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Marc, you are doing an extraordinary public service in your work exposing Dave Pack. You have every right to have a little fun with the monster while you are pulling him off his evil pedestal.
And I hope most people view your video as cathartic and fun. But (as you acknowledge, and for the better) you aren't a minister, and you don't have the decades of training that Pack is now wasting and casting aside. You have neither Pack's training nor his insanity and evil. As a result, you aren't on your strongest ground when you try to finesse doctrinal points against him. Some viewers may watch this latest video and conclude that you are a confused "babe" and not someone who has woken up to Pack's ever-growing mountain of lies and misapplications of scripture.
Please continue to publicize Pack's rantings, which contradict themselves as well as the Bible. But let me gently advise you that, based on this latest video, your issues with spiritual/physical type/antitype are your own, and won't convince people who are under Pack's spell. For example, you dismiss the idea of spiritual riches by telling us that such riches are invisible. In fact, however, many will credibly point to the fruits of the Spirit as spiritual riches that by definition are visible to others who are "shining their light" by their works and Christian character.
Do you see? Before minute 3 in your 20 minute video, by virtue of your comments, some listeners will dismiss you as not credible and likely not listen further. Yet you have so much powerful testimony to share regarding Pack, it's such a shame that you risk undermining that with your attempts at spiritual critique. Maybe you can run your messages past someone with more experience, like Mr. Denee, before you share them with your audience?
I havent laughed so hard in a long time. Gary or whoever the commentator is...you nailed pack at every turn. It was great! And the things dave was saying!! RCG is the flock if slaughter!!! Indeed a Freudian slip! And weren't 2 of the 3 shepherds Rod Meredith and Gerald Flurry ...don't remember if dave named a third, but bwana Bob liked to think that dave was naming him as the third shepherd. I think dave is calling out himself to be one of the three. Just as he accuses others for the sins he himself does.
As for Halloween, dave has used that date before...as well as xmas, new year's, the fast of Esther, every holy day and many dates around holy days, repeatedly...don't think he's used Groundhog's Day as a revealed date.. But he is sure stuck in Bill Murray's nightmare! Of course dave will speak again in his greatest failed prophecy series...it is as sure as the the sun will rise tomorrow!
"Dare I say the 'correct' 1335"..hahahaha. Dave you have never been so funny! "I know the Bible pretty well...and you can't argue with that...or anything else that I say! I just fulfilled the final prophecy of God and Revalation and there won't be a part 403...until around Halloween or whenever I get that uncomfotable feeling and God tells me that more of the mystery has been cleared up and I will hold you hostage for 4 hours or so to explain the new understanding....the new present truth according to me, the greatest false apostle and prophet who has ever lived."
Anonymous Oct 28 @ 1:01pm - That's not my video, man. There is a new kid on the block and I do not know who he is. :) - I do have hundreds of hours of Dave that I have contemplated in the past doing a series of "crazy quotes" videos. I'm happy with writing for the meantime.
The 1335 could be the days of the great tribulation beginning with the abomination of desolation in the temple in 70 AD and ending with the last siege by the Romans in 74 AD at Masada. Life then returned to somewhat being normal for the Jew. Wikipedia says Jewish life "thrived" after the Roman siege in Judea.
To the Thiels, the Flurrys, the Weinlands, the Armstrongs, the COgs, etc: the great tribulation was in Judea, 70-74 AD, won't happen again apparently to the same intensity as in future Jewish revolts, and Jerusalem has since 74 AD been trodden down by Gentiles - Luke 21:20-24. Wikipedia indicates Titus thought he was an instrument of God's divine wrath.
How can people sit through Dave's anal-retentive drivel about supposedly unknowable minutiae? Is there anyone who is enthusiastically thinking "Wow! I really need this to live!"
This is a fascinating psych study, right up there with the Stanford Prison Experiments, Stockholm Syndrome, Codependency, and the many post mortem analyses of the Third Reich.
Subtitle it as "The Effects of Gaslighting on a Predominantly White Fundamentalist Apocalyptic Religious Cult", in which we get to witness its leader metaphorically expel a high volume of gaseous waste material on his followers each day, and to observe the progressive effects and their varying endurance levels, as well as to establish the timeline for their tolerance as the group navigates the path to implosion.
So, get out the chips and salsa, and grab an icy tallboy from the refer, pull up a chair, and sit down as we watch a ministerial version of Dr. Mengele respond to his own quixotic dna and borderline personality disorders and the effects these have on the willing participants who are his followers and simultaneous subjects of his experiments.
Then his gaslighting is disproportionately harming or exploiting minorities, 5:43. It's as simple as that! Based on what you just shared, I'd have to upgrade the classification to a hate crime!
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May the common wealth, er, Commonwealth of Pack be broken up and the king deposed.
Marc, you are doing an extraordinary public service in your work exposing Dave Pack. You have every right to have a little fun with the monster while you are pulling him off his evil pedestal.
And I hope most people view your video as cathartic and fun. But (as you acknowledge, and for the better) you aren't a minister, and you don't have the decades of training that Pack is now wasting and casting aside. You have neither Pack's training nor his insanity and evil. As a result, you aren't on your strongest ground when you try to finesse doctrinal points against him. Some viewers may watch this latest video and conclude that you are a confused "babe" and not someone who has woken up to Pack's ever-growing mountain of lies and misapplications of scripture.
Please continue to publicize Pack's rantings, which contradict themselves as well as the Bible. But let me gently advise you that, based on this latest video, your issues with spiritual/physical type/antitype are your own, and won't convince people who are under Pack's spell. For example, you dismiss the idea of spiritual riches by telling us that such riches are invisible. In fact, however, many will credibly point to the fruits of the Spirit as spiritual riches that by definition are visible to others who are "shining their light" by their works and Christian character.
Do you see? Before minute 3 in your 20 minute video, by virtue of your comments, some listeners will dismiss you as not credible and likely not listen further. Yet you have so much powerful testimony to share regarding Pack, it's such a shame that you risk undermining that with your attempts at spiritual critique. Maybe you can run your messages past someone with more experience, like Mr. Denee, before you share them with your audience?
THAT WAS ABSOLUTELY AWESOME!!!!!!
My 2 favorites were, I would take out a loan on 403 and I know the Bible pretty well...haha haha.
Priceless. I could only listen to it though, because I am terrified of clowns, both Bozo and Dave.
More please!
I havent laughed so hard in a long time. Gary or whoever the commentator is...you nailed pack at every turn. It was great! And the things dave was saying!! RCG is the flock if slaughter!!! Indeed a Freudian slip! And weren't 2 of the 3 shepherds Rod Meredith and Gerald Flurry ...don't remember if dave named a third, but bwana Bob liked to think that dave was naming him as the third shepherd. I think dave is calling out himself to be one of the three. Just as he accuses others for the sins he himself does.
As for Halloween, dave has used that date before...as well as xmas, new year's, the fast of Esther, every holy day and many dates around holy days, repeatedly...don't think he's used Groundhog's Day as a revealed date.. But he is sure stuck in Bill Murray's nightmare!
Of course dave will speak again in his greatest failed prophecy series...it is as sure as the the sun will rise tomorrow!
"Dare I say the 'correct' 1335"..hahahaha. Dave you have never been so funny!
"I know the Bible pretty well...and you can't argue with that...or anything else that I say! I just fulfilled the final prophecy of God and Revalation and there won't be a part 403...until around Halloween or whenever I get that uncomfotable feeling and God tells me that more of the mystery has been cleared up and I will hold you hostage for 4 hours or so to explain the new understanding....the new present truth according to me, the greatest false apostle and prophet who has ever lived."
Anonymous Oct 28 @ 1:01pm - That's not my video, man. There is a new kid on the block and I do not know who he is. :) - I do have hundreds of hours of Dave that I have contemplated in the past doing a series of "crazy quotes" videos. I'm happy with writing for the meantime.
I'm in tears.....
The 1335 could be the days of the great tribulation beginning with the abomination of desolation in the temple in 70 AD and ending with the last siege by the Romans in 74 AD at Masada. Life then returned to somewhat being normal for the Jew. Wikipedia says Jewish life "thrived" after the Roman siege in Judea.
To the Thiels, the Flurrys, the Weinlands, the Armstrongs, the COgs, etc: the great tribulation was in Judea, 70-74 AD, won't happen again apparently to the same intensity as in future Jewish revolts, and Jerusalem has since 74 AD been trodden down by Gentiles - Luke 21:20-24. Wikipedia indicates Titus thought he was an instrument of God's divine wrath.
How can people sit through Dave's anal-retentive drivel about supposedly unknowable minutiae? Is there anyone who is enthusiastically thinking "Wow! I really need this to live!"
This is a fascinating psych study, right up there with the Stanford Prison Experiments, Stockholm Syndrome, Codependency, and the many post mortem analyses of the Third Reich.
Subtitle it as "The Effects of Gaslighting on a Predominantly White Fundamentalist Apocalyptic Religious Cult", in which we get to witness its leader metaphorically expel a high volume of gaseous waste material on his followers each day, and to observe the progressive effects and their varying endurance levels, as well as to establish the timeline for their tolerance as the group navigates the path to implosion.
So, get out the chips and salsa, and grab an icy tallboy from the refer, pull up a chair, and sit down as we watch a ministerial version of Dr. Mengele respond to his own quixotic dna and borderline personality disorders and the effects these have on the willing participants who are his followers and simultaneous subjects of his experiments.
At the feast site where I was over half the congregation was black as well as quite a few hispanics.
Then his gaslighting is disproportionately harming or exploiting minorities, 5:43. It's as simple as that! Based on what you just shared, I'd have to upgrade the classification to a hate crime!
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