Tuesday, October 15, 2024

I Am The Apokathistemi Sent To Restore All Things


 

California has always been known as the land of fruits and nuts, and no one is nuttier than our Great Bwana Bob Mzungu Thiel, the anointed one set apart by God as the foundations of the world were whirling about. A man so awesome that he was to rise up in the late 20th century to bear witness to the church and the world as a prime example of what happens to deluded men when mental illness and deviant doctrines of the church join forces.

Today the Great Bwana is all in a snit thanks to Gerald Flurry claiming that Herbert Armstrong was the Elijah and restored all things to the church. This just frosts the Great Bwana's butt to no end. How dare Flurry proclaim such a thing when he, the Great Bwana Bob, is the REAL endtime Elijah who has restored all previous as well as new truth to the church! How dare Flurry say otherwise!

Christ said this Elijah would “restore all things.” Mr. Armstrong then noted, “Now John the Baptist didn’t restore anything. They already knew about the law, and he called them to repentance; but he didn’t have to give them sermons about what all the law is. They knew that. He just called them to repent and turn to another way, and baptized them.”

The “restore all things” part of Christ’s statement is at the heart of what makes this the most pivotal end-time prophecy.

There are many end-time prophecies, and people naturally tend to focus on the ones about wars and rumors of wars, earthquakes and supernatural disasters. Some people focus on things like blood moons.

But this prophecy is what Jesus Christ focused on.

This prophecy is directly connected with His Second Coming: He said this man would restore all truth within the Church just before the Day of the Lord. This is a sign of the nearness of Jesus Christ’s return that you must not ignore!

And what makes this even more important is that this prophecy has already been fulfilled!

Already Fulfilled

There was a man who fulfilled this preparatory role in the end time. A man who did “restore all things.”

That man was Herbert W. Armstrong.

This did not sit well with the Great Bwana Bob. After all, he is the chosen one sent by God for this end time age to warn the world and the church to repent and return to the one true faith. The Great Bwana writes:

Herbert W. Armstrong did restore various doctrinal truths to the COG, but Herbert W. Armstrong did not restore all things–though he did claim to restore at least 18.

Since Herbert died never restoring all truth, this obviously means there is someone yet to do that, at least in the Great Bwana's eyes. Of course one can make one guess as to who that end time Elijah must be.

The “very end” of the Church age was not over 37 years ago! The 6000 years have NOT yet been fulfilled. Since the “very end of the Church age” has not happened, and Herbert W. Armstrong died decades ago, his writings support that there must be another Elijah. And he was referring to an individual in the Mystery of the Ages. 

The Great Bwana then drags out Dibar Apartian, as if he is a reliable source of information (he is not).  

That being said, sometimes Herbert W. Armstrong did think that he may have fulfilled the Elijah role, but he told the late Dibar Apartian (who told me) that he was NOT the Elijah. Dibar Apartian did not believe that Herbert W. Armstrong was the Elijah when we discussed this several times and he agreed with me about this. Furthermore, essentially on his deathbed, Herbert W. Armstrong admitted to his closest aide, Aaron Dean (who told me this multiple times) that there could be an Elijah to come after he died. 
 
Combining what Herbert W. Armstrong wrote in The Mystery of the Ages and the length of time since his death demonstrates that Herbert W. Armstrong could not have been the final prophesied Elijah. (Note: All hyperlinks to blasphemous heresy have been removed)

The Great Bwana Bob continues:

So there is an ‘Elijah’ past – John the Baptist. And Matthew 17:11 does NOT say that “All things” = God’s laws and all the true doctrinal teachings while WARNING His chosen people, Israel, of the Great Tribulation.

Herbert W. Armstrong could not have restored ALL THINGS (Mark 9:12) as scripture and his own writings show he could not have been the final Elijah since he died so long ago. Neither did he nor the Bible define ALL THINGS as Joel Hilliker has.

Since the Bible does teach that there will be an ‘Elijah’ who is alive right before Jesus returns (Malachi 4:5-6), thus it is not possible that Herbert W. Armstrong was the prophesied final Elijah.

Now, presuming Jesus will return within the next couple of decades, then that ‘Elijah’ would need to be alive now. And he would be part of the church that places the highest priority on the truth.

You can easily see where this is headed.

Yet, most Christians seemingly refuse to accept that.

Well, I wonder why? The church has seen some of the most idiotic men proclaim themselves over the decades as Elijah sent by God to warn the world and the church. Every single one of them has been exposed as liars. Dave Pack, Gerald Flurry, and Bob Thiel are liars all.

We in the Continuing Church of God are regularly restoring more truth about church history, Jesus, the Bible, doctrine, and prophecy. And we have done this more (and in more languages), by far, than any other group in the 21st century (COG or otherwise for that matter). Plus we have restored important truth about why God created anything and His plan for each human.

What a load of useless crap!

The crap gets thicker as the Great Bwana Bob attempts to prove that he is a prophet, the Elijah and soon to be one of the two witless witnesses. I can just picture him and Laura Weinland roaming the streets of Jerusalem together. What a hoot!

The Great Bwana then proceeds to link to one of his bouncing videos on why he is the 21st Century Elijah:

Was John the Baptist the prophesied Elijah or at least a type of Elijah? Is there an Elijah to come? Have Sabbatarians been teaching this a long time? What were 18 truths that Herbert W. Armstrong said God had him restore? Was anything to be restored in the last days, consistent with Daniel 12:4 and Matthew 17:11? Was God supposed to restore dreams and prophets in the last days? Did the Worldwide Church of God teach such would happen again? Have we seen signs of Acts 2:17-18 in the Continuing Church of God? Is Bob Thiel the final Elijah or one of the two witnesses? Why or why not? Has there been the restoration of important truths in the CCOG? Is the CCOG at least setting the foundation for the 21st century Elijah? Dr. Thiel gives information relating to all of that in this sermon.

If you truly believed the Bible then you would believe everything the Great Bwana Bob says and kneel at his feet acknowledging him as your end-time prophet, your Elijah, and 1/2 of the two witless witnesses. But none of you will do this since you are all Laodicean reprobates sent by Satan to disrupt the glorious truths the Great Bwana has to share.

Sadly, just as many would not hear Elijah’s nor John the Baptist’s messages, relatively few will pay much attention to the end time Elijah as well.   
 
That is not a surprise as most Christians in the end times are to be Laodicean, and Jesus warned the Laodiceans since they would not ‘get with the program,’ that they would be punished (Revelation 3:14-18). 
 
Of course, if you are willing to believe the truth and do what the Bible teaches, that does not have to include you.

There you have it! The Great Bwana has spoken. Repent! Return to the one true faith that even Rod Meredith rejected as did the ENTIRE Living Church of God ministry and its membership.

13 comments:

Anonymous said...

Since the Bible does teach that there will be an ‘Elijah’ who is alive right before Jesus returns (Malachi 4:5-6 Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)), thus it is not possible that Herbert W. Armstrong was the prophesied final Elijah

these statements where men assume they know God's mind and insist on saying what God does is bordering on being blasphemous

Anonymous said...

....or Elijah restored at Jesus' first coming and the resurrected Elijah will continue restoring when Jesus returns after being in heaven - Acts 3:21.

Anonymous said...

A trait of all these so called restored truths is that they have zero relevance to daily living. This is mis direction while the Herb ministers rob their members of their adulthood by "administering God's government." There are many scriptures about not lording it over members, but since all major denominations do this to a noticeable degree, following the herd somehow makes it acceptable.

Anonymous said...

Btw, I should have added to my 9.36 PM comment that Paul instructed Christians to obey God rather than man, whereas broadly speaking, obeying man rather than God is the mark of the beast. Herb's above-the-law ministers are mark-of-the-beast ministers.

Anonymous said...

The text of Malachi says "before", not "right before".

Considering what the Bible says about God's sense of time, I wouldn't want to be so dogmatic about the timing.

Anonymous said...

Is that even a word? Anyone try to use it in Scrabble?

RSK said...

There he goes again hoping to be a Two Witness. He's been hinting at it for years. You would THINK that with so many failed examples out there, one would be far more cautious about that sort of thing.

Also, I've mentioned it before, but the fortieth anniversary of HWA's death is coming up in January 2026. Surprised more COG DIYers aren't proclaiming that he was actually a Moses and spiritual Israel has wandered almost 40 years in the wilderness.

Free Your Mind said...

Even if there is an Elijah in the end time, who lives just before Christ returns, as we cannot possibly know the date of Christ's return (Matthew 24:36), then how can we know if someone is the end-time Elijah? What if the return of Christ is not until many years after Bob dies? It is already many years after Armstrong died.

Anonymous said...

I have wondered if a sorta repeat occurs: exodus from Pharaoh/king/HWA; the COgs wander in the HWA wilderness for 38 years; now time to enter the promised land, i.e the millenium ?? (sorry about that 'time will tell John')

RSK said...

(Bob, if you steal that without property atrributing the quote, I'm coming to Arroyo Grande and collecting a check.)

Anonymous said...

Gotquestions.Org has a well written and balanced explanation of Malachi 4:5-6 and the ‘Elijah’ comment.
I do think Jesus cleared up any misconceptions the disciples had on who was ‘the Elijah’ to come once and for all time. It was John the Baptist.
Evidently His Word is not sufficient for many. Especially within the dying Armstrong movement.

Anonymous said...

On this topic, we could well ask why the need for an Elijah to come when the Two Witnesses are also visible. Perhaps there are three witnesses?
Jesus said you know neither the time or day of His return and He Himself did not know the date but only His Father. If that is so, why the clamour to proclaim yourself as the ‘Elijah’ to come, or point to someone as fulfilling that role? If so you are denying what Jesus plainly spoke. All is vanity as we read.

John said...


Comment stated: "...The Great Bwana then proceeds to link to one of his bouncing videos on why he is the 21st Century Elijah:

Bob Thiel then writes: "...Was John the Baptist the prophesied Elijah or at least a type of Elijah? ...Is Bob Thiel the final Elijah or one of the two witnesses? Why or why not?..."
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Bob Thiel, why/how may you be so "dense?" This subject has come up so many times. Why don't people believe Jesus? Here are some of His words:

Matthew 17:10 And his disciples asked him, saying, Why then say the scribes that Elias must first come?
:11 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things.
:12 But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them.

Jesus plainly said John the Baptist was "da man!"

If Bob Thiel, prophet falsely so-called, won't believe Jesus, then will he ever understand and believe Jesus Christ's disciples?

:13 Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist.

Bob, the disciples got it! They got "the point" of what Jesus was driving at! Why don't you?

And witnesses? Why would God choose you as one of them 2 witnesses? You can't even speak the obvious truth about Elijah and John the Baptist, while you continue to strive to exalt yourSELF.

The God, that God of Abraham Laughter and Israel, that LORD of hosts says this:

Isaiah 14:24 "The LORD of hosts hath sworn, saying, Surely as I have thought, so shall it come to pass; and as I have purposed, [so] shall it stand:
Isa 14:26 This [is] the purpose that is purposed upon the whole earth: and this [is] the hand that is stretched out upon all the nations."

God has already made the choice (Acts 15:18; Heb 4:3; I John 3:20) and He does not desire your opinion. Well, I suppose if He ever wanted your opinion: He'd give it to you, and you don't know for a reason. You don't need to know, and neither do I.

The 2 witnesses are God's business, not any of yours:

Revelation 11:3 "And I will give [power] unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred [and] threescore days, clothed in sackcloth."

They will travel around the earth, but end up in Jerusalem where they will be murdered. Do you, Bob, want something to do with that?

And you still believe in that Mickey Mouse millennium (Jesus very soon to come again to earth to reign for 1,000 years: then Satan is loosed from pit to mess that Jesus and earth up once again), don't you? Why would God choose you? He won't. God isn't that dumb, or stupid.

Would Bob Thiel choose you?

Time will tell...


John