From our LCG source:
LCG is trying to keep it under wraps but their elderly dictator spent a few nights in the hospital recently. He looks thinner, smaller and weaker as each week passes. RCM now needs to be pushed around in a wheelchair.
Thankfully, he has an entourage of suck-ups doting over him so he hasn't had to go to one of those demon-filled nursing homes (yet).
It seems the end is near for the Rod of God.
It's sad that Rod Meredith literally spent decades with his nose in the Bible and he still doesn't get it. A more love-less, narcissistic, power hungry, greedy man would be hard to find.
Maybe if we all pray for RCM, he will wake up and repent for all the mean, spiteful things he's done; for all the abuses of power and all the lives he's ruined before he kicks the bucket.
21 comments:
A LCG source said, "It's sad that Rod Meredith literally spent decades with his nose in the Bible and he still doesn't get it".
MY COMMENT - Isn't that ironic - and true?
"In vain do they worship me".
Richard
I would say that Meredith will die someday.
Look, I'm a prophet! Like Amos! Look at me!!! Look at MEEEEEEEE!
I hope Rod is reborn as in Buddhist philosophy. May he come back as the cock-a-roacha that he is. Die you old fuck!
Aw heck. I kinda feel badly for the LCG members tonight. I mean, some of them probably read this in the late afternoon, and maybe took a nice hot bath and had a couple of shots of tequila to get into the right attitude for the sabbath, but are still having a difficult time with what they see going on around them in their church. This has got to be troubling for them.
On an uplifting note, at least Uncle Roddy was able to encourage them by assuring them in his letter that world events seem to be speeding up, and it looks like hard times are ahead. If that were to happen, it would mean that they had not wasted their entire lives basing their daily existence on expecting false prophecies to come true.
Further education can be painful, unfortunately. I'm thinking that those of us who pray should be remembering the LCG members in our prayers. One day, the Armstrong problem will all be straightened out and resolved, so that everyone can know their purpose and be happy.
BB
I pray for them in the same manner that I pray for my nephew who is a drug addict. I hope that someday they will come to realize that they are wasting their lives in pursuit of something that brings only pain and suffering without offering any tangible benefits. But we all know that the first step is admitting that you have a problem.
Comment was made regarding Rod Meredith saying: "...It seems the end is near for the Rod of God..."
And, based upon his "fruits/works" it appears he will have the same end as Isaiah, who lived with sin in his life, died, and knew he would live again. In fact, it appears Rod will be in the same resurrection as Isaiah was looking forward to. What resurrection? The second one, when all ancient physical Israelites will awake and repent/change:
"Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead." Isaiah 26:19
Herbert W. Armstrong (HWA) we know somewhat of.
Joe W. Tkach Senior, chosen (rather than Rod Meredith) by HWA, we know somewhat of, but one of his little helpers (including virtually all of the ministers and Rod Meredith): who are they? Who are you?
Jesus Christ said those associated with Him would go in and out and find pasture:
"I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture." John 10:9
A pasture is usually a place where one is being fed. In Rod's GLOBAL, as in his living manmade group, there was/is no strong meat. There is only lots of milk and junk food. Same for all of the xcogs...they are all striving to live off of the milk and junk food received from HWA. They have all stagnated, been in some sort of a holding pattern, going nowhere...continuing to push the milk and junk food, which they received from HWA, at us. Have any of them learned anything new? Grown in grace and knowledge...in anything?
Yes, Rod Meredith, who are you? Gerald Weston, who are you? Really? Winnail, Franks, Coulter, Kubik, Bob Thiel, Dave Pack, even James Malm ... who do you think you are? Vote your leaders in and out by your will? Where was/is God in any of that thinking? One big confused mess...
Hopefully, the end is near for all of this confusion...a confusion that almost seems to be organized........organized confusion for the sheep.
Yes, Rod will repent, but when? I think scripture tells us possibly as follows in Psalms 22:
27 All the ends of the world shall remember and turn unto the LORD: and all the kindreds of the nations shall worship before thee.
28 For the kingdom is the LORD’S: and he is the governor among the nations.
29 All they that be fat upon earth shall eat and worship: all they that go down to the dust shall bow before him: and none can keep alive his own soul.
Yes, Rod may have to first be returned to dust, but he will return with an entirely different attitude.
God just may have His veys to help Rod Meredith...and the xcog leaders (e.g. Weston, Winnail, Franks, Coulter, Kubik, Bob Thiel, Dave Pack, even James Malm (who still does not demonstrate as much zeal as he thinks he does), etc....to eventually cooperate.....and yet bear good fruit (God's fruit, of course, and not their own fruit/works), BUT...
...TIME WILL TELL!
John
John, you are mistaken. A deathbed repentance is worthless. The purpose of human existence is to build the mind of God. This takes many years. If a baptised member has failed to do so in the allocated time, it's off to the lake of fire. Rod and other ministers will sizzle in the lake of fire. Their fate is sealed.
What to do, what to do?
I remember when Herbert died. We had been told that god was going to allow Herbert to see the "millenium." But then he died. Everyone was confused? What did this mean? The clarifications came thick and fast. "Well," they said, "that's what we thought, but apparently, god is working things out differently than we expected...blah, blah, blah...according to his perfect timing...blah, blah, blah..." Honestly, It's been 30 years since then, and the die-hard Armstrongite believers are more confused than ever. What's going on? Why hasn't anything happened yet? Wasn't Herbert's "witness to all nations" supposed to be immediately followed by "and then shall the end come"? Why are there all these also-ran "works"? Didn't Herbert already finish the work? Isn't the "end-time witness" done? Where the heck is god? I know we're not supposed to say he's delaying his coming, but, come on, it's been thirty years since "things were "speeding up" and "the work" was finished? We were told that once things started to happen, then everything would fall into place, according to apocalyptic end-times prophecy, real quick, and Jesus would return lickety-split. What is god waiting for?
Now it looks like Joe Jr., the officially appointed successor, is getting ready to hang up his shingle. The Rod of God, obviously the man who god had wanted to everyone to realize was Herbert's TROO successor, seems to be going downhill fast. What happens if Rod Meredith kicks the bucket, and still no tribulation? No hint that a glorified Jesus is waiting in the wings with his trusty white steed, sword drawn? Now what am I supposed to think? It's almost enough to make one conclude that Herbert was a false prophet.
Naw, that's impossible. Besides, nothing like that has ever happened before.
So confused...
Anon: 9:41 "to build the mind of God." What does that mean? Aren't we saved by grace through faith, not of works? Rewards come from works, but salvation is by faith. No? Does it really matter when people turn to God? If one must "build the mind of God", how does anyone know if they have completed the job? We HAVE been reconciled. We HAVE BEEN "born again". These expressions in the NT are all in the past tense. It has already taken place.
Amazing to read comments from folks who seem so confident they can pass divine judgment.
Well actually we can! Once you step away from the lies and heretical teachings of Rod Meredith it is quickly apparent that the man is NOT a Christian and never has been. How many more years do you plan on sitting by as families are ripped apart or even murdered because of his teachings?
Anon 9:41 AM,
I agree that, as you wrote: "...A deathbed repentance is worthless;" however, the verses cited are not in reference to any such thing. Have you met anybody who has built "the mind of God?" I haven't.
John the Baptist spoke of a baptism of repentance:
"John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins." Mark 1:4
Baptism pictures death. Repentance means change. For most, the changes won't occur until they are resurrected.
Human beings sin. What are the wages of sin? Death. So, if one dies and is then resurrected, where is the sin? The wages/penalty were/was paid! Wasn't it?
So, why a lake of fire? If death was the wages, and the wages were paid by death, then where does a lake of fire fit into that picture for "Rod and other ministers?"
The scriptures appear to show that the change/repentance, mentioned by John the Baptist, for most is yet future.
I believe that "Rod and the other ministers" will not sizzle in some lake of fire, but be surprised they were not a part of the first resurrection and came up in the second resurrection with more of the "mind of God" b/c God's Spirit will then (not today John 14:17 "Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world ((Could Rod and other ministers be in reality "of the world" and not know it?)) cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.") be poured out upon them and be the major factor in the change to occur in their minds...at that time: not today.
None among us has that "mind of God" built such that with all of their free will, free moral idiocy, has chosen to never sin again, and has chosen to make their decision stick for the rest of their lives...every 1440 minutes of each day.
Oh, James Mahl may strive to tell us that he has all of the necessary commandment-keeping zeal, that a Rod Meredith can only imagine and by his writings beat the rest of us with, but who does James and Rod think they are kidding?
You wrote: "...The purpose of human existence is to build the mind of God," but how does one do that?
We are told that: "For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly..."
But why? So we can build the mind of God? No, "...but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,"
How does one build the mind of God if one cannot direct his/her own steps (Jer 10:23), has evil imaginations (Gen 6:5, 8:21) from youth, is composed of flesh that will not ever glory in God's presence (1 Cor 1:29), etc.?
It appears that the "deck is stacked against us:" human beings...
And time will tell...
John
4:26 PM You build the mind of God the same way that you learn a musical instrument or learn how to dance. That is, you make the commitment, then use repetition. This repetition is pointed out in Psalm 1:2
Psalm 1:2 But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.
Practicing a behavior in your mind, gives you 70% of the results of physically performing the act. Hence athletes and musicians practice in their minds. For instance, can watch Morgan Freeman being kind and diplomatic to the crabby old woman in the 'Driving Miss Daisy' movie, and through repetition, acquire this Godly trait. Eternal life is a gift from God, but He will not allow another Satan into His kingdom. Meaning, a minimum level of good habits and convictions are required for entry into the kingdom. There are books on how to grow as a person.
This very question is an example of ministers not doing their job, by feeding their members worthless Protestant slop.
How often have we been told that Acts 2:38, Be baptized for the forgiveness of sin and told that the baptism is the means of forgiveness, essential for salvation. John Baptist spoke of baptism for repentance. The work "for" is better translated in both passages, "because." Imagine John the Baptist baptizing someone over and over again "for repentance." Every time the person comes up out of the water, gasping, John asks, "Do you repent?" He baptized BECAUSE he had already repented. Peter baptized BECAUSE the person had already been forgiven of his sins. Baptism is a symbol of what has already taken place in the person's life, not the means of making it happen.
Steve D Baptism means entering into a contract with God, with accompanying terms and conditions. It means for instance, agreeing to follow Gods lead in our life. By contrast, Herbie and fellow ministers hide this. I have never heard a sermon, or read an article in church literature, on our responsibility to follow Gods lead, or how to recognize Gods lead in our lives. It appears that the ministers of 'Gods church,' have pushed God to one side. Just like Moses.
"God... will not allow another Satan into His kingdom."
And we know this, how?
The Bible contains examples of God changing His mind.
Maybe He'll let the original Satan in, along with other ones. (No pun intended with that contraction.)
After all, to extrapolate from the progression of God-writings in the Bible, it's clear that the newer Gods are far more forgiving than the older Ones were.
7.03 AM, There are many Scriptures pointing out that sin will not be tolerated in the kingdom. For instance,
Revelation 21:27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.
The trunk of the moral tree, is that everyone has a right to life. And 'life' doesn't mean just being physically alive, but rather being happy and successful. Eg,
John 10:10 .....I am come that they might have life, and that they might HAVE IT MORE ABUNDANTLY.
In the kingdom, there will no verbally abusive, slanderous, malicious, murderous etc person, making other peoples lives a living hell. This is not life for all.
Everyone who lives in a abusive environment comprehends this. The abusers, who typically minimize the harm being done, do not. But that's their problem.
on April 9, 2016 at 9:41 AM
Anonymous wrote:-
"John, you are mistaken. A deathbed repentance is worthless."
Perhaps you overlook these scriptures:-
"Luk 23:40 But the other answering rebuked him, saying, Dost not thou fear God, seeing thou art in the same condemnation?
Luk 23:41 And we indeed justly; for we receive the due reward of our deeds (sins): but this man hath done nothing amiss.
Luk 23:42 And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.
Luk 23:43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee today, thou shalt be with me in paradise."
(vs.43 edited to give true meaning.)
cheers
ralph.f
Still, I ask: Are there no Biblical examples of God changing His mind?
If there are, my point stands.
Ralph, in Luke 23.43 Christ could tell that this person would with his teachable attitude,one day qualify for eternal life when he is resurrected back to human life. Nothing more. It takes time to grow as a person,just like any plant or animal. This is reality 101.
Having a WW past since birth and a few treks through her offshoots (could that be better stated "offspring" as in daughters?) and now a church-less strong Believer, it's hard to get very excited over the impending death and future of a man who, along with his peers, will most likely flail away at abusing, scaring, wounding, threatening, and lying to his listeners to his last breath. But think of what great good might come if any of these men would actually experience a deathbed repentance? He will leave a mess of arrogant men to divide up the flock, and in that flock are real people with real lives and deep need of healing from the debilitating impact of mind-controlling cults. That, to me, is the real story, and the real tragedy.
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