Things are not easy for men in the Philadelphia Church of God, and it is even worse for those women and children under them. They have been conditioned to perform in order to please their masters and when they don't, the family structure and the government of God breaks down. Rebellious, cantankerous wives are to be dealt with and TOLD just exactly WHO is in charge!
Think about that: The government in the home is the same as the government in the Church—and the same as the government in the eternal Family of God! The government in your marriage is the same as the government in Christ’s marriage!These are more comments by Joel Hillier.
You must get the government right in your home to prepare for those greater responsibilities. You have to rule well! This is a critical job in your family—and God gave that job to you. For your family to function, you absolutely must fulfill this God-given office.
It is easy for a man to defer too much to his wife. It is too easy to back off, to let her handle the child rearing, to expect her to establish order. But that is not the way Christ operates.
The direction for the body must come from the head. That means you must hold to your Head. Then you must provide direction, guidance, leadership and nourishment so your wife can hold to herhead! Otherwise you are blocking the flow of government from God, and cutting yourself and your family off from some of God’s blessings.
If you don’t do your job, you hinder God’s ability to lead your household. If you don’t step up, there will be confusion, and Satan will fill the leadership vacuum.
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I would worry about that preacher putting his hands down my daughters pants!
Run from these people!
'Administering Gods government' in all the splinters, means ministers robbing everyone of their God given rights and adulthood. This mafia 'government' is an inversion of proper government, whose main responsibility is to protect peoples rights.
PCG's 1% should just leave the families alone and let them manage their relations themselves. Trust the people.
Speaking of PCG's 1% putting women down here is one passage written by the late Ron Fraser back in 2008 in which he talks about "bright, attractive" Israeli waitresses and he says they have a shocking "contempt" towards "the ways" of their elders but instead he really shows his own contempt and condescension against them.
And to think he mentions conversations with "bright, attractive waitresses" to start this complaining.
"In this, my first visit to Israel, my eyes and ears have been geared to sounding out the youth in the city of Jerusalem. I had wanted to confirm that which research had already indicated was a growing phenomenon within Israeli society, that the legend of the sabras is no more, at least in terms of Israel’s current generation of youth.
"Sadly, my observations have to date confirmed the worst.
"On more than one occasion, inquiring of the bright, attractive waitresses who have served us in local restaurants, I have been shocked at the degree of contempt they show for the ways of their forefathers. Young men and women who by day dress in khaki and tote automatic weapons as part of the Israel Defense Forces (IDF), by night seemingly throw off any thought of vigilance against their enemy and party on into the wee hours of the morning. Their religion, once a glue that bound the Jewish culture together, is now a compromise between the worship of celebrity and pop culture and some little degree, if any, of condescension to the ways of their parents and grandparents. This is a youth gone soft, just wanting the ongoing war with the Palestinian enemy to go away so they can get on with the good life." (Ron Fraser, Israel's Lost Generation, October 13, 2008.)
10 24 PM I corresponded several times with Ron Fraser via email, trying to get him to ditch his socialism light, and embrace trade. He rejected all my arguments. A person is in big, big trouble with God, if he doesn't agree with 'you reap what you sow.'
"I corresponded several times with Ron Fraser via email, trying to get him to ditch his socialism light, and embrace trade."
Is that you, TradingGuy?
This is another case of redefinition. We've noted in the past that it is weak men who will completely surrender their cognitive processes to these cultic groups. Yet, somehow, "true" strength and leadership are portrayed as only being possible through implicitly following the lead of cult meisters. This is classic cult think, ie what it means to be strong in the cult. Standing up to them has been redefined as weakness. They've got the members exactly where they want them.
BB
8.15 AM since you asked, yes,
As I said, I gave it my best shot, from quoting tracts on the metaphysical (the nature of basic reality, such as causality), and bible quoting, but he said no to everything I said.
Cheers TradingGuy
BB said:"We've noted in the past that it is weak men who will completely surrender their cognitive processes to these cultic groups. Yet, somehow, "true" strength and leadership are portrayed as only being possible through implicitly following the lead of cult meisters. ...Standing up to them has been redefined as weakness. They've got the members exactly where they want them."
Gerald Flurry as the Chief Cuckold Goombah for God shall lead the way. Submit!
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Maybe I was too harsh? But that is how I see it. PCG and RCG and others are co-opting your relationship to God. The idea that you can only have a relationship to God through them is some sick shit. The Bible is repetitive over and over again that you CAN have a direct channel to God and that God will be the judge of that, not Gerald Flurry.
Have a real relationship that works and that you can be proud of!
Comment was made saying: "...Rebellious, cantankerous wives are to be dealt with and TOLD just exactly WHO is in charge!..."
As the Philadelphia group would have us believe!
As if that weren't enough, Joel Hillier wrote:
"...If you don’t do your job, you hinder God’s ability to lead your household..."
Wow! Their "God" must be some sort of a Wimp, whose "ability to lead" can be hindered by the likes of some mortal married males...at least those associated with that Philadelphia group!
Then Joel wrote: "...If you don’t step up, there will be confusion, and Satan will fill the leadership vacuum..."
Well, well, weren't we told that Satan, the god of this present evil world, a real "wimp" compared to Almighty God, is the cause of confusion? Yes!
Didn't anyone explain to us what the woman should/would do relative to her husband after she was infected and infested by Satan's spirit (James 4:5; Eph 2:2; I John 3:8 (first 8 words)) dwelling within her?
"Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee." Genesis 3:16
And why not? Adam was infected and infested too! The husband "shall rule over thee:" the woman, but how?
Since they were both infected/infested by Satan's spirit, like some virus, than man would rule over the woman with the fruits/works of their god: Satan. Like what fruits/works?
Romans 1:19 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
Sounds like the "wonderful" world of today.....and Beyond Today! Again, what fruits/works?
Galatians 5:17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
Again, sounds like today's world! But not inherit the kingdom of God, too????
If that is all true, then we're all in trouble; aren't we? But Satan causes sin; does that vile, evil, thing not do that?
"He that committeth sin is of the devil..." I John 3:8
Well, maybe there is some hope for a few, but the many, the world?
"Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive..." John 14:17
It seems kind of hopeless for this world, doesn't it?
But Jesus said: "For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved." John 3:17
Whew! Phew! Thank God, for that! Unless Jesus lied to us, there must be something else going on than what these xcogs are telling us???
And Paul was inspired to tell us this:
"To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation." 2 Corinthians 5:19
Well, there appears to be a lot of hope for the "world," after all, but that Philadelphia group and Joel Hillier?????
Time will tell.......
John
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