Dave and his superstitious myths are exposed by yet another person.
Dave Pack is the gift that just keeps on giving.
by Paulogia: a former Christian takes a look at the claims of Christians
The one thing that Paulogia misses is that Dave is NOT a Christian nor is his cult Christian.
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Ha yes,the God does or does not exist question.
What people believe prevails over the truth- Socrates.
The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge- Daniel Boorstein.
So true. On the other side of the equation is......
The problem with evolution is that it requires miracles without a miracle maker- Guy Pierce.
The greatest enemy of evolution is "time and decay".
Time is the enemy of competing pre biotic processes.
Time is an observer,not an ingredient.
The origin of life has not been explained - Jame Tour. However you view this question the scholarship of the COG,s is woefully inadequate and intellectually wanting.
I found the non-stop interjections of Dave's presentation obnoxious. Let the presenter state his own case, and be done with it. And no, the fossil record is the big rebuke in evolution rather than it's confirmation. There's way too few so called transitions.
10:12 "Let the presenter state his own case, and be done with it. And no, the fossil record is the big rebuke in evolution rather than it's confirmation. There's way too few so called transitions."
Thank you Wendy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XrOscFu1y8
The same type of "irrefutable" arguments Dave presents to his congregation to prove his Apostleship and prophecies -- only his board doesn't dare refute him.
The better question is DOES DAVE PACK EXIST??! ... or is he simply a figment of his own imagination!
DOES DAVE PACK EXIST??!
"I scam therefore I am".
Dave wants to prove God, as do many, with science while mocking and discounting the parts that contradict what he wants. What about "He that comes to God, MUST believe that he is!" That's not proving anything. That's being commanded to just believe that God is or one will never ever get close to Him/Her/It. Having faith is the mechanism for religious beliefs. Having facts and proof for the scientific mind.
Remember, "Faith is the substance of things hoped for . The evidence of things of unseen." I have said it before. This simply means "Faith is what we hope is true, based on absolutely no real evidence that it is true."
Aron Ra took Dave to the Outhouse several years ago for this same series. This was the kinder gentler version. Dave is poorly trained and simply repeating Creationist talking points that have long ago been discounted. The idea that he studied two whole years , 50 years ago is ludicrous. I took the same classes and came to the opposite conclusions. The material he claims convinced him, I also had to study and was not convinced. Today that material is laughable as is Dave's presentations on topics he actually knows nothing up to date about.
What Dave means by studying evolution is reading "The Genesis Flood" by Whitcomb and Morris and outlining it. NO ONE EVER TAUGHT A CLASS ON IT. It was a reading assignment. The rest he got from WCG booklets such as A Theory for the Birds and A Whale of a tale. He even uses the exact bad examples from those booklets in his presentation.
I promise you Dave has NEVER read an up to date book on Evolution such as Don Prothero's "What the Fossils Tell Us And Why it Matters". He is faith restricted in just how much information he can let in without hurting his faith. It's a common problem for those who claim they just want to know the truth. They really don't. The want to hear their truth coming back to them out of the mouths of others in agreement with their weak faith restricted views. Amen
It appears that those who studied physics and chemistry have a natural advantage over those who haven't. The difficulty of science makes it obvious that a super intelligence has to be behind all the life on this planet. But those who have never strained doing maths or similar, like Dennis, find it easy to intellectualize away what a honest science student cannot.
It's people like Dennis who fall for the learn to play the piano in ten easy lessons adds or fall prey to Nigeria type financial scams.
The WSJ article that DCP quotes is correct: life is almost impossible - with all its parallel & convergent evolution in our case - even given our vast observable universe. But what if there are ~infinite other dimensions/universes (Hawking et al) and the one we perceive is very lucky? This would explain apparent godlessness/failure of 'second-advent', plus absence of 'first-advent' (Christ-myth-theory)
Even if god exists and he made the earth and everything on it, I’m pretty sure it is a different god than Pack pictures him.
Someone (god that is) who can make something that grandiose can never be narrow minded, cold hearted or wanting everyone’s money.
Do you think Dave knows that?
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Parallel and convergent evolution.
Such reasoning would lead you to conclude that the current culture is the only possible outcome because of a grand design.
But what IF your grandmother had indeed married her real first love instead of the guy at the carnival that got her pregnant, your uncle had walked away with his parents on german orders instead of going with the nurse who took him to a shelter, your great grand father wasn't found by that black family in the woods who cared for his bullet wound after he had run away from the field the battle of gettysburg, you had broken your neck when your 3 year old sister pushed you from the stairs.
Ok, you can make a case it was all intervention by the olympic gods playing games, but to me it sounds that your very existence right now is a miracle of random chance.
Fasten your seatbelts and wear a mask. Happy holidays.
Nck
Dennis points to "Don Prothero's "What the Fossils Tell Us And Why it Matters"
But a leading evolutionist says, "The extreme rarity of transitional forms in the fossil record persist as the trade secret of paleontology. The evolutionary trees that adorn our textbooks have data only at the tips and nodes of their branches; the rest is inference, however reasonable, not the evidence of fossils ….We fancy ourselves as the only true students of life's history, yet to preserve our favored account of evolution by natural selection we view our data as so bad that we never see the very process we profess to study." - Stephen J. Gould - "Evolution's Erratic Pace," Natural History, vol. 86 (May 1987), p. 14.
Its take a lot more faith to believe "life" spontaneously came from non-life which ignores a fundamental law of biology, Bio-genius. All proteins are manufactured by a complex process involving hundreds of specially designed proteins and enzymes.
A lot of production effort went into this RCG telecast, and all for nothing, very little impact, not even on television anymore AFAIK. Why does DCP work so hard at his age? Because he's bonkers, that's why: thinking he's the sole end-time messenger is a big burden/delusion to carry! He should be taking it easy at that age, relaxing, enjoying life, acknowledging he doesn't have all the answers, that agnosticism is okay...
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