This was sent to me by a reader here on Banned about a member-led initiative for COGWA and UCG to keep the Feast of Tabernacles together in 2028.
This is a member-led initiative, but I can see it getting squashed by the powers that be in heart beat. And anyone supporting it being "punished," if not disfellowshipped.
The real reason the powers that be don't want this is, as we know, money. If you're loyalty is divided between two orgs, then so will your dollars. (That's one of the reasons, especially in COGWA, why people can get kicked out for attending another org.)
I doubt this will actually happen. But it's interesting to see.
COGWA and UCG members are launching a member-led initiative for a joint Feast of Tabernacles site. Anyone who has spent even one day in a Church of God organization knows this will never actually happen. Leadership in both groups is far too busy guarding their little thrones, protecting their domains, and making sure no one else gets to decide who speaks, who handles the money, or who gets the final veto for anything like this to survive contact with reality.
There are people from both organizations who were disfellowshipped by their original churches. That alone would turn any shared site into an awkward minefield the moment a disfellowshipped member had to sit in the same room-or worse, share a potluck table-with the very minister who marked them and showed them the door. Deep-seated resentment still runs through some of the ministers who felt betrayed when COGWA walked away from UCG in 2010. Those wounds did not magically heal because a handful of members posted a proposal online and set up a Facebook page. The men who spent years convincing themselves (and everyone else) that the other side was the problem are not suddenly going to discover humility because members want a joint Feast.
The Churches of God have spent decades perfecting the art of splitting, never the art of reuniting. From the post-WCG fragmentation onward, the pattern has been consistent: disagreements over governance, personality, "the work," or who gets to control the money and the microphones produce new letterhead, new Feast sites, and fresh claims of being the real continuation. UCG itself was born from one of those splits. COGWA then peeled off from UCG after years of internal friction that the official statements still describe as irreconcilable. Fifteen-plus years later, the two groups still run parallel Feast operations, parallel media, and parallel claims to be the faithful remnant. A member-driven "shared site" for 2028 does not erase any of that-especially when the people who would have to approve it spent the intervening years reminding everyone why they could not possibly share a stage, a budget, or a microphone.
The proposal itself tries hard to sound harmless: separate registration, shared speakers, 50/50 or attendance-based finances, no merger, no change to either church's government. On paper it is modest. In practice it would require ministers who still nurse grievances from the 2010 split to cooperate on budgets, speaker selection, children's programs, and emergency protocols while pretending the old scores have been settled. It would also require both administrations to trust that a joint site would not become a recruiting ground or a platform for members to compare notes on which organization has the better governance or the less authoritarian pastor. History suggests neither set of leaders is eager to run that experiment. They have never been known for risking their authority on the off chance that ordinary members might enjoy fellowship without their constant supervision.
Disfellowshipped members add another layer. COG culture has long treated marking and disfellowshipping as tools of order-handy reminders of who is in charge. Once someone has been put out, they are usually expected to stay out. Dropping them into a shared Feast with the minister who performed the ritual is not fellowship; it is theater that most of these leaders would rather avoid. The same goes for the ministers who still view the other side as the ones who abandoned the true structure or the true work. Anger that "still permeates" does not stay politely in the background when housing, offerings, and who gets the keynote slot have to be negotiated. These are the same men who can spend an hour explaining why unity is vital and then spend the next decade making sure it never happens on anyone else's terms.
Member initiatives like this one surface regularly in the various COG groups. They reflect real desire among some people for less isolation and more normal fellowship. They almost never survive contact with the ministerial layer that controls the calendars, the sites, the money, and the final yes-or-no. The track record is not subtle: the Churches of God have demonstrated, repeatedly and over decades, that their leaders are far better at forming new organizations than at sharing one. A joint Feast site would require both sides to act against that well-established pattern-and against the instinct of men who have spent their careers making sure the domain stays theirs. Betting against it has been the safer wager every time.



4 comments:
The Churches of God have spent decades perfecting the art of splitting……….you nailed it there. Reunification? More chance that the moon is made out of cheese. Too much bad blood and vibes between the ‘powers’ that be. It’s all about the cash flow, at the end of the day. And of course above all, salaries. The gospel takes second place, if even that. Their own disintegration speaks against them. There are genuine folks in these groups. I don’t judge them but religion has created enormous divisions. A unified Feast next year?
Unlikely. Can’t imagine Flurry Thiel and co giving up their privileges and power.
UCG and COGWA split because UCG was going to change all these major things right?
And.....
Nothing changed....
Same ol "democratic" Armstrongism.. Which is a step up from totalitarian Armstrongism but can bad roots bring forth any fruit?
And Armstrongism is nothing but strange fruit
I applaud them for trying because it will confirm why the church isn't growing if they dismiss this. It is really a shame that so many can "see" while the elders continue to make excuses.
Don't want to talk, don't want to reconcile, don't want to give up salary, pensions, rental car, etc, don't want to give up personal power for the sake Christ-commanded unity, don't want to budge on doctrinal details, don't want to re-study major doctrines in faith that Christ will lead, don't want to share with other men when I have a clique already that accepts me, don't want no-men when I have yes-men who support me all the time, don't want to give up my will for a consensus-led decision of the holy Spirit, don't want to change my convenient lifestyle and place myself in subjection to other elders who are inferior to me, don't want, don't want, don't want...
Let's see, Franks said it was an example of keeping the law of God when we were commanded to wear masks during covid but it isn't the command of God to be reconciled and unified?
Hard to believe most in Cogwa have spent more time in cogwa than in UCG. I wonder if they’ve stopped to consider the fruit in those 30-31 years.
“Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it” -Bueller
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