Satan and distract them with mundane things. FEED THEM or YOU will be held accountable.
Well his corvette, would = Jesus On wheels ? Cool Pastor he must be tempted to drive that Corvette very Fast?
I knew Mr. Cole from the inception of COGTE. It is clear that his messages primarily stayed on track until men (other ministers & laity) left in the early '90s and ultimately in the latter 90s.
What becomes apparent in many of his messages, especially these latest ones ("Where is Christ since his personal days in the flesh") being played in tandem with Mr. Brisby's, is that he strayed from his concept of what the Church/Body of Christ is when he preached on it in the early '70s versus what he preached in the last decade of his life about it. Clearly, the exit of certain men just prior to these messages and other ones had a direct impact on how he viewed what the Church had become. I personally do not believe it is something he did on purpose, but clearly, it was not a biblical move. What he taught in the '70s concerning the Church/Body of Christ is Biblical, which is easily substantiated.
For example, in a number of early '70s articles and messages, it can be read and heard that the Church is a spiritual organism made up of many members and that they are not all in one organization per se, but are scattered. Now we hear as we head into the '90s, that the Church is one organization, and this is supported by saying that Christ is not schizophrenic, that members would not be elsewhere in other organizations. Thus one is led to believe that the Church of God, The Eternal is the place to be and no other. Why? Primarily because of the keeping of a Monday Pentecost and their teaching on D&R. We can whittle it down to at least one unique doctrine which is Pentecost, but there are many groups that do still preach that Divorce and Remarriage is wrong regardless of what the current pastor tries to get his listeners to believe about them. I understand now why Mr. Brisby is playing these messages along with his current ones because they substantiate his corrupt teaching.
Ask yourself, if you have been told that Tares will exist among the faithful till the end, does it make any sense that all other groups are tares or apostates? Or, is it possible that there are some of God's faithful mingling in all of these other "splinter groups" unaware of any changes ever made in WWCG (especially among the younger generations) that God is clearly working with? Of course, it is. It is also possible that even if they have heard that a Monday Pentecost was once taught, that they may never come to the understanding of it. Does that mean God was not working with them all the way up until the end? Of course not, unless you want to put limits on God. This same conclusion can be made with those attending COGTE. Not one of us is perfect, but the ONLY way to know who a TRUE Christian is, is by their fruits. Are we really dumb enough to think someone is going to get into the kingdom over someone else because they kept a Monday and the other did not, yet their character was more flawed than the one keeping a Sunday?
I think every one of those brethren over there in COGTE needs to seriously go back to the drawing board (the Bible), and re-examine some things...seriously.
The Devil loves fast Cars. He sounds like a worldly Pastor having a great time . Your foolish to obey his odd ball ideas.
The words Mr. Brisby speaks are directly from Christ himself. There is nothing oddball about anything he teaches. Christ is in our midst when he speaks. How awesome is that! We should be eternally grateful that God loves us so much that he sends Mr. Brisby to declare the end-time message of hope. Christ is in and controls Mr. Brisby. I have confidence in that.
August 20, 2021 at 11:50 PM
Show me the fruits? The Gospel message is to believe in Christ, and to love others. Your group don't love others but looks down on those that don't keep Church of God The Eternal belief's. You all must learn Christ! Love Others inside your group and those on the outside! Really Sad that your all so swollen in pride high and might without loving corrections. Your Leader is very Dangerous" . He thinks he speaks as Jesus Christ. Your Bible Warns about the man of Sin acting like God. Follow your Bible not men claiming The Authority of Christ. Jon Must be threatened by the Word's Of Jesus Christ.
Paul said of this person: Jon Brisby ?
“He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God” (verse 4). What did Paul mean by “the temple”? Was it the physical temple in Jerusalem, or was he speaking of the church, which he called “God’s temple” (1 Corinthians 3:16-17)? Satan, the great Dragon, in his character as a deceiver, as a destroyer inside the Church?
forte illusion, qu'ils devraient croire à un mensonge. Jon Lies et le diable plus loin. suivez le diable et vos aveugles. Aveugle à la révélation Prophétie à la fin des temps.
Je me souviens que Jon a dit que nous sommes allés en Afghanistan et avons gagné la guerre. Ouai, bien sur
Jon Brisby say you can get a divorce if it is over money now if you are his friend of his, everyone else has to follow the rules.
Your Church are willfully ignorant of the facts. It is God who gave Britain and then America their power in the first place. It is God whom the British and the Americans have turned their backs on. And it is God who is allowing Britain and America to decline and who is actively punishing us in order to show us our sins. Jon hates those revealing prophecies . We Lost the War in Afghanistan. We are broken. Repent turn around you people. Get Back to prophecies that Jesus gave HWA. So sad you reject God.
Fear Not the World . British Israelism was never apart of The faith that was once for all delivered to our Church. We follow Cole Not Herbert W. Armstrong he got those things from British Israelism. Only Mr.Brisby can show us the correct sure word of prophecy. Jesus will teach all we need to know and understand through a spokesman. Only Mr. Brisby can speak for Jesus on this earth. We reject those Old end time unsure word's of prophesy.
Today we focus upon Christ living in the form of a man. Jesus continually refers to himself as the "Son of Man. That Sun Never sets upon the people of God. Today that Man and Son work in our Church.
July 17, 2021 at 2:01 AM Yes exactly my thought's . Most know that Cole made a huge error” He lost the context and wanted to be different. Clear departure and error. Jesus left us back then and we are looking for another group.
Direction by the Director He went astray. Moses also made One mistake. That outcome was?
The old days check this page out . https://www.cogeternal.org/text/007whymondaypentecost.htm
Bring back the rainbow that was a sure sign.
Mr. Brisby should understand that when he meddles in individual marriages such as this young couple recently, he will be held accountable. God does not stand for that kind of divisiveness. If anyone is awake over there, it should be apparent that this man is divisive. He meddles, then blows things out of proportion more than they should be, therefore stirring up everyone else and dividing them against one another. Who does this? Satan. This man has been there to whittle the church down, not bring new sons and daughters to God. The marriage he speaks of in 2008-2009 in his recent message he meddled in as well, and I know that man and woman kept every email including recorded phone calls, he should be cautious of what he boasts about lest those get released because he told the brethren about 30 percent of the truth regarding their situation.
He boasts of having all of the emails from this young lady recently as if that's some kind of weapon to hold the brethren at bay from asking questions and speaking to one another about it, which they have the Biblical right to. Mr. Cole even said so regardless of what Brisby says. Listen to what Raymond says is your duty when issues concerning hearsay come up in the church. Listen to the audio clip on "hearsay" on the homepage of www.afaithfulservant .com and you will see that it flys in the face of what Brisby is claiming. Ask yourself, is it Godly to air people's problems, especially marital problems out over the internet, let alone to other brethren? One, he is gossiping, and two, is he not supposed to "cover sins" rather than expose them? Brethren over there, you need to get your Biblical thinking caps on, read your Bible for what it says, and walk out on this man. Sit in your living room and congregate as a small cohesive group and figure out what your next move is because this man is working by the spirit of Satan and he is doing nothing but seeking to divide you. His messages scream proof of that.
The rainbow flag you see is a symbol of lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender (LGBT) and queer pride and LGBT social movements. Those hijackers made our Church Change the old rainbow symbol. Raymond Cole would never allowed us to “caving under pressure by those Homersexuals.
Our Church is under strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false. Jon for some time now is really abdominal. After many Years he now, wishes to come out after the actual events which transpired and Blow his little bad boy whistle. Son of man, prophesy concerning shepherds of Israel, prophesy, and thou hast said unto them. Woe be unto the pastors that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture! saith the LORD. let God be true, but every man a liar. You all must act and refuse to listen to gossip by any Pastor. Do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God. Now we have itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths. I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles. Every way of a man is right in his own eyes, but the Lord weighs the heart's. You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.
Well said. This describes what is happening with their pastor to a T.
Jon can speak all the lies he wants to. Jon agreed to do the wedding service then changed his mind because the family refused to invite one of or both of the Litz brothers. Further Jon didn't like the fact that the family refused to take Bill McCammon a man the family had known for decades off the invitation list. Bottom line is if it isn't done Jon's way he throws a temper tantrum and starts to throw accusations around so as to get the brethren to side with him. Childish behavior at best. God looks to a man who keeps his word even to his own hurt. Jon did not. Jon tried to bully the mother of the bride and the engaged couple. Thank God they stood up to Jon. These days it seem very rare to find brethren who put these Nicoliatines in their place. If they don't speak and behave according to these words we are not to fear them. Folks that means do not follow them. What a sad state of affairs these corporate churches with their Nicoliatine leaders have brought about.
He is a professional liar. The corporate world taught him how to act and his motivation isn’t Jesus. The Devil is a master of light which in fact are lies. Be careful folks don’t sit and allow yourself to be poisoned by non factual information. He should call a church wide fast both here and the international churches around the world. We all need to repent all are guilty in these matters. Marriage is sacred and no pastor should be entangled in mans law of the land. He needs to obey the laws of our nation. To go against those man made laws which are instituted by governments is Sin. We are to be subject to taxes and also other laws including marriage. God hates our stiff neck selfish ideas. The love of money is root of all evils. Satan opening the doors inside our fellowship because Jon isn’t taking Jesus Christ seriously. All need to repent or our fellowship will soon fold. Declining members from frustration neglect and wrong judgments are the results the pastor. He controllers every aspect. Were is the counsel of elders? In a multitude of elders counselling could be achieved appropriately. I urge all to stand up and be counted for Godly Fear. Why do those two brothers sit idle and not act? Only a matter of time before another group is formed and organised with the same Doctrine’s we had under Raymond Cole. Brisby has gone too far .
Jon Brisby similarity?
Moses did as the Lord instructed but added two flourishes of his own. First he rebuked the people, saying, “Listen, you rebels, shall we bring water for you out of this rock?” Then he struck the rock twice with his staff. Water poured out in abundance (Num. 20:9-11), but the Lord was extremely displeased with Moses .
Moses’ leadership faltered in the crucial moment when he stopped trusting God and started acting on his own impulses. Jon Brisby impulses are clear to all.
We must be careful not to mistake our authority for God’s.
Such a state of sinful independence, such a rebellion of the laws Give back to Caesar what is Caesar’s . Do not be amazed at me. God has “minted” the human soul, and He has stamped His image on every one (Genesis 1:27). So give Caesar his due—the temporary stuff of this world—but make sure to give God His due: “Offer yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life; and offer every part of yourself to him as an instrument of righteousness” (Romans 6:13
I’m an instrument of Jon’s. His tunes are out of sync.
Corrupting marriage his own advice The divorce process . In the event of separation, each remains the sole owner of their assets. Jon you should and do know better.
What’s happening over there?
Jon is sticking his nose in where it doesn't belong is whats happening over there, but that is nothing new. This is the second marriage he has meddled in with disastrous results.
I don't know when the brethren over there are going to stand and be counted. When do the scales get stripped from the eyes to see the spirit working in Jon?
A man made a comment prior to this about how Jon brought the corporate business model into the church and he is correct. Lying and division. Pitting one against another so that each watches the other and reports back or either looks upon others with disdain. People, you have to get it together over there.
I remember years ago about a member who had spoke directly to his wife Kim and they were discussing why Jon no longer worked in the field he did prior to becoming a minister. She just said it was something that Jon had done that got him into trouble, thus losing his job. We now see the fruits of that behavior in the church.
Is God Blessing America and Britain?
https://www.thetrumpet.com/24537-is-god-blessing-america-and-britain
I think God was blessing us, but that protection seems to have been removed judging by the rapid decline we have experienced in the last two years.
Bead Sermons what next fanny length. Grow up little childish you know who’s.
Beard Trimmers vibrate. The Devil love's those cool tech gadget's. Hand Shavers just another Temptations. Men need Beards.
Feast temptations. Husbands love your Wife’s check there festive bags at feast site. You might be surprised to find hair brushes shavers gadgets.
GCI is also purchasing a building in Eugene, Oregon.
The Board also recently approved the purchase of a church facility in Eugene, Oregon, where GCI started in the early 1900s. We will help those poor sheep in Eugene.
Brisby lies . His own hymnal in his Church fraudulent imitation of the origin or beginning under HWA, He Seeks an attention mechanism relating to oneself. Jon's Works are not inspired. Our Feast Music and hymnal are so far out of tune. I would like to earnestly contend for the one below. I refused to Sing the One Dedicated to Raymond Cole. Cole would Never like any person to sing a song about himself.
https://www.ccog.org/bible-hymnal.pdf
I agree ☝️. If other groups can do it we should too.
Jon proclaims copy Right stop him from publishing the Original hymnal . I thought we were to hold fast the Original tradition and faith. He picks and chooses to himself. God isn’t happy with our voices it’s shameful and terrible sounds. Mourning and moan this feast I noticed.
The Living Church up the road sound's Nice. Here in Philippines CGE voices to our church song book not good. We need the old Song Book that Armstrong approved and His Brother was Blessed to Write.1
Personally I'd pay more attention to Jons speculations and man-made commandments that he is trying to pass off as God's word (Doctrines), rather than songs and song books. One is salvational you if you stay, listen, and practice the corruption. The other is not.
American Standard Version
So then, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye were taught, whether by word, or by epistle of ours.2 Thessalonians 2:15.
The old Song Hymnal was one of those special traditions worth fighting for. One Book was Inspired the other Not.
As a matter of controversy would not the Bible state to persevere the Inspired writings?
We only need to obey Jon . When Jesus shows Jon the time to flee into place of Protection we need to listen. Jesus rules inside his mind body. We all can see Jesus at this Festival of food doing a work. Our Church has grown this year here in the states many new faces. I really enjoy unconstrained conversation this feast.
In God's eyes the Hymnal would be not having the correct pitch it's like woefully out of tune at the feast. Our Music will not flow in tune it's really unpleasant. Herbert Armstrong had God's own Hymnal we have a shocker.
If the church is growing, then why did Jon from the pulpit this Feast of Tabernacles say that membership is dwindling?
Our 2021 festival has been the best yet. Many Tares and weeds removed. Peace and Joy to be apart of Jon's flock. We know Jesus is upon Jon . When he deliver feast sermon all can see Christ's course of action in spirit.
Interesting. That's not what I'm hearing from people there at all. In fact, from Jons own mouth, he is teaching that divorce is okay. See his latest message on ministerial judgements. Interesting how he crys long and hard about upholding the D&R doctrine, but he is okay with teaching that one half of it is okay to do. Tell you what, that Satan sure is a clever fellow and a hypocrite at that. How long will they continue to listen? Not much longer I'm sure.
Our Pastor with his dishonest schemes must stand down Immediately. The cat is out of the luggage. Feast Conversations this year show a deep troubled mind's among most brothers and sisters. Jon really did become a man of sin sitting in the Church.
Many Tares and weeds removed really? Or maybe you should say He Cast them out of His Church. Jon's only true profession is acting on the stage, and he seems like a good guy. Satan and his Ministers are hard at work.
Yes if your a good friend of Jon's or Kim that is your ticket and divorce is okay. Jon has many tickets and he can pull a cat out of a bag to allow you to Sin.
God will Send Solar storms, Earthquakes, to get Jon's attention Soon.
Feast of Tabernacles 2021: The Consummation of Biblical Prophecy
Must Hear
https://members.lcg.org/sermons/feast-tabernacles-2021-consummation-biblical-prophecy
God requires and measuring
ourselves against the yardstick . All ten slumbered and slept we sleep today.
Shut up Lies, deception, all of the the trickery that this blog employs is Satan
What the hell??? This thread is like Seinfeld. A thread about nothing, because it's about a nobody who leads a micro-splinter.
Brisby teaches that divorce is okay now. It will not be long before remarrying will be okay. Of course he will come up with some reason "from on high" to justify it. Stick around, and you can date one of the 3 ladies left over there.
we need feeding or we will just be like Church in the Wilderness .
3 ladies left over there sill dress in denim jeans.
Christ said that the time has come already that the father seeks those who will worship him in spirit and in truth. Nothing about in an appointed building. Open the Word and God will feed you. Brisby stopped a long time ago.
No real increase at attendance in our fellowship. Most are forsaking Church. What is the real reason for this ? It certainly feels like Christ has left congregation. We need a zeal . Sad to hear many no longer attend the international congregations around the world. What has caused this departure?
The answer to your question lies within the man at the pulpit...JB. A church dies as does its membership when the Holy Spirit is choked of by the words being taught. You cannot teach that it is okay to curse people when they are not doing what you like. You cannot teach people that the book of Revelation is irrelevant when it is not. Not one word must be added or removed regardless of a man's clever explanations. You cannot teach that divorce is okay as long as it is for financial reasons, meaning a mate taking off with your bank account. No clever explanations can be advanced in the eyes of God. What He has put together, let NO MAN tear apart, and that means by any means. This list goes on.
Brisby has taught all of this error and more. Mark my words, this organization just as Bethel did, will come to not. What is sad, is I do not really think many of the brethren are ready for it, or even understand what to do when it does happen. Will they forsake all? Will some hold on to the truth? Will some finally understand that they do have brethren in other congregations, and that it is okay to convoke and fellowship with them. If they would dust off their Bibles, much will be revealed, but it does take effort.
The big problem I see is brethren having faith in what HWA and his organization called the faith once delivered. HWA and his brethren had many many errors. They don't understand how they observe the same timing of holy days as do the Jews. If you observe the Jewish times of meeting with God then why not observe their timing of Passover? They can't even get the correct night for Passover. Simple answer is the Jewish religion has all the timing wrong and so do brethren who follow such. Christ observed the new moon and the reports of the new moon from Jerusalem. That is when and how he set His observance of holy days as it has always been from the beginning. For those brethren who want to know the truth I suggest going to Abib of God.com website and see for yourself. Folks the Faith Once Delivered is what Christ taught His apostles not what HWA taught his followers. Father and Christ are opening the eyes of many of their servants to the times of meeting they require of us. This and the command John gave us to love one another are two watershed doctrines of the end time. As Christ stated knowledge shall increase. I hope this helps many brothers and sisters in the faith.
One thing brothers and sisters we should not be doing is running around waving our fingers in our brethren face over slight disagreements. My previous post I brought up the disagreements that come up over the timing of observance of times of meeting with our Father and our Master. This should in no way be an excuse used to deny fellowship on the weekly sabbath or used to avoid brethren in general. I fellowship with many who disagree with me over the Abib Calendar to me it is not an issue that I let the devil use to cause divisions. I attended a group from Eugene OR years ago and personally saw brethren scared to death over just seeing me in the same restaurant. They would not even look in my direction and ran like little scared mice until I approached their table and spoke up. The minister got up and talked to me then the brethren did the same. The moral of the story is this the minister had his little flock scared to death of me till he greeted me. Folks never let another man or woman rule over your better senses wether that person claims a title or not. Only Father and Christ have that authority. Want an example how about when Paul rebuked Peter and his fellows over their foolish behavior. He did so in front of all involved. Learn to act like Paul as he followed Christ.
We should all take Proverbs 31 to heart and practice. This has been called the resume of the bride of Christ. Look at the devotion that this lady has to her immediate family as well as those under the roof of her household. This is the attitude needed by us all brethren. Further have an attitude of real love and caring to all those around us called or not at this time in history. Times are becoming more evil day by day. The attitude Proverbs 31 presents actually the whole book of Proverbs is a wonderful place to learn the ways of Father and Christ. No one needs a title to do a good work. Don't put the work on anothers shoulder step up and refine those skills you have that will help others.
our church has shown 40% new growth we are blessed. Increasing in size IS A SURE SIGN WE ARE THE TRUE HOLY ONES
The true facts are your little fairy tale church declined. Those Fruits cannot be eaten, Every Tree is known by it's fruits
Now just wait to hear sermons on Tithes soon. 45 sermons of brain bashing your minds.
Jon said sex is good for us and that's real fruit for the youth right?
Yes Brisby cast Christ out of the Church. Now we must follow the Lamb . Will you follow Jon or Christ? — The resultant danger of hero worship or creature worship has been long a threat to true worshipers in your bibles. Jon now speaking twisted things. Here in the states our bro/sis are real lawless ones nice Mr Cole's Death.
It is IMPOSSIBLE for Jon to speak "twisted" things!!!! Christ literally dwells in him and speaks through him!
"Jon said sex is good for us and that's real fruit for the youth right?"
It's not only the youth getting turned on by sexy Jon, many women are too! His too-tight suits produce a sight to behold! Yummers!
Don't know what your smoking. Ottercrest Feast site, like 50 people. Townsend, TN, like 90. I think what you meant to say, is that they are decreased by %40 and dwindling further.
Your silly. Nice trying to distract from the apostasy going on over there with your dribble. I give that church 5 to 10 years tops before it's dissolved. A so-called minister cannot continue to speak error and tell lies before God allows it to come to not. Frankly, I'm surprised it's lasted this long under his leadership, if that's what you call it.
The two witnesses, shall prophesy. Jon Shall say unto you there false witnesses. But those two witnesses will say Jon, See not,” and to the prophets, “Prophesy not unto us right things; speak unto us smooth things; prophesy deceits.
Jon Brisby must end his own deceits.
Maybe this is the falling away, I see a real apostasy, a spiritual departure from the faith under Jon. Brisby has cast the baby out with the bath water .His own Abandonment of the truth and betrayal to the original faith under Herbert W Armstrong could = man of lawlessness. This Man is a Law unto himself. Antichrist will tell you not to follow or listen to prophecy. But we need to hear the testimony of Jesus which is the spirit of prophecy. Believe not every spirit, but try the spirits . When you Test and try Jon Brisby he should answer your Questions. BE ready always to give an answer to every man who asketh you a reason for the hope that is in you, with meekness and fear 1 Peter 3:15. Always be ready to explain it.
What those are witnessing in COGTE, is what happens to a man when arrogance takes over completely. I saw this manifested and evolving in Jon during my time there. What I have read, heard, and seen since is very reminiscent of Satan's behavior when he fell.
Jon first started years ago with advancing speculation about things in the Bible, or what he thought may have happened back in WWCG. Nothing more than that really. Things to ponder like we all do. That speculation over time evolved into his version of the truth or doctrine. His speech was such that if you challenged it, you would be challenging God. Currently, he has been corrupting doctrine by tainting half of it and then trying to pawn it off to the brethren with some type of convoluted reasoning. For example, he now teaches that it is okay to divorce, but says nothing about re-marrying. Again, he gives convoluted reasoning for this. He now teaches that the book of Revelation is not required for our salvation, even though it is filled with details about it. Again, he gives convoluted reasoning for this.
I want everyone reading this to understand that Jon is doing nothing more than what Satan did to Eve in the garden. He is speaking half-truths to get them to walk in error against God. The pattern over a number of years has been one of conditioning. My suspicion is that Jon himself does not realize what he is doing. He most likely believes he is right. Deception by our arch-enemy Lucifer will do this. I say to the brethren over there, if you have ears to hear, then hear. Do not be afraid of what your next move may have to be. God does not forsake us if we follow him.
I truly pray for all those stuck in these awful Churches of God. I once was. It truly saddens me how the COGs blind and in many cases are blinded themselves.
Pray and Pay. $$$$ money money it's a rich man's World.
Our Pastor filled with Jesus. Jesus Works on earth today in a man. Hear him that voice is Jesus talking today, We all must follow Jon because we are silly sheep and need to hear Christ.
Jon is not a silly sheep . That man is Christ in flesh!!!!
Crazy concept he ain’t Jesus and Jesus isn’t in his flesh whatsoever. He needs to be Christ. The fruit suggest other wise. He has reformed Cole’s teachings beyond his own mind. His imaginations are based upon his own concept’s not the Original teachings. The Devil comes bringing light and changes to confuse those that are listing. Faith once delivered seriously all these sermons are in the Bible? Show me ? We ain’t dumb sheep or are we ? Silly, more need to recover themselves out of his wild ideas. Jon’s Book about Armstrong ain’t so correct. He added and changed hymnal and we now sing a song dedicated to a man . Cole wouldn’t like us to sing about him I can assure you that. Change’s what changes yea right common don’t fool yourselves. Satan is inside the church doing his walking to and fro with every wind of doctrines of men. Let the blind follow the blind . Blind Sheep need to open there own eyes. Most don’t really read there own books Bibles at home let alone open there eyes. Blind Church. God help them and may the sheep escape from false teachings
Brisby hasn’t changed one teaching. He continued the line of true Authority given by Christ. We must accept his teachings as coming from Christ. Listen and feed upon Jon’s sermons. I look upon our Pastor as being Christ himself. All must come to recognise and accept that. When anyone refuted Jon he will curse them be careful. Don’t speak again the Lord’s anointed. Get your mindset off all prophecies because those things are not required for eternal life. Our little fellowship lives by every word apart from the book of revelation. It’s simple too hard to understand or comprehend. I support Jon and he must be respected as Christ living among us.
fruit loops over there, All have lost it!
When we asked Questions our pastor said that A questioning spirit, and a spirit of doubt, is not of God. Never ask Questions folks you will be seen and looked upon as a Demon. When you ask your now influenced by Satan , so i was told! Hates Questions Hates the truth.
Yeah, he doesn't like questions, and he doesn't like modern day Bereans. How dare you search the scriptures to see if something is true, and then ask questions. It is the quickest way to get marked by him. Trust me, I know.
I have a Question ? Eating sugar is Sin ? How can you make beer without any sugar? When Brisby can into our home he said having sugar in my Coffee amount to Spiritual Sin.
(Brisby has a Law about Sugar)
Accept other believers who are weak in faith, and don’t argue with them about what they think is right or wrong. Mark 7:19
because it does not enter his heart, but it goes into the stomach and then is eliminated." (Thus all foods are clean.) Thus your Pastor has not fulfilled the Law but is weak in faith, Know that a person is not justified by the works of the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the law, because by the works of the law no one will be justified” (Galatians 2:16).
The Purpose of God’s Prophecies;
Prophecy That Matters #1
Jon W. Brisby; Townsend, TN., 9-20-2021
Jesus Would say False prophets and false teachers are also those who attempt to change the God-given and scripturally based doctrines that protect the sanctity of marriage, the divine nature of the family, and the essential doctrine of personal morality. Don't cover up Sin's !
because by the works of the law no one will be justified , He speed's above the law so his justified speedy,free Willy
I'm very shocked Jon is the Only Person to Benefit financially. His Wages are not Christian. Jesus said, “Sell your possessions, and give to the needy. Works needed for Salvation. Jon will be saddened by these words and he goes away in sorrow.
https://www.guidestar.org/profile/23-7444804
Jon don't like THE UNITED STATES and BRITISH COMMONWEALTH in Prophecy book why not?
why not?
Probably because he has his own ideas based on his version of the faith once delivered. If you hadn't noticed, he has interjected his own ideas as doctrines over the years. Bless and curse people. The white throne judgment, the book of revelation, changing D & R, and many others. He is a prophet unto himself.
He is not a prophet unto himself. He is successor to Mr.Cole and was personally appointed . Mr.Cole spoke about Jon as His Joshua. Christ gave Jon authority over the Wife or Church. Jesus speaks unto us by true authority. Jesus has given new truth and now those administrative and formal judgments are passed down to Mr Brisby.
He is not a prophet unto himself. He is successor to Mr.Cole and was personally appointed . Mr.Cole spoke about Jon as His Joshua. Christ gave Jon authority over the Wife or Church. Jesus speaks unto us by true authority. Jesus has given new truth and now those administrative and formal judgments are passed down to Mr Brisby.
Well that makes sense just like Kim Jong-un
The moderator on this blog needs help. I think your desperately sick and you should be ashamed of your 💩. Mr Brisby should be loved 🥰 Respect ✊ .
The brethren are tired. Spiritually they are drained and have been feeling unfed for a very long time now .
we need feeding or we will just be like Church in the Wilderness . Many of our dear bro/Sis have left from what i hear. My Question were have those gone?
Because the cost of food, housing, utilities and other goods as well as petrol ⛽️ no left over cash to tithe with. When you stop giving money your seen as a burden by the Pastor. I feel like donating to the people on the streets . Those need it more than a church doing nothing with god’s money. How is the rest of the membership feeling?
We follow the works of Jon he is our inspiration. We have a type of Jesus among us . Follow him only.
His a little childish. Both need to grow up and follow the Christian Bible. He lives under old control systems.
He hasn’t show much transparency of late. The office Operations have become desperate. Few I know have changed in attitude’s. I sense the mighty dollar is drying up . Those staff will soon be unemployed if you continue listening to a man that’s over ambitious.
stressed no place to go!!!!
Unfortunately, I have had my dealings with the man who heads up this organization. The lady who wrote the piece for this post is correct in her assessment of his character. At first, he is kind, cordial, etc..., but then begins to exude arrogance. If you get on his bad side, he is a totally different animal. Many times he has stated that he will always win when it comes to anything that arises in his church. I have seen this happen first-hand many times when he is in complete error. Some who may read this that attend there may think they have never seen this behavior, but they have. They have just not scratched far enough below the surface to see and choose to look the other way. Fear is a powerful motivator sometimes to keep people doing nothing. Afterall, have not many been indoctrinated to believe that the minister is always right, even though the Bible tells us contrary?
Since the time this man took the reigns in 2001 from Raymond Cole, there has been much error. My suggestion to any brethren currently attending there that is reading this post, if you have any doubts about anything that has come up during your time there; go back and revisit old material (letters, audio, etc...), and compare it the word of God. You were called and baptized. You have a measure of the Holy Spirit, and my Bible tells me that you have the ability to distinguish right from wrong.
Just because a group keeps a specific Holy Day different from others, is not a requirement to stay in an organization if there is error. Nowhere in your Bible will you find that requirement. You are however, tasked with knowing what is wrong, and what is right. His Wife will not serve or help others. She's preoccupied with oneself and one's affairs. Youth Camps in past years no good example set cooking, Cleaning, A wife is called to be her husband’s helper. The pastor’s wife is not a conduit for the congregation to send suggestions or criticisms to the pastor. Open your eyes people.
Brisby tells a few you can get a divorce if it is over money now if you are his friend of his, everyone else has to follow the rules. Our Church is hypocritical. Cry aloud, spare not; Lift up your voice like a trumpet; Tell My people their transgression, And the house of Jacob their sins. ... “Cry loudly, do not hold back Isaiah 58:1. Do the Same Cry aloud lift up thy voice like a trumpet, With One Voice our Church can be Saved from error.
Wrong Friday, January 14, 2022 at 3:23:00 PM PST.
Jesus prayed that His Church would be kept ONE in the Father's name. "Holy Father, KEEP THROUGH THINE OWN NAME those whom thou hast given me, that they may be ONE, as we are (John 17:11. This Church Never will use the Father's Name. All you hear is the Son Not the Fathers name. FOR THOU HAST A LITTLE STRENGTH, AND HAST KEPT MY WORD AND HAST NOT DENIED MY NAME" (Rev. 3:8). Remember, our fellowship is WITH THE FATHER, AND WITH JESUS CHRIST. No Father No Son No true Church. Ministers are God's bond-servants and the shepherds of the flock . It is time to WAKE UP! If you become complacent, lacking in zeal, looking upon a local church as a social club, instead of having your heart in the gospel, you, too, may find yourself in the "Church of Laodicea" left to suffer the impending, horrifying tribulation.
The Ring of Fire, Watch Watch Watch
Yes that’s right I’m astonished. I never thought about it up until you mentioned that interesting topic.
All those criticizing Mr. Brisby are agents of Satan trying to stop the word of God from going forth. God the Father has sent Jesus to dwell within Mr. Brisby so that the words he speaks glorify the Father and herald the Kingdom of God. We obey our Pastor only. He can never be wrong! Have faith, follow him only!
We are not criticizing. We just want the truth and not False doctrine which contradicts, or nullifies the doctrine given to Herbert W. Armstrong.
Mosaic law also adds the dietary restrictions against eating pork . Why are you trying to be under Mosaic Law ? Pick up your Bibles and Read about the next day as the three travelers were approaching the town, Peter went out on the balcony to pray. It was about noon. Peter got hungry and started thinking about lunch. While lunch was being prepared, he fell into a trance. He saw the skies open up. Something that looked like a huge blanket lowered by ropes at its four corners settled on the ground. Every kind of animal and reptile and bird you could think of was on it. Then a voice came: “Go to it, Peter—kill and eat.”
Ask yourself the Questions .
1) Does God Lie ?
2) will he make you feel tempted?
James 1:13- And remember, when you are being tempted, do not say, “God is tempting me.” God is never tempted to do wrong, and he never tempts anyone else.
For Many years I would not eat Pork, sea food's because I felt dirty in mind . But after reading the bible and trusting it in Faith . It's clear to me Paul and James both in fact eventually lost their lives as a direct result of the civil unrest generated by charges of apostasy. For instance, one person believes it’s all right to eat anything. But another believer with a sensitive conscience will eat only vegetables. Romans 14:1
Accept him whose faith is weak, without passing judgment on his opinions. Romans 14:14
I am convinced and fully persuaded in the Lord Jesus that nothing is unclean in itself. But if anyone regards something as unclean, then for him it is unclean. Romans 14:20
Do not destroy the work of God for the sake of food. All food is clean, but it is wrong for a man to let his eating be a stumbling block. And let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him. Both in Christ are free to eat or not to eat. Faith IS the Key According to your faith, Now you know the truth and let it set your mind Free.
Even today in the Churches of so called God when they read Moses’ writings, their hearts are covered with that veil, and they do not understand. WORK PROHIBITED ON THE SABBATH, Bearing burdens Jer. 17:19–27. Many burdens are on your mind's . Paul’s letters that the Sabbath is not binding upon believers. In Colossians Paul identifies the Sabbath as a shadow along with requirements regarding foods, festivals, and the new moon (Col. 2:16–17. If one argues that the Sabbath is required for salvation, such a teaching is contrary to the gospel and should be resisted forcefully. In any case, Paul makes it clear in both Romans 14:5 and Colossians 2:16–17 that the Sabbath has passed away now that Christ has come. Jesus observed the Sabbath because he was a Jew, obliged from birth to obey the Law of Moses. (Galatians 4:4) After Jesus died, this Law covenant—including the Sabbath—was taken away.—Colossians 2:13, 14. Who are those that observing days and months and seasons and years? The fact that Jesus kept the sabbath does not mean he set the example for Christians to keep it. It was necessary for him to observe it because he was born under the law covenant, and until he fulfilled it by his sacrificial death he was obliged to keep all the Law. If Christians should keep the sabbath because he did, then they must also keep the entire Law as he did, Do you keep all the Law? Those things are a shadow of the things to come, but the reality belongs to the Christ.” Weekly sabbath observance belonged to the nation of Israel and is of the past. Christians are not living in the past but are living for the future when Christ’s 1,000-year reign, which was pictured by the sabbath, will bring rest and peace to obedient mankind. Instead of observing a weekly sabbath, they look forward to this great sabbath rest under the “Lord of the sabbath.”—Matt. 12:8.Very clearly the Scriptures state that God through Christ made an end to the Law. (Eph. 2:14-18; Col. 2:13, 14) Some persons claim that God made an end only to the so-called ceremonial law, but not to the Decalogue. But there is no Scriptural warrant for such a separation. In his Sermon on the Mount, Jesus quoted from both the Decalogue and then further support of this, note the inspired words appearing at Romans 7:4-12. There we read that Christians “were made dead to the Law through the body of the Christ,” and, as a result, they “have been discharged from the Law.” From what Law? From only the so-called ceremonial law? Not at all, for the inspired writer goes on to quote from the Decalogue, “You must not covet,” showing that by “Law” he meant not only the so-called ceremonial law, but the entire law given through Moses, including the Ten Commandments. Ceremonial features of the Law and made no distinction between them.—Matt. 5:21-42. In further support of this, note the inspired words appearing at Romans 7:4-12. There we read that Christians “were made dead to the Law through the body of the Christ,” and, as a result, they “have been discharged from the Law.” From what Law? From only the so-called ceremonial law? Not at all, for the inspired writer goes on to quote from the Decalogue, “You must not covet,” showing that by “Law” he meant not only the so-called ceremonial law, but the entire law given through Moses, including the Ten Commandments.
The Pattern of the Grapes: Part 3 love the paint on your nails, Not.
we must love Law! God's way of Life is Law. We follow Jon he has been given Jesus Laws.
The Nippers Way of Life it's ok no law for our Pastor. Those kids of his loved Surf Club here Eugene, Oregon . Law???? C'mon
Sabbath Day , Our Church allows surf sports. It's fine .
He is a professional liar. The corporate world taught him how to act and his motivation isn’t Jesus. The Devil is a master of light which in fact are lies. Be careful folks don’t sit and allow yourself to be poisoned by non factual information. He should call a church wide fast both here and the international churches around the world. We all need to repent all are guilty in these matters. Marriage is sacred and no pastor should be entangled in mans law of the land. He needs to obey the laws of our nation. To go against those man made laws which are instituted by governments is Sin. We are to be subject to taxes and also other laws including marriage. God hates our stiff neck selfish ideas. The love of money is root of all evils. Satan opening the doors inside our fellowship because Jon isn’t taking Jesus Christ seriously. All need to repent or our fellowship will soon fold. Declining members from frustration neglect and wrong judgments are the results the pastor. He controllers every aspect. Were is the counsel of elders? In a multitude of elders counselling could be achieved appropriately. I urge all to stand up and be counted for Godly Fear. Why do those two brothers sit idle and not act? Only a matter of time before another group is formed and organised with the same Doctrine’s we had under Raymond Cole. Brisby has gone too far .
Video falsely cover up. He will deceive You.
Just What Do You Mean
Faith Once Delivered #49
January 8, 2021
Jon W. Brisby.
Isaiah 5:20
Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who turn darkness to light and light to darkness, who replace bitter with sweet and sweet with bitter.
Jeremiah 6:13,14
For from the least of them even unto the greatest of them every one is given to covetousness; and from the prophet even unto the priest every one dealeth falsely…
Brisby said Ican get a divorce if it is over money now if you are his friend of his, everyone else has to follow the rules. So friend to have.
on is sticking his nose in where it doesn't belong is whats happening over there, but that is nothing new. This is the second marriage he has meddled in with disastrous results.
I don't know when the brethren over there are going to stand and be counted. When do the scales get stripped from the eyes to see the spirit working in Jon?
A man made a comment prior to this about how Jon brought the corporate business model into the church and he is correct. Lying and division. Pitting one against another so that each watches the other and reports back or either looks upon others with disdain. People, you have to get it together over there.
I remember years ago about a member who had spoke directly to his wife Kim and they were discussing why Jon no longer worked in the field he did prior to becoming a minister. She just said it was something that Jon had done that got him into trouble, thus losing his job. We now see the fruits of that behavior in the church.
Brisby teaches that divorce is okay now. It will not be long before remarrying will be okay. Of course he will come up with some reason "from on high" to justify it. Stick around, and you can date one of the 3 ladies left over there
In the corporate world, Jon called it a "Matrix Organization", something he witnessed firsthand. This is a structure set up within an organization where the bosses have everyone watching each other and reporting back. He said this in a sermon prior to 2010 I believe. If I'm not mistaken, it was the "venues of authority" series. Ironically in his narcissism, he has seen fit to emplement this within the congregation. What has it gotten him? Turmoil, division, strife. All of the things a minister is NOT supposed to be involved in. The end is coming for that group soon. I pray my friends there can hold it together, even if it means standing alone.
Kandice here Jon is very bad news, His Church is a loving dictatorship. He with his absolute power acts as a friend to (ALL) by offering help or support then he will turn on you like a double-hearted twister. I pray for him daily. Don't allow him to despitefully use you. His maliciously works have been made-known. His Psychological Mind Control need's to be exposed. I left this Cult. Hope you all can too.
Kandice your not allowed to come back into our Church. Jon said you like tarot cards, Satan's Works.
Hey dumb dumb, your church is about to dissolve, no fault of Kandice or any other member over there asking questions right now. When a man out of blinding arrogance has allowed himself to be deceived, deceives the brethren, God will see it come to not. It has taken a number of years, but nothing happens overnight. Brethren have just had to wake up slowly, and they are.
Dissolve really we have grown fast . Mr.Brisby said a few day's ago God blessed us with growth in Europe, Asia, Australia. Here in the states competitiveness within our organization which is caused by Satan. Jon will come down on any like a ton of bricks if you do him wrong. So have Respect for true authority that Jon hold's with Love. A key indicates control or authority and Mr. Brisby has been given that Key I "Believe Me". Please pray for Him. Upon His shoulders we place our faith and know in faith God is with him.
That is hilarious 😆😅🤣 My church is so small were are the new people? Jon once again Lies to you. He need's to bee seen or Prioritizing Growth. It's Just lies. The only real Growth I have seen is an Harmful spirit tormented our Pastor Jon on his speedy wheels. The Devil Loves Fast cool Pastors.
You have not grown. This is fact. You are dissolving, that is fact. If you were hearing what the spirit has to say, you would know and understand the lies of Brisby. For years, even when I attended there, he spewed the same rhetoric about growth, but everytime we would looked around, there was none. What you need to understand, is that his speech is designed to misdirect. He tries to keep you looking left, when he is doing his dirty work on the right. Sound like someone else we know? I know personally it is dissolving, because of the contacts I have, there and those who have left. Now will it dissolve right away, no. I'd give it 3-5 years tops. The turning point will come when there is not enough tithe coming in to keep the employees in the office employed. Remember, he dissolved the board in 2001 purposely after Raymond died so that he would not have to answer to anyone for mishandling of funds. He controls all that is Church of God, the eternal. Time and circumstances will be the factors.
Yes too much politics I left also.
Jon's Mouth is just like any firearms. Shall I bring mine to Church ?
Violence often begets violence and love often begets love, “those who live by the sword, die by the sword. Put away your sword," Jesus told him. "Those who use the sword will die by the sword. For example, if an outlaw in the old west constantly challenged others to gun-slinging duels then that outlaw would eventually die dueling.
?? Yes come to Church and see Jesus Protect us all.
We are in the last of the last day's.
The one who waits for and reaches 1,335 days is blessed.
Without prophecy you will be blind. The unknown event to reach that time can be seen. The daily sacrifice is taken away, You Church was taken away . Christ and his spirit is taken away from our Church.
Sardis- The Dead Church. Referring to the angel of each church. Much of what is said is rebuke and admonishment, so if the angels are heavenly beings, they may serve in some way as representatives of the sinful people in their churches. Do your 1st Works return to God through repentance only then can you do any work. No Work No Church. No Christ no Power and authority.
Power and authority only with Jon. He is the hope of earth.
MESSAGE is for AMERICA AND BRITAIN, today!
Listen! "Behold I, even I," says the Eternal God EZ 6 (Verse 3), "will bring a sword (invasion) upon you, and I will destroy your high places... and I will lay the dead carcasses of the children of ISRAEL before their idols; and I will scatter your bones round about your altars. In all your dwelling places the cities shall be laid waste (atomic-bombing) ... and ye shall know that I am the Eternal" (Verses 5-7). This is not a popular message. You probably have never heard it before from Brisby. The preachers and teachers of prophecy almost unanimously will rise up to deny this warning Message — to apply it to a different time or people. But the warning is from the Eternal God, and it is sure! The reader will do well to heed: Jon Won't Believe It!
In the 34th chapter, God tells him to prophesy against the ministers of our land. They have fed themselves, and not the flocks. They have preached what people wanted to hear (II Tim. 4:3-4) in order to get their salaries.
Tuesday, January 25, 2022 at 7:23:00 PM PST,
No we are Protected , Not to worry Christ will Show Mr. Brisby from beginning to end. Only he can be explaining to the Church those things.
Don't fear bleak prophecy.
https://www.foxnews.com/science/astronomers-spot-spooky-object-in-our-galactic-backyard
Astronomers spot ‘spooky’ object in ‘our galactic backyard’
The mystery object is 4,000 light-years away,
Jesus is coming soon.
Monday, January 17, 2022 at 3:17:00 AM PST,
James and Paul are speaking of two different laws. Paul is speaking of the OT Law of Moses, “the one from Mount Sinai” (Gal. 4:24). And James is speaking of the NT “law of liberty,” which Paul calls the “law of Christ” (Gal. 6:2) that has set us free from the law of bondage. As Paul put it, “what the Law [of Moses] could not do in that it was weak through the flesh,” nevertheless “the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death” (Rom. 8:2–3). The Law of Moses was written in stone, but the law of Christ is inscribed by the Spirit in our hearts (Jer. 31:31; 2 Cor. 3:3–7).
Galatians 4:25
Now Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia;5 she corresponds to the present Jerusalem, for she is in slavery with her children.
Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law? For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman. But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise. Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar. For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children. But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all. (Gal. 4:21-26).
“And the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,
Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog,
the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy
against him” (Ezekiel 38:1-2). Gog” is Russia, and that
“the land of Magog” includes China. The descendants of
Meshech and Tubal have been found together throughout
history “prophesy against
him”— Brisby act now
“tidings out of the are
east” troubling Europe. Brisby is fast asleep he walks blind
Prophecy is proof that God exists, Jon Hates Prophecy. We are entering into the worst crisis ever satan hates the facts
Prophecy we don't understand and it's not compulsory, to read. Will not save you.
Why then was 1/3 of the scripture inspired to be prophecy? Just to scoff at?
Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 10:42:00 AM PST
US forces are not going to Ukraine could you see that in prophecy. No you could not. USA is the Beast system we are strong power with military beast like Power.
Thursday, February 3, 2022 at 4:33:00 AM PST
Good to see your Church has lost "the gift of prophecy" Grace Communion International loves you all. Grace Communion International we are passionate about sharing the love of Christ and doing away with old out dated gifts.
Saturday, February 5, 2022 at 3:56:00,
We are all one in Jesus.
Our Church is not One in Christ. I hear some few say just how Deeply Divided we have become. Jon and his implications of this divide are also real, though largely unrecognized by some. His a true Master of Games upon those Minds. His own Perfect recipe for a deeply divided Church is his own doings. I don’t make quick assumptions but his acting like a Man of Sin. I can see what has transpired and we all should be ready to follow Christ. Cursed is the man who trusts in mankind. And makes flesh his strength, And whose heart turns away from the Lord. Psalm 118:9.
Jesus Loves all Churches
Brisby stated Raymond Cole did not make any changes. Do you all accept that?
read it here
Monthly Letter
February 2022
Why Did Church of God, The Eternal
Form in 1975?
Jon W. Brisby.
Brisby typed the following -quote : Raymond Cole did not make any changes to that revealed
Way of Life, and even since his death in 2001.
If you can all type those changes please let the blog know.
Let's prove all things ?
The Modern Romans and Churches of God
Ancient Rome was a powerful empire. As was the WCG. It seemed invincible, yet it fell. The collapse of Rome is a sobering warning for your little group.
Jon can you hear - The Marshaling of the Nations
changes what changes? No Change
There have been changes, but even if they were listed, would you do due diligence and look at the proof? Probably not. If you search back through the pages of this particular post, you will see some listed. Not only that, many times you have had blatant lies told to you from the pulpit that also have been documented. The time is coming soon that all will be known.
Lies Brisby will never change because Jesus would lie to us. Jesus never lies .
God will bringing about the fulfillment of prophecies written in Ezekiel 38 and 39? Do you hear Jon teaching you about Gog ? If not why not? Do you understand what's happening here? Prophecy is alive my friend's. You've all learned about future by Herbert W. Armstrong . Whom is the arm of the Lord revealed . Will you believed His Report . One must laments that there will be those who will not believe God’s report given unto us by Herbert W. Armstrong. May I suggest that you go back to your roots. This is a very interesting report- WHO HAS BELIEVED OUR REPORT? This is an amazing remark written by three totally different people namely the prophet Isaiah, the Apostle John and the Apostle Paul.
Romans 10:15-17 (MEV) 15 And how shall they preach unless they are sent? As it is written: “How beautiful are the feet of those who preach the gospel of peace, who bring good news of good things!” 16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Isaiah says, “Lord, who has believed our report?” 17 So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. A Few will and must comprehend in your group. Rise up preach the gospel , Do a Quick Work , Fear not Brisby.
Brisby hasn’t changed one teaching. He continued the line of true Authority given by Christ. We must accept his teachings as coming from Christ. Listen and feed upon Jon’s sermons. I look upon our Pastor as being Christ himself. All must come to recognise and accept that. When anyone refuted Jon he will curse them be careful. Don’t speak again the Lord’s anointed. Get your mindset off all prophecies because those things are not required for eternal life. Our little fellowship lives by every word apart from the book of revelation. It’s simple too hard to understand or comprehend. I support Jon and he must be respected as Christ living among us.
You know the changes but you just love politics!
Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand."
A BLESSING is pronounced on you for READING these words — provided you are submissive and obedient to KEEP those things which are written therein!, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand."
A BLESSING is pronounced on you for READING these words — provided you are submissive and obedient to KEEP those things which are written therein onBlessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand."
A BLESSING is pronounced on you for READING these words — provided you are submissive and obedient to KEEP those things which are written therein! !
Jon will never be submissive on prophecies. I found him to be stiff necked and stubborn his Unwillingness to go back to the original Prophecy .
What are you on about with prophecy? We have rejected those speculations in the 1970s. European Commission isn’t a Beast. European nations are friendly. I suspect Russian situation will come to nothing. Don’t worry on prophecies just get your mind on the one authorised agent Christ has established to deliver truth. Armstrong just copy British Israel teachings it’s not delivered by faith. So it’s done away with and now the reality is of Jesus Woking inside Mr.Brisby.
Good to see your Church has lost "the gift of prophecy" Grace Communion International loves you all. Grace Communion International we are passionate about sharing the love of Christ and doing away with old out dated gifts. Focus on Short and long Range not the old outdated prophecy of fear. Love will cast out fear. Well done to your Pastor . Those added changes about Jesus and his spirit show's we are in The Kingdom right now. Is Come in flesh we agree with you. Hope to see more change on doctrines of grace. Grace is upon your Pastor keep up your blessed Sanctification You Are My King in the flesh (Amazing Love) lives on the earth let the light Shine.
Are You One With God?
Robert G. Burke
Yes We are But Jon is far away from God.
Please ask the Question How we can be One we God.
I know, this was their Pre-Passover message. I like Bob, but all of his sermons are exactly the same. It's like he has been told to speak on one thing, and one thing only. Eventually he is going to run out of ways to present the same material. I'm also concerned for him and how he seems to be parroting Jon, literally. The mannerisms, expressions, etc... If you do anything for them, pray for them. Remember what happens to those who have had hands laid on them by Jon.
Both Jon and Robert G Burke voices are Not the Same Anymore. Something has changed I need to hear the Right Voice.
Jesus prayed that His Church would be kept ONE in the Father's name. "Holy Father, KEEP THROUGH THINE OWN NAME those whom thou hast given me, that they may be ONE, as we are (John 17:11Open in Logos Bible Software (if available). This Church Never will use the Father's Name. All you hear is the Son Not the Fathers name. FOR THOU HAST A LITTLE STRENGTH, AND HAST KEPT MY WORD AND HAST NOT DENIED MY NAME" (Rev. 3:8Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)). Remember, our fellowship is WITH THE FATHER, AND WITH JESUS CHRIST. No Father No Son No true Church. Ministers are God's bond-servants and the shepherds of the flock . It is time to WAKE UP! If you become complacent, lacking in zeal, looking upon a local church as a social club, instead of having your heart in the gospel, you, too, may find yourself in the "Church of Laodicea" left to suffer the impending, horrifying tribulation.
No need to to fear tribulation. We are taken by Mr. Brisby to place of Protection.
Your following a man .
I don't think your group even talks, or preach the tribulation. Since you all don't understand prophecy how would one comprehend the tribulation.
Why would the tribulation need to be preached when we have Jesus living and speaking among us in Jon? Christ is bringing the Kingdom of God into our lives today.
Now I know your being foolish. No one over there even remotely believes that.
This Blog is proof of the true Church and our dear Leader
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