One of the vilest teachings of the church that was brutally enforced over the decades was the "divorce and remarriage" doctrine/teaching. Countless stories have been told over the decades of loving couples and families ripped to pieces by the Church of God's vile stance. Most had probably thought those days were long gone, but it is not.
This letter was posted on Exit and Support and describes the vile and unChristian teachings of Jon Brisby:
I wanted to write and thank you for helping people who have left or will leave the "Armstrong cult groups." I was born into the WWCG. It helped to destroy my whole family--my parents, my siblings, and up until this year, even me. We all made some mistakes and bad choices on our own but Herbert Armstrong and his ministers, splinters, and even some members, helped destroy my family emotionally, just with the judgmental attitudes, being made to feel we were in "hot water" with God, telling us that outsiders were of the world, etc. My most recent minister Jon W. Brisby (Church of God, the Eternal) has even told me that my lack of financial comfort is the result of my "not living in a pleasing enough way for God." I was also told that my family is the "church" now and no longer my kids, since they are not members. Luckily, my kids grew up against the Armstrong teachings and have their own beliefs. As for me, I am finally what I consider to be "out of the dark" of these Armstrong worshippers. I emailed my minister two weeks ago and explained my decision to leave. He has yet to respond.
Church of God, The Eternal (COGE) is a small group. The lead minister is Jon W. Brisby (age 55). He has some wild ideas. A married couple came to the group from LCG a few years ago. They had been married for about 18 years. Brisby soon found out that the man had been married briefly to someone else when he was a really young man. They divorced and his ex married someone else. Anyway, this married couple of 18 plus years were instructed to split up and live separately but not get divorced. Jon Brisby told him that if his ex wife happens to die then and only then can he and his current wife live as a couple again. The couple have remodeled their home and made it into a duplex. They each live in one of the side by side units. They are allowed to go back and forth to each other's apartment for meal times but not allowed to sleep, shower or linger at each other's place. At the Feast of Tabernacles and Pentecost they were not permitted to sit together for services. This couple is in their 50's also.
There is another man, a single man around age 60. This man was also married but years ago his wife left him and married a Seventh Day Adventist. Brisby told him he must never remarry. This man said God would not allow him to marry unless his ex died. Brisby stays in total control of the dating and marriage relationships in the group. He comes off as very intensely and genuinely kind, but if he feels you cross him, then he gets an attitude and can be very arrogant.
--Kandice Cunning (Child survivor of WCG; Former member of COGE)Church of God, the Eternal has on its page the following which is used as a weapon to stop members from writing such things as was done above. They seek to create the myth that all of the things they teach are directly from Christ, passed down through the apostles to Bisby and others today. To deny what they teach is blasphemy and denial of the truth which separates the "rebellious" from God.
What God gave to Moses, He gave to Christ. What Christ taught to the apostles, He commissioned them to proclaim in their designated areas. What Christ and the apostles taught was the same as was revealed to Paul. And what all those servants taught is exactly what was given to an end-time servant (Matthew 28:19–20). For those who will hear, our purpose is to honor and proclaim that same way of life—the faith once delivered. In that way is found no part of the way given to Gentiles—people of the world (Deuteronomy 12:1–3; 4:1–40, Acts 14:16). We want the ways of God. We are not interested in any of the traditions or customs of this world. God’s servant of these last days at no time made the pagan customs of this world a part of the doctrine. The spirit which introduces change, and/or a relaxation of the doctrine is as much at work today as it was in the past. The called of God must be on guard incessantly. That spirit is a deceiver. He will do anything to destroy.
One concluding observation seems to be necessary. Those who believed and loved the Truth of God have remained strong, loyal, and faithful. On the other hand, it seems that everyone who was “argued” into acceptance of the “faith once delivered” has failed ultimately. It, indeed, seems like God is separating those who believe and love the Truth from those who must surely have accepted only on the basis of their own personal intellectual prowess.
Satan and his demons hate the ways of God. They will do anything to disrupt, challenge, and destroy. Such behavior is a manifestation of who and what the true people of God are all about. They persecuted Christ. In like manner they will do the same thing to those in whom Christ lives. The faithful of God will count it a privilege to suffer for the cause of righteousness. They will be persecuted and lied about with abandon, but these chosen children of God will know who they are. They love the Truth and will for no cause allow themselves to turn from it. They are the ones who will endure to the end.
Who are we? We are estranged members—a remnant (Romans 9:27–33; 11:1–5, Isaiah 1:8–9, Revelation 12:13–17)—from the apostate body (2 Thessalonians 2:1–3) who sincerely love God’s revealed Truth from the heart (2 Thessalonians 2:10), willing to remain faithful to the end (Matthew 24:13). That Truth which was taught by Christ (John 14:6; 12:48–50), that Truth which Christ commissioned the Twelve Apostles to teach (Matthew 28:20). Which was the same message taught by the Apostle Paul (Galatians 1:6–16, 1 Thessalonians 2:12–14). Which was the same message taught by an end-time servant (Matthew 28:19–20). Which had significant beginning with Moses (Hebrews 4:1–3). The Truth which is now obeyed from a spiritual premise (2 Corinthians 3:1–11).
These are the people that God’s true ministry desires to serve. It is our purpose to give you our energy and our love. Letter from Raymond Cole
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Anonymous said...Are you scared to ask them?
Thursday, May 11, 2023 at 4:35:00 AM PDT
Suppose someone did ask them and no matter what people are mostly carnal and overcoming takes years and decades so suppose someone did ask them do you think they would tell them the truth? If it is true and if they said it is not true since you are set on it being true, would you believe them? So why even ask?
Ask them and notice their reaction.
Mr. Brisby,
These six things doth the LORD hate: Yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, And hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, Feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, And he that soweth discord among brethren.
Proverbs 6:16-19 KJV
Stop doing them while you have the opportunity.
How to file charges over phone and computer hacking?
Is this in regard to the webcam and evesdropping in HQ office?
eset webcam spying ? Now i know why the office PC takes random photos
1 year in prison, losing your beautiful name, family and friends is worth it
Who got hacked?
Yea, Preacher John and Sis should have thought about that. They think they don't have to live by the same rules that everyone else does.
Reporting to Authorities, tracing soon
Somebody must have asked them and found out it's true. Hehe. These people are some disgusting hypocrites. Don't ever trust them.
You people hate tithes. That is why you are attacking Mr Brisby. He is a fine Pastor, paying all those tithing laws, He obey's Jesus what other Pastor gives tithes?
Tithing is not a New Covenant command. You can screech and shout all you want and still cannot prove that it is. It's a con game to keep the fat cats in the ministry living the high life instead of actually working and getting their delicate hands dirty. Brisby has never had a callus on his delicate hands because people cow-tow to him like idiots.
How do you think Herbert was able to hill his house with millions dollars in gold, silver and fine art? Tithes from gullible members because they were lied to that God commanded it. God no more commanded 4 tithes for members than he did one in the New Covenant. Real believers give as they've been blessed and when they see a need. There is no need for lavish HQ campuses, auditoriums. etc. It's all a lie.
And more tithes and special offerings to get back on track...remember?
Rather than digging into scripture, Bribesy is going to jump both feet into his favorite fictional bible stories and lecture everyone about his fantasy world of creation and dinosaurs from Basil Wolverton's Mad Magazine mind. Repackaged and labeled "The faith once delivered" #61. These crackpot hArmstrongite leaders might melt if they ever opened up their Bibles and took a course on hermeneutics.
He will find a way to link back to the dozens of marriage sermons while he secretly advises a married man to dump his disobedient & unconverted wife. Then the filandering man can secretly marry the preacher's sister. But it is ok if church leadership does it while low level members cannot.
Our Pastor will Bless all marriages, More members = Cash Jon Boy Cash.
My little children, these things write I unto you, that you sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. And by this we know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. He that says, I know him, and keeps not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoever keeps his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: by this we know that we are in him. He that says he abides in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked. Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which you had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which you have heard from the beginning. Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him and in you: because the darkness is past, and the true light now shines. He that says he is in the light, and hates his brother, is in darkness even until now. He that loves his brother abides in the light, and there is no occasion of stumbling in him. But he that hates his brother is in darkness, and walks in darkness, and knows not where he goes, because that darkness has blinded his eyes. I write unto you, little children, because your sins are forgiven you for his name's sake. I write unto you, fathers, because you have known him who is from the beginning. I write unto you, young men, because you have overcome the wicked one. I write unto you, little children, because you have known the Father. I have written unto you, fathers, because you have known him who is from the beginning. I have written unto you, young men, because you are strong, and the word of God abides in you, and you have overcome the wicked one. Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. And the world passes away, and the lust thereof: but he that does the will of God abides forever. Little children, it is the last time: and as you have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; by which we know that it is the last time. They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and you know all things. I have not written unto you because you know not the truth, but because you know it, and that no lie is of the truth. Who is a liar but he that denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denies the Father and the Son. Whosoever denies the Son, the same has not the Father: [but] he that confesses the Son has the Father also. Let that therefore abide in you, which you have heard from the beginning. If that which you have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, you also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father. And this is the promise that he has promised us, even eternal life. These things have I written unto you concerning them that deceive you. But the anointing which you have received of him abides in you, and you need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teaches you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it has taught you, you shall abide in him. And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming. If you know that he is righteous, you know that everyone that does righteousness is born of him.
(1Jn 2:1-29)
Born and manufactured by Jon Brisby, Church meetings very Artifical no food. Just plain Compromiser. Trades truth for his own myths. Remarriage is permitted under his blessing. Old Guy's allowed to take Virgin's with huge age differences. Most females of course are really not Virgin in his Church. Many lie, well 99% do.
Actually, most all of Armstrong doctrines can be proven wrong with the bible. Quit reading their own material for your research.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Born and manufactured by Jon Brisby, Church meetings very Artifical no food. Just plain Compromiser. Trades truth for his own myths. Remarriage is permitted under his blessing. Old Guy's allowed to take Virgin's with huge age differences. Most females of course are really not Virgin in his Church. Many lie, well 99% do.Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 7:15:00 PM PDT
ah,how would you know this? Are you one of those that want a younger woman yourself but since you already have a living spouse you can not have a younger woman?
Anonymous Jh Allen Poe said...
Actually, most all of Armstrong doctrines can be proven wrong with the bible. Quit reading their own material for your research.Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 11:31:00 PM PDT
So do this mean that you believe that when we die if we were "good" that we go to heaven and if we were "bad" we go to hell? If you had the spirit of God you would know that the salvational doctrine that Herbert W. Armstrong, Raymond C. Cole and now Jon W. Brisby teach are proved from the bible. But if you do not have the spirit of God you can not understand spiritual things. Stop using human reason to prove spiritual things.
And while I am at it Jh Allen Poe, you said most all of Armstrong doctrines can be proven wrong with the bible. Okay since you said most all, which ones can't you prove are wrong from the Bible?
Some of the things SOME of you people say on here borders on calling God a liar. Anyone can read the bible scholars probably can recite it word for word cover to cover but they do not understand what they read. It takes the indwelling of God's Holy Spirit to understand spiritual things. And God only give His Holy Spirit to those that OBEY HIM and that is not coming from HWA RCC, or JWB. True or false God says that if you do not have the Holy Spirit of God you are not Christ's. And if you refuse because of human tradition to believe the truth once it is revealed to you, you do not have the Holy Spirit because God only gives His spirit to those that OBEY Him. It really is that simple. All over this country and the world we have people going to Church on Sunday while the day before the true Day of Rest ordained by God, they worked, partyed, when to ball games, went camping, in other words doing their own thing. They kept mankind ways and not God's.
You proved my point, you broadly brush stroke all Christians as fools who believe in a loony tunes salvation. You only spew the vomit you've been fed. The only teachings of HWA that were worth an ounce were not his unique ones, it is the traditional Christian doctrines, the deity of Christ, pre-millenial return, 1000 year reign, two ordinances. However he was a garbage source to learn anything from, as a failed prophet, forecaster, predictor, however you want to call it. And a sexual molester.
@Anon 5:08
HWA was correct when God revealed Sivan 6 Pentecost.
Then HWA was also right when God revealed a Sunday Pentecost.
Then HWA was really right this time when God revealed a Monday Pentecost.
Then HWA was right, yet mislead when God revealed to him to go back to Sunday Pentecost.
The lesson here: Don't think, just accept that your religious leader is always right.
All 4 instances of Pentecost were PROVEN using only the bible and HWA's divine revelation. So which one is correct?
Answer: You aren't capable of thinking, just accept what your leader tells you.
Monday, June 5, 2023 at 4:53:00 AM PDT
Truth Hurts, two edged sword is the Word of God. Laodicea allows you to love older men. straightforward reasons. Jon allowed Fermented course of actions. Habakkuk 1:4 Open up Hear the Word , See how the faithful city has become a harlot! ?????????????
Harlot law is slacked, and judgment doth never go forth. Observe! Be astonished! Wonder!
You would not believe if you were told. The wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid.
HWA was correct when God revealed Sivan 6 Pentecost. ?
Then HWA was also right when God revealed a Sunday Pentecost. ?
Then HWA was really right this time when God revealed a Monday Pentecost. ?
Then HWA was right, yet mislead when God revealed to him to go back to Sunday Pentecost. ?
LOOK LOOK LOOK LOOK
THE Word of Jesus Never --------??????????
God had allowed divorce in His law, due to the hardness of their hearts, In this Case Mr.Brisby is allowed under Church Law. We need to obey him and respect .
A majority in this church, if not all, follow the man. How do I know? On more than one occasion, and by more than one family; I have been told that they have chosen to follow Jon Brisby right or wrong, because some truths or many of them, are to difficult to understand. Are they? Or has a man taken simple instruction, and made it so convoluted, that you cannot understand it, lest he explain it. Yes, that is exactly what has happened.
Listen, if you do not understand simple truths, then you are better off to go back into the world, than to follow a man. Either that, or get on your knees and get into the word of God, which is Christ.
If a church member can't explain their faith without appealing to their leader or resorting to insults, then it means they genuinely don't understand their church's doctrines like the rest of the world. This makes them "uncalled" by their own definition.
They resort to being a "member in good standing [with the leader]" as their substitution for working out their own salvation.
This substitution is condemned by their leaders from the pulpit being labelled "riding coat tails into the kingdom."
We all know the leader may condemn it officially, but demands it unofficially in the member's conduct in obedience to the dear leader.
Well said Steuben Crystal. Can you imagine the sick gut feeling people are going to have when they are standing before Christ having to give account, and all they can do is point to a man? And then say but, but, but I kept a Monday Pentecost.
I pity the fools!
Who are the fools? The fool has said in his heart, There is no God. They have corrupted themselves, and become abominable in their devices.
Psalm 14:1.
The Fools are not members in our CHurch Or Former Members for that matter.
Read your Bible!
You pitty people of God? God forbid Mr.T.
Atheism = There is no God.
All the peoples on this blog know God. We are not fools we understand Error and false Pastors. Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctines the commandments of men. For laying aside the commandment of God, YOU hold the tradition of men. Don't be vain .
First Peter 3:15 “But in your hearts revere Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have.
Brisby Hates Questions . What hope do we have ? Ask him for Prayer Request when your sick?
Brisby must give an account of his stewardship at periodic intervals. Such reports must be made available and accessible to all church members when asked.
Ask Him , Test Him, Prove all things.
SHUT YOUR MOUTH your oval-shaped cavity .
2:48 said "SHUT YOUR MOUTH your oval-shaped cavity ."
Aw, did someone get a boo-boo and get their widdle feelings hurt? Brisby is a false teacher. A fraud. H is only in it for the money. It is a con game to him. Stupid people continue to fall for it.
I must ask, are you awake over there brethren? Are you listening to what is coming from the pulpit? Are you in archeology classes, or church? Jesus Christ said to "feed my sheep". What is spiritual food supposed to do when you are fed it? Does it address your problems as a Christian, and help you as you leave services to go back out into the world and face another week? Or does it cause you to leave services feeling confused? Try the spirits to see whether they are of God.
I find it quite troubling that Brisby will use the Plain Truth to shore up some concept of his faith once delivered about dinosaurs, but will discount the Plain Truth as it applies to the church regarding Mr. Armstrong's consistently repeated phrase "don't believe me, believe your Bible". See monthly letter from November of 07 "The Bereans and Herbert Armstrong".
Ask yourselves brethren, Believe your Bible over a man? Or continue to listen about Dinosaurs? Read, pray, fast; because the time is coming when you will not be able to point back to HWA, Raymond, or Brisby. Christ will ask you; where was I? Think soberly friends.
Jesus is in Jon Brisby . That's how we hear today. We know and understand Jesus comes into the flesh Jon. Will you hear Jesus Today?
Dinosaurs are a diverse group of reptiles, Just like the people of God today. We are so diverse in understanding. We need to all be on the same page. Only Jon can have Direct Access to God through Christ . This special direct connection , Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God. Our Church is of God. Jon is of God. Fear that Fear the One and only Jesus on earth doing the work.
Anon 7:21 your funny. You must be a comedian. That much I will give you.
Funny Chuch of God
“Judge not , that you be not judged.
Our Church family will not sit and allow you fools to Judge .
Is a World Dictator About to Appear?
Herbert W Armstrong
Everybody senses that something is WRONG with the world ... that some mighty event is about to occur.
What is it? Bible prophecy tells! Here is a solemn warning ... and it is the plain truth!
Far-right surge triggers alarm in Germany
Germany’s right-populist AfD party has shot up 4 percentage points in the last 3 months alone.
Herbert W. Armstrong, Had God's accuracy in the forecasting of events leading to the rise to global dominance of the present European Union.
https://www.politico.eu/article/alternative-for-germay-far-right-surge-warning-bells-election-polls/
Head of domestic intelligence has warned of 'astonishing parallels' with the 1920s and 1930s
Prominent figures in Germany's political mainstream are raising the alarm after a new poll showed support for the country's leading far-right party at a record high.
Dark days
AfD ahead in Germany.
The rise of Germany's most successful far-right party since the Nazis,
People of the Church of God, The Eternal would be stunned-dumbfounded-if those would wake up and not reject Herbert W. Armstrong teachings on Prophecy. Prophecy shows 10 kings … will arise in Europe and give their power to Germany.” Herbert W. Armstrong made that statement in a letter in 1962—54 years ago.
A member has a wife who refuses to join. JB has advised him to leave his wife because she wont obey or stop wearing makeup. The member wants to get free of the burden of his wife and marry JB sister. JB and sis will need to let this member move in with one of them until his divorce is final because he cannot afford two homes.
Isaiah 30:9-13
10 Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits:
I'm convinced the last 5 comments are by the same person. Pretty obvious when you follow the pattern throughout this post. Nice try, but we are still watching 😉
Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 9:05:00 PM PDT
Now Repent you have all Rejected Prophecy.
https://www.dw.com/en/air-defender-23-is-a-large-scale-readiness-exercise/video-65875877
https://www.dw.com/en/germany-is-standing-up-and-taking-responsibility-with-nato-exercises/video-65875948
Isaiah 10:6
“I will send him against an hypocritical nation, and against the people of my wrath will I give him a charge, to take the spoil, and to take the prey, and to tread them down like the mire of the streets.
keep watching more- I send him against a godless nation, I dispatch him against a people who anger me, to seize loot and snatch plunder, and to trample them down like mud in the streets.
Will Christ join in marriage our Church like this ?
Jon did try to force his will on the family. Jon was going to preform the ceremony but backed out when the couple and bride's mother refused to drop an old family friend of many years off the invitation list. The couple had to change plans and had a local minister preform the wedding. The wedding and the reception were wonderful with many attending. Bill the guest Jon wanted removed told me personally he would not have caused any problems with Jon as they both had issues with one another. I've known Bill and Jon both for years and I am familiar with the problems that Jon caused in East TN by bringing in a couple of brothers who tried to rule over the brethren rather than fellowship. Bill was the leadsman of that tiny group and made decisions like you would with a cooperative for decades. Everyone had input but not so with Jon and the two brothers. My opinion is that Raymond Cole never did nor would he do the things Jon and the two brothers are doing. I know everyone of us have issues to repent of and overcome but sadly I do not see much of that coming from those who claim to be carrying the mantle as they say of HWA. Nicolaitans and people like Diotrephes are always with us. Those with eyes to see and ears to hear will recognize them for who they really are. There is still time to repent if not for the little one then do so for yourself.
Across Europe, the far right is rising. That it seems normal is all the more terrifying for Jon Brisby. He sould now Repent and Belive that HWA was Right. We are Wrong ! Even though you do not believe me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father.”
John Brisby should go play with his Frisbee! He's no different from the rest of them. There have been numerous reports about him and his group right here over the years. He has German blood line. Think about it.
I'm convinced Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 9:05:00 PM PDT could be Jon
GET YOUR MINDS OFF GERMANY, USA AND UK ARE THE BEAST POWER NOT GERMANY.
Sunday, June 11, 2023 at 11:01:00 PM PDT
Jon is a False Pastor he may make predictions that do not come true. ... The Bible says, “You may wonder, 'How will we know whether or not a prophecy is from God.
What nonsense! Mr Brisby has Christ dwelling within him and cannot make false prophecies. Of all the ministers and leaders of the Churches of God today, Jon is the best example of Godly attribute and is not tled down by whims of doctrines and changes like so many COG's are in turmoil over.
Jon has his ego dwelling in himself. He loves the power trip he gets when he interferes in somebody's personal life. And it's always in a bad way. How can anyone follow that creep?
Y'all ripped me off. I also slept with my daughter before Herbs made it cool. Ps, y'all morons.
Sincerely
-From hell
We the people of God, need to hear and awaken in which times we live. Why don’t we hear more about news as it’s pertains to end time events? Do we see the rise of Germany 🇩🇪? Who remembered Herbert Armstrong sounding the European Alarm 🚨? Today Germany is again leading European Unity. Who is a wise servant? Who is Christ dwelling in ? Who is that faithful servant of the church? We need to wake up. Satan the devil loves to make you forget your History. God Will never allow that to happen. Satan can blind your minds to the faith once given if you allow it. NATO is under German control 2023. Watch for the new president in Germany to appear in coming elections. Who will believe this report? The Children of Israel were always commanded to return to their roots. Your foundation was established upon a rock Jesus Christ. Upon that foundation Herbert Armstrong built that Church. We reject those predictions based upon the very words of the prophets in the Old Testament. Those were messages for the last days. Our Church rejects picks and chooses those foundational teachings. Lest you Forget.
Check this article out below. Why can non believers sense and understand but our church refuses to accept the prophetic teachings? Shame of our nakedness is apparent to all. The truth of the situation it’s not just about certain days or months.
Don’t be idiots accept that facts.
https://www.business-standard.com/amp/article/international/fourth-reich-to-be-created-russia-s-dmitry-medvedev-makes-2023-prediction-122122700078_1.html
Naughty Fruit Nut,
Only USA is the Beast System . Germany will never be great. USA went into middle east and what did you see? We killed those how many Iraq's ? 10000s. Americans are the great citizens and nationals of the United States of America . Fourth Reich USA not Germany.
Radio Church of God Broadcast - 1941
https://www.hwalibrary.com/cgi-bin/get/hwa.cgi?action=getbroadcast&InfoID=1475165300
Brisby loves to talk about how he follows the truth once given right?
Religious Deception and Babylonish Confusion by Jon. His own Weird, ridiculous theories. Bible prophecy says the strength of IRON will be in this final resurrection of the Beast, but also the weakness of clay. Which nation is IRON? Which nation had the “Iron Chancellor”? Germany, in the person of Bismark! Which nation decorates its soldiers with the IRON cross? Germany! Yet as any metal-worker knows, clay, if it finds its way into a mold where iron is being poured, will weaken, perhaps ruin the thing being formed. In like fashion, even though the coming ten-nation combine will be formed together by the unifying agent of RELIGION, under the great Universal Church at the behest of the POPE, it will not STAY together for long! Read carefully the eighteenth chapter of Revelation, and see how the BEAST will eventually “hate the whore” and make her desolate!
Proclaiming the warnings of prophecy for our times ? and announcing the good news of the coming Kingdom of God ? EARNESTLY CONTENDING FOR THE FAITH ONCE DELIVERED TO THE SAINTS?
Christians
Have Lost Their
POWER!
Probably YOU, too, are spiritually powerless!
Here is the shocking TRUTH! Read WHY your prayers
are not directly - miraculously - answered!
by Herbert W. Armstrong
https://eternalcog.org/media/Christians-Have-Lost-Their-Power.pdf
What was the radio church of God ?
Here is a clue for all of you who keep uttering the names of men as if they are some great thing. Worship Christ and not men.
God speaks to us all today via his true pastor.
Father, remove every stagnancy, delay and reproaches that is holding our pastors bound, set them free today in Jesus’ name.
After studying this blog I must keep in mind that the author has limited real knowledge of Herbert and Loma Armstrong and the history. Radio Church of God, Would speak out publicly declaring the gospel. The Holy Spirit moved the Radio Church by Faith, In October 1933, a small 100-watt radio station in Eugene, Oregon, KORE, offered free time to Armstrong for a morning devotional, a 15-minute time slot shared by other local ministers. After positive responses from listeners, the station owner let Armstrong start a new program of his own. On the first Sunday in 1934, the Radio Church of God first aired. These broadcasts eventually became known as The World Tomorrow of the future Worldwide Church of God. Shortly thereafter, in February 1934, Armstrong began the publication of The Plain Truth, which started out as a church bulletin. It was at this time that Armstrong began to make prophetic claims and among them were the claims that Hitler and Mussolini were the prophesied Beast and False Prophet of the Book of Revelation who would deceive the nations for a short time just before the return of Jesus Christ. This piqued the interest of his audience. The broadcast expanded to other cities, and in 1942 began to be broadcast nationwide from WHO of Des Moines Iowa, a 50,000-watt superstation. It's Very sad today we don't have the faith to do that very Work. Would Brisby want us all to know God allowed the Air time on radio to be a sunday?
Wednesday, June 21, 2023 at 10:43:00 PM PDT
what lies. HWA never started his radio on sunday! That's pagan sungod's day.
We are doing more "than any Church of God has done throughout the entire church age" Brisby would never preach on any Sunday! We follow the Law of Christ. Jon flying around the earth to help those hold to the real Faith. For he that is not against us is for us” (Mark 9:38-40). This blog is not for us. SO leave the stable respect here is not served .
@Robert Innes
Thank you for pointing out that right from the beginning HWA was making false prophecies that didn't come to pass. According to the bible that disqualifies HWA from being a teacher and spiritual leader. If people were following their Bibles they would have abandoned HWA and his false teachings shortly after he started. Only those who were following a man would defy God and follow a false prophet.
“ what lies. HWA never started his radio on sunday! That's pagan sungod's day.”
This truly has to be the stupidest thing I’ve ever read on here.
Pagan sun god day? Come on really, your not able to think for yourself so you just reguritate what you have been told? Let me ask you; who created the heavens, the days, the months, the years? Do you really think because men choose to do what God calls Pagan on any of His days, that their actions somehow nullify what he may choose to do on any one of them? I was unaware physical men dictated God. Seems pretty silly now doesn't it?
why do church people in this group think sunday is evil?
I need a few drinks to wash this blog down the restroom.
You may need to gain some knowledge from this blog instead of turning a blind eye to a charlatan.
Preacher's sister should be fired and excommunicated because of online romance with a married man.
We know, you keep telling this.
Watch the News. Turn CNN Hear the New inside Russia. Are we watching?
We never watch news. All truth comes to us from God's Holy chosen Pator
Anon June 27 at 3:08, what is a Pastor?
Who is Anon ? June 27 at 3:08, what is a Pastor? I know what you mean. Pasta is a type of food typically made from an unleavened dough. Drink Wine makes happy Spirit
Let's just stick to the doctrinal error, and outright hypocrisy that emanates from that group, especially the "one in charge".
The "one in charge" that you disparage is the very mouthpiece of Jesus Christ in this world. I would ask God's forgiveness rather quickly in case you are struck down for this blasphemy!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Preacher's sister should be fired and excommunicated because of online romance with a married man. Friday, June 23, 2023 at 12:11:00 PM PDT. Fired from what and for what. She does not work for the Church so fired from what? Fired from her job if that is what you meant then that would imply that she was messing around with someone at her job because to me that is the only way she could get fired for what you are implying.
Anonymous Anonymous said...why do church people in this group think sunday is evil? Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 9:04:00 PM PDT. Because from Friday sunset to Saturday sunset is the day that God said to convoke and worship HIM. Sunday is the pagan day of the Sun/Satan and true Christians are to have no part of that. Your god, little "g" got his ministers in the Roman Catholic Church to change the day of true worship of the Eternal God to Sunday. Also note what Sunday keepers do on their day of rest. For the most part they do what they want to do and maybe get in an hour or two of church service but before and after that they do what they want to do. Going fishing, swimming, hunting, football and baseball games, shopping, camping, etc. God say that His Sabbath is a Day a whole day of rest and not doing our own thing doing His Holy TIME. And to my well meaning friend that said that Jon would not preach on any Sunday that is not 100% true because sometimes doing a HOLY DAY a FEAST of the LORD, God's ministers do give a sermon. But on a weekly Sunday that do not fall doing a Holy Day, you are right Jon would never give a sermon on a normal weekly Sunday.
Prove he is the mouthpiece for Jesus.
Yes, the preacher and sister running this cult are disgusting hypocrites. They need to learn a lesson about meddling in people's lives.
She most certainly does "work" for "the church". But she doesn't have to follow the dozens of marriage sermons does she? Preacher John should announce whether online romance with people married to non members is breaking the church rules.
Anonymous Jh Allen Poe you said...
You proved my point, you broadly brush stroke all Christians as fools who believe in a loony tunes salvation. You only spew the vomit you've been fed. The only teachings of HWA that were worth an ounce were not his unique ones, it is the traditional Christian doctrines, the deity of Christ, pre-millenial return, 1000 year reign, two ordinances. However he was a garbage source to learn anything from, as a failed prophet, forecaster, predictor, however you want to call it. And a sexual molester.
Okay what would you consider the greater sin, to be a sexual molester or to be a murderer? Moses was a murderer and God used him to write the first 5 books of the bible and to lead God's people out of Egypt. And what about Paul he too was either a murderer or agreed with those killing God's saints. Did God or did He not use Paul perhaps more so than any of the Apostles. David was a womanizer but God used him to the point that under Christ in the Kingdom God will be over the nations of Israel. So are you saying that if Mr. HWA was a child molestor God could not use him too. People tend to hold anything and everything against a person but God do not once that person repent. Will God be holding things against you when your days are over with in this life or at His return if you are still alive. Jon W. Brisby never said that Germany was not the Beast power but that it was not the only nation that God could use to bring about the end of this age. He said to have an open mind because if you think one dimenionally you might miss it when it finally come. Looking for Germany and Germany only. Maybe they are. Some of you believe that since they started WW1 and WW2 that it only makes sense that they would start WW3. Maybe you are right. But what God really meant by watching is for us in the Church to watch our own spiritual condition that we will be able to stand before Him. For some that means before He come back in plain sight for the world to see, and for some that means our condition before we die the first death. If you are too busy watching world conditions and have not love for each other and the things or God, what is your religion worth. DUNG and Paper at best.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Yes, the preacher and sister running this cult are disgusting hypocrites. They need to learn a lesson about meddling in people's lives.
Friday, June 30, 2023 at 5:18:00 AM PDT. Friend are you not aware that if you are in a Church of God group that had it beginning with the Radio Church of God/Worlwide Church of God you too are considered a cult. To me being called a cult is an honor. And remember to the Jews and later on the Romans Catholics Christ true followers were consider a cult. So we in the COGE are in great company.
Anonymous said...
She most certainly does "work" for "the church". But she doesn't have to follow the dozens of marriage sermons does she? Preacher John should announce whether online romance with people married to non members is breaking the church rules.
Saturday, July 1, 2023 at 5:40:00 AM PDT
How and in what way does Jon sister work for the Church? You must know her very well to know that she works for the Church. People like you say you believe in God but you do not, because if you are lying about what you are stating then surely God would know that you are. So thread lightly my friend. God sees and knows all and HE hate liars just as much as he does those marriage breakers you and other on here keep posting about. Will you ever give it a rest? God do not need your help to solve a problem, just like He did not need our help to give man salvation. He controls everything and there is nothing He can't do, but a lot He will not do. Like make you shut your foul mouth because of some anger or hatred you have for a man and his sister.
OHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, I just re-read what you wrote when you said the following" Preacher John should announce whether online romance with people married to non members is breaking the church rules.Strange though because when you or whomever started this mess she was messing around with some guy in Texas that was in the Church now you just wrote that he is a non member. That changes everything.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Yes, the preacher and sister running this cult are disgusting hypocrites. They need to learn a lesson about meddling in people's lives.
Friday, June 30, 2023 at 5:18:00 AM PDT
In what way do tell does Preacher Jon's sister help run this cult. If you knew anything about this group you would know women do not hold high positions in that group unless they are deaconesses and I do not think the Preacher sister is one. But I could be wrong. Enlisting me about that one will you ?
Bob is gonna get in trouble for reading and commenting on this blog on Saturday.
Preacher and Sis own this church.
Are you so sure about these fake christians you are defending? JB and his sister own this organization and do not practice the doctrines they expect the members to obey.
Minister in charge hear wil you hear. Romans 15:2 says, “We must bear the ‘burden’ of being considerate of the doubts and fears of others. they need the devotion of a loyal friend Jon only loves his own. Conformed to this world lashy cars, the fast boats, and glamorous life in the fast lane, holidaying enjoying fine food's. esus addressed the hypocrisy of the Jewish leaders in Matthew 23:23. These men interpreted the Law as commanding tithing over helping the needy. Jesus said, “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites. For you tithe mint and dill and cumin and have neglected the weightier provisions of the law: justice and mercy and faithfulness, but these are the things you should have done without neglecting the others.” He is making a contrast between the importance of giving of our possessions (money or things) and living our lives in ways that make other people’s lives better. Giving for giving’s sake does little for our spiritual growth. In the New Testament, neither God nor Jesus commanded anyone to tithe money. But we are to love each other and “…as we have opportunity, let us do good to all people, especially to those who belong to the family of believers.” Galatians 6:10 (NIV) Doing good would include giving money to the poor.
So you think it is allowed for preacher's sister to have a fling with a member because his wife is not a member. Disgusting hypocrites.
any hot chicks at this church?
Over the course of his ministry in God’s Church, Mr. Armstrong met with over 300 world leaders—upon their invitation. While addressing them, he spoke forthrightly about many of the heartbreaking problems he saw in the nations he visited. But he always gave the nations hope; the inspiring solution of God’s Kingdom being set up on this Earth, which will solve all of mankind’s perils. Do you hear this today my friends
poor kim she married a child
Our Church needs this to happen. I wish Jon could turn our his heart back to his children.
"And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse."( Malachi 4:5-6
Anonymous said...
any hot chicks at this church?
Monday, July 3, 2023 at 3:44:00 AM PDT
Son if the only reason you are interested in any Church is whether or not there are hot chicks in that church then you are in it for the wrong reason and God would not honor that. And to answer your question, yes, there are many hot chicks in the Church!
Anonymous Robert Innes said...
Minister in charge hear wil you hear. Romans 15:2 says, “We must bear the ‘burden’ of being considerate of the doubts and fears of others. they need the devotion of a loyal friend
Jon only loves his own. Conformed to this world lashy cars, the fast boats, and glamorous life in the fast lane, holidaying enjoying fine food's. esus addressed the hypocrisy of the Jewish leaders in Matthew 23:23. These men interpreted the Law as commanding tithing over helping the needy. Jesus said, “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites. For you tithe mint and dill and cumin and have neglected the weightier provisions of the law: justice and mercy and faithfulness, but these are the things you should have done without neglecting the others.” He is making a contrast between the importance of giving of our possessions (money or things) and living our lives in ways that make other people’s lives better. Giving for giving’s sake does little for our spiritual growth. In the New Testament, neither God nor Jesus commanded anyone to tithe money. But we are to love each other and “…as we have opportunity, let us do good to all people, especially to those who belong to the family of believers.” Galatians 6:10 (NIV) Doing good would include giving money to the poor.
Your comment is laughable. And I feel only sorrow for you. Twisted in mind!
Rolando Flores discussed and negotiated with Brisby to allow and make a less strict Church. Why did Jon say the church people are his little Minions. Despicable to be honest we the people are not his Minions here in The Philippines. Jr allows us to eat pork and a few church people sell and trade pork. Will he stop this ?
happy soon Sabbath to all
What you eat is none of Brisby's dam business!
New International Version
For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit, We need real peace and Joy. Stop thinking about food, Want real joy and peace then get out of cult.
It's time we hear the news: A German county elected a far-right candidate for the first time since the Nazi era, 2023
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ap-nazi-thuringia-olaf-scholz-people-b2371660.html
Go, TO the lookout, let him report what he sees.A watchman, let him declare what he seeth.
Is a World Dictator About to Appear?
His headline gripped the attention of a handful of readers of the first edition of the world’s newest current affairs magazine, way back in February 1934. Up to the early 1930s, when the Plain Truth was born, most remained blind as to the meaning of the words of this prophecy. Just like the Church today in a state of blind and strong delusion.
Herbert Armstrong knew that the biblical book of Revelation was given by its Author not to hide, but rather “to show…things which must shortly come to pass” (Rev. 1:1)
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Are you scared to ask them?
Thursday, May 11, 2023 at 4:35:00 AM PDT
Since you seem to want to know so badly why don't you ask them or are you scared to ask them and if you are not in a position to ask them why not just let is go, what concern is it of yours that is between the parties involved and GOD. They will not have to answer to Jon or anyone else in the end only GOD.
You must think it is ok for Brisby to condone online romance between his Sis and a filandering man who has a wife who is not a member. Remember the dozens of marriage sermons last year. But church rules dont apply to Brisby and Sis, right?
Hello Brothers and Sisters.
Paul’s writings reveal a key feature of true prophets and prophecy, that is, “they build up the church.” Prophecy must always lead to the edification of the body of Christ, and not the division of it. Christ revealed through the Ministry of Herbert Armstrong that something Big was going to occur in Germany . Not Once do we hear our Pastor speak of that revelation that was delivered. Prophecy has been silenced and ignored. AFD in Germany is now on the world stage. In two years time you’re going to be shocked dumbfounded. The book of Revelation is alive and jumping right out of its pages. It’s going to take an earthquake to shake you all up. A New election will reveal in Germany the political power of Satan the Devil. The Beast will soon become established, once again who believes that Original revelation part of the faith Delivered. Who will believe this Report? Who will respond and return to original revelation? Who is wise and aware? Only those wise enough will comprehend holding fast. Keeping a Monday Pentecost should fill us with enough Holy Spirit to return and repent of ignorance.
This is not a church the lady who runs it is crazy. Chasing away anyone who dares park on the street in front of there place. Eugene police came and told me I was allowed to park there. The police sent the report to Freedom of Information Act FOIA.
Mrs Brisby sould not scream at Vehicles.
crazy lady if you park here
Address: 780 Bailey Hill Rd STE 6, Eugene, OR 97402. Bring your trucks and park outside . I will play loud music next time. This church are crazy people.
History keeps repeating itself the Germans are back.
The orca uprising: whales are ramming boats – but are they inspired by revenge, grief or memory? Just like those on this blog right .
If Jon brisby is God's one faithful servant, may God smack me right now!!! Oh dang guys I got bad news.. Just another cult leader, and his followers a bunch of sad sorry brainwashed ignorant man worshippers. Who woulda thought 8 people in Eugene Oregon weren't the only people out of 8 billion God was working with??! Darn. Maybe Brisbys god was taking a crap. Second time, may the God of HWA supreme pedophile false prophet himself strike me down if HWA was the true last days servant!! Oh dang guys again, nothing. 😂 😂. You've got an egomaniac, I got Jesus. I wipe my ass with plain truths and monthly letters. Thanks for the free TP 😂
Yea, word is out...filandering men like joining this cult so Brisby can give his permission to disrespect, lie, cheat, steal from their unconverted wife!
Dwight bulb servants of the one and ONLY true God do not speak/write the way you do. The use of some of the words you used in your post are not fitting for a brother in Christ. And how do you and the rest of these haters know what Jon is doing? Did he do or say something that you and the other haters in here do not like. But you all just prove by your actions that he is indeed a servant of God. Christ said that if they say all sort of evil things against HIM how much more will they say it against those that are His. And He also said that if we are to be followers of HIM we will suffer persecution too. And you people prove that every single time you post your venom on here. There are several splinter groups that are doing the exact same things you Claim Jon is doing, why, don't you go harass them. The ones that you can pour your tithes and offering out to for years and decades and when you come to them for help will not lift a finger to help you. No, no, no, your groups are the ones that are following a man. Jon W. Brisby do not force me or any of the members of this group to give and give and if you are truly a member of this group you would know that. All of this cheap talk about Jon having flashy cars and etc, do you no realize that he had a mother and father and that some parents leave their children well taken care of. And to be honest the only members we are losing are those that were not really with us to begin with. God rebuke each and every one you that have hate and bitterness in your heart with no PROOF of what you say. Those of you that followed Mr. Armstrong for years and decades know that He went off the track when he changed the doctrine of Divorce and Remarriage, and Pentecost. Think about it would God bless the church for 37 years with an average increase that came out to 30% a year when they were keeping those two pillar doctrine but the blessings stop coming once those doctrine was changed. You need to remember what the Apostle Paul said when he wrote, that not he nor an angel of God had the ability to change God's doctrine. If and since Mr. Armstrong said that God gave him the true day of Pentecost and the other salvational doctrines, then HWA not even close to an angel in might, had no right to change divinely revealed doctrines of God. The Church changed those doctrines back in 1974 and 1000s of people stayed in the Church because they liked the NEW teachings of the Church. Like who wants to be in a group that if you married a person and later on the marriage did not work out, would want to stay with that group when they are not free to remarry while that spouse is alive. Thousands of former WCG members are guilty of adultery and they like it so. But you/we do not have to answer to HWA, or RCC, or JWB, we will have to answer to God and Him only. Those three taught the truth and the way we are taught now is that it is the job of the ministry to teach the truth it is up to us to obey it based on FAITH. May God open as many as HE will, eyes to see and ears to hear but the choice is always ours.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
You must think it is ok for Brisby to condone online romance between his Sis and a filandering man who has a wife who is not a member. Remember the dozens of marriage sermons last year. But church rules dont apply to Brisby and Sis, right? Sunday, July 9, 2023 at 4:28:00 AM PDT.
You seem to know so much about what is going on and since you do why stay in a church that teaches such things you are free to go anywhere where you feel the truth about marriage is being taught, so why stay with that group? Anger and hate is not God's way but is a mark of the Beast and Satan that leader of all such. Just leave or if you are a member of that group, at the next Feast bring it up in front of all the people at what is known as the condition of the Church meeting on one of the Feast days. I can't wait to hear what you have to say. So I am telling you shut up or put up your proof.
and another thing do you believe in God fighting our battles or you taking matters into your own hands? Where is your faith??
Ask JB and Sis if online romance with a married man is breaking the church rules.
Did Brisby put you up to fighting his battles?
ole Robert on here again acting like an attack dog for his master
new member has a wife who did not join the church. The wife called the main office to get a copy of tithe receipt for tax purposes. Jon B. had flagged the new member's account to NOT give tithe receipt to the wife so to help the man hide money. Have any of you ever heard of such a thing? Sounds like a cult!!
Amazon has this "biography" of him on his book page. Just like Bob Thiel, Brisby's narcissistic attitude and spiritual self-importance make him out to be a rags-to-riches type minister in Armstrongism. Riches is right, as members complain about his flashy cars, homes, and indulgent lifestyle.
Jon W. Brisby was raised in the Worldwide Church of God by parents, Don & Pat Brisby, who joined the church in 1959. In 1968, Don was recruited by Herbert Armstrong to work at the Ambassador College Press in Pasadena, CA because of his expertise in commercial color printing. That is how the Brisby family, much like the Beverly Hillbillies, made it to southern California from middle Tennessee. Jon attended the church's private grade school on the Ambassador College campus (Imperial Schools) from 1968-1972. His own experience as a child "at headquarters"—as well as that of his parents during this significant time period for the church—would leave lasting impressions.
After 1972, the family moved first to Denver, CO, then to Houston, TX, and finally made it back to Nashville, TN, where Jon graduated public high school in 1980. He chose to attend one year at Ambassador College in 1980-81 as a freshman, but did not return for a second year due to his personal conviction that things were not right in the church, even though he still held a personal respect for Mr. Herbert Armstrong.
He joined Church of God, The Eternal (a remnant fellowship) in 1981 at age nineteen, was baptized the same year, and finally found a spiritual home through the influence of Mr. Raymond C. Cole. It was Raymond Cole who showed him by example how a minister can both defend divinely–revealed truth and at the same time show loving and patient support to individual members. Without that particular personal example, it is very likely that Jon would have chosen to reject his "parents' religion" as a young adult, even as most of his childhood friends in the WCG had already done.
Jon married at age 24, had two sons, finished his business degree with the University of the State of New York, had a successful career in corporate middle management, and remained a devoted lay-member of the church. It was in 1996 that Raymond Cole pressed Jon to become a minister, a course that he never would have chosen of his own accord. He was ordained by Mr. Cole on the Feast of Trumpets in 1997 but did not jettison his corporate career until late 1999 when the church was in dire need of more full-time helpers. He moved his family to Eugene, Oregon that year and worked as Raymond Cole's ministerial assistant until Mr. Cole's death in 2001. Thereafter, Jon became Pastor and Director of Church of God, The Eternal, a position of service he holds to this day.
Oh look you're rehashing the bs from the glory days of decades ago, typical. I can say what I said without fear because I know that I know that I know that radio and wwcg was NEVER God's church. It just NEVER was. You don't even know your own church history, rife with false prophecy and fear mongering from the beginning. I have no idea why someone who's a staunch believer would even be on this website, a site dedicated to exposing the cult of Armstrongism. All the cults think they are the only church, and they clearly are not, in fact, out of all the cults, Armstrongism is one of the most apparent as a failure. Mormons and Jehovah's witnesses and 7th day adventists still have thousands of members and atleast doing some kinda works, feeding the poor or adopting orphans or something. Armstrongists are a rag tag bunch of various egomaniacs vying to get their piece of tithe paying suckers who are still brainwashed by the old days.. those old members are dying off, and soon there will be nothing left, because there was no work there, just a bunch of suckers paying their tithes to madmen. The disdain is for false religions controlling people with fear and false biblical interpretations, not the individuals. I pray they come out of the heresy. You are not a faithful remnant of the truth. Ar.steong ripped off jh Allen, another cult leader of the sacred name variety. They all came out of the millerite movement, a false prophet who predicted the second coming in 1844... All these cults founded by men are daughters of Rome, following a different pope. God's true church are the people who are visiting the sick, taking care of the orphan and widow, and sharing the gospel of salvation of Christ alone through faith alone.
visiting the sick, taking care of the orphan and widow, and not asking for Money.
Your treasure is wisdom, your treasure is chastity and righteousness, your treasure is a good understanding, The disciples were watching gifts to the temple treasure as if watching a sport. Pastors Church leaders today watch your tithes just like a game of Get. Jesus is concerned with a church’s financial management. Part of giving to church of God, The Eternal church is the expectation that, on the other end, the church is actually helping people with the money it receives. The purpose of tithing was to give sustenance to the Levites who were responsible for taking care of the Tabernacle. Justice and mercy and faithfulness is the key for our Church. Christian churches started to copy the Jewish priesthood. (This was man’s decision and is not scriptural.) Christians wanted their leaders to have an honored status and to be special . The churches also wanted their congregations to financially support their priests/ministers, to build travel the world, and to commit to financing church work. If you belong to such a church, you have made it your responsibility to support the church staff and their works.
It is always best to live according to the Bible and not to add to nor subtract from God’s word. Since the New Testament does not command tithing (giving 10 percent), but does encourage giving, it would be wise to follow the scriptures. Honor your commitments but also help the poor. 2 Corinthians 9:7 (NIV), “Each of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.”
visiting the sick, How about also praying for the sick? Who are the sick in the Church today? The Very best medicine is to pray one for another around the world. But how can we pray with top secret health issues? Jon covers up when people are sick. Brisby know's it's an opportunity for people to express God's love to others but he stops that Love.
Tuesday, July 11, 2023 at 10:56:00 PM PDT
Hi Ann,
I must agree with your facts. Jon has troubling problem following Raymond Cole perfect example. It's a known fact monthly letters under Cole would state those prayer requests for healing. He claims to follow Cole and HWA, but he allowed and made many cunning changes. James 5:16 - Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed.
Watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints? Ephesians 6:18
Any Man that stands in the way of Christ and his sheep will be cut down. He must Repent!
cut down what are you saying ?
Remember What God Wants
Jon W. Brisby; Eugene, OR., 6-24-2023.
1 God wants and true honest shepherd
2 God wants His people to seek the good shepherd
3 God wants us all to show real love
4 God wants us to study His Word daily
5 God wants us to reject the priest for offering unacceptable sacrifices by dishonored God's name.
6 GOD’S CURSE ON THE PRIESTS WOULD COME IN THE FORM OF THESE JUDGMENTS upon Pastors and leaders.
7 priesthood would suffer the same fate as the dung: “and one shall take you away with it” They would be removed from their priestly duties.
8 God’s commandments were not just empty threats;
9 Malachi’s day despised God by not revering His name
10 Malachi’s day were corrupt and deceptive in their religious practices, they would not make right judicial decisions
11 THE PRIESTS’ CORRUPTION
12 Naturally, chastening is grievous and never joyous, but after it is all over, the fruit yielded in one’s life will be the “peaceable fruit of righteousness” (Heb. 12: 10-11). Repent turn you turn you back to the faith.
as usual the man Bribesy choose to make a minister in the philippines is the son-in-law to the minister who was there… nepotism anyone? its always the same in all the various COG groups
its laughable the little bio the new minister gives in the monthly letter, he was “unequally yoked” with Roque’s daughter in 2010, and became a member in 2014. what are his qualifications? #1 he used to hear his dad listen to Armstrong’s broadcasts growing up #2 he volunteered to do prayer at church #3 he volunteered to emcee at church #4 he is a good obedient yes-man to Bribesy
you cant make this stuff up these cults get wackier and wackier but at least they provide a good laugh
The New minister in the philippines Facts - An ox knows its owner, and a donkey its master's feeding trough. But Israel doesn't know; my people don't behave intelligently. Marriage between a Christian and a non-Christian will probably lead to a fracture of some kind. The marriage might break up because the two parties live according to different worldviews. When oxen are unequally yoked, they cannot perform the task set before them. The Church of God, under its late human leader, Herbert W. Armstrong, taught that there are ministerial ranks and functions God will never work in CHurch of God ,The Eternal because there is no ORGANIZED Work of God. God wants His Church to be organized in the way that was taught many year ago under HWA. We Rejected the Truth by following Jon Brisby and his disputes cause the church to reject Jesus Christ.
I am shocked that the New so called Minister was yoked” with Roque’s daughter in 2010. When people meet here in Hotels it's for sex. Why make a Minister that bangs outside of Marriage.
Forget all of this speculation you people make. This blog is kinda like The Hallmark of the Beast. Your all deceived, right? Mr.Brisby will ask God to curse you all. He has the power in Christ to stop anyone. So watch your mouths.
Dwight bulb said...
Oh look you're rehashing the bs from the glory days of decades ago, typical. I can say what I said without fear because I know that I know that I know that radio and wwcg was NEVER God's church. It just NEVER was. Dwight if Radio/Worldwide was never God's church, then I ask you if they were not, then who was? If the WCG was not the true church then have you found it yet, and if you have, shouldn't you tell the rest of us where it is. Is it your Church group or did you fall by the wayside? Did you give up trying to find it? To me it is very, very, simple, it is not complicated. Since HWA said that God gave Him the truth and you shall know them by their fruit, it the Church's case the incredible growth God gave to the Church doing those years in which they were obeying God. It was not until the changes that came after 1974 that the growth stop. Mr. Cole and a few others had the guts to leave the parent group that went astray. And Mr. Cole was the ONLY Evangelist rank minister that held on to the Truth. All the others ran with the herd. All through the Bible you will read about God working with only one man. That man might have had helpers but for the most part God dealt with only one man at a time. Moses had Arron and Joshua. Even in the Church at the very beginning there were disagreement in the ranks but they for the most part held on to the truth once revealed.
To that person that keeps on repeating to ask Jon or his sister is it true, my question to you is why don't you ask them? IF you are a member of that group why don't you ask them? If you are not a member then you have nothing to fear. You can't get kicked out the church if you are not a member. So go for it send Jon an email and ask him, you should find the email address and snail mail address and phone number on the website. So go for it ask away!
You are the one that should ask them if it is true since you are so sure they are so innocent in this matter. Ask them! This dude already knows its true.
Anonmous 2 Bob said...
Where is God's true church? Inside God's true believers. Duh. I'm trying to help you find it by helping you realize the measuring stick you use to prove God's true church is wonky. You think WWCG was the only groupe ever to have religious retreats and great times? Heck, any kinda vacation is great. You think you're the only groups that believe in God that claim to be blessed? Armstrong can not and could not have been divinely inspired because one, he taught the truth was lost for 1850-1900 years. HUGE red flag. He taught that he was a voice crying out in the windermess, an Elijah sent to restore the lost gospel. Except Jesus said the gates of hell would never prevail against the church. Hwa claimed God's true church started on a SUNDAY (Irony) in 1934. Go ahead and read the plain truths from the 1930s, and roll one up when your done and hit yourself repeatedly with it until you wake up.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
You are the one that should ask them if it is true since you are so sure they are so innocent in this matter. Ask them! This dude already knows its true. Then since you know it is true then based on what you are saying I do not have to ask them anything because you know it is true. Anyone can say something is true and since I do not know you from "Adam" I think I will not take your word for it. Since you know it is true, isn't it about time you just let it die? What is your point in continuing to bring it up sounding like a cracked CD or DVD. Okay they are doing what you know they are doing, if you are a member of COGE then you are free to leave and if you do not leave, why not, what is holding you there? Do you fear that they are the true Church and you will loose out on salvation if you leave?
Listen to your fine christian attitude. Is that what is being preached there now? You must think it is ok for Preacher John to allow only "certain" members to have online fling with a man who's wife is not a member; a man who makes big secret donations.
Dwight Bulb. Sometimes a response is so stupid and ignorant that it does not deserve a response or reply. Just thought you should know that. You are God and you know it all there is no need in replying to anything you post. I pity people like you, so sure of themselves and belittle others of their faith. May God rebuke you and all those that hate his servant Jon and speak foul words of hate towards him. Do some of you people know of inheritance and that Jon parent both died a day apart and they some parents leaves an inheritance to their kids. Perhaps this is the reason Jon drives what he drives in which you and others are jealous of. Sad just sad. Enough of this though. You are the tail wagging the dog.
Anon 2 Bob
Way to attempt to insult, but not address any of his points. Actually, we feel sorry for YOU.
Anon 2 Bob
Yas, Robert we know where Jon's money comes from. The same place Herbert got it from. It wasn't his parents 🤣
Who is Robert? Tell me
Hey, anon 2 Bob whatever, go back to the start of Armstrong's religion, the 1930s, hwa said the second coming would happen in 1936. And many other times, culminating with 1975... Name one biblical true prophet or apostle or whatever, who made all sorts of false predictions who also was still a messenger of God? Doesn't exist. Not a thing. You're following a false spirit and false religion and I, covered in Christ's blood rebuke Your false religion and arrogance. Wake up or suffer the consequences. I haven't been hit by lightening yet. Because your false prophets have no power over me. I am a child of God redeemed by the blood of the lamb. I am a priest, saint, and Child of God and I rebuke the works of darkness and manmade bullshit. Pray your curses. They will bounce off the redeemed and come back on you in the form of sickness, and your church which forbids medical diagnosis will have you die a slow miserable death to prove your loyalty, because you're a sucker. You're just another tithe paying brick in the wall. Or, you can have the balls to wake up and pull the scales off your eyes. You are not special. You are not 1 in 8 billion who are destined to be God himself. Blasphemy. Lucifer also wanted to be God.. guess where he's going to spend eternity?
When you park on the street you get twisted lady running out with a bad attitude . She yells screaming and throws rocks across the street. This isn’t Christian worship. Read the comments on Google reviews on church page. The police have been investigating this incidents. This Church doesn’t own street parking.
The people running this cult are not christians. This is a place where filandering men come to feel good about getting rid of the burden of their current wife who wont obey and stop wearing makeup. This cult has trained some desperate lonely women to be obedient and subservient which is what filandering men want. Preacher John will put his blessing on a do-over for filandering man. This is how they get new members and donations. If filandering men give enough donations they might get to marry preacher's sister. Disgusting. Gross.
What's with people always predicting the second coming when Jesus clearly said not to. I still like whole wheat though. And raw honey. No donuts for me
Dwight Bulb said...at least you still believe in eternity but tell me this Dwight since you do not believe that man will be God as God is God, what will you be an angel? Those positions are already taken and have been for eons. And the way you swear and use foul words are you sure you are a Christian or have you reverted back to Sunday keeping because you know and know that you know that that is the true day of worship for true Christians. It was Jesus Christ Himself as the God of the old testament, the these are His Feast Days and those days included the weekly Sabbath. I could go on and on with this but it is impossible to convince someone that God Himself have sent STRONG DELUSIONS. Mohammed said...
Yas, Robert we know where Jon's money comes from. The same place Herbert got it from. It wasn't his parents 🤣
How do you know that it wasn't from his parents. Isn't it true that parents that care and love their children do not provide for them like the word says, the word says that a righteous father provide for his children and grand children. Also is a servant of God worthy of his wages. Question??? If you were head of a church not just this one, wouldn't you take your salary from the tithes of the member of that church and if you did not how can you feed the flock while you are working a job. Remember the Apostle Paul said he could have taken tithes but he did not to build the trust. Do not feel sorry for me I know and know that I know. You are probably one of those that think Mr. Armstrong was the Elijah to come not realizing that he has been died for 37 years now. Did Christ delay His coming so that you can get ready?
Anonymous Dwight Bulb said... Anonmous 2 Bob said...
Where is God's true church? Inside God's true believers. Duh. Ah Dwight how can one convoke with him or herself? How do you within yourself keeps God's Holy Days? There have to be a physical place for you to do both of those things. So I am guessing you are a building. Very big person you are Dwight!!!
Isaiah 43:10
“Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.”. would you like to argue with the bible to fit your phoney religion? The bible makes it clear we will be higher than the angels. We will share Christs glory, but not, never, ever as Christ himself or God himself who is alpha and Omega. You are a created being.
The holy days? The OT gave explicit instruction on how to keep the holy days, which required the levitical preisthood and temple. What you're doing has no biblical provision. You are just keeping made up traditions, by a guy who was also a giant false predictor of world events and second comings. The holy days were symbolic shadows of Christ. In him all is fulfilled. Keeping the Sabbath is entering God's rest by being born again. You can do church on any day. The true promised rest, is the holy spirit indwelling. Hope you learned something bob
Id call following the religion of a false prophet despite hard evidence that he wasn't who he said he was, as being under strong delusion. All the COGs have dwindled, looks like this one dwindled even more than most
Response from Church of God, The Eternal
Dear Kevin Goode,
There are six businesses in this complex, including a church administrative office. Kevin, you are one of several who have tried to park an RV for WEEKS in front of our businesses. You and others present a threatening environment to our employees, and we will pursue every legal avenue to prevent this kind of "dangerous camping." We contribute to several community organizations to aid the homeless and those in distress. If you need help, there is plenty available. But feel free to tell your friends that camping on or around 780 Bailey Hill Dr. businesses is not a good idea. The property is posted, and we are watching.
Shirley Leslie
Mrs Brisby
Imagine a church that kicks homeless people off public property, but never thinks to invite or take care of them. Secret chamber Jesus must be well pleased. Don't share the gospel with any unworthies, they'd just suck up your 3rd tithe. God doesn't care about the sick and naked, and certainly not about the imprisoned and impounded. find a new home dirtbags, we're God's future Gods
Dwight,
Since you don't agree with the original Radio/WCG totally acurate prophecies and duhvinely revealed teachings, you obviously must be a pork eating, Sunday keeping, Christmas celebrating heathen, I rebuke you in the name of Hervert Armstrong's disembodied spirit.
I agree, Dwight most certainly worships the sun on the first day of the week, and eats the dirty swine. He/him is beyond repentance, and has committed the unpardonable sin, of not hanging a picture of Loma on the wall. Sure, she ate too much cheese, and all the enemas in the world couldn't clean out the colon cancer, but she is the Ellen White of the WCG and sacred to us true believers. Hail Loma, full of grace, blessed art thou among prophets wives. Give us this day thy husbands arrogance, and bless us with tithes so we may tithe our tithes to the tithe of all tithes. Amen. (Makes sign of the stake).
We thought the "church" didn't use the evil legal system. Such hypocrites. Didn't get an invite to church services to save their souls.
We are heading towards a far-right European Union . Germany, support for the hard-right AfD is surging. How many fingers can we all count on our hands. Can we still count.
Europe is 'doomed': Our Church was wrong!
The people in the RV didn't look like they had any $$ to tithe so they were shewed away.
Project blue beam is about to bring the second coming of Hitler with UFOs. Has the church forgot about Germany???!! Save us king Charles, who doesn't eat seafood also! Open your eyes astranged brethren. The beast with the wound to the head is coming back, Germany is on the rise. Will NATO nuke Russia?! The plain truth says so
Was an ok church until two ministers fighting over a whore ruined it. Next thing you know every dumb little thing suddenly became a dividing line, and decades old friendships were bitterly severed. Every one picked their favorite and became their clone soldier.
Let me guess, you must meen Raymond and Bryce arguing over BH?
you can not just blame one side on that mess. if the men did not have lust in their heart this would have never happen.
I feel bad and shamed because we never helped that homeless person. We have Jesus problem.
Preacher John needs to give a sermon stating if it is ok for members to have online fling.
The bear (russia) is about to strike, will germnay put down the sour Krout and meet its destiny? is this the last pope of the last days? Trump and Desantis the two witnesses? How can we know?! why by reading the plain truth of course, its all in there. Co workers saw this coming. I'm already at petra, where are you? plenty of onion matzos and vodka to share. Bring your tithes
R. Weinland already there! hehe
legend says that if you could see the moon on the new moon, you'd see the ghost of loma looking for cheese.
UCG member your of your father the devil 👿. Only our church is permitted to enter safely. You rejected 🙅♂️ Monday Pentecost. I suppose you’re remarried and Living in Sin. You need to reconsider drinking vodka, this alcohol addiction will allow satanic spirits into your body and mind. Mr Brisby is the only authority and authorised Servant on earth. We all must respect him. I’m guessing your father was an alcoholic too. Sure thing. Jon jokes regularly about you. He has cursed you already but asking Jesus to provide the curse upon you. Be careful Sir.
we send curses back. curse curse curse! may the pain of a thousand circumcisions with a dull knife fall upon you
A diff splinter group will be having FOT in a town a few miles from COGE site. Would the people from that group be allowed to attend services at COGE a few times during FOT or would they not be welcome?
They don't even like each other, let alone outsiders.
Can I have the contact details for the New group that were kicked out? I am seeking a new group that follows the bible. Thank you
One cannot just understand a coded book. You need a faithful chosen code breaker.
(541) 344-8880. Ask for Betty Hugill.
This is a true statement!
hey everyone, can I maybe get a drop of water from somebody? Also, she tricked me and took all my money. I think she gave it all to Bethel, that must be why they're doing so well.
PS. Herb is here and would like some water too.
Online flings not allowed in Petra???
Wow we've got some oldies on here. Betty H and Myron D. Ah the good ol days. FYI, Bethel no longer exists, Cogte soon to follow.
Wana come over for sermon and chill baby? We could pop some organic popcorn, watch some online sermons and talk about the different ways to count to a 51 pentecost, and see where things go from there (necking??)
Pastor and Sister meddling interfering advising a mentally unstable man is not gonna end good. Is the church properly licensed trained to deal with a dangerous situation? or only interested in the money he donates? They are going to let him move in their home when he loses his!
Bretheren, we must remember never to share the divinely revealed truth with people of the world, for they may become accountable for not keeping it, and destined for the lake of fire. They will get their second chance life during the great white throne judgment period. It's in the bible! Boy will they be surprised when they discover that recluse neighbor next door who was occasionally spotted with a suit and breifcase or 1980s padded shoulder dress was actually God all along. Stand firm, Petra or bust. Refi your house so you can stockpile brown rice for the tribulation. Germany is nigh.
Anonymous ucg official ambassador said...
we send curses back. curse curse curse! may the pain of a thousand circumcisions with a dull knife fall upon you
Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 1:03:00 AM PDT
Your curse will be on no effect if the person you are aiming it at is a WOMAN. So good luck with that one.
Then may the pain of 1000 bare bottom spankings from the ghost of Garner Ted Armstrong put you back in your place in the church- silent and obedient. We suffer you not to speak
Perfect for filandering men who want to start over. Desperate and lonely old women just hoping every week there will be a new lover join the congregation.
https://armstrongismlibrary.blogspot.com/2023/08/john-brisby-sinks-to-another-low-calls.html
why is he calling people names? is he trying to destroy his flock?
It's a retard thing, you wouldn't get it. You're clearly not called
if everyone left ,who would benefit from the all the gold and silver and homes people donated to the church? JON WOULD.
But what about Germany!
To all you Anonymous and UCGs on this site.
That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life; (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;) That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ. And these things write we unto you, that your joy may be full. This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth: But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked. Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning. Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him and in you: because the darkness is past, and the true light now shineth. He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now. He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him. But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes. I write unto you, little children, because your sins are forgiven you for his name's sake. I write unto you, fathers, because ye have known him that is from the beginning. I write unto you, young men, because ye have overcome the wicked one. I write unto you, little children, because ye have known the Father. I have written unto you, fathers, because ye have known him that is from the beginning. I have written unto you, young men, because ye are strong, and the word of God abideth in you, and ye have overcome the wicked one. Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever. Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time. They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things. I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth.
By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous. For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world,
even our faith. Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God? This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth. For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one. If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son. He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son. And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God. And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us: And if we know that he hear us, whatsoever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we desired of him. If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it. All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death. We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not. And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness. And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life. Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen.
(1Jn 1:1-5:21)
By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous. For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world,
even our faith. Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God? This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth. For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one. If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son. He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son. And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God. And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us: And if we know that he hear us, whatsoever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we desired of him. If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it. All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death. We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not. And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness. And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life. Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen.
(1Jn 1:1-5:21)
And part of keeping Christ commandments is calling out heretics and false prophets. And those who say they're Jews, but are not. And those nicolaitans, which thing God Hates. Not giving heed to those saying look, here is Christ, or there is Christ (in the flesh as a cog preacher). Summary: HWA, heretic, probably in hell. Almost all COG leaders, probably in the hell they didn't believe in. Holy days made up by hwa? Waste of time. Sabbath? The day never delivered the rest we have in Christ. Summary: COG is a cult. Further summary: if you avoid the reality of decades of false predictions, tithe abuse and fear mongering, youre an idolator.
I don't need to be preached at on this site. short comments is enough no a sermonette.
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