Boring Dave Plays the Guessing Game

 

The Guessing Game

Since David C. Pack of The Restored Church of God admitted that even he cannot know the day or the hour of Jesus Christ’s return, he no longer has any real material to bring to the table. “The Greatest Untold Story! (Part 581)” on June 21, 2025, was a real snoozer.

The Pastor General purloined another 85 minutes of the brethren's Sabbath, pontificating half-baked ideas and throwing out potential possibilities. RCG members experienced a taste of what the workweek is like in the Third Floor Executive Imaginarium when Coffee Kid and Pepper Boy are subject to Dave’s banal lectures pondering potential scenarios.

Rest assured, the period of David Passover’s vagueness will not last long. He was already bursting at the seams to retake his rightful place as being the only exception to the “no man knows” rule.

During Part 581, David C. Pack was playing the guessing game. He was not sure about anything, but he was filled with ideas. In the end, brethren rose from their chairs with nothing to cling to. Could be. May be. Potentially. Dave was dying to tell them he knew more and tried his best to uphold his relevance, but members who feigned sickness to avoid services did not miss anything substantial.

Members knew they were in for a wild ride when Dave opened by giving himself a Participation Award.

Part 581 – June 21, 2025
@ 00:06 Well, good evening, everyone. Here we are. We all I expected to be here, of course, this week.

I laughed out loud. When an unordained non-prophet/non-psychic and God’s Seventh Messenger apostle/sometimes-prophet both know the same thing before it happens, it grants us an even status for prophetic legitimacy.

With the Israel/Iran situation continuing to cool, the RCG Fear Factory suffered a significant depletion of raw materials this week. Dave’s paper tiger is now a yapping chihuahua.

@ 00:21 Of course, the the war is is is intensifying. We all know that. And we see the day approaching.

The words of David C. Pack do not age well. Not about prophecy. Not about what he plans to do. Not about world news. The only thing reliable about David C. Pack is how unreliable he is. But it did not prevent the little guy from trying.

@ 17:06 I hate to see war, but I'm thankful in a way because I know there's a prophecy that Jerusalem is at war when the Kingdom comes, and their their war is intensifying and growing worse. Or you could wonder, “Wait a minute, are we gonna go another year?”

How adorable. The headlines are not kind to David C. Pack. The 12-day war is over. A ceasefire is in place. Iran is willing to negotiate. Both Russia and China applied for conscientious objector status. That is not exactly the definition of “intensifying.”

Giggles, giggles, and more giggles in 3…2…1…

@ 1:24:34 Keep watching the war and strife and contention and violence and lawlessness and protests. Keep watching the day approaching. And we may all know when the Kingdom comes together. We're just we we're we’re at we’re at the end. It's about to snap. I believe we'll be here next week, but I'm not sure.

Dave’s previous warnings about imminent world hell and societies soon collapsing all fall flat. Adding this to being unable to teach exactly when the Kingdom of God will arrive, some members might be wondering, “Why are we paying you?”

When the summer solstice was the apple of Dave’s eye, the word “summer” meant “summer” in the parable of the fig tree. When that day approached, and his Spidey Senses tingled with discomfort, he discovered that “summer” just meant “heat” in the same parables.

In Part 580, it meant world-conditions heat. In Part 581, it means weather heat. Care to play the guessing game for what it will mean in Part 582?

@ 04:22 I have never seen four days in a row foretold to be as hot as they are now. The hottest day that's ever been, ever been, even a single day in June in Wadsworth, is 95, and we're scheduled for 93, 94, 93.

@ 04:55 Now, is that a coincidence? Where does that put us? We learned last week for the first time that blazing, meaning glaring heat, really hot, is a sign of the time. And and then this happens.

2024 was the year with the hottest average in Ohio. The hottest temperature ever recorded in Ohio was 113 degrees in Gallipolis in 1934. If heat was a sign of the time, Dave missed it already.

@ 1:23:33 Tremendous heat is striking the country. I don't have a lot more in the Series. I didn't plan this message. So, lo and behold, God plans for me. But heat, tremendous heat, is striking the country starting today.

@ 1:24:23 I've never seen anything like this. Is it a coincidence?

RCG members have suffered through eagles, rainbows, biblical fog, and prophetic COVID-19. Now, members endure a prophetic heatwave in summer. Coincidences are the bottom of the barrel of theological proofs.

David C. Pack’s bread and butter in The Restored Church of God was hosing down his worshipers with prophetic adrenaline while the doomsday clock ticked toward midnight. With a precise target on the bullseye missing, Dave is just throwing darts to let people know he is still rushing to call out anything.

His guessing game extended to an undefined Day of Gladness by moving the Last Great Day from the fall to somewhere in the summer. The Last Great Moving Day did not go over well in 2023.

But Dave makes all things new.

@ 1:19:50 So, this is not our first rodeo looking at moving the Last Great Day to the spring. But WE took it too far. WE took it too far. WE took it from the back end of the of the Feast of Tabernacles all the way to the front of Abib year. Maybe we're only supposta to go about half that far. Something like that.

Despite having nothing of substance to offer, Dave tried to push his unique legitimacy.

@ 05:57 I’ve learned some incredibly interesting things, but I haven't moved from where I was last week.

@ 06:29 I'm pretty sure I know the hour of the day. I no longer think I know the day. I used to be the other way around. I thought I knew the day but not the hour.

@ 06:52 Because you can almost certainly, and I believe I will prove to you you'll know the hour. It'll be the start of the day when when a Great Supper would begin.

Spoiler Alert: The hour is when a day begins at sunset. Mic drop.

See, no man knows the day and hour. Kinda.

Dave figured out the ingredients to the Bible’s secret sauce by taste and a partial label on the box. Just because you cannot know the day does not mean you do not see what the day is called.

@ 07:26 I know a lot more than I did last week, but it it duddn’t involve knowing the day. I know more about it and some fascinating things about it. And how I’d even equates to some lost knowledge. I know what the day is called, how God labels it, but this is a kind of a a hidden season. We'll call it a phantom season or time, kairos, known only to God.

@ 25:55 I I I could ask, how many have ever wondered, read, and wonder, “What's the Day of Gladness?” But I'll bet no hands would go up. Now, maybe one or two would, so I don't I won't say absolutely.”

Dave desperately wants to speak in absolutes, but reality keeps thwarting him. He lacked the courage to test his Day of Gladness awareness theory in the Main Hall. He dared not ask for a show of hands, or it would have silenced his thunder. He read the room and avoided the real challenge to his bravado.

Part 581 was a painfully long smattering of goofy questions while Dave played the guessing game. Prepare to yawn and shrug at the same time. This is just a small sampling.

@ 34:12 But is this is this the feast we're waiting for? Are we waiting for the feast in Acts 18:21? Are we waiting for the Day of Gladness? Or are we waiting for the phantom mystery shadow chag of Exodus 15, and 19, and 24? What are we waiting for? [pats hand on table] Very, very interesting.

@ 45:51 One wonders, did God take Av 10 and move it closer to where we are now?

@ 50:48 To where might God move a Holy Day to remain forever? Where might He move it? To signal the only day he will ever use to build the Kingdom of God question mark?

@ 1:02:30 Is that mean the Last Great Day on that day is gonna shift? Is that really what [chuckles] what happened to it when it disappeared at the end of the feast in Ezekiel 45? Is that where it went? So that it could be a Great Supper?

@ 1:22:07 So, what might the mysterious date be? What might it be? Well, I mean, technically, you could say, “Mr. Pack, is there any chance it's still in Sivan?”

@ 1:21:24 Is God going to take the Holy Day that currently is the 22nd of the month and move it to early in the month [Tammuz] we're coming up on? Seems reasonable.

@ 1:20:11 And no, I'm not, you know, hinting at a particular day there. It'd be incredible. Was God telling us, “I'm going to end this war on the Last Great Day because I'm gonna start it on that day?”

David C. Pack
All Questions. No Answers.™

For those with patient perseverance and the discipline to bother reading all of that malarkey, you now know what modern Sabbath Services are like in The Restored Church of God. Dave takes the term “bored to tears” to a new level.

David C. Pack
Hinting at substance without providing substance.™

@ 35:50 I would need to restore that knowledge, and I can't restore it unless God shows it to me. And I I promise you, [chuckles] when you go study, they go nobody even focuses on these verses, never mind, assembled them all.

When the Day of Gladness fades like the summer solstice, revisit the concept that God showed him this.

@ 1:25:10 But I doubt that I'm gonna be able to tell you the day. I have some suspicions, but the problem is I have more than one suspicion. So why why give you any of them? I gave you a whole bunch of days to think about.

This is some astonishing double-minded blindness: “Why give you any of them?” in one breath with, “I gave you a whole bunch…” in the next. Dave’s mouth operates independently from his brain.

We can all long for the next occasion when Dave thinks he knows the day and hour of Jesus Christ’s return so we can avoid any more quiz show messages like Part 581.

In the meantime, brethren of The Restored Church of God will have to stew in their disappointment for yet a little while as Dave stalls for more time playing his guessing game.

Marc Cebrian

See: The Guessing Game

Mr Aaron Dean belongs to God! Not to the United Church of God, nor to any other church! He is a brand plucked from the fire. He is the Administrator of the Worldwide Church of God!

Poor Bob Thiel. All along, he thought he was the chosen one, planned by God as the foundations of the world were being formed to lead the church in these perilous end times. Alas, it isn't so. There is someone better and more qualified. Poor Bob, always the bridesmaid and never the bride!

Samuel Kitchen writes, after a long quote by Aaron Dean on how HE organized the sit-ins in the Hall of Ad during the receivership (though many who were in Pasadena have another view on that), the following: 

So Mr Dean was responsible for the 5,000 brethren, the grassroots movement that stood up in protest against the California receivership in 1979, by taking possession of and using what belonged to God!

This is what we the membership of the Worldwide Church of God are doing today. Fighting for what belongs to God. Standing up for what belongs to God. Even coming together in Jerusalem, to make that known and to make known Mr Aaron Dean belongs to God! Not to the United Church of God, nor to any other church! He is a brand plucked from the fire. He is the Administrator of the Worldwide Church of God!

The mantle of authority he has in THIS CHURCH was delegated to him BY THE APOSTLE. This is his assignment!

None of us had a say in it, and so none of us has a say in it now. We cannot go and speak a lie, nor should we. We cannot say he has zero authority in the Worldwide Church of God. But now we ought to do right and raise awareness for the truth, edify him for the sake of his ministry, and strengthen the brethren so his work may be effective!

People may wonder why I went to Jerusalem earlier this year. It was to stand up in protest. To declare what belongs to God belongs to God! Just like those 5,000 brethren did when they took the Church property and did their sit in, when it was being taken over by outsiders.

I’ve always wondered why does the Church go to Jerusalem and flee from Jerusalem? To declare that which belongs to God! Just by showing up as the church, keeping God’s Holy Days.

And that’s what I’m doing. And I am not deterred!

Mr Dean, belongs to Jesus Christ, and so the Lord rebukes the Devil, in the name of Jesus Christ! Is He not a brand plucked from the fire?

 

Dave Pack's Fear Factory

 

Fear Factory

The sky is always falling in Wadsworth, Ohio.

Whenever a major crisis of any kind arises in the world, David C. Pack of The Restored Church of God seizes on the opportunity to reestablish the climate of prophetic fear, saturating the Main Hall at Headquarters.

With the summer solstice’s eminent failure and no new date in sight, the sudden conflict between Israel and Iran became the lucky break the Pastor General needed. During “The Greatest Untold Story! (Part 580)” on June 14, 2025, David C. Pack threw up his hands and admitted for the first time again that “no man knows the day and hour” of Jesus Christ’s return.

The warfare in the Middle East enabled him to shift focus away from his most recent failures while relieving him of the need to establish a new specific day for the arrival of the Kingdom of God. He maintained his perceived authority and keen insight into world events by laying the fear on pretty thick to ratchet up member anxiety.

Part 580 – June 14, 2025
@ 00:17 God, brethren, has brought long-expected events to the front, and the world is, you could almost say, at war. …now there’s a big war in the Middle East that’s gonna come to a very, very bad end. …the war between Iran and and Judah, Israel, will not be complete when the Kingdom comes. But it’s now on.

David C. Pack repeated that the Kingdom of God would arrive before the fighting between Iran and Israel ended. His credibility tanked again. There is already a ceasefire of "The 12-Day War" in place. The safest position to take is always to believe the opposite of what David C. Pack says.

@ 01:05 So, what is happening has got to be close enough …to the Kingdom that it cannot it cannot come to conclusion.

Further expressing his love for theatrics, Dave threw out the N-word to further edify the brethren.

@ 16:34 If you wonder whether Israel whether Israel will defeat the Iranians, all you hafta know is they they believe in, and their official military doctrine is "Uh Operation, You Know, Sampson.” They’re the they said, “Before we will be destroyed, we will tear down the temple of mankind.” Before Iran will win this war, Israel does have nukes, and they will nuke Iran before Iran can destroy them. They will cross a threshold where they're under such threat and so much death you will see you will see mushroom clouds in Iran unless God intervenes.

Right out of the Worldwide Church of God Fearmongering Playbook, Dave floated the idea of a nuclear war. At least Herbert W. Armstrong had the sense to put it in far future context "in twenty years," so his malarkey would take two decades to stink. Dave proves his ineptitude within hours.

There are several resources for those interested in researching “The Samson Option.” This Times of Israel write-up is quite informative. "Uh Operation, You Know, Sampson" is David C. Pack's distorted version.

The sleight-of-hand “unless God intervenes” trick at the end is Dave putting all his chips on black and red. If something nuclear happened, he could puff his chest and crow about being right. Even after nothing happens, he can say God intervened, shielding his perceived authenticity. Setting up shop in this safe space would prevent him from ever being wrong again. Every single failed date going forward could be due to God intervening. There is no downside to that excuse.

Fear is one of the ways The Restored Church of God retains members. They are not a church. They are a fear factory. When they keep the brethren afraid of what is going on around them, it keeps them from leaving.

The hireling enablers at Headquarters are counting on the persistent fear that world events could take a sudden, dark turn to keep members from fleeing their spiritually bankrupt organization. David C. Pack knows what he is doing when he sounds the Chicken Little alarm bells.

It is a good thing they are in the One True Church. And they better not leave.

@ 15:42 Now it’s impossible not to watch. Anybody among us who's not watching now, who's not trying to see or can't see the day approaching, is probably [chuckles] in the wrong church. And I hope that’s few or none.

Armstrongism followers have been seeing “the day approaching” since the 1930s. Every time there is a military conflict, a financial collapse, or a natural disaster, it is time to get ready. When no single event is eating up the headlines, there are always the low-level “world conditions” to exploit.

David C. Pack is a fear peddler, and the members of The Restored Church of God keep buying it.

@ 27:02 If you’re paying attention, you know the world is collapsing! Nobody knows what China’s gonna do. Are they gonna attack Taiwan because the world’s distracted? Will the Russians do even worse things because the world’s distracted? What will the North Koreans do? What will aggressors and dictators in Africa and South America do? United States left a big hole.

@ 46:45 “It will surely come and can’t tarry.” Maybe that’ll be what it means. We’ve got more to learn. Where where, I guess, I would call it “intense world hell.” Now, you need to be you need to be you need to fear God all through the week. Not just when Mr. Pack saying really serious, grave things. Heavy stuff. You need to stay close to God and be ready.

Staying close to God includes believing His word, fleeing from proven liars and wicked men, not giving money to a spiritually corrupt organization, and holding accountable blaspheming hypocrites claiming to speak with God’s authority.

Staying close to God involves discerning a false prophet and false apostle plainly presenting himself and doing what the Bible says in those circumstances.

@ 47:40 But, you know, we’re the only people on the face of the earth, the only ones, including the people who are who are who are starting Operation Rising Lion, we’re the only ones even among God’s people, the only ones who know how this ends. Do you know that? But only if you’re watching.

Members of The Restored Church of God are not watching what happens right in front of them, so how can they accurately frame world events? They continue to accept the words of deceitful men, spewing fear and lies with impunity. Nobody in The Restored Church of God has a clue about “how this ends” because David C. Pack has wasted over nine years and 580 Parts changing how he thinks it ends. That is not a track record to rely on.

@ 48:02 Maybe a time for a little less fun and a little more sobriety. Little more prayers, study, fasting, staying close to God.

Being a proven false prophet 130 times has not been fun for anyone, but it appears that Fear has become the official mascot of The Restored Church of God.

If Dave’s doom and gloom preaching seems familiar, it should. After Hamas invaded Israel to slaughter and kidnap families on the Last Great Day in 2023, David C. Pack exploited that horrific event to instill fear while propping up his timing narrative.

Two years later, the Pastor General repeats that current events have biblical implications, signaling prophetic timing. The “Israeli Preoccupation” article covered this in detail.

What David C. Pack said back then meant nothing. What he says today means nothing. What he will say tomorrow will mean nothing.

Flashback Part 474 – October 7, 2023
@ 02:06 A great Bible prophecy is underway.

@ 11:29 But, I walked in this morning to powerful confirmation of timing.

@ 35:56 When this happened…I knew immediately what my assignment was. I finally understood my last assignment. I was to rush to carry out.

@ 1:00:25 Now, it’s easy to understand. It’s easy. There should be no one alive in this church who cannot now see “the day approaching.”

People wonder how anyone in RCG can believe Dave. Even if most of them do not, they still will not leave. Each person has their own reasons. The evidence that their human idol is a false prophet, false apostle, and false teacher is overwhelming.

Part 580 – June 14, 2025
@ 1:24:50 And we're we're on the verge of world war. We're on the werge verge of the collapse of various societies, including Israel.

The “No Kings” protests in the United States on the same weekend as Israel’s assault on Iran only encouraged the RCG fear factory to maintain production.

@ 42:22 Now let me pause so you understand the gravity… It may be that real horror comes two or three days before Israel rises. …it’s nowhere near potentially where it will be when real-world hell breaks out, and I'm saying that on the day when there are 2,000 protests in American cities, and there's more war in the Middle East.

In a telling moment of David C. Pack’s character, he explained what should happen to the protesters. Notice the placement of his chuckle when it involves the deaths of others.

@ 21:01 What you should do [chuckles] the only way to have civil obedience is put them all to death. They have to. And that’s God’s law. And you know what? You’ll never have a prob–“That’s so harsh.” No, it isn’t. It means nobody would ever die because nobody’d do it. But they can’t put ‘em to death. They have rights. Even if they weren’t born here. Even if they don’t have citizenship. Even if they just crash the the the border and swam across the Rio Grand.

David C. Pack takes righteous indignation to a whole new level. His occasional chuckles at odd moments betray how he really feels, regardless of what he tries to present to his worshippers. As time goes on, David C. Pack’s words and behavior become increasingly disturbing.

He shows no fear of God when he flippantly blasphemes. He shows no empathy when he chuckles about mass death. It makes perfect sense that producing more fear to manipulate the brethren is easy for him.

Instead of being a church of clock-watchers and calendar enthusiasts, RCG members now have the vague “we must be close” fear to keep them in their seats. More effective than pinning a specific day, having a world crisis with a perceived biblical angle applies pressure for brethren to stay within the familiar borders of The Restored Church of God because worldwide prophetic events could “come as a thief” on an unsuspecting world any day now.

When David C. Pack says there will be war, watch for peace. When David C. Pack says there will be peace, watch for war. When he says he is comfortable, expect discomfort to blossom. When he says to fear, be not afraid of him.

Deuteronomy 18:22
When a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord has not spoken, but the prophet has spoken it presumptuously: you shall not be afraid of him.

The Headquarters Campus of The Restored Church of God is a fear factory, and they churn out product as fast as they can make it. Brethren, do not be afraid of David C. Pack’s words.

Marc Certain

See: Fear Factory