Monday, August 29, 2022

Dave Pack is floating through the prophetic cosmos untethered


Lost in Space (Part 1)

 

We are watching the deterioration of David C. Pack.

 

He is floating through the prophetic cosmos untethered and unable to change his trajectory.

 

The current trend is fascinating. The epileptic fits of prophecy date-setting since April of this year, his “secretive” silence for 12 days, the “I’m sorry I got caught” apology that feels like there was some internal pressure by either the “ministers” or his wife or all of the above,  and now the content of this message that needs to be broken into parts.

 

All things are leading me to believe that David C. Pack is cracking. The fractures are getting bigger and easier to spot. How long until it all crumbles is the big question.

 

The members of The Restored Church of God must be spending their Sunday in deep contemplation about whether to continue attending after hearing “The Greatest Unending Story! (Part 390)” which ruined another Sabbath on August 27, 2022.

 

His superior reading comprehension deficit was hammered pretty hard in the last article, but there is another angle to the phenomenon.

 

Not only can he not understand what he reads, but he also cannot understand what he hears from others. Processing spoken words are an insurmountable task. It is no wonder his classmates despised playing The Telephone Game with him in elementary school.

 

 

Personal Story: 2019 RCG Summer Picnic

 

An afternoon thunderstorm rolled through causing many to huddle in the Pavilion on the Campus. I happened to be at the Media Center after just putting away the MPS camera gear. Being Ohio, most of the sky was black and thick with rain, but there was also bright sunlight coming through. It was raining, but it was also sunny.

 

I looked over to the lake next to the Media Center and saw a rainbow. For anyone who understands how rainbows are created, you have to be at a certain angle in relation to the sun to see the prism effect in the water vapor.

 

I returned to the Pavilion where there was some stirring. Six rainbows were spotted around the Campus and some of the photographers were able to capture the moment. Dave was making a big deal of rainbows at the time. Folks remember when eagles, almond trees, and storks were in the spotlight, so I did not give it much credence.

 

I went to him and said, “Mr. Pack, I was at the Media Center and saw a rainbow over the lake.” His eyes widened. He immediately shouted to get everyone’s attention as I stood next to him.

 

“Everyone! Marc Cebrian says he just saw a rainbow stretch from the lake all the way to the Media Center. That makes seven which is God’s number of completion. The Father just visited the Campus.”

 

In that surreal moment, I thought, “That is so not what I just said.” I had to correct those who came up to me afterward and explain that I saw it at the lake from the Media Center, not stretching to the Media Center.

 

While standing next to Dave with everyone looking at us, I realized, “He interprets what he hears to mean what he wants it to.” It was a learning moment that crystallized a way to perceive how Dave taught the Bible.

 

Once I saw what he was doing with the Scriptures, I could not un-see it. You will not be able to un-see it, either.

 

And here we are three years later.

 

 

Dave revisited Luke 1 to keep reminding people of how perceptive he is.

 

@ 00:40 …and it confirms that life begins in the womb. In a most-powerful way. Maybe the most powerful way you could possibly think of.

 

I wonder if the sheer excitement of sharing such an end-time revelation kept Dave up all night. Those in the front row were so grateful they got out of bed this morning. Life begins at conception. We get it.

 

Dave read Luke 1:15 again, completely fixed on the conception and birth of John the Baptist.

 

@ 1:15 Ready? “And he shall be filled with the Holy Spirit even from his mother’s womb.” Have you ever noticed that?

 

What is going on with him? Dr. Ranney needs to do another wellness check.

 

There are children in the audience who knew that. That was not some cryptic scripture God kept oblique to hide His purpose. If this is how he “wows” the audience as his opener, it is not a good sign for the rest of the message.

 

I am no Bible scholar, but even I remembered this:

 

Samson was a Nazarite from the womb - Judges 13:5

Jeremiah was ordained a prophet in the womb - Jeremiah 1:3

 

Is he pulling our leg? How do the enablers keep a straight face through all of this?

 

@ 3:55 Now, I wanna make a little correction. I conflated two things. Mr. Tkach…died exactly 40 weeks to the day after he gave a sermon on the Sabbath. And died, therefore, 40 weeks later on a Sabbath.

@ 4:18 Two days before Trumpets. He died on Elul 28.

 

If you are interested in hearing Dave strain at accepting that he got his facts wrong regarding Joseph W. Tkach while doing a sleight of hand with the church, take a listen.



Part 390 – Tkach Clarification

@ 4:26 But I wanted just to correct it. I got that confused with Mr. Armstrong’s final sermon. So, I was absolutely right, it was exactly 40 weeks to the day from when he threw out the law, Sabbath, tithing, unclean meat was okay, and the Holy Days. He did die 40 weeks to the day but he died on the Sabbath and Trumpets was Monday, two days later. So a small clarification.


That correction was not little. That correction was not small. It changed everything about the story. But this is how a calculated David C. Pack wanted to present it.

 

He was hoping that everyone forgot that his entire point from Part 388 was factually inaccurate. Joseph W. Tkach did not die on Trumpets in 1995 as Dave needed him to.

 

He cannot help but show how he was right about something he was wrong. That is another pillar of understanding that drives him.

 

Moving the story even one day still makes it false. He had to move it two. The way he tries to keep his point valid is remarkable. The story was fraudulent, but in his mind, he was "absolutely right" about something.

 

Surely that humble admission to the members of RCG is of great comfort to the Tkach family.

 

This point of “clarification” comes via Joseph Tkach, Jr. regarding David C. Pack’s Part 388 comments.

 

Your recent posts point out David Pack’s contradictions. It seems that he makes things up as he goes along and cannot keep track of his own schema. I listened to the audio clip of his ridiculous comments about my dad’s death. The only fact he correctly stated was that my dad died.

 

My dad did not die screaming in pain holding onto an Orthodox crucifix. Our entire extended family was gathered around him in the hospital and he died quite peacefully. None of my family or my dad's grandchildren were ever prevented from seeing him. And he did not die on the Day of Trumpets of that year. Rather he died on September 23rd, 1995.

 

 

Now that you saw how Dave chose to explain the mistake as well as a family member’s personal account, listen to a short version of his comments from Part 388 and decide if he has a hold on reality.

 


Part 388 – Tkach Died on Trumpets

David C. Pack tells you everything you need to hear to make a judgment call if he is true or not.

 

Av 30 and Elul 1 passed this weekend without incident as a certain non-prophet/non-psychic said. I cried laughing when I heard Dave say this next bit.

 

@ 5:22 And the fact that we’re still here, in a way you will see, proves that I was right and God showed me something very powerful yesterday morning before we end with the two most potentially the two most exciting mysteries of the entire series, so we will close the series and close the last part of the series with that.

 

Dave cannot help but show how he was right about something he was wrong. That is twice in just the first five minutes. That is denial on a biblical scale. He is never “really wrong” and that should be of concern to those in RCG.

 

Why does God always show Dave “something” when it is too late?

 

@ 08:58 Now, if I’m God’s servant and He’s leading me, then He shows me one thing at a time, and in these recent days and I kinda rush and call it out. And sometimes there’s too much to rush through.

 

Dave, just stop rushing. You misunderstand the verse. That is not about you. Read my magnum opus from Thursday where I explained the how and why.

 

@ 09:09 But would He let our enemies know? But let's phrase it this way. Would He let His enemies know? Who are monitoring what we're learning. Would He do that? These are big problems.

 

For the sake of argument, I will temporarily suppose David C. Pack is referring to me as an enemy of God and thus, the enemy of Dave. (He is not my enemy but that is not relevant at the moment.)

 

This brings up the fact that I can write these articles and have a website at all. God is allowing all of it.

 

God is allowing “the leaker(s)” to publish everything coming out of RCG. God is allowing me to document the words of David C. Pack going back years in a precise, organized fashion so that those words can be pulled up in a moment to expose his biblical fraud.

 

If God wanted the leaker(s) to be stopped, they would be stopped. If God wanted me to be stopped, He would stop me. If I actually thought God did not want this of me, I would certainly choose to obey Him. Since He has thus far been “quiet” on that front, I will take His silence as permission by omission.

 

If God did not want “His” information to leave the walls of RCG, that would be done.

 

There is a purpose God is allowing David C. Pack to twist in the wind, now joined by his enablers who used to operate under the cover of anonymity. I cannot say I KNOW He wants me to do this just as I cannot say I KNOW He does not want me to do this.

 

Until I know for sure, my natural course is to continue. Just as Dave is following his natural course. The problem is…only one of us has a documented pattern of lies in our history.

 

You decide who is more credible with what is written and spoken. The antichrist serpent enemy of God? Or God’s apostle and sometimes Elijah?

 

Let God’s will be done in this matter. Amen.

 

 

@ 15:42 So, go let’s back and look at some of these month verses very briefly and I’ll show you some things that I came up with.

 

An accidental moment of truth prepping us for when he changes the meaning of the word “month.”

 

@ 16:03 We are overreading in some way that we could be more careful, as I say, exceedingly careful. We’re overreading the month verses. So, I’m gonna go back and I’m gonna rip those apart and see if any one of them says it’s a full month.

 

There is that unhelpful “we” making an appearance again.

 

The same “we” who keeps making mistakes all the time. The same “we” who has repetitively botched the series. The same “we” son of a bitch that makes Dave look like a fool every time a date is set and fails. 

Dave, I am telling you (as your not-enemy) that “we” is being a jerk again and you need to break things off before it continues much further. When Trumpets comes and goes without incident, you will blame “we” just as you always do.

 

One big reveal is that Dave says a “month” does not mean a full month. Yeah. Nothing happened starting at the 30-day point before Trumpets, so do not even worry about it.

 

It is a good thing he figured that out after he had to. It was all about a full month until a full month was no longer possible. Now it is about a not-a-full month. What a coinkydink!

 

I think Dave missed his calling. Instead of pursuing a career as a false apostle and false prophet, he should have gone into designing Escape Rooms. He can figure out every clue necessary for escaping from a prophetic failure.

 

The Bible has 783,137 words and using his superpower of reading comprehension deficit, he changes the words on the page so they achieve his goal, which is to escape from facing reality.

 

David C. Pack is a biblical fraud. David C. Pack is a prophetic fraud. David C. Pack has the most astonishing piss-poor reading comprehension skills of any human being I have ever heard. Once you understand, it becomes easy peasy to see how he "rips apart" Bible passages to make them say what he needs to when he needs it to. The Lego mess is rebuilt with the same pieces to make a different monstrosity.

 

Dave discovers in Hosea 5:7 that the word “month” in a few verses actually means “a new moon” which means it is not a full month. The word does mean “new moon” per the Jewish Publication Society, but Dave takes it a step further. Naturally. I would love to do a fact-check with them on this one.

 

@ 18:04 Now, they’re saying this is not a whole month at all. It’s not saying anything about a month at all. It’s strictly saying it’s a new moon.

 

In what corner of the Marvel Multiverse is any of this statement true? That is not the case in our current reality. Only in a Stanley Kubrick burst of light montage could this be considered possibly true.

 

People of The Restored Church of God: David C. Pack is conning you.

 

He is twisting the Hebrew to mean what he needs it to mean. If you study what he is about to present, it creates an avalanche of problems for everything you read in the Old Testament when you find the word “month.” He breaks the meaning and walks away. No Pottery Barn rules in Wadsworth.

 

Dave tries to distort our old friend (H2320) “chodesh” which is in the Old Testament 279 times. Month 254 times. New moon 20 times. Every person in RCG who has ever studied their Bible should know that word by heart.

 

And yet, this is another moonwalk in outer space by Dave to reverse engineer a Hebrew word to fit his current theology. Do not fall for it.

 

Note that he never told his audience the Hebrew word was chodesh. He did that on purpose because he knows that he has covered that word to death. Everyone inside RCG would know what you mean if you said “chodesh.”

 

His calculated, manipulative move was to keep all the facts from the brethren because if he declared "chodesh does not mean a month, it only means new moon” there would be cartoon exclamation points popping up over every head.

 

@ 18:13 And I immediately realized, “Oh wow.” Verse 8 describes a trumpet and coronet blowing. Verse 9 describes the day of rebuke. Verse 10 describes God's wraith. It says it's Trumpets. Oh my!

 

Dave almost said OMG. This is not the first time. Those verses say Trumpets because he needs them to.

 

According to the Nine Planets website, “A New Moon, in astronomy, marks the beginning of the first lunar phase.” NASA concurred with this.

 

The Coffee Kid and Pepper Boy must not have had the heart to inform Dave that a new moon occurs 12 times a year. Not only on Trumpets.

 

All of Dave's points on this topic suffer from the same fatal flaw. It does not say "month" in the verse, but "new moon" which he interprets as the Feast of Trumpets without being able to prove it.

 

He does the same technique over and over again which is why any teaching in the prophecy series is temporary. It does not have tangible truth as a foundation.

 

Month = New Moon = Trumpets = Dave is right yet again. Take that, you enemies of God!

 

He even piles this concept on in Matthew 24:22.

 

@ 36:40 So if you cut short the days, you shorten, you dock off the days, you had to have some baseline and that baseline has to be “the month.” If it’s something else, what is it? Where is it?

 

This is another one of those David C. Pack logic proofs that prove nothing. He has used this way of thinking to create prophetic doctrine inside The Restored Church of God before. What else could it be?

 

Maybe if they allowed voting in RCG, the folks in the audience could raise their hands and suggest ideas. There was a long pause and silence at that moment. Maybe he was waiting for an answer. David C. Pack loves when lay members give him ideas on how to interpret the scriptures.

 

It was at this point in the message that he finally moved on to other topics.

 

Due to the nature of the remaining content, Part 2 will cover more.


Marc Cebrian


See: Lost in Space (Part 1)

10 comments:

Anonymous said...

In the last of the mohican's the Indian looks at the women and says my father told me white man is a breed apart and makes no sense. An acts chapter 8 Simon megas had bewitched the people who thought that he was the great power of God. I think I see Dave conbined in both of these examples.

Anonymous said...

“The members of The Restored Church of God must be spending their Sunday in deep contemplation about whether to continue attending after hearing 'The Greatest Unending Story! (Part 390)' which ruined another Sabbath on August 27, 2022.”


Yet another Sabbath wasted and ruined by Dave Quack. That is the problem. Ideally, the Sabbath is supposed to be a DELIGHT and NOT a DISASTER.

Tonto said...

Adapted line from "2001 A Space Odyssey"...

"I want to help you. Dave, stop it. Stop, will you? Stop Dave. Will you stop, Dave? Stop Dave. I’m afraid. I’m afraid, Dave. Dave, your mind is going. I can feel it."

Anonymous said...

Didn't DCP recently reiterate that he was "in good" with HWA? Whereas other insiders characterized DCP's relationship with HWA as that of an annoying groupie.

DCP often reasons that God would not allow the Little Flock to be confused on prophecy - especially the leader of the Little Flock - "the most important man on earth"

He really believes it.

As an analogy, consider the case of DJT: he still believes he's the legit leader of the free world. Therefore it's okay for him to hang on to high-level government documents!

Anonymous said...

How Satan Wastes And Ruins Lives

PCG: Gospel suppressing and replacing, family wrecking, worshipping that arrogant runt, and Irish dancing.

RCG: A huge Bait & Switch scam, a massive “common” theft scam, worshipping an arrogant psycho, and endless wrong prophetic date guesses.

Anonymous said...

There's an old saying that may be pertinent to Dave's recent behavioral patterns: "When you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit."

The problem Dave faces is that he has asked, no commanded, extreme sacrifice from his RCG members. When you do this, then eventually you must pay the piper. That is part of the generally recognized but unwritten contract! You must deliver whatever the sacrifices were made for! His desperate barrage of failing prophecy affirms that he is well aware of this. It's why he keeps hanging it up there.

Also, he is perilously close to going down as, and being remembered as one of those classic tragic figures. He won't last forever, and based on Marc's recollections of the recent state of Dave's memory and interpretations of written and verbally expressed words, Mr. Pack is slowly slipping away from any sort of viability.

Anonymous said...

After all of Dave Pack's never-ending satanic noise, RCG cult members will not know anything about what Bible prophecy actually says or what is really going on out in the world. Nobody in the RCG will even remember anything that HWA had said about prophecy. Their minds will have been turned into a mush of confusion.

Oh well, it is not as if they were ever really using their minds anyway.

Phinnpoy said...

Pack is making things up, or his grip on reality is slipping away at a faster pace than before. I hope when he finally slips into total madness, ot won't be a Jonestown finale.

Anonymous said...

"Nobody in the RCG will even remember anything that HWA had said about prophecy."

***************

Nor should they.

In both the WCG and the RCG almost everything in the Old Testament is imperative, required, necessary, and essential to one’s salvation. Hold to and observe the portions of The Law Armstrong and Pack deliberate on and all is well; proven by scripture, even.

Except for a passage in Deuteronomy. Never a word about it is spoken; as if it didn’t exist. For those who are certain their salvation depends on what Armstrong and Pack have taught, the scripture should be covered over in their bibles with a dense marker. Like no others, Armstrong and Pack have everything right; they should be feared and followed.

Deuteronomy 18:22 ---

"If the prophet speaks in the Lord’s name but his prediction does not happen or come true, you will know that the Lord did not give that message. That prophet has spoken without my authority and need not be feared."

Anonymous said...

DCP & DJT, so similar, not intellectuals, don't read, just politicians, slinging mud at their competitors.