Wednesday, April 18, 2018

Church of God, The Eternal's Jon Brisby Sinks To A New Vile Low



One of the vilest teachings of the church that was brutally enforced over the decades was the "divorce and remarriage" doctrine/teaching.  Countless stories have been told over the decades of loving couples and families ripped to pieces by the Church of God's vile stance.  Most had probably thought those days were long gone, but it is not.

This letter was posted on Exit and Support and describes the vile and unChristian teachings of Jon Brisby:

I wanted to write and thank you for helping people who have left or will leave the "Armstrong cult groups." I was born into the WWCG. It helped to destroy my whole family--my parents, my siblings, and up until this year, even me. We all made some mistakes and bad choices on our own but Herbert Armstrong and his ministers, splinters, and even some members, helped destroy my family emotionally, just with the judgmental attitudes, being made to feel we were in "hot water" with God, telling us that outsiders were of the world, etc. My most recent minister Jon W. Brisby (Church of God, the Eternal) has even told me that my lack of financial comfort is the result of my "not living in a pleasing enough way for God." I was also told that my family is the "church" now and no longer my kids, since they are not members. Luckily, my kids grew up against the Armstrong teachings and have their own beliefs. As for me, I am finally what I consider to be "out of the dark" of these Armstrong worshippers. I emailed my minister two weeks ago and explained my decision to leave. He has yet to respond. 
Church of God, The Eternal (COGE) is a small group. The lead minister is Jon W. Brisby (age 55). He has some wild ideas. A married couple came to the group from LCG a few years ago. They had been married for about 18 years. Brisby soon found out that the man had been married briefly to someone else when he was a really young man. They divorced and his ex married someone else. Anyway, this married couple of 18 plus years were instructed to split up and live separately but not get divorced. Jon Brisby told him that if his ex wife happens to die then and only then can he and his current wife live as a couple again. The couple have remodeled their home and made it into a duplex. They each live in one of the side by side units. They are allowed to go back and forth to each other's apartment for meal times but not allowed to sleep, shower or linger at each other's place. At the Feast of Tabernacles and Pentecost they were not permitted to sit together for services. This couple is in their 50's also.
There is another man, a single man around age 60. This man was also married but years ago his wife left him and married a Seventh Day Adventist. Brisby told him he must never remarry. This man said God would not allow him to marry unless his ex died. Brisby stays in total control of the dating and marriage relationships in the group. He comes off as very intensely and genuinely kind, but if he feels you cross him, then he gets an attitude and can be very arrogant. 
--Kandice Cunning (Child survivor of WCG; Former member of COGE)
Church of God, the Eternal has on its page the following which is used as a weapon to stop members from writing such things as was done above.  They seek to create the myth that all of the things they teach are directly from Christ, passed down through the apostles to Bisby and others today.  To deny what they teach is blasphemy and denial of the truth which separates the "rebellious" from God.

What God gave to Moses, He gave to Christ. What Christ taught to the apostles, He commissioned them to proclaim in their designated areas. What Christ and the apostles taught was the same as was revealed to Paul. And what all those servants taught is exactly what was given to an end-time servant (Matthew 28:19–20). For those who will hear, our purpose is to honor and proclaim that same way of life—the faith once delivered. In that way is found no part of the way given to Gentiles—people of the world (Deuteronomy 12:1–3; 4:1–40, Acts 14:16). We want the ways of God. We are not interested in any of the traditions or customs of this world. God’s servant of these last days at no time made the pagan customs of this world a part of the doctrine. The spirit which introduces change, and/or a relaxation of the doctrine is as much at work today as it was in the past. The called of God must be on guard incessantly. That spirit is a deceiver. He will do anything to destroy.
One concluding observation seems to be necessary. Those who believed and loved the Truth of God have remained strong, loyal, and faithful. On the other hand, it seems that everyone who was “argued” into acceptance of the “faith once delivered” has failed ultimately. It, indeed, seems like God is separating those who believe and love the Truth from those who must surely have accepted only on the basis of their own personal intellectual prowess.
Satan and his demons hate the ways of God. They will do anything to disrupt, challenge, and destroy. Such behavior is a manifestation of who and what the true people of God are all about. They persecuted Christ. In like manner they will do the same thing to those in whom Christ lives. The faithful of God will count it a privilege to suffer for the cause of righteousness. They will be persecuted and lied about with abandon, but these chosen children of God will know who they are. They love the Truth and will for no cause allow themselves to turn from it. They are the ones who will endure to the end.
Who are we? We are estranged members—a remnant (Romans 9:27–33; 11:1–5, Isaiah 1:8–9, Revelation 12:13–17)—from the apostate body (2 Thessalonians 2:1–3) who sincerely love God’s revealed Truth from the heart (2 Thessalonians 2:10), willing to remain faithful to the end (Matthew 24:13). That Truth which was taught by Christ (John 14:6; 12:48–50), that Truth which Christ commissioned the Twelve Apostles to teach (Matthew 28:20). Which was the same message taught by the Apostle Paul (Galatians 1:6–16, 1 Thessalonians 2:12–14). Which was the same message taught by an end-time servant (Matthew 28:19–20). Which had significant beginning with Moses (Hebrews 4:1–3). The Truth which is now obeyed from a spiritual premise (2 Corinthians 3:1–11).
These are the people that God’s true ministry desires to serve. It is our purpose to give you our energy and our love.  Letter from Raymond Cole



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Jackson Jr said...

Doesn’t matter just ignore those stupid requests for money. God requires spiritual sacrifices not the old letter of the law . Writing it upon our hearts and minds is the message of Christ. Faith without works is dead. But not the works of the flesh but of the spirit. Building your spiritual journey is worth more than giving financial support to a faithless work unwilling to step out on faith and proclaim Christ.

Anonymous said...

Your group is totally blinded and are perishing because you received not the love of the Truth. Can you see our United States is falling apart and we have lost pride in our power. We have become broken. Those pastors are drunk and refuse to accept the realities of our time in which we live.

Anonymous said...

Jon has interpreted nothing. He exudes arrogance which is not the spirit of Christ.

Anonymous said...

Well if He is not able to interpret the Bible his not a true Minister. I have become aware of your arrogance July 10, 2020 at 15:15AM. I hope this illustrates.

Anonymous said...

July 10, 2020 at 5:15 AM Humble yourself. Re Study the History of the True Church. Prophecy has and is being fulfilled . How many Sea Gates left ? false assumptions of Brisby simply BLINDED HIS MIND TO THE TRUTH

Anonymous said...

I am Jesus. I have sent My angel to you with these words to the churches. I am the beginning of David and of his family. I am the bright Morning Star.” Revelation 22:13-16.

The Name Lucifer has Never Belonged to Satan

https://www.franknelte.net/article.php?article_id=214

Anonymous said...

THE NAME "LUCIFER" WAS COINED BY THEOLOGIANS OF THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH! AND THEY COINED THIS WORD AS A NAME FOR SATAN!

https://www.franknelte.net/article.php?article_id=214

Michael said...

Amazing article above. I know we have been deceived . That website is certainly getting in the face of church Members.

Anonymous said...

Frank Nelte is just as demon-possessed as Jon Bisby. Both preach heresy and outright filth. The idea that Jesus is present in Brisby is blasphemous.

Anonymous said...

Seven employees at Eugene grocery store test positive for COVID-19 Stay home folks. My home isn’t open for church anytime soon. This church attending pressure is getting serious.

Anonymous said...

hey you Men of Israel follow me .

https://www.youtube.com/c/repairingthebreachandsettingthecaptivesfree/videos

Anonymous said...

I was listening to one of Mr Bisby’s sermons tonight and it is obvious that Christ speaks directly through him. It as awe inspiring how godly he is as an instrument through which Christ makes his presence known to us. Christ is literally in our midst. Amazing things are ahead for this most miraculous work. I can’t wait for Passover this coming spring when Christ himself will preside embodied in Mr. Bisby.

Anonymous said...

July 14, 2020 at 10:02 PM.

I would agree truly Many Miracles and Works are with Mr. Brisby". My brothers and sisters, this Man Jon of Jesus . Jesus, Stand Among Us and his spirit filled Pastor is our dear leader. So many times i hear Jesus and other voices are devil Satan. Only One true Church. Jesus does come back to our Church and he stand's in our atmosphere of Love. Ask The Lord that he may give you visibility to see Jesus. Most High rule in the kingdom of men . Our Church is the Only real true Kingdom of Jesus upon earth. Come all you that are Thirst . Our Pastor is the only man on earth that that know's truth! Jon has characteristic of Jesus in his Flesh.

Anonymous said...

Are You Listening to the Right Voices?

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXL6kvDyoQpvtaeafC4pLyg

Anonymous said...

Jon Brisby interpreted nothing, and Jesus is definately not in Jon. Look at the fruits and the corrupted teaching over the last 15 years. You will see all that you need to know.

too old said...

I was told not to bring face coverings (shields or masks) to Church. Now a few said i have no Faith. And I need works to show i have faith. Over Church over rules of a Man

JO MO said...

Jon Brisby has his own Shop check it out

https://www.jonwbrisby.com/shop/

Freely you have received, freely give. Sell it? I think Not.

In their greed, these false teachers will exploit you with tales they have concocted. The longstanding verdict against them remains in force, and their destruction does not sleep . Deliverance from False Pastor

Dr. Martin Rosen, Manchester, UK said...

Great reading on these pages. Deception in That Church CGE Brisby could not deceived me fully.

Anonymous said...

They really don't practice their fundamental #22 do they. They didn't when I was there.

Anonymous said...

Doctor your understanding is developing. Just have an open mind. Simply not possible to deceive the very elect. Jon has been made perfect in Jesus. His just like Jesus perfect simplicity of Christ. Jon Brisby is very elect . I recommend you pray .

Home Office said...

I always Wondered why suddenly the webcam would come on . I have lost trust and confidence and suddenly feel flattened.

Anonymous said...

What are you saying it’s impossible to be deceived? Read your bible.

Anonymous said...

July 23, 2020 at 3:20 AM Is that what the Bible says? That it is not possible to deceive the very elect? I think you may need to go read your Bible again.

Anonymous said...

We are of God. Yes it’s NOT possible for us to get decided.

Anonymous said...

You better go read your Bible. Anyone can be deceived by Satan. Especially those who think they are of God. They are the most vulnerable because of that mindset.

Anonymous said...

The United States is pulling almost 12000 troops from Germany, unleashing wait for it is shall come to pass. The burden which Mr.Herbert W. Armstrong saw concerning Germany is a Sign to the Church Of God Today. Habakkuk The Spirit of Prophecy speaks Today. Acts 13:41
Look, you scoffers, wonder and perish; for I am doing a work in your days that you would never believe, even if someone told you.'" YOU was told over 40 Years ago. German'" Assyrians" Chaldeans those Babylonians will come to power, They fly like an eagle swooping to devour; Habakkuk 1:8. Never seen the German flag with an eagle? Put the trumpet to your lips! An eagle looms over the house of the LORD CHURCH Of GOD. Can you see what looms over You? Sound the alarm! Tell my People! But Israel THE CHURCH OF GOD has rejected what is good; an enemy will pursue him-How long will they be incapable of innocence?… Shall He not Understand? Shall He Not acknowledge divine revelations given under Herbert W. Armstrong ? Jesus is the spirit of prophecy If Jesus Is come we should have true revealed knowledge . Prophecy and doctrine must line up with the Word of God. 1 Test - 2 Prove We are from God. Whoever knows God listens to us; whoever is not from God does not listen to us. By this we know the Spirit of truth and the spirit of error.

Drew said...

Testing.

Anonymous said...

Astonishing" and Definite. I seen those news headlines . Our Pastors character.
For the leaders of my people— the LORD’s watchmen, his shepherds— are blind and ignorant. They are like silent watchdogs that give no warning when danger comes. They love to lie around, sleeping and dreaming. New Living Translation Isaiah 56:10

Anonymous said...

Our Pastor is terrible at announcing the Government of God. Do you all agree?

Anonymous said...

Brisby isn't a preacher. He is an entertainer. It is important to him to be seen and to have his voice heard even if he is preaching garbage. Nothing strokes his ego more than walking to the front of a room and standing behind the lectern and looking down at members. Afterward, he loves to bask in the adoration some pay to him, especially the women. Its all rather sickening!

Anonymous said...

Those naughty Women just need some Attention. But i see he thinks his a lady's Man.

Anonymous said...

Yes I agree. Anyone who knows or has known Brisby, knows that he thinks on a physical level. He may talk as if he believes in spiritual principles, etc..., but at the end of the day, it is all about his authority and rule over the brethren as well as the other ministers. Those he calls his underlings.

Dan said...

What a load of bull! Leave our Pastor alone. Jon is filled with holy righteous truth. God works within his temple of which we are his body on earth. We are the kingdom of Christ on earth. Don’t fear worry have totally peace of mind. This evil page is getting us the attention needed to be manifested . Jesus will instruct our church. But we need deep respect for our leadership. Jon is our servant . Many times I have witnessed Jesus on earth in our little fellowship. Watch the Church this is were Jesus is today and no place else upon earth.

Anonymous said...

What "righteous truth" is Brisby filled with? All I see is a lot of brown stuff coming from him. Jesus is not in Jon and never has been. The creature you call "Jesus" is nothing but a man-made myth. Jesus has never manifested himself in Brsby and is not present in the man. He is a professional liar.

Anonymous said...

You nailed it on the head. He is a professional liar, a clever deceiver. When I started catching him doing this, especially when it was recorded in audio sermons and I could go back and listen to it to prove it, I had to leave that organization.

Anonymous said...

Jesus said it’s impossible for Him to lie. This same Jesus is inside giving inspiration . I don’t expect you to understand or comprehend 10:16 pm August 6 2020 your of the farther Satan The devil. He lies and is the farther of lies. Knowing your worldly I ask you to worship at our feet. All those that reject us will need to worship at our feet with repentance.

cat lady said...

Jon loves his own spin with his secret Formula of Ideas. His purpose is our confusion. A few of us never pay attention to his Formula of "ideas. Jon's Psychological methods and interpretive frameworks will never hold water with God. Raymond made sense i'm sorry Brisby makes no sense since he published his book for sale. The Just What Do You Mean – Faith Once Delivered series has caused us all utter confusion.

Anonymous said...

I don't know why there is so much hate for Mr. Brisby here. He is Christ embodied on earth for us today and has the message from God to deliver to us. His messages are Godly and lead us to prepare to be God in the world tomorrow. He is carrying on the message of Herbert Armstrong and has expounded further on his teachings as God has revealed to him new revelations. We should not be criticizing Mr. Brisby. We will be held accountable for that.

Anonymous said...

Personally I wouldn’t consider it Hateful. People have the right to express their own opinions. It would seem the members are unhappy with adding to the word of God. Many times we have been told to hold fast. Holding fast doesn’t allow for expounding. To say or suggest that Brisby has Jesus embodied inside of him is very Dangerous. The man of Sin will be saying similar . Those Ministers are held accountable for adding or subtracting to God’s Word. I think the truth hurts and cuts deep.

summary said...

Raymond would say Get Out . Mr. Cole would say about abiding in Christ, and not in a physical organization if they go astray. The physical dimension of the church, has always gone astray. Brisby has gone astray! Keep this in your minds - Do not abandon the ship. The ship is truth. The ship is not a man or an organization. It never has been, and never will be!
Now you should understand why Jon thinks he is THE MANIFESTATION OF CHRIST. He Need's your complete agreement that he is the only authorized representative on the earth. It's crazy and nothing more than power grab politics.

Anonymous said...

God's Kingdom through His manifest presence in Jon is the only way to salvation. Our Little family is blessed to witness God's Kingdom glory in our Church. I'm new to the group and have Joy in the Kingdom of God now upon the earth. Jesus rules over us and is IN Jon.

Anonymous said...

Confucius say, Man who stands on toilet is high on devil spirits and don't count your Chickens before they are hatched, well maybe Confucius said one of those things. And if it is justice you are looking for, you are in for a long walk...

Anonymous said...

COVID-19 in Oregon; 227 new cases reported stay home . No Church assemblies too unsafe. Why are we not allowed face masks? Romans 13:1-2 says: "Obey the government, for God is the One who has put it there. Whoever resists the authorities resists what God . Jon should follow the bible So, yes, Christians are expected to obey the laws of the land and thereby honor God. However, when the laws of the land contradict the laws of God, Christians can disobey earthly rulers. Keep the Sabbath at home. STAY HOME!

Anonymous said...


Duitsland spreekt zijn 'ongenoegen' uit over de Amerikaanse dreiging over de Russische pijpleiding . Duitsland lijkt in opkomst

Anonymous said...

Church is boring. Only reason why I enjoy church (foodstuff) plus the ladies are hotties.

Anonymous said...

I agree with the food, but I do not know what hotties you are talking about. I know them all both in Oregon and Tennessee. Bitter best describes those that are eligible, and that's like 3 tops.

Anonymous said...

LOL Kim's cooking !!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Dirty Boy's . Think upon the Lord . Lust kills your mind. Our meals and pot luck are certainly blessed by God!

Anonymous said...

How to Preserve the Union
Jon W. Brisby; Eugene, OR., 8-8-2020

What's going on over there in CGE?

Anonymous said...

Not sure 🤔

Anonymous said...

I listened to the How to Preserve the Union sermon by Jon. He says over and over again that there are no problems currently in his church, but I could tell that he is angry at someone, and his angry tone really comes through later in the sermon. So, obviously there are problems he is denying but trying to address. The whole sermon is basically about how the congregation should avoid members who are not supportive of everything he teaches.

Anonymous said...

"How to Preserve the Union", is one of many messages Jon Brisby has done over the years that serves as a way for him to talk about the trouble that is brewing in the church in a veiled manner. This is done by making the main body of the message about something similar, and then over the course of the message transferring it over to what he really intends to talk about. This is usually the point in the message where you see him get angrier. He will make statements like "we are experiencing incredible peace and harmony at this time", or "this is not a sermon to head off some problem on the horizon", but the mere fact that he is making these statements, is a glaring admission that some trouble does exist, otherwise there is no reason at all to even utter the statements, let alone give the message. His hope is that he will somehow rally the members against this unseen trouble that he is not really talking about but is.

I know secondly (from personal experience) as an adjunct to this first step in his process to head off trouble, he will do what he likes to accuse others of doing, lead a "secret campaign". I have witnessed him playing politics in sermons, one especially that was given in the latter part of 2009. This message was given with the intent, and in fact labeled on the CD itself, that it was only for specific congregations within his organization, but not for the other congregations. Correct me if I'm wrong, but is God's Church not all supposed to be one and not divided? He did this because he knew that the individual he had stirred up trouble with, had closer friendship ties to these congregations than he did to the others. He did this in hopes of putting out the bigger fire he had started in those congregations.

There is much more to be said, but for now, just understand that any trouble that is brewing, has most likely been caused by Mr. Brisby himself and he is now once again hearing the roar of his own mistakes. I.E. publishing a book that he should have never written and attempting to re-interpret what is a part of the "faith once delivered", and what is not. These are just two monumental mistakes of many that have been made over the years, and now they are simply coming home to roost.



Litz said...

Jon really need's to be Honest with the People of God. He has been cunning over many years. The division to which he has caused is not the fault of the brothers collectively, Jon's lack of respect for Herbert W. Armstrong is His fault. Mr.Cole refused to write a tell all book. He claims to follow Raymond. The only Solution is to repent and get back to the ORIGINAL TEACHINGS. Witness to the falling away have a perception of the situation. I am searching and waiting for God to Raise up another Work. Just a matter of time before we are fully Restored.

out south said...

I am not a yes fellow! I follow a man only as He follows Christ! Jon want's us all to obey him. I will not if his wrong on doctrine or prophecy. Look to Christ and his word not the man.

UK Church member said...

A letter from July 1975 written by Raymond Cole addresses: What is the Church?, Truth is revealed only through chosen servants, Servants are not free to change the message, and Departure is from the truth, not an organization. ( DON"T EVER ALLOW ANY PASTOR LOCK YOU TO An Orgaization . JON BRISBY tells us How to Preserve the Union or His Church. This sermon has been twisted to hold you in His Organizing. Please Study and Pray asking God to Guide you in this time of Need. Copy and paste below.

https://12cdad74-e367-9bde-7655-9d2ccb0b760e.filesusr.com/ugd/ef0284_d5d0c029ebf041d58552c26359f51e13.pdf

Members who feel they are a part of something, who feel they are “in it together” or part of the family develop a greater connection to the brand and therefore greater loyalty to Jon. This is very dangerous because we end up rejecting God's Word over a Man's Word. Mr Cole Was right! Never become hopelessly devoted to a Man. Be devoted to the Word of God that Never Changes.

Anonymous said...

Warning - 2020 Unto The Church

Our Church Today Romans 16:17

Now I urge you, brethren, keep your eye on those who cause dissensions and hindrances contrary to the teaching which you learned, and turn away from them.

Since Jon Has published his Book and some Doctrinal add on this is a clear Departure. Our Church cannot stand on Changed Foundation. Jon did kindled the factions with many doctrine changes, and wrong administrative Decisions. As a result Our Church was rebranded.

I have many things to write but Jon receive us not. Neither he (Jon) himself receive some brethren. Some Have no choice but to separate. Never should we refuse to welcome the brothers . I wrote a letter to the congregations. But Jon, who loves to be in charge, won't accept us . He exalts folly.

Anonymous said...

Administrative Decisions are None Of My Business or yours. Mr. Brisby sole authority because Christ Rules in his Body. The Word was made Flesh and His flesh is Jesus. I do have confidence as Jesus upon this earth works inside his earthy spokesperson. God is wholly involved with us as human beings! When the inner voice of God speaks clearly, obedience may be counted as madness in the eyes of the world. But if you are willing to be God's fool, then you will see His power. Thy kingdom come on earth. Jesus is on earth today. We all must acknowledge the existence of Christ in the Church of God. It’s inspiring, and humbling. Don’t be afraid to believe it, either. SO IT IS, IT IS SO.

David fox said...

Those over there are buying into errors. Jesus is not Jon!

Anonymous said...

I support Mr Brisby 100%. He is filled with love and really is like my brother.

Sound the Alarm said...

News for Brisby : Israeli fighter pilots carry out first joint exercises in Germany.
Luftwaffe chief Ingo Gerhartz in a statement called the joint exercise "a sign of our friendship today".
Why Church of God, The Eternal Is Blind to Germany's Identity

It is Satan himself who has blinded the world to the identity of the Assyrians. If it were known that the language of ancient Assyria was indeed Indo-Germanic — and that the fabled Empire of Hatti was actually the western part of the Assyrian Empire — and that the Germans are actually the descendants of the Assyrians, then Satan could no longer hide the prophecies of the Bible from the people!
Germany's identity in Bible prophecy stands revealed. Now see what prophecy says.

Anonymous said...

Rubbish we don’t accept the identities of nation’s. All that nonsense will never happen. Germany is dead in eu. Why worry about negativity. Our church is reforming to encourage love and personal overcoming. Focus on your own life. I hope you can break free of those old dead teachings from HWA. We simply don’t know or understand the migration of nations. Brisby said those old teachings are added by other Ministers not HWA. So you should reject them as speculative.

Anonymous said...

The blind folks follow the blind. Uk is out of the European Union. Our beloved United States has become a homeless dump. This nation Of ours has become trash broken humiliated laughing stock of the World. Those brothers were blessed but now cursed. Germany is the beast enemy and laying low. Watch her Rise in Europe. Mother land Germany will ride once again. Marching to a new song onwards to victory.

Old school said...

Your just a new member and don’t know much about church history. You only know what Jon has preached. Go and listen to the early broadcasts of radio church. Revelation isn’t speculative but a Given Gift. Treasure the old and reject the new. Seek the old path . May your eyes be opened that u may see.

Anonymous said...

Joe Biden will be dangerous. His catholic faith will shape and mould United States . The Pope will automatically have our people trapped. Will he support the pope and Germany? Keep watch something big is going to take place.

Anonymous said...

Beware of criticizing Mr. Brisby! To do so is to criticize Christ himself!

Anonymous said...

The Man of Sin. Sitting in a temple proclaiming He has Christ in him . Showing his self to be Jesus saying he has come. Study your bibles. Jesus Christ is with his farther in heaven. No this Christ doesn’t come back every now and then to earth. Anyone that tells you otherwise is a false Teacher. Show me one instance were Mr Armstrong taught this to the Church. The holy spirt is not Christ but a gift. Which is a down payment only. Jesus would criticise those false teachers and confront those who resist Him. Jesus Christ is Not In Jon! His just a man ! Yes he may have the holy spirt but that’s not Christ. We need to abide in Christ not the other way around. Twisted and dangerous changed Doctrine. Let no man decide you. Many will come saying he is Christ. If anyone tells you he is here or there believe it not! August 20. 2020 at 10:31 pm caused if you follow a man and not Christ. Only follow a man if he follows Christ with the correct interpretation and Doctrine.

Anonymous said...

I believe August 20, 2020 @ 10:31 is a troll. This individual has popped up on this post a few times making similar statements. The real intention is to distract from the problems and detract from the legitimate comments made on this post. There is real trouble in CGE, I know this to be fact. So when you see someone posting on here that Jon is Jesus in the flesh, or that the women in CGE are hot for him, just understand the intention behind the post. My guess is that it's someone who is still attending that group posting the nonsense. In the end, it will all come out.

Anonymous said...

The legitimacy of Jon Brisby is appalling .The Jesus is come now in flesh today on earth theory or an argument does not hold water. Mr.Cole was simply wrong and in error.

Anonymous said...

If you don't follow Jon you have Sin! Jesus will lead Jon and out church to place of Protection soon. We suffer Persecution today. Christ truly leads Mr Brisby with Great power Signs and Wonders. I would die for him and protect him from evils.

with love to all

CA


Anonymous said...

Did you hear the News that Jon Brisby may of found The Ark of the Covenant? This is why he might be saying Jesus is with him?

Were did he find it?


Anonymous said...

It’s a secret. Jesus is over here keeping it safe and secure.

Potter said...

Fantastic News . This discovery is testimony to all the hateful people. Jesus has shown the world Jon the only republican on earth. Vote 1

Anonymous said...

Are you trying to make the willy smile in church. Jon expression on face is very funny. embarrassing when he looks at me services. I try and not look him in the eyes. I do start Daydreaming when he talks to us. I'm fascinated on willy. I will ask Kim for a Sneak Peek. Hopefully she's ok with my lusting eyes.

Anonymous said...

I see a big thing in 2007 wow it please me so much.

Anonymous said...

Because Jesus was God and had no need for sex organs there is no way that Mr Brisby is Jesus.

shirly said...

I think our Church has a case of Pedophilia or Pedophile. I have found explicit photos on my kids devices. Please check your kids devices and report cases.

Anonymous said...


mio padre frequentava questi gruppi di chiesa. Alla fine era mentalmente infelice. Questa chiesa ti confonderĂ  la mente. culto, non una chiesa in quanto tale. Ha detto che Jon non era molto sincero sulle dottrine. Ha rifiutato che satana sarĂ  rilasciato nel millennio millenario.
Mi direbbe che satana sarà legato e quel sigillo è una promessa o una garanzia. La Parola di Dio contro la Parola dell'uomo. Ha detto che rifiuta la parola dell'uomo e accetta la Parola di Dio.

Sam said...

A false witness shall not be unpunished, and he that speaketh lies shall not escape.
Proverbs 19:5 KJV

Anonymous said...

Sam: Because seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand. Ezekiel 12:2 "Son of Man, you live in a rebellious house that has eyes to see, but they can't see, and ears to hear, but they can't hear, since they're a rebellious house. O rebellious house, I will speak a message and bring it to pass, declares the Lord GOD.'"And He said, “Go, and tell this people: ‘Keep on hearing, but do not understand; Keep on seeing, but do not perceive.Isaiah 6:9. And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive: …

indeed the Word's Of Christ.

Anonymous said...

I love Church i'm off to see Jesus Today. Blessed sabbath to Our Church . All others are cast out and need to return back. We only have truth. I reject all other them Mr.Brisby. We follow him because he has Christ. Jesus gave us grace under Mr.Cole and knowledge Jon Brisby.
I love to hear new truth. See you all soon.

Anonymous said...

Sam? That is not you right? Your Not manifested in those words. Jon Is that you?
Don't be Foolish please.

Anonymous said...

No Church for me today. I wish to hear COG Broadcast.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-Sg4t_aSYT5gUTfIk0Wqcw/featured

Anonymous said...

Please here the truth on this live link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_G8TEtWOMQ

copy paste above

Anonymous said...

AnonymousAugust 22, 2020 at 8:38 AM Who are you? Tell us show us a sign please

Anonymous said...

Church of God, The Eternal would seem many there are crying out for change . Transformed by Truth Jon embarked upon rejecting British Israelism . Since I found this little group my life has been tremendous. I hope to see more transformation and changes. Herbert Armstrong’s views are now rejected. Today we have more growth under Jon Brisby New Revelation. Let's all be appreciative and Obey your leaders and submit to them. Even if it’s hard to believe we must be “By grace and through faith, Follow Jon because Jesus is with him!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Jesus isn't "with" Jon but is IN Jon. The sooner people realize this then we can do a final amazing work.

Truth cannot be found in Bill Watson and the CGI cult. This group is so far off the deep end that even Satan is shocked!

South Africa Member said...

Jon and his official way told me the 100 Years of Great White Throne Period is unbiblical .
Did he change this doctrine of late? All were taught by WCG under Mr. Armstrong the 100 year Great White Throne Period . Why Change belief of those doctrines. Here in Cape Town South Africa we don't completely agree with Jon Brisby. THE TRUTH was MADE PLAIN but now uncertainty. Solid Foundation no more. Our Church has been Sowing Discord on Key Basic Truths.

Anonymous said...

South Africa Member. He changed it about 2 years ago or so in one of the Holy Day sermons. I cannot remember which one. Probably if I tried hard enough I could relocate it. He warped some booklet that HWA had written to try and prove his point. What I mean by warped, is he omitted some of what he was reading from what was actually written, claiming he was reading the whole thing. He was omitting. He did this in the past with Coles letters. I think he believes no one is going to go back and fact check him and primarily he is correct. Those that think he is Jesus in the flesh will not question his deception.

Ratzmann Jr said...

1946

ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION
OF
RADIO CHURCH OF GOD

KNOW ALL MEN BY THERE PRESENTS: That we, HERBERT W. ARMSTRONG, BASIL WOLVERTON, DAVID T. HENION, JAMES A. GOTT, ESTHER M. OLSON, and LOMA D. ARMSTRONG, have voluntarily associated ourselves together for the purpose of incorporating a hitherto unincorporated voluntary association in Eugene, Lane County, Oregon, known as "Radio Church of God", under Title III, Article I of the General Nonprofit Corporation Law of the State of California,

And we hereby certify :

ARTICLE I
The name of this corporation shall be :

RADIO CHURCH OF GOD

The duration of the corporation shall be perpetual.

ARTICLE II

The purpose, business and pursuit of this corporation shall be :

(a) To proclaim the Gospel of Jesus Christ according to the Word of God to the people of the United States and the British Commonwealth, and in all the world for a witness to all nations, by the spoken word, by radio, by recordings, by printed word and by personal evangelism; to work for the salvation of souls; to raise up and organize local church congregations; to minister to and edify believers; to assemble ourselves together in worship of Almighty God, for mutual edification and Christian fellowship in Christ Jesus; to ordain and grant credentials or license to preach to such as we believe to be called of God and qualified according to Holy Scriptures as evangelists, ministers, elders, or deacons.

(b) To purchase, acquire, lease, sell and dispose of property, both real and personal, and to use, incumber, pledge, mortgage, lease, and otherwise deal in the same at pleasure to the same extent as a natural person can do.

(c) To make and execute deeds, mortgages, releases and instruments of indebtedness, negotiable or non-negotiable, and to enter into and execute contracts of every kind and character with any person, firm, or corporation.

(d) To do each and every thing necessary, suitable, convenient, or proper for the accomplishment of any one of the purposes or the attainment of any one or more of the objectives herein enumerated, or conducive to or expedient for the interest or benefit of the corporation and to contract accordingly; and, in addition, exercise and possess the powers, rights and privileges secondary or incidental to the purposes for which this corporation is organized or to the activities in which it is engaged; and, in addition, any other rights, powers and privileges granted by the laws of the State of California to ordinary corporations, except such as are inconsistent with the express provisions of Title III, Article I, of the General Nonprofit Corporation Law of the State of California.

This corporation is one which does not contemplate pecuniary gain or profit to the members thereof. The source of income is gratuities, legacies, bequests, tithes and offerings from members and the public.

Anonymous said...

Interesting read. No doubt that man had truth. Today the Church pastors failed the purpose proclaim the Gospel . If our Gospel be hidden it’s hidden to those that are perishing. Simply because we don’t love the revelation God had given under Radio Church of God. God never changes why does this church CGE change? Simply because it’s a dead Church.

Claus said...

Today the Church only need's to have faith in Jon Brisby. Jesus is leading his Church with better understanding' Why don't some have appreciation. Our Church is blessed with NEW Truth. Please grasp the works of Jesus. This same Jesus Walks the earth today in a man. I hear Divine inspiration and Jesus would NEVER allow Our Church errors. “holy” Righteous no lie is of the truth. The genuine character of Jesus will only ever be found in Being righteous such as the Brisby family. Let's follow their faith and Jesus. Our Church has Great glory and we portrayed Jesus upon this earth as his Work.
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Anonymous said...

Yes that’s right. Satan has pastors refusing to proclaim the coming world ruling government Of God .

Anonymous said...

off to church to see big willy.

Anonymous said...

I totally don’t understand these Willy comments. Please explain why?

Uk 🇬🇧 Member said...

Many of our dearly loved brethren are in danger of accepting a counterfeit Christ. It’s obviously a form of false Doctrine. Jesus is with his Farther in heaven. Not here presently on earth in any form. The church is the Wife or bride. Brisby needs to address this error espoused by Cole. It’s a massive mistake and is very dangerous to believe. Today many are coming in Jesus Christ name . This is those Ministers of the Original church. If anyone tells you Jesus is over here or there believe it NOT. Brisby doesn’t have Jesus in his flesh. And his nothing like Jesus. Show me the fruits ? A corrupt tree brings forth bad fruits. This is how be are to evaluate every Pastor Minister. Jesus told his Followers he will not drink of the fruit of the wine until he returns in his father's Kingdom. We pray for that time to come . Jesus simply hasn’t returned in any man today on the earth. But he users the holy spirt as an extension and tool to allow us life eternal if we truly accept the correct and legitimacy of Christ.

Anonymous said...

what is big willy?

Samuel said...

And now Brisby is espousing that the book of Revelations is irrelevant to our salvation. Listen to it for yourself in the 29th installment of "Just what is the faith once delivered"? Really Mr. Brisby, irrelevent? Either this man is still a novice after all of these years of preaching, or he is deliberately attempting to take those brethren over there off course. Either way he is dead wrong. The book of Revelations is as relevant as any of the books in the Bible to our salvation. Let me ask this. Without out the book of Revelations, how are we supposed to know about a beast that is going to come on the scene that will cause many to take a mark of that beast. And it says that those that take that number will not be in the kingdom of God? Does that not sound like a big ol piece of info one might need to stay the course? Especially since you don't find that information elsewhere in the Bible? Also Mr. Brisby, I believe Revelations states that if any man adds or REMOVES any words from that book, he will have his part in life taken away. I hope to God that those over there are checking this and not being lemmings. That my friends your salvation does depend on. By these two admissions of Brisbys alone, those brethren over there have the biblical right to walk.

Anonymous said...

We don’t understand the book of revelation. This hasn’t been revealed. Our Pastor will have revelation only as a chosen servant authorised by God. Only he is able to know .

Anonymous said...

Absolutely off course. More than a few have been asking Jon Questions. He seems to be telling us it’s ok to have different opinions and beliefs. Confused totally. Our Church is not on the same page. I see similarities In World Wide Church of God. Hanging in here isn’t easy of late.

Anonymous said...

Witnesses here in Eugene, OR know Jon has a bad side. He can be a totally different animal if you step on his bad side. A Few turned on me like a pit of vipers and snakes of late. This Church is based on ideology, politics, and personal ethics on the assumption of a man. Counterfeit love. Jon has the tendency to claim for itself a divine authority. He demands of us a total commitment, NO DEAL! Counterfeit Church!

Anonymous said...

Let me guess, the pit of vipers that turned on you included some of church office staff.

Anonymous said...

Of course he will tell you it's okay to have different opinions and beliefs. He just wants you to keep them to yourself. Talk with ppl about them and watch him push you right out the door. Ask me how I know.

Anonymous said...

Isaya Owak be careful with your speech on prophecies. Jon will not appreciate your Signs of the Times letter. Mr. Herbert Armstrong had the truth. He could see this ”sword” of WAR coming upon USA/UK. The German-dominated United States of Europe. It's NOT fantasy, and fear. Divine inspiration Peter 1:20–21: “No prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet’s own interpretation of things. For prophecy never had its origin in the human will, God SENT that Man Herbert Armstrong with Power and Authority. I commend you for your efforts Isaya, Never back down and give up your respect and acknowledgement for those past Revealed Prophecy. Armstrong had inspiration, interpretation, Divine Revelation of which Church of God The Eternal has rejected.He came to his own, and his own people did not receive him. Persecuted, but not forsaken; struck down, but not destroyed; The Church of God will NEVER be destroyed.
Psalm 94:14
For the Lord will not forsake his people; he will not abandon his heritage.

Anonymous said...

All I ask of Jon is to Free Willy! I wait and watch every Sabbath.

Anonymous said...

Yes!!!!!!!!!!! Free Willy!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

His big willy is not free willy. Slave willy to the Lord.

Anonymous said...

The day Willy is freed, I will be a happy woman!

Free Willy from the clutches of Satan!

Anonymous said...

A Willy Wonker. Chocolate for my Factory.

Concerned former member said...

Well it's sad to hear about all the trouble going on over there. I hope the brethren can see through the deception and just allow God to guide them to where they need to be.

Anonymous said...

You’re a very bored woman. I don’t understand why your factory isn’t working correctly.

Anonymous said...

How many Free Willy would it take to end the wildfires ?

Anonymous said...

All the Willy and a few more! I love my Willy! Jon’s Willy would be fantastic.

Former member said...

A good website for reference on original COGTE material is located at www.afaithfulservant.com

The website contains writings and audio material by Mr. Raymond Cole on various topics. His successor teaches some different things now than RC did, so its a good website to find that information.

Anonymous said...

I pray that the maker of the above website will establish a new group.

Anonymous said...

This isn’t needed for eternal life. Jon has revelation and I only follow him. We don’t follow Herbert W A. We as a little group follow Jesus in Mr Brisby.

Anonymous said...

I agree 7:06! Christ is in Mr Brisby and is doing a mighty work. Mr Brisby is setting the example of perfection as Christ was perfect. He is leading us into all truth as Christ speaks to us through him.

Anonymous said...

Jesus wouldn’t agree. What work? Are thousands turning from sin hearing the Gospel message? Proclaiming the Original teachings of Herbert Armstrong? I think not. The fruits are nothing. Dry withering tree . Jon’s flesh isn’t fit for Jesus to live in.

Anonymous said...

COGE Jon Bisby: "[my] time is reserved only for those who believe in the teachings of COGE"

I wrote to you last time about two weeks ago. I have received a response from Jon Brisby of "Church Of God, The Eternal." Although I told him I would like to stay in touch every now and then (because I thought he and his family were kind people), he told me that his time is reserved only for those who believe in the teachings of COGE. He said that someday if and only if I return and fully embrace every doctrine and have complete belief in COGE and Herbert Armstrong's teachings, then he would befriend me again but until or unless that happens, then no, absolutely not! This is a tactic of mind control groups. Oh well, it is what it is. I will never go back. --Kandice Cunning (Former member of COGE)

News Watch said...

Turkey holding 50 US nuclear bombs ‘hostage’
A deadly cache of weapons of mass destruction is being “held hostage” by the Turkish President Watch as Turkey get's worse by the hour”.

United States and Great Britain WILL continue to find themselves burdened with increasing problems.
The internal problems of the United States and Great Britain — the drought, famine, mounting disease epidemics; increasing crime, mounting divorce, social and political debauchery — will increase until some of the most calamitous national disasters in our collective histories will occur!
These prophecies are SURE, they WILL come to pass, unless our peoples repent first!
Soon to emerge on the world scene will be a United States of Europe!
Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man" (Luke 21:36).
You need to be watching and praying as never before! May God give you the courage to ACT upon the knowledge you have received.

Anonymous said...

Watch yourself not world events! Overcome your own problems. Christ never watched he preached and so does Mr.Brisby. He certainly is a type of Jesus. Don’t waste your time with world news. Turkey will do nothing. USA is mighty strong and will not allow any other country to bully us or the world. Remember the Iraq war? We went in and wiped the place clean.

Former member said...

I knew Jon personally Kandice and Biblically he is a turncoat. That is a fact. I can go and show direct things he has taught either opposite of the Bible or Mr. Cole. The best thing you can do is avoid men and groups like that. If you find a man at the head of a group like that, chances are many of the brethren follow his character. Read the story of Diotrephese in the Bible. That is Jon to a T.

Anonymous said...

Do you mean the United States or NATO? United States of Europe Is broken. We follow new truth not old fantasy. Jon has always explained the realities to us. You should watch NATO and our great empire.

Anonymous said...

Stop the spread...of misinformation! Jon Brisby is just like Jesus. Jesus has returned to our church already. We must receive him or be rejected by God. Scam news hoaxes are big problems right now, on this blog but your actions can make a difference! Always think about how YOU can verify content sources and always question what you read online .

Anonymous said...

Only Mrs Brisby has his free Willy. Yummy juicy hot dog delicious. If only she knows the truth. I tasted his hot Dog.

Anonymous said...

You’re Willy will catch on fire!

Anonymous said...

Oregon calamity. To what purpose [is] this waste?

Our holy and glorious temple, where our ancestors praised you, has been burned with fire, and all that we treasured lies in ruins.Isaiah 64:11
Isaiah 24:1
Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty, and maketh it waste, and turneth it upside down, and scattereth abroad the inhabitants thereof.

Isaiah 33:8
The highways lie waste, the wayfaring man ceaseth: he hath broken the covenant, he hath despised the cities, he regardeth no man.

Ezekiel 12:20
And the cities that are inhabited shall be laid waste, and the land shall be desolate; and ye shall know that I [am] the LORD.

Anonymous said...

If anyone tries to harm them, fire flashes from their mouths and consumes their enemies-and to strike the earth with every kind of plague as often as they wish. When they complete their testimony?

Anonymous said...

We truly are seeing the fulfilment are you one of the two witnesses? Why don’t you speak unto us good things that are positive?

Anonymous said...

Speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits. Now go, write it before them in a table, and note it in a book

The action or practice of deceiving someone by concealing or misrepresenting the truth

The new breed of Christians in Church of God The Eternal today have an insatiable desire for that which is not according to God’s word. Smooth things” will pave the way for the antichrist one world religion in the last days. Paul warned us that the antichrist would be he “whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders.”

(2 Thessalonians 2:9).
Isaiah 30:9-13
King James Version
9 That this is a rebellious people, lying children, children that will not hear the law of the Lord:

10 Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits:

11 Get you out of the way, turn aside out of the path, cause the Holy One of Israel to cease from before us.

12 Wherefore thus saith the Holy One of Israel, Because ye despise this word, and trust in oppression and perverseness, and stay thereon:

13 Therefore this iniquity shall be to you as a breach ready to fall, swelling out in a high wall, whose breaking cometh suddenly at an instant.

Two types of prophesy , Which will you hear ?

The United States of Europe Germany OR United States of America ?

Herbert W. Armstrong on United States of Europe
https://vimeo.com/293626651


Anonymous said...

Absolutely trash. Jon doesn’t subscribe to those false assumptions. We all know the fulfilment never happened with Germany. The World fears Americans not any other nations. Jon has interpreted the Beast System and we are apart of the new world Order. I think Jon speaks truth and your views are from British Israel. New truth will set us free from fear and we grow closer to Christ.

Anonymous said...

8:18 You are nuttier than hell. Brisby certainly does agree with the things you claim he does not. He also is the embodiment of Christ here today warning the world of the troubles to come and to lead us into glory.

Anonymous said...

Your confused? Please explain in simple terms not fine print.

Elder said...

8:38 pm And your a Nuttiness member. Professor in the embodiment of a false Christ. Warning the World ? Please demonstrate how that’s being accomplished. I will judge by the fruits.

Anonymous said...

Those people in this church are crack pots.

Anonymous said...

Willy looks great. Jesus must look Hot

Anonymous said...

United States of America is a beast system ! We are Part of the Beast! We don't follow United States of Europe it's a Lie!

Anonymous said...

In the 1930s Herbert W. Armstrong peered into the pages of his Bible and discovered a shocking prophecy. A political and military power, made up of a confederation of European nations, would one day arise to dominate the world prior to the return of Jesus Christ.

No one else believes what Mr. Armstrong originally taught about Truth—that it comes only by revelation to a chosen servant, and even that servant has no authority to change what Christ gave! Read it for yourself: From The Plain Truth, July 1965.

Mr. Armstrong prophesied what would happen Repent !

Anonymous said...

We are not in 1930s! We followCole Not HWA. Mr Brisby has new truth ! We follow our own Pastor.

Anonymous said...

Leave them; they are blind guides. If the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a "Disregard them! Thus says the Lord: “Cursed is the man who trusts in man and makes flesh his strength, whose heart turns away from the Lord. Jeremiah 17:5

While evil people and impostors will go on from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived. But as for you, continue in what you have learned and have firmly believed, knowing from whom you learned it
2 Timothy 3:13-17

Whoever trusts in his own mind is a fool!

Anonymous said...

Pastors should call out Sin about the gays and lesbians . We should Voice the real Jesus !

Anonymous said...

If there were any real men that are pastors and actually had a set of balls then they would call out the blatant corruption and immorality in COGEternal. Clean your own filthy house before you condemn those in the world. COG members are such hypocrites.

Anonymous said...

September 18, 2020 at 6:26 AM

That is why Jon removed the Rainbow? The rainbow became the symbol of gay pride. Seriously we gave up God's Sign because of those Sick Homosexals. True religion should shine our light bright

Anonymous said...

“I agree” is correct. Sin won over the Trumpet .

Anonymous said...

The devil has Jon by his balls. His smile in service is funny he certainly reads this blog.

Anonymous said...

I did notice he grinned at times. He would be thinking Willy blogs.

Anonymous said...

I don’t understand all Willy comments. Has he been flashing his Willy ? That’s terrible.

Anonymous said...

tell me the size of his willy ?

Anonymous said...

Jon has went apostate. His distortion of the Faith Once Delivered is clear evidence of that.

Anonymous said...

He definitely has become apostate. He has caused more than a few to get out. Here in Philippines we don’t believe he follows Cole. Some differences in beliefs and teachings. Many here in our congregation refused to accept changes.

Anonymous said...

I bet that is hard for Mr. Roque and Mr. Canta to have to deal with. If people have their ears open, they can hear the error. I was surprised Jon discounted the book of Revelation as necessary to salvation in #29 of just what is the faith once delivered.

He literally said we did not need it. The 1st thing that came into my mind was how was I going to know that I shouldn't take a mark of a man/beast or I lose my Salvation. I dont know of anywhere else I can find that information in all of my Bible. Seems evident to me also since we are not to add or remove one word from the Bible. That's salvational in and of itself. Ears people, listen.

Don't let his fear tactics overwhelm you. He may believe all of his points of his truth formula, but there not Biblical. Judge things based on the word of God and you will be fine.

Anonymous said...

People please know the willy comments are nothing more than a distraction) The Real issues are false teachings. Doctrinal changes and refinements by Pastors are NOT allowed. Theory's are from his own mind and not the mind of Christ.

Anonymous said...

John is instructed to measure the temple of God, the altar, and those who worship there. My bible said nothing about the willy . SO stop your willy wash.

Former member said...

Brisby was ordained by Raymond Cole to instruct those brethren in truth after his passing. Brisby has failed to do this thus far and will be held accountable by God for leading them into error.

Anonymous said...

We will have a Willy of Feast. He Smiles lots it's very funny.

Anonymous said...

Just keep your ears open for the deception he introduces during his sermons. FOT 2014 stuck out like a sore thumb, among other Feasts.

Anonymous said...

God hasn’t blessed this year’s feast. Too many are not assembled as in past years. Many have left and gone over to Bethel Church of God.

Anonymous said...

Weak or diseased trees produce little or no fruit or fruit of poor quality. You can identify them by their fruit, You can identify them by their fruit, that is, by the way they act. Can you pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? will not smell in your solemn assemblies. Take thou away from me the noise of thy songs; for I will not hear the melody. Lamentations 1:4

The roads of Zion are in mourning
Because no one comes to the appointed feasts.
All her gates are desolate;
Her priests are groaning,
Her virgins are afflicted,
And she herself is bitter.

Anonymous said...

I really seen Jesus Incarnation in Jon. This years festival we can really see Jesus marvel and admiration. Many of us can feel the experience of Joy.

Member said...

I'm blessed because we don't need to study the book of Revelation. This book was a mystery to me for many years. Jon Brisby said we don't need this last book of the bible. I certainly agree. Reformed Church is proof of God and his Work.

Anonymous said...

idiotic Group. Blow the Dust off your Bible . Study The Book of Revelation. Jon hates the book of Revelation. Why you may ask? Because Revelation 1:1 begins with these words: “The revelation of Jesus Christ.” Revelation is first and foremost a book from Jesus about Jesus.
Revelation also paints a realistic picture of the church.
Real Suffering
Jesus never promised that following Him would be easy.
Deception.

Jesus in general gives the churches commendations, criticisms, instructions, warnings and promises. It is the revelation of the future return and rule of Jesus Christ upon the earth and includes the events which precipitate his return. It is given to John while he is in prison on the Island of Patmos, through an angel sent by Jesus. John is told to write the revelation on a scroll and give it to the seven churches. John is told to write down the following, what he had seen in the past (chapter 1), what was taking place at that time (chapters 2 and 3) and what would take place in the end times (chapters 4 to 22).

NOTE: A blessing is promised to those who seriously study the book. Jon Brisby will have No Blessing Promised because he has rejected Christ.

I demand freedom of Willy! said...

If Jon would just free Willy then the work could spew forth into the world with power and help usher in the Kingdom of God!

Anonymous said...

Jon and his willy are Preservative free. His willy is Free.

Anonymous said...

This is a dead church. They do not preach the gospel to the world, they teach a doctrine that has very little to do with the Bible and more designed to control the small number of people willing to hang around. They have been taught to follow a man rather than Jesus. They have been taught to disregard scripture and listen soley to the words of a man.

Anonymous said...

So True. God will stop them from feeding themselves. Jon seeks His own interests, not those of Jesus Christ.

Anonymous said...

Jon is an entertainer. He missed his calling by not becoming a Rock Star.

Mindanao said...

Mr Brisby has throw the baby out with the bathwater" He has rejected parts of the Bible. Faith which was once delivered via Herbert W. Armstrong is rejected Today.

Anonymous said...

Our Church is Now a doctrinal mess and then he attempt to sketch out a better path.

sing new song said...

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New Song

Anonymous said...

This is a dead church. They do not preach the gospel to the world, they teach a doctrine that has very little to do with the Bible and more designed to control the small number of people willing to hang around. They have been taught to follow a man rather than Jesus. They have been taught to disregard scripture and listen soley to the words of a man.

Anonymous said...

Jesus isn’t dead. He is living active and working in our pastors flesh. Please don’t underestimated how Jesus works today on earth. Our church is carrying the Good news to the earth in power and great glory.

Anonymous said...

Yes!

People do not understand that Jesus Christ is actively present in Mr. Brisby.

The work of God is going forth with power now in order to help usher in the World Tomorrow!

Never has the church seen a man leading it as great as Mr. Brisby with Jesus Christ dwelling in him.

I am so glad to be apart of this church.

Anonymous said...

Since Jesus is with Jon Brisby right now on this earth we must already be in the Kingdom of God. It's not a spiritual realm but Now on earth.

Anonymous said...

Please explain to me how Christ is working in Mr. Brisby.

Anonymous said...

False Christ’s say he is here already. Believe it Not. Those teaching Jon has Christ are not following Herbert Armstrong. He taught Jesus is with his farther and not present in flesh on earth. He taught Christ is within an individual only spiritually. Not here fleshy. This church is teaching false teachings not part of the Original church that God .

Anonymous said...

RE: October 6, 2020 at 3:20 AM affirmative your right.

The church becomes scattered when the foundations—the doctrines of our faith—are altered. Ephesians 4:14- by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness. By good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.
First, believers can be deceived by "human cunning." This is the power of human persuasion; a smooth talker can wield influence over others. Second, a person can be deceived by "craftiness in deceitful schemes." These are evil plans that may appear good but actually promote something false. In Ephesians 6:11 Paul will add that believers can "Put on the whole armor of God, that [they] may be able to stand against the schemes of the devil."

Anonymous said...

The Debate about Jesus is here already on the earth must be addressed. It’s false . Now claimed it’s new true give by Cole. Are we that simple and stupid.

Anonymous said...

Festival 2020 was amazing. I scored a hottie. I miss her soo much.

Anonymous said...

Apparently you are because you’re still there listening to đź’©

Anonymous said...

Willy Wash. I love clean Willys. Soap it up boys. See you next festival 2021. Don’t forget to serve your ladies like Queens. Love y’all

Anonymous said...

I love our Church. Don't Attack us. When you do it's Jesus and his body. We the church are Jesus .

Anonymous said...

I love the Lord Jesus

Anonymous said...

This is a dead church. They do not preach the gospel to the world, they teach a doctrine that has very little to do with the Bible and more designed to control the small number of people willing to hang around. They have been taught to follow a man rather than Jesus. They have been taught to disregard scripture and listen soley to the words of a man.

Anonymous said...

Our church isn’t dead. We have Jesus. Also we are holy people. We don’t fellowship in darkness. The message is powerful enough. We declare that gospel of Jesus daily in Christian living. We abide in Jesus and he absolutely is here living in Mr Brisby. His an extension of Jesus Christ and that’s why the world hates us.

Thessalonians 2:3-8 said...

Jesus is nothing like Jon. How do you all make comparisons? Paul indicates that the “lawless one,” “sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God. So the Scriptures have been fulfilled.

Jim said...

Church of God, The Eternal is a remnant of the Worldwide Church of God Now not teaching the original doctrines first proclaimed by Mr. Herbert W. Armstrong. Jesus isn't Jon and Jon is Not Jesus. Those messiah claimants saying Jesus is come presently are not in the Original Doctrine. This makes Jon's remnant group truly Not different from the 300+ splinter groups.

P. Van Allen said...

No one else believes what Mr. Armstrong originally taught about Truth. Even that servant Jon Brisby has no authority to ADD Or change what Christ gave under Herbert W. Armstrong. I would not support change to those specified God given teachings. God is not an author Confusion.

Sam said...

Jon Brisby Is The Lord's servant he will bring forth justice for the nations. He has given us the holy people on earth REVELATION REVEALED His Formula is the only way to Salvation. You all must know without Jon there would be no servant, whom he has chosen to lead our Church. Jesus invokes us Jon is a shadow of Christ on this earth doing a work. The incarnation of Christ on Earth in our Church must be declared. Don't be antichrists. “Jon is the chosen one, We all must love him for the work. You Must Highly Esteem your Minister.

Grace Communion said...

I think this group is trying re-introduce the concept of Christ is come. Dangerous those Pastors are thirsty creatures, Indeed. Grace Communion International condemns the Cole doctrine as heresy.

Anonymous said...

Brisby said to me recently (we are NOT subject to time and chance) has he changed this Teaching too?

For time and chance happen to all .
Ecclesiastes 9:11.

The Messed Up Church

Anonymous said...

All is predestined before your Born. Time and chance is not for our Church. The bible is clear on the subject. Time and chance was added by other Men.

Anonymous said...

Actually a sad and disturbing situation in CGE

Sam said...

Then your saying that the verse called into question in the book of Ecclessiastes is not inspired? If so, provide evidence please.

Sam said...

As long as thread is on this post, and as many teachings that have been called into question by the current pastor, this church clearly has a spirit of confusion.

Anonymous said...

my Bags are packed - off to Bethel Church of God.

Anonymous said...

The clear evidence Sam is Faith. When we hear Jon it's Jesus and his Voice we must follow. Sow walking in faith and by faith we know Jesus Speaks to Us Today.

Antono said...

We love you Sam please come back to Church. We care for you very much. There is NO confusion in our Church. Are you the Prodigal Son of Jon?

Anonymous said...

Your funny Antono. But really, get as far away from this group as possible. Spiritually it will demoralize you.

Anonymous said...

All of you who mock God's servant will regret this in the day of judgment. You mock Christ himself when you do so. Christ is physically present in Mr. Brisby and directs the words from his mouth. You would all do well to heed them! Your salvation depends upon it.

Brother & Sisters said...

Your salvation will Never depend on any Man!

Don't Ever get twisted by the ministry in order to corral the brethren into not leaving CGE!

study with your own eyes. This will shock you! This article has been withdrawn in CGE
literature.

Administrative reasons can never take away God's Truth.

COPY PASTE BELOW

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travail said...

9:21pm Bittersweet" trust Not In a Man. Don't make Flesh your Arm. You lack the True Knowledge.

For the Word of God is living and powerful and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

Psalm 146:3 - Do not trust in princes,In mortal man, in whom there is no salvation.

God only can give us Salvation NOT JON or His Church.

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