You posed a question: can Bob Thiel get any crazier? Well, perhaps he can. Prior to his sermon on government and gossip, I got an email in which he asked if Terry Nelson has lost it for posting on this site. I replied to him that I am not a dictator, so Terry Nelson is a free moral agent who makes his own decisions, and God is judge of him, as He is of all of us. Then I reminded him of various comments I receive from his followers, one of which was a detestable email from African CCOG "evangelist" Evans, who wrote that I am capable of only one thing: to sow discord among the brethren. Then, I reminded Bob of his own words to Terry Nelson`s son whom Bob accussed of being blind and put a reference to Christ`s letter to Laodiceans. So, then, I told Bob that it is really a good question who lost it and what has been lost!? In the meantime, friends informed me that his message had gone up. Regardless of my total dislike of his approach, while he ignores the factual evidence of awful corruption and misdeeds, I will not make any response to that. In my email to him, I asked him to please remind his followers that pride comes before destruction, and I pointed out that I have asked all those associated with me not to attack him and his CCOG. I also reminded Bob of the men who have created all the mess in CCOG in Africa and I also cautioned him that his CCOG may soon be faced directly with Romans 13. Because some of now former CCOG members in Malawi decided to appeal to their government over the various abuses they received from CCOG representative there. So, the evidence of various - as I call them - crimes against humanity is at the Malawian government. Let it also be known that Malawian government kindly registered Hope of Israel Worldwide Church of God, being thankful to us who have stood up for the oppressed Malawian believers. It is the first country where we were registered and it is symbolic because that the country where the worst abuses have happened against members in the name of "government of God".
And one more comment about calling into account that always comes from the TOP, not from the basest bottom. From which top it can come? CCOG has only one person at the top. And the closest person to Bob in the rank is "evangelist" who has created his own evil personal church empire, yet has audacity to write a detestable letter to me in which he puts me down with his pride and disgusting comments. Surely, he could only insult me and praise himself that he is the one in Africa, he does a mighty work, etc. So, no, nobody could hold Bob Thiel accountable from the top, for no one than him is on the top. We who are his friends tried to rescue CCOG by telling him things he did not believe and presenting him arguments and proofs he simply dismissed. We have done our duty before God and Christ for we have to submit to God rather than to any man. Terry Nelson has even gone that far to inform the widest audience about all those things by posting it here.
To anonymous comment from LCG: there is no reason for you in LCG to laugh about this tragedy because for many years you enjoyed the fellowship and blogs from Bob Thiel. Also, remember what the Bible says about rejoicing over somebody`s fall. There are some things laughable about LCG, but I don`t feel like laughing. It hurts me that the Body of Christ has been fragmented by various leaders who were driven by their vanity, egoism and pride. Rod Meredith and other COG leaders today are not innocent of that either.
To those who made reference to Joyce and David, can you have mercy and refrain from such comments?! Would Christ have that kind of attitude in this or any other situation for that matter?
11 comments:
Sasha
It has to be frustrating to not be heard. I have known Thiel for many years since he was in the Living Church of God. He never listened to Mr. Meredith at that time and was consumed with his own ego and how he was perceived by those in the church. His vanity prohibited him from letting the church use him. He always thought knew more than any of the ministry and us, as members. He always seem to talk down to us as not as smart as he was and refused to listen to common sense. I wish you the best in your endeavors. Please do NOT become like Bob! It is easy to do, as we have all seen by now.
Saša. From the Worldwide COG to the United COG to the COG of David Hume to the Continuous COG to his own micro whatever COG. The destiny of the sects and cults.
When Bob left LCG, he never accused Rod Meredith of practicing literal witchcraft or of defending witches on the LCG payroll.
We now have a situation in which more than three credible men have seen evidence of witchcraft practiced by African leaders of Bob's church.
One would naturally expect that the ONE TRUE LEADER of God's Church would move quickly to put witchcraft out of the church. So, when those credible witnesses see instead that Bob chooses to DEFEND the witches, how else do you expect them to act, other than to leave Bob's church.
If Bob was justified in leaving LCG so he wouldn't become implicated in lies, the Serbians and others are even MORE justified in leaving Bobism so they aren't implicated in witchcraft AND in Bob's lies about it!
Is there any such thing as a CCOG???
Thiel has always defended HWA about his well documented sexual problem that occurred in his early ministry, by constantly saying that "there was no proof or evidence" , in spite of court records, and very reliable testimony from close associates of HWA.
He is responding the same way in this Africa scandal. There are things in life that are often difficult, unexpected and shocking and are many times bring a sense of betrayal. . However, it is best to embrace the truth and reality, and not try to fit your idealized hope and vision into a falsehood, when things dont go as expected. Bob is weak in that manner.
He will force feed the square peg of reality into the round peg of his dreams, fantasy and expectations in all manners and issues in his life. His track record is apparent and self evident with this in many areas.
The other thing Thiel is not denying is the witchcraft and spells. He i strangely silent on the topic.
Not sure how one proves or disproves that. I mean, where I live, "Appalchian folk medicine" (often involving fetishes and charms) is a thing, but unless you actually spot it occurring or they leave traces (like sugar in wounds), you dont really know if its happening or not. I would be suspicious of reports of that too in this "New Satanic Panic" we are living through.
The other thing Thiel is not denying is the witchcraft and spells. He i strangely silent on the topic.
Bob has had a strange preoccupation with proclaiming Catholic, Mayan, and Hindu prophecies. Maybe he picked up a demon as a result. How do we know that Evans gave Bob a demon spirit, when it could have been the other way around?
Bob cannot have a demon because Gerald Flurry has them all.
However, it is best to embrace the truth and reality, and not try to fit your idealized hope and vision into a falsehood ....
Which is why your square bible belongs in a round garbage can.
Someone wrote:
Which is why your square bible belongs in a round garbage can.
Monday, March 20, 2023 at 6:20:00 PM PDT
Well, a perfect example of a darkened heart. Thanks for reminding us of Paul’s covering this in Romans.
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