7 minute video
After recently losing two ministers and some members, Dave is scrambling to recover lost income. He is hoping that a new money stream will result from two or more COG leaders dying and their members jumping to his organization.
In the video above Dave talks about how his god is soon going to intervene in ALL the splinters of the Worldwide Church of God. His god is getting ready to give a "signal" to all the wayward apostates of the LCG, PCG, UCG, COGWA and other COG's. That "signal" will be and attempt by his god in gathering up all the scattered members in the hundreds and hundreds of splinter groups back into the one and only TRUE Church of God - The Restored Church of God. Thousands will heed this new "signal" and thousands will not. Dave predicts an IMMENSE work will then follow.
Dave says it has taken him three years to discover the enormous events soon to happen. Apparently three years of epic failures has influenced his god to do something. Dave says that a SINGLE event will announce that the plan of his god is under way. Dave says that this SIGNAL will be IMPOSSIBLE to miss.
This SIGNAL will come in three events. The first is the separation of American and Israel due to the Palestinian issues and the nuclear deal with Iran. The second SIGNAL is that Dave and his little empire have developed a vast library of literature, a cutting edge web site, the initial staff and ministry, a headquarters campus with buildings and IMMENSE infrastructure and more. This second SIGNAL includes an "amazing campus soooooooooo stunning, soooooooo visually beautiful as to stagger the imagination!" Dave goes on to say that his magnificent campus is ALMOST complete. He incredibly claims that his campus parallels both Pasadena and Big Sandy with reminders of Bricket Wood England. Comparing Wadsworth to Pasadena or Bricket Wood is like comparing Harrods to Walmart. Pasadena is Harrods and Wadsworth is Walmart. There is NO comparison other than they were both headquarters for a church. Dave goes on to say his property can handle 100 more employee's immediately. Apparently he has employment papers ready to hire apostate COG members jumping ship to his superfantabulous organization.
Dave then goes on to smear all the other COG leaders. He says that they are afraid of what Dave has accomplished and that they hide form their members Dave's miraculous deeds and how BIG his campus is! 100 acres of superfantabulousness!
Dave then goes on to proclaim that a new video produced last fall will soon introduce the headquarters for EVERYONE! It is everyone's headquarters and Dave's the man!
The third SIGNAL is the recent speed up in world events that will wake up the apostate minds of the backsliding COG members in the apostate groups.
Dave claims that one or two leaders are praying for awesome miracles to occur in the churches so that they can do the work. Dave then goes on to proclaim that awesome miracles are about to come, but that these COG leaders will not be on the receiving end. Two guess as to whom Dave says will be on the receiving end end of the blessing his god is ready to dish out.
Dave says his church is experiencing many healings and deliverences daily and sometimes MANY in one day! Many more miraculous miracles will occur but they will ONLY occur in Wadsworth! Not in Charlotte, Cincinnati, Pasadena, Edmond or Glendora.
Dave says that all of the COG leaders out there will tell their members that this new message from Dave is false. He says to not let anyone change your mind. What is coming is SO big, SO transcendent in effect that no one will believe till they see it happening. Dave's god is ready ti intervene with the most mind boggling event ever that no one can miss. When that happens Dave wants you to come to his web site where he will have a message for you since you will not be ready to listen. Once you you see that SIGNAL Dave says to return immediately to this page. Dave says to not worry about missing the SIGNAL. You won't.
Damn, I'm packing my bags and heading to Wadsworth right now!
36 comments:
you might be heading to Wadsworth, but will they let you in?
Somebody turn off his hyperbole switch.
"A campus so, stunning, so visually beautiful as to stagger the imagination"
It's just frickin' collection of buildings and reasonably kept-up grounds, dude.
No imaginations being staggered, trust me.
Also, an unspecified signal so transcendent nobody will miss it?
I think this goes beyond just megalomania.
Pack really is psychologically unstable, tinfoil hat-grade unstable.
"(Magnificent)property can handle 100 more employee's"
Translation:
It is overbuilt and debt burdened - empty office space in that ridiculous "Administration" building.
Someone tell this guy that HBO's "The Brink" is not a documentary!
Soooo, does Davey not know what this unmistakable signal is, or is he just not telling us?
The headline made me imagine Pack had constructed some enormous Batman-style Pack Beacon, illuminating the skies of rural Ohio with the Pack symbol, created by refracting light through the oily smears of HWA's fingerprints on a piece of Steuben crystal.
Pack sounded a lot like the old "Emergency Broadcast System" announcements...
"This is a test of the Emergency COG Broadcast System. Our church, in cooperation with God and my own personal authority have developed this system to keep you informed in the event of an emergency. If this had been an actual emergency, you would have been instructed where to to attend church or surf the web in your area for news and official information."
BTW- Im waiting for the one miracle that might prove something from Pack... the healing of himself from his mental illness.
“The second SIGNAL is that Dave and his little empire have developed a vast library of literature....”
The fact that DCP finds it necessary to edit, change, and even totally delete his previous writings in his “vast library of literature” in order to keep up with his continually changing teachings is another SIGNAL that you should beware of him.
“The Feast of Tabernacles is quickly approaching and Dave is predicting another great reunification this fall.”
After David Pack's August 31, 2013 prophetic guess failed, he wrote, “I will certainly never repeat such a mistake.” Of course, you should not have believed him when he said that.
After the August 31, 2013 prophetic guess failed, David Pack wrote that they had discovered where the mistake had been made. Supposedly there were two different calendars used in the books of Haggai and Zechariah, and DCP wrote that a spring fulfilment made more sense anyway and that everyone would not have long to wait.
Now, here we are in 2015 looking for a fall fulfilment again. After that date comes and goes again, a spring fulfilment will probably start to make more sense again.
“Dave goes on to say his property can handle 100 more employee's immediately.”
David Pack has always had a high turnover rate among staff at headquarters where people can quickly see and learn what he is really like. This sounds like another 100 employees are about to get fired, left destitute, and called “bums.”
“Damn, I'm packing my bags and heading to Wadsworth right now!”
No! Do not do that! Have the patience and self-discipline and good sense to wait a little longer.
Those who carelessly believe David Pack will always end up being disappointed by the wrong prophetic date guess after they have joined the Restored Church and handed over their house, retirement plan, savings account, and unused junk laying around. Then they will get strung along to the next wrong date guess, and the next one, and.... At least wait for David Pack to be right about something first before you hand over your house, retirement plan, savings account, and unused junk laying around. Be warned that it could be a very long wait.
“Apparently he has employment papers ready to hire apostate COG members jumping ship to his superfantabulous organization.”
Those godless, apostate, money-hungry hirelings who complain about Joey Jr. of Graceless Commune not sharing all the wealth should apply to work for the money at the RCG. It should not matter to them which church it is, or what it teaches, or who the leader is. Being willing to compromise themselves mentally and morally for the money will not be a problem for them. The only problem will be that they might actually have to work for a change, and the pay rate might be around minimum wage, and they might get sudden, unexpected pay decreases to help fund some amazing new initiative that DCP comes up with. While the Tkaches did some very bad things, some splinter group leaders can be even worse.
David Pack can try to pass himself off as the greatest thing since sliced bread, but in reality he might just be the worst satanic impostor since Gerald Flurry.
Interestingly, it is often those inside the splinter groups who live in IGNORANCE and FEAR. Their false leaders keep them in fear with the scarey prophetic lies that they yell and tell, and keep them in ignorance by editing, changing, and deleting their old, wrong prophetic date guess material. The deceived, robbed, emasculated insiders go on hoping in vain that some wicked fool's silly guesses will somehow, someday turn out to be right, so they won't have to admit that they were simply wrong.
Those on the outside are often FREE to read, listen, watch, and accept the PLAIN TRUTH about what REALLY happens or does not happen when it comes to the prophetic guesses of the numerous self-appointed COG leaders. What has always happened so far is that the prophetic guesses have always turned out to have been wrong.
People should be thankful for the FREEDOM to watch as unbiased observers of the FACTS. Anyone who has ever handed over any money whatsoever expecting a prophetic guess to come true has always been disappointed. Anyone who has ever handed over their house, retirement plan, and savings account has always been even more disappointed. They both reaped in proportion to how much they sowed. Let that be a warning to you not to sow too many bad seeds. Don't let greedy false Apostles, false Joshua the High Priests, and now false Elijahs like David Pack talk you into betting the ranch when the odds are stacked against you. WAIT and let David Pack prove himself FIRST. Situations that require you to put up your money first are always invariably SCAMS. And there is never a refund when the other party does not deliver on his promises, even though he made them in God's name and therefore “guaranteed” them. It frustrates David Pack immensely whenever anyone chooses to wait and see what happens first, since nothing ever happens. If everyone took this approach, David Pack would never get his hands on any money.
This is actually not much different than what many Christian megachurch preachers spout!
Anyone out there still WANT to work for "THE Church?"
Oh, what a coveted thing that was back in the day -- a guaranteed ticket to the Place of Rocks for Sleeping -- er, Safety. Pack-man in some way thinks he still lives back then. He doesn't understand what a prospect like that really looks like, after all the FALSEHOOD that's come and gone. "You might get a job with the Church!" YAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWNNN!
I like where I'm working now. You can wear polo shirts (and JEANS on Friday!), and the company even GIVES you shirts regularly with the company logo. If Dave thought that was a good idea, he'd tell his people their salvation was at stake unless they bought several PCG polos -- at a price that gave the "church" a profit.
What if all of David Pack's members are the ones leaving the RCG? How many failed false prophecies can they take, before the con artist is revealed?
That 7-minute video called The Coming Signal to God's People is just the introduction to the scam.
David C. Pack then has a sermon called Fearing God--As You've Never Seen It!. Near the end of the sermon David Pack lists all sorts of ways that you can tell whether or not you really fear God like you ought to. Some are very good points that are true and make sense. Interspersed among the many reasonable things he lists are (like usual) some questionable things. For example, somewhere around the 1 hour and 38 minute mark he says, “You will do all you can to support the church's fundraising goals. You will obediently send 'common,' or no salvation if you don't. Some members who could absolutely help the Work in a huge way are sitting on funds that belong to God.”
This brings up the real problem. Greedy, covetous, lying, thieving, false Elijahs like David Pack just do not have any fear of God.
Maybe the signal will be that Dave suddenly dies. People might be less reluctant to join the RCG if he was no longer at the helm. Problem is, "loving" shepherds are all but non-existent in the ACOGs.
BB
Anon 9:32 wrote:
""Damn, I'm packing my bags and heading to Wadsworth right now!”
No! Do not do that! Have the patience and self-discipline and good sense to wait a little longer."
Ah, too late! Already moved over here to stunningly beautiful Wadsworth. I must say, this is staggering my imagination!
Buildings, conventionally mowed lawns, a few running streams and ponds, it's all too much for the senses, I tell you!
When that signal comes, I'll be one of the first to know, being here at HQ!
Already sold my home, liquefied all assets and cleaned out the bank account and delivered it to Pack by hand. Now I did ask if I could sleep in one of the empty offices at Hall of Ad, which request was denied, so I found a comfy little pad of earth in the serpentine gardens. Which should be safe until Security finds me.
The points is, I'm ready for the signal!! And all of you who failed to drop everything and move to Wadsworth will be sorry, mark Pack's words!!
I mean, has he ever been wrong before...?
Dave never created a lemon he could not turn into another lemon...
Well, I'm making my reservations for that special spot in the parking lot of the Wadsworth Giant Eagle for this Fall!!! I may even pack a few bags of fried pork rinds to take along in case I get the munchies.
And in other news, a die-hard group of Harold Camping groupies who still believe that 'spiritual' Judgment Day started on May 21, 2011 (the day when God shut the door of the ark of salvation) are speculating that the REAL end will come 1600 days (40 X 40) later around the end of the FOT this year... They even sell T-shirts!
http://fridaynightstudy.com/t-shirts/
Talk about a double whammy! So much to look forward to.
Ronco
Is Dave Pack still Elijah?
Michael said...
“I mean, has he ever been wrong before...?”
Only when he wrote something, or said something, or did something, or thought something. Otherwise he seems to be okay.
If Davey lays it on that thick with the things people can see for themselves (that campus has to be the most beautiful in the world!), you have to know he is taking you for a ride on everything else.
What is a wad really worth? Only Prophet Dave Puck knows for sure!
The only signal he will receive are the men in white coats from the asylum as they pull up to take him to the funny farm.
I took the pains to listen to his sermon - the long one - in which he stressed that people did not fear God, even those in his church. To this he stressed that people should pray that God would give them the fear factor.
Why would he do this? Is it because people are more inclined to think independently and finally seen through his scam? Apparently two ministers have quit, taking some members with them.
Someone ought to tell this SOB that perfect love casts out fear. 1Jn.4:18
1Jn 4:18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.
Packoflies plainly shows by his actions that he has absolutely no fear of God, but neither does he display true love towards the flock. If he had true love, he would not have ripped off people of their life savings, nor robbed the widows or orphans.
Comment was made saying: "...That "signal" will be and attempt by his god in gathering up all the scattered members in the hundreds and hundreds of splinter groups back into the one and only TRUE Church of God - The Restored Church of God.."
What gathering does Dave Pack have in mind? Is it the following one?
"Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him," 2 Thess 2:1
Is that gathering associated with the following "day of Christ?"
:2 "That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand."
Is there a scattering involved too?
:3 "Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;"
Well, there does appear to be a lot of scattering and falling away associated with Dave Pack, but what about that "man of sin?" For Dave Pack: who is the man of sin? It is something that has to be revealed. Was it revealed to Dave Pack, and if yes, then what is the identify of that man of sin? Satan? Dave Pack himself? Someone/something else?
The next verse gives some hints.
:4 "Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God."
The temple of God is God's Church, so if Dave Pack is associated with God's true Church, the temple of God, then identify the man of sin for us.
Dave has boasted and exalted himSELF and his campus above, it appears, virtually anything else on earth. Well, whoever the man of sin is, it is a counterfeit God, a pretend God..........some little god. Can we find it somewhere in Wadsworth, or must we look elsewhere?
John
Sweetblood777 wrote: "...Packoflies plainly shows by his actions that he has absolutely no fear of God..."
Dave Pack isn't the only one without fear of God. There was one in particular made without fear and is full of pride:
Job 41:33 Upon earth there is not his like, who is MADE without fear.
34 He beholdeth all high things: he is a king over all the children of PRIDE.
Is it possible that Dave Pack may be a pawn........a pawn of Leviathan, i.e., a pawn of Satan...........displaying some of Satan's fruits/works?
Once upon a time, Ananias, with Sapphira, a couple of pawns of Satan the Devil strived to "buy" their way into God's Church, but God did not allow it...
John
Arrogance personified.......the guys nuts
How is this even supposed to work? You're ridin' to the COGawa in Omaha on your Yamaha, and suddenly you see a "pack" of cigarettes in the middle of the road, swerve to miss them, do a "choof-boop" through a runaway garbage truck, and know to turn around and ride to Wadsworth instead?
BB
4 years ago he wrote that Christ would return in fewer years than could be counted with the fingers on one hand. Guess that 2016 is the year!
Since Pack-man is so much better than the rest of us, maybe he has more than 5 fingers on his hand.
Holy choof-boops, Batman!
Apparently, some packtastic penguinistic pachyderms want the wandering at Wadsworth!
who really cares anymore?
The biblical book of HAGGAI is the story of
the LORD's prophet Haggai telling
Zerubbabel the governor of Judah
and Joshua the high priest
and the remnant of the people who had returned from the 70-year Babylonian captivity
to rebuild the LORD's TEMPLE in Jerusalem, Judah.
Somehow, David C. Pack gets from this story the idea that
all the remaining, believing, former Worldwide Church of God (WCG) members
are supposed to join DCP's Restored Cash Grab (RCG)
and are supposed to give DCP everything they have
so DCP can build an AUDITORIUM in Wadsworth, Ohio, USA.
The timing that DCP claimed to have got from the story has not yet worked out.
The rest of the story that DCP made up might not work out either.
It is no wonder that some people are critical of the Bible and say that you can read anything you want to into it or out of it. Of course, the criticism should be towards the sick minds that do that.
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