Did you know that when Canadians and Americans celebrate Thanksgiving in their respective countries that they are paying homage to the sacrifice of young virgins?
The Church of God's greatest Pharisee has this to say:
Actually the harvest feast was well known by these Indians and was a tradition practiced throughout the new world, as well as the old by the pagans. Thanksgiving is a universal pagan tradition descended and spread from Babel worldwide. Some of whom paid homage for the harvest by sacrificing young virgins.
Is it wrong to be thankful? NO, Definitely NOT!It IS wrong to cloak pagan traditions in the guise of being thankful to the true God. That is what Christmas, Easter and Thanksgiving are all about; cloaking rank paganism in an appearance of something good; of making evil seem desirable, godly and good: Of deceiving people into sinning by exalting the pagan pantheon under the illusion and false cloak of pleasing the true God!The big question is: To whom are you being thankful? To some pagan god and traditions; or to the Eternal Creator who has given us his own Holy Days to rejoice and be thankful on?
According to the COG Pharisee, Thanksgiving predates the Canadian/American versions by centuries. Its all the fault of those damn Catholics, pagan Chaldean's, Greeks and Romans. Its amazing how the bloodsuckers in Armstrongism do all thy can to strip any enjoyment out of life. Just because they are miserable little men who have failed marriages, major health issues and shitty lives, they feel the rest of humanity needs to suffer like they are. That's why they love to quote that the Christian life is one of suffering. Their life is miserable and yours should be too!
You can read James Malm's tirade here, IF you have time to waste on more idiotic nonsense: All About Thanksgiving
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Whenever I keep Thanksgiving, I always make sure I dedicate it as a day to give thanks to El, the Canaanite storm god.
Too bad Malm's god is just the Jewish version of the ancient Canaanite's pagan pantheon, Malm's calendar is just the Jewish version of the Canaanite's pagan calendar, and Malm's festivals are just the Jewish version of the Canaanite's pagan harvest festivals. Did the Canaanites sacrifice "young virgins" too? If they were pagans, then, duh, obviously (lol).
If Malm needs to be religious so badly, maybe he should think about upgrading to christianity some year or another, so that way he'll only be 2000 years behind the times.
Failing that, I think Malm should try sacrificing a few virgins too, pagan that he is. He could start with the "old virgins" (nobody notices when they go missing) and he could work his way up to the young ones (much more satisfying). As long as you do it by "stoning" it's kosher.
Or maybe he could just relent to being thankful in normal ways and not being such a judgmental f%$#@&g bastard 24/7/52.
Some people would have been horrible screwups even if they had never fallen under the influence of Armstrongism. Malm is probably one of them. He'd probably have a better quality of life if his problem simply manifested itself in frequent and copious hand washing, rather than this Phariseeism.
BB
Isn't that the truth, Byker Bob. Who knows maybe he would have just been a really fastidious accountant. Regardless, that ship sailed decades ago.
Malm is absolutely right. Thanksgiving is totally pagan. After all, what do we eat on Thanksgiving? Turkey! And Turkey is a pagan Islamic state! What is the turkey cooked in? Grease! And Greece is an ancient hotbed of pagan religion! What do people eat their greasy turkey off of? China! And China is home to three pagan religions: Confucianism, Buddhism, and Taoism, not to mention various other pagan faiths! Not only that, but people will be Russian to get home for the holiday, and Russia is.....well, you get the idea. Yes, indeed, Malm is on to something.
This poses an interesting problem, because ever since Garner Ted there have been NO virgins at church (or splinter group) headquarters!
Since I'm involved in training dogs, I like to think that Mr. Malm can be helped.
Of course, he's ready for a bowl of milk now, but not yet ready for a bowl of Alpo - or the word "NO!" when he gets his crazy ideas.
The training process may require that I place booklets and books written by HWA under his ass and getting him to piss and shit on them before we progress further.
Hopefully, then, Mr. Malm will be be able to progress to eating Alpo instead of eating turds.
Luv,
Ms. Wuufbonz
Time was, Herbert himself said some fairly positive things about Thanksgiving Day, even though that was in the midst of his condemning EXCESS (something which he certainly knew about) and that people were concentrating on football and without any thought of God. (There had to be more negativity than positive statements in any WCG writing.)
I haven't looked, but does Malm-ware offer any historical sources to back up his claims? Or is this just something else he wants you to believe because of some imagined Divine Appointment to proclaim "truth" he thinks he's got?
We've got an interesting conundrum ongoing here. Supposedly, we did not celebrate Hannukah because it normally coincided with the Christmas season, allegedly the mother of all pagan holidays. Yet, Jesus was at temple for this festival.
It gets even pickier and choosier. Was Jesus actually celebrating the festival of lights, or was He there to evangelize the Jews, a ready made audience of them present at that venue at that time? If He kept it, wouldn't that be an example for us today? If He was simply evangelizing the Jews, could that have also been the purpose behind His presence on sabbaths and the holy days, at least one of which John actually referred to as "the Jews' Passover?
Basically, we knew what we thought we knew because it had all been filtered through the Armstrong version of the Old Covenant. It would seem, now, to those who have read their Bibles from cover to cover, everything in context, that some of this stuff cannot be defined as specifically as we once thought. There are many gray areas that were "dogmatized" by virtue of church authority rather than by in depth analysis or rational thought processes. Malm, of course, takes his followers even deeper into this morass.
BB
Heck, if not for it's pagan roots, Christianity today would be up shit creek without a paddle.
I'm glad to hear there are no pagan holidays, and will try to remember that while people celebrate Samhain, Yule, Imbolc, Ostara, Beltaine, Litha, Lughnassadh and Mabon in the coming year.
Those holidays aren't my thing, but I know Wiccans that do celebrate them.
Personally, I enjoy holidays like Easter, Halloween, Christmas, and especially birthdays.
By the way, do you also know that there are no pagan gods, either? Heck, if there are no other gods for my favorite chosen god to be jealous of, I'll have to let him know.... that should calm him down, somewhat!
When a commenter starts by saying, "You are all wrong...", there's something very Herbie-ish about it.
I followed the link provided, and what I read was on the same wavelength - also very Herbie-ish, with only the most tenuous of arguments proffered to "prove" the preconceived points.
"Heracleion is also mentioned in the Twin steles of Decree of Nectanebo I (originally known as the 'Stele of Naukratis'), which specify that one tenth of the taxes on imports passing through the town of Thonis/Herakleion were to be given to the sanctuary of Neith of Sais."
So, therefore, since any connection with the "pagan" world renders an idea, a practice, etc. irretrievably "pagan" for all time, not only is a day of Thanksgiving "pagan," but so is tithing. Therefore, you should not tithe either...
"When a commenter starts by saying, "You are all wrong...", there's something very Herbie-ish about it."
I got the impression that that comment was sarcastic. Perhaps due to the overly dogmatic arguing style of comments.
The article has a point about paganism not being in the bible, perhaps gentile festivals would be a more appropriate label. As the Romans and Greeks did exist while Jesus was here and never called them pagan, and neither did any of the other writers in the bible.
Not sure how i can be critical of this fact, as much as anyone doesn't want to accept facts that contradict our beliefs.
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