Herbert Armstrong, The Scientist?

Did you know that Herbert Armstrong had a scientific mind and was so advanced that modern-day Creation Science folk believe what they do because of him.  Not only was he a great theologian but he was a scientist too!  This is from a COG blog I was on in 2007 that helped formulate this blog three years later.

This is from a group that idolizes everything that HWA did.

The church was in such sad shape by the 1920s with much truth lost, that God needed to revive it. What HWA was - was intellectually honest. As HWA researched, information came from many different sources, not just religious groups...but science journals etc. He was one of the first men I've ever seen publish the idea that the geologic column was based on circular reasoning (in his Autobiography). That is now a widely publicized belief of the Creation Science crowd.

Someone actually believed that Herb was ahead of his time regarding scientific research! 1880-1940's research as scientific, up to date and modern? Not a chance! When Herb got his sex education material out of books from the late 1800's and passed them off as new and relevant it shows that he was not scientific by any stretch of the imagination. Besides that, the Creation Science crowd are not scientific and still rely on mythology and silly reasoning to come up with its teachings.

The person who called HWA a scientist also said this:

We have all seen very clearly that when someone dismantles the truth (as the Tkach's did) it was like pulling a thread that kept unravelling more truth.

If Armstrongism was the truth, it would have never unravelled when Tkach pulled the plug on all of the heretical teachings. The greatest thing about the unravelling is that it can NEVER recover into anything meaningful!

I have seen people debate, tear down, and set themselves up as biblical scholars and they never arrive at the solid building HWA was able to build.

So where exactly is the solid building that HWA built today?  With hundreds and hundreds of splinter groups trolling society with sheer nonsense, how can any of them claim they rest upon a sure foundation?

White Jesus?

The Endless True Prophet Battle In The Church of God

Recently the Living Church of God posted fourteen points that Rod Meredith believed  were signs of Christ's coming.  Those fourteen points had the Muslim nations rising up and raising mujaheddin hell.

There are other COG self-appointed leaders who also believe the rampaging Muslims make for a good story.  However, there are those in the other side of the camp that claim otherwise.  The Chief Pharisee and bastardizer of the law, James Malm, claims the other COG leaders are all prophetically ignorant about how to interpret the Bible.  Of course he and only he is right.

The Chief law-breaker writes:

A few years ago Rod Meredith gave a sermon on “The Fourteen Signs Announcing Christ’s Return,”  This was then compiled in written form and published as a booklet.  LCG has been pushing this material as recently as this week. 

This article will analyze the claim in the Fourteen Points article that Islamic Extremism will take over the Islamic world and will coalesce together to become the biblical King of the South.  This claim is certainly NOT exclusive to LCG, but is championed by Bob Thiel, UCG and other COG Groups.   

I have covered these subjects over and over again at the sites so I am only going to analyze one or two sections to clearly reveal how they have departed from the scriptures.

The claim is that:    “Presently, the whole Islamic world in the Middle East and North Africa is being enveloped by a wave of resurgent Islamic fundamentalism. Islamic fundamentalist insurgencies, funded by rogue states and terrorist organizations, are trying to destabilize the moderate, Western-leaning, secular regimes currently in power, and are seeking to replace them with a unified, resuscitated Islamic caliphate (empire)—the prophesied “king of the South.” The final leader over these reinvigorated Muslim nations will be a tremendously powerful religio-political false Messiah or “Mahdi” who will draw his power from a confederation of those nations. He will provoke the key events written in Daniel 11, which must occur before the return of Jesus Christ to this earth.”   

Gerald Flurry is on record as claiming that Islamic Extremism is controlled by Iran and therefore Iran is the King of the South.

Rod Meredith with LCG, Bob Thiel, UCG and probably others, teach that the biblical King of the South consists of radical Islam which will take over and unite the Islamic world against the now rising New Federal Europe.  

Let us consider this claim in the light of the Holy Scriptures [my own convoluted reasoning.]

For well over eight decades the church has heard one interpretation after another about how the end times would be happening.  One wild prophet after another would come up with even more outlandish interpretations as the years went by.

From streets running with blood, parents eating their children to Americans being hung up on meat hooks in concentration camps, the blood and guts reigned supreme. Rod Meredith screeched this for decades.

Then there was Gerald Waterhouse with his 3-4 hour long rambling, butt hurting, mind-numbing, dumbed down sermons of sheer prophetic idiocy.

In the Pasadena area for many years, John Ritenbaugh was the prophecy guru that church members latched on to as prophetically true.

Dave Pack has suffered so many prophecy failures in the last five years that he has had to bull hundreds of articles off his web site because they expose him as a liar.

And how can we leave out Weinerdude Man!  Ron Weinland went on record in rather public way in San Francisco and has since been humiliated ever since.

And who can forget the utterly pathetic failed prophecies of Herbert Armstrong and Garner Ted.  That list is well documented here:  Herbert W. Armstrong's 208 False Prophecies: The Most Comprehensive Listing of Herbert Armstrong's 52 year record of False Prophesies ever made.

Never once in the 80 some years has the church ever had a single interpretation of what they thought the prophecies of the Bible were all about. Yet, today in 2018 the church is filled with one raving lunatic after another telling us all how it WILL be.  Church members are getting sick of the idiocy of the COG false prophets, yet they never cease to shut up!

What never crosses the minds of these false prophets and many church members is that if a church member was truly confident in following Jesus, then none of the blighting idiocy of these emasculated men would matter.  What ever is going to happen will happen.  Having faith in the One and resting in the One you are supposed to be following invalidates every single word these lying jackals spit out.

This is what the Sovereign Lord says: Woe to the foolish[a] prophets who follow their own spirit and have seen nothing! 4 Your prophets, Israel, are like jackals among ruins. 5 You have not gone up to the breaches in the wall to repair it for the people of Israel so that it will stand firm in the battle on the day of the Lord. 6 Their visions are false and their divinations a lie. Even though the Lord has not sent them, they say, “The Lord declares,” and expect him to fulfill their words. 

8 “‘Therefore this is what the Sovereign Lord says: Because of your false words and lying visions, I am against you, declares the Sovereign Lord. 9 My hand will be against the prophets who see false visions and utter lying divinations. They will not belong to the council of my people or be listed in the records of Israel, nor will they enter the land of Israel. Then you will know that I am the Sovereign Lord.