Satan Attacking God's Prophet: Bob Paul Micaiah Elijah Elisha Amos Jeremiah Thiel and He is NOT Happy!

Satan has launched an all out attack on the most important Church of God on earth today, particularly against it's leader, Bob Amos Thiel.  Satan is attacking his crediticals, his degrees, his ordination, his dreams, and much more more.  This attack is on par with the beginning of the famine of the word.  Satan's current attack is vicious and unrelenting. 

Prophet Amos Thiel writes:

There have long been false statements about me (Bob Thiel) on the internet.
Many come from people who completely fell away from the truth. Some, like fools, even claim that there is no God (Psalm 14:1).

Yet, there are others who claim to still be part of the Church of God.
On the internet, sometimes when lies are repeated often by various sources, many accept lies as facts.

Where has there ever been false statements about the lying prophet who took a simple ministerial blessing as an excuse to start his own splinter personality cult.  Its all a fact. 

Amos Thiel cannot stand the fact that other Church of God members find him to be a liar and a false prophet. From Rod Meredith and on down the denial of Amos Thiel's qualifications as a Church leader has been called into question. Everyone knows he is a liar and a fool, except for a few hundred opportunists that are interested in his money in Africa.  

Amos Thiel is particularly upset at John Carmack, whom I quoted in an earlier post.  John has correctly called Thiel out as an imposter and a fraud.  John calls out Amos Thiel's justification of using dreams to support his standing as a prophet and church leader.

Amos Thiel responds with a long post that actually never says much of anything.  But just for fun I'm going to post some of his silliness.

Amos Thiel compares himself to Joesph who dreamed dreams about himself.  Just as Joseph had dreams that came true, all of Amos Thiel's dreams have all come true...at least according to him.  Just as Joseph was mocked, so has been Amos Thiel.

First, if John Carmack would have paid more attention to the Bible, he would have realized that Joseph had dreams from God about himself (Genesis 37:5-10) and that he past on to others who criticized him for doing so (Genesis 37:10-11). Yet Joseph, and not the criticizers, was proven correct. Isaiah also had a vision/dream about his commission (Isaiah 6:1-8). So the idea that prophets cannot get messages about themselves to pass on is not true.

Next the prophet claims that he had a dream about Rod Meredith not talking to him.  What?  Who in the hell dreams about Rod Meredith not talking to them??????  Seriously?!?!?!?!  Dude...SERIOUSLY!!!!!

Second, in terms of results, one the of dreams I had clearly began to come to pass. I had a dream where Dr. R.C. Meredith, who at the time told me he considered me to be a personal friend, stopped talking with me–and this happened...

Like any good biblical prophet, the dreams of Bob Amos Thiel are so true that he dreamed that God was going to strike down Rod Meredith when he refused to listen and follow the prophet's admonitions.  Amos Thiel knew that God was going to strike down Rod and kill his wife.

Third, I did deliver a message to LCG minister (and then Council of Elder’s member, etc.)  Davy Crockett in August 2008 that one of the top leaders in that church was about to be struck with something if his word was not kept. Several weeks later, Dr. Meredith was struck with his first significant ministroke. I also attempted to convey a message to Dr. Meredith on December 19, 2011 that it seemed God was telling me that his wife was about to be struck with something serious. A few weeks later (per Dr. Meredith’s letter dated 1/12/12), Dr. Meredith reported that his wife (who was much younger than he) was stricken with stage four cancer (she later died on November 29, 2013).

There is one thing for sure about the god of Amos Thiel, its a magical god that COG members were taught to believe in. It does all kinds of fun cool things, like give strokes to people and kill them with cancer for ignoring the chosen prophet.  Can Thiel truly be this stupid?

Of course not!  God's spirit caused Amos Thiel to dream this!  It's a fact!

For these predictions, and others, I believe I was led by God’s Spirit to make them...

John Carmack correctly points out that Amos Thiel rebelled against Rod Meredith and the Living Church of God.  Amos Thiel is not happy with that statement.  He is incapable of doing anything wrong.  It's all LCG's fault that he left.

There was no ‘rebellion’ on my part. I asked the leadership of LCG to keep its word on many promises, and when it became clear that they would not do that, there was no alternative for me to do anything but leave LCG. I repeatedly tried to work with LCG, but as its leadership reneged on agreements and promises, it became clear to me that I had to distance myself, and I did prior to leaving–while still hoping that they would have the integrity to do what they promised and not teach errors that they knew their literature contained. But LCG did not have the integrity to lead the end time work (cf. Jeremiah 48:10) and since “the word of the Lord is right, And all His work is done in truth” (Psalms 33:4), I truly had to depart from LCG.

Two guesses as to who he now brings in to justify his actions...he's just like Herbert!  Just as Herbert went into a rebellious fit against Church of God 7 Day, so did Amos Thiel rebels against LCG.  Oh wait, that never happened.

What I did was reminiscent of what the late Herbert W. Armstrong did when he left CG7 

Amos Thiel claims that everything he has said is sound PROOF that the is not a liar.  How dare we be dismissive of this divisive fool! 

In this post, I have provided facts, scriptures, and links to back up my responses. John Carmack and others should realize that the Bible teaches: 

16 The sluggard is wiser in his own conceit than seven men that can render a reason. (Proverbs 26:16, KJV) 

I have provided many facts and reasons to back up my writings. John Carmack and others should ask themselves if they can accept reason or if they prefer dismissive conceit. 

Amos Thiel then goes into a long tirade about his bromance buddy Baron Karl-Theodor zu Gutenberg.  The good Baron is soon to be the leader of the Holy Roman Empire that will defeat America.  At least this is what the lying fool Amos Thiel keeps belching out.

Amost Thiel claims he is just like Apostle Paul and others:

What I have tried to do is follow Paul, Micaiah, Jeremiah, and others who have done this, though some have condemned me for this and use this as an improper reason not to believe what I say or write

I guess we can now call the prophet:  Overseer, Doubly Blessed, Bob Paul Micaiah Amos Jeremiah Thiel.

John Carmack also takes aim at Bob Paul Micaiah Amos Jeremiah Thiel establishing his personality cult for the money:

Here is another point John Carmack brought up:

4. Do the people benefit spiritually from the prophet’s ministry? 

No. The only benefit is Bob Thiel’s enrichment and supposed elevation of status. 

The innuendo from him is that I do this for money–which he calls enrichment.  That is completely and utterly false.  I do not take a salary from the Continuing Church of God, nor did I take one from the old Global or Living Church of God despite the over a decade of volunteer work I did. 

Bob Paul Micaiah Amos Jeremiah Thiel claims that he has 2,000 members around the world and has taken the gospel to all the earth. Yes he has, when pigs fly and Herbert comes back from the grace to whip the COG back into shape.  The delusional minds of Church of God psychopaths are endlessly entertaining.

As far as spiritual benefits go, around 2000 people say they are part of Continuing Church of God. I have personally baptized people from all the inhabited continents on the earth, except South America (and even there, I preached in Brazil). We may also have more materials in more languages than any other COG whose leaders were once part of the old WCG. Our magazine has been produced in 12 languages, in addition to English, to cite one example. And we are engaged in a project to get our booklets in several times that many languages.

That delusional mind is what makes absurd statements like these complexity false statements:

We in the Continuing Church of God are leading what I have termed ‘the final phase of the work’ (details are in the article The Final Phase of the Work). Also as far as spiritual benefits, in addition to our ministers, hosts, printed materials, and internet articles to support our members, we also produce sermons (ContinuingCOG channel) and sermonette (Bible News Prophecy channel) in English and African (CCOGAfrica channel) languages online. 

Also, I have done about 63 radio interviews since the formation of the Continuing Church of God in order to reach the world (Matthew 24:14; 28:19-20). And this does NOT include our Bible News Prophecyonline radio, which features both myself and John Hickey. Perhaps I should mention that I scheduled to do a two-hour radio interview today from a secular internet radio channel. We are doing the ‘Philadelphia‘ work (Revelation 3:7-13). 

Philadelphia work???????  Dave Pack is doing that!   

The Continuing Church of God has been the fastest growing COG since its formation in late 2012. It has exceeded the 30% growth in both membership and income in each of the years since it formed that the late Herbert W. Armstrong often pointed to as a proof of a blessing from God. While our growth rate will fluctuate, the Continuing Church of God is the only one of the ten largest COGs whose leaders had origins in the old Worldwide Church of God to do so. And we are on track for this growth in 2016 as well. 

Bob Paul Micaiah Amos Jeremiah Thiel's church is so mind boggling amazing that Dave Pack's superfantabulous Restore Church of God pales in comparison!  Never in human history has a Church of God gown so fast!  Even Herbert Armstrong was incapable of pulling such a feat.

Those that ignore Bob Paul Micaiah Amos Jeremiah Thiel are turning their backs on the spiritual food and nourishment that he has to offer. 

The fact that people like John Carmack do not want to get spiritual benefits from this work is sad.  Especially, because we can demonstrate how the Sardisian and Laodicean churches have serious errors in their respective prophetic understandings 

Next the prophet claims that Rod Meredith elevated him to the status he now claims. He now take son the mantle of prophet Elijah and Elisha.

As far as “elevation of status” goes, it was LCG’s Dr. Meredith who telephoned me and told me that God may consider me to be a prophet on October 3, 2008 and he told me in January 2009 if he was ever to appoint himself an apostle that he may ordain me a prophet, shows the view he himself once had. The fact that an LCG minister was later inspired to pray that God would grant me a ‘double-portion’ of His Spirit on December 15, 2011, and told me  that this was reminiscent of the passing of the mantle from the prophet Elijah to Elisha (2 Kings 2) then as well on on March 23, 2012, shows that this was not simply me taking a title, but accepting what happened 

Just how many titles can the prophet take on?  Every single one of them are delusions rolling around in his mind.

But never fear, God's prophet is just like Jesus, Paul, and Moses.  People criticized them all, just like they do Bob Paul Micaiah Elijah Elisha Moses Amos Jeremiah Thiel.

John Carmack and others seem to have little problem publicly bearing false witness. But we who will stand for the truth realize that many made false accusations against Jesus, Paul, Moses, Jeremiah, etc. 

We should all be blessed to have in our midst such an outstanding man of God.  It might make me reconsider about going back to the truth once delivered, now that I know exactly here it only resides.  

You too can read all of this wondrous truth here:  Bob Thiel Addresses Some False Statements From Accusers of the Brethren

Instead of reading Thiel's bullshit, check out Gavin Rumney's brilliant take down of Thiel's duplicity:  Bob Throws his toys at John

God's Most Important Doubly Blessed Mouthpiece Has Decreed The Final Word On Pre-Adamic Humans

One must never forget that God only reveals secret or hidden knowledge to Church of God ministers.  Whether this knowledge be on rather mundane subjects or the origins of the human race, COG ministers know it all.  As we were taught to believe, Church of God ministers are the most highly educated men on earth.  They have advanced degrees in studies of the fields they proclaim to know everything about.

Bob Amos Thiel has the facts regarding pre-Adamic humans.  Pre-Adamic creatures was Armstrongism's way of dealing with cave men that date back hundreds of thousands of years.  With a literal 6,000 year earth age, it is impossible in Armstrongism for anything to exist that early in history.

Did God make ‘prehistoric’ human-like beings prior to Adam? 

Many have wondered about this as various scientists and others have made claims.
But notice a couple of observations: 

Modern humans (Homo sapiens or Homo sapiens sapiens) are the only extant members of the hominin clade, a branch of great apes characterized by erect posture and bipedal locomotion; manual dexterity and increased tool use; and a general trend toward larger, more complex brains and societies.Early hominids, such as the australopithecines whose brains and anatomy are in many ways more similar to non-human apes, are less often thought of or referred to as “human” than hominids of the genus Homo (Human. Wikipedia, viewed 02/21/15)  

Scientists admit that all humans have the same mother, though they often consider that mother was older than Eve of the Book of Genesis.

Amos Thiel's DOCUMENTED PROOF is this:

Now, as used by critical historians, “prehistoric time” is said to refer to earliest antiquity nowhere documented in written records. But the Bible records, “In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth” (Genesis 1:1). Here is a documented account reaching back to the beginning of the physical universe. “Prehistoric time,” in that sense, is therefore irreconcilable with Scripture. It should come as no surprise, therefore, to learn that biblical passages reveal occurrences prior to the time of man.

So prehistoric time is incompatible with scripture?  Seriously?   I guess that means none of it ever happened.  Dinosaurs bones were created in the various layers of stratus because we all know Dino dinosaur never roamed the earth.  The bones were placed there by God.  But, if dinosaurs did roam the earth then they must have frolicked with Adam and Jesus.  Some Armstrongites actually believe this.

Amos Thiel declares that no humans that knew how to write existed before Adam.

If however, we define prehistoric as the time before humans began to write, then we can speak of prehistoric creatures and events. 

There were no prehistoric humans prior to Adam. Including others of the ‘genus Homo.’
As modern humans are concerned, the Bible plainly states that Adam was “the first man” (1 Corinthians 15:45), and he named his wife “Eve because she was the mother of all living” (Genesis 3:20). Adam and Eve were therefore the first humans.

What reason would Adam and Eve had to have had to be writing in the Garden of Eden?  Who was going to read it?   Was God delivering a daily newspaper so they could catch up on all the news?

Scientists and anthropologists are ignorant compared to the extensive research and knowledge that Amos Thiel has.

While there are fossil records of apes and other creatures that predate Adam, these creatures were not the same as modern humans as far God is concerned. 

But many scientists have tried to teach otherwise. The Bible reveals that they should know the truth, but do not: 

18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19 because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools, 23 and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man — and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things.

24 Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, 25 who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. (Romans 1:18-25)

According to Armstrongism, all higher education is of of the devil and therefore Amos Thiel is declaring that scientists are followers of Satan.

Many scientists have served the creature and would not accept the truth about life and humanity which they clearly should know 

It must really humiliating to possess a so-called "PhD" and yet have so little knowledge.

Why Rod Meredith and Herbert Armstrong Treat/Treated Members With Such Disdain

Link to article this is from is at end.

Those without structural visualization, including Herbert Armstrong, Garner Ted Armstrong, Roderick Meredith and a whole host of others, simply do not understand the universe or the world around them. They are linear abstract thinkers. They have no need of science. Their universe is magical — filled with all sorts of miraculous things which defy logic and science. There is a tenuous connection for them between cause and effect. This partly explains their lack of any concept of being a false prophet will lead to the lake of fire (with the caveat that the Bible is true). It makes no sense to them. They completely compartmentalize the consequences of their actions against the future in the universe and their world. They believe in potions (anointing oil), incantations and magic spells (prayer, fasting and prayer). They believe that the can change the world with the power of their mind (meditation). They can do the same things under the same conditions and positively expect wildly differing results. 

With Herbert Armstrong, there was an additional problem: His father had high structural visualization — he even, apparently, had a patent for a type of furnace. Ironically, it appears that Herbert worked for his father in a factory at one point in his youth. Understand though, Herbert Armstrong could never understand his father: It was problematic, because Herbert Armstrong lived in a universe quite different from his father. He could not visualize the things his father could; he could never do the things his father did. On the other hand, since his mother had no structural visualization, Herbert could certainly relate to her much better. 

Herbert Armstrong could never respect what he could not understand. He could not understand professionals, technicians and technologists with structural visualization. He devalued them. Their only worth to him was if he could use them and manipulate them so he could get what he wanted. This also contributed to his narcissism because he could never really relate to those farmers in the 1930s that became the backbone of his Radio Church of God. Later, in the 1970s, the image and perception of wealth attracted those without structural visualization into the Worldwide Church of God which aggravated the problems for those mechanics, farmers, technicians and technologists who entered into the WCG. Herbert trivialized them. He treated them with contempt. He saw them as lesser lights. The important people to him were those rich and famous who bolstered his image, both to others and to himself. He had to have photo ops with people who were just as deficient in talent as he was, but who had style and image over substance.

When Herbert Armstrong had his psychotic break and spent whole days in the Central Library in Portland, Oregon, he had found the writings of Greenberry George Rupert, which he found so compelling that he, through his magical thinking, believed that Jesus Christ was personally teaching him through the works of G. G. Rupert. He adopted them all in totality with no attribution, teaching them as his own — the tithing system, the feasts and… wait for it… British Israelism. Because he only understood magic and not science through his lack of structural visualization, he fell for British Israelism, hook, line and sinker. He would not have been able to understand DNA evidence, even as those today without structural visualization also cannot understand the DNA evidence, which utterly refutes British Israelism. It should also be seen that the other proofs that British Israelism is a kook idea would not have been understood as well. Archaeology debunks British Israelism, but because Herbert Armstrong and the Armstrongists don’t have structural visualization to understand archaeology, they are completely mystified as to why anyone would reject it. It’s because some of us have superior talent, that’s why. It doesn’t matter though, because who respects superior talent these days: It’s the rich, famous and well-connected that have the respect — it is those who possess style over substance and a lot of it. Smell nice, look good, sound right, and the world is yours. Well, not the world… society is yours. Society runs on magic not science, the same way Herbert Armstrong did. 

Read the rest of the story here:  2 of the 10 most horrible things about Herbert Armstrong