UPDATE:
It has been reported that Sasha died last night.
Right now Sasha is being treated at the North East Georgia Medical Center in Georgia - Gainesville/ His condition seems a little more hopeful as a couple of days ago he opened his eyes and focused on the person talking to him, the Drs say he is most likely aware what is going on as the strokes didn't affect his thinking, just his ability to communicate in Anyway- so it's like being trapped with ones own thoughts. So lets continue Praying that God intervenes for Sasha and raises him up again to full recovery.
From several sources today:
Urgent Prayer Request Dear friends and community members,I come to you with a heavy heart to ask for your prayers for Elder Aleksandar "Sasha" Veljic of the Hope of Israel Worldwide Church of God. He recently suffered a stroke while visiting brethren in the Atlanta, Georgia area.Sasha has been a dedicated servant of God, spreading His message of love and hope far and wide. Now, in this challenging time, he needs our support more than ever. Let us lift him up in prayer, asking for God's healing touch and strength to guide him through this difficult journey.Please join me in praying for Sasha's swift recovery and for comfort and peace for his family and loved ones during this uncertain time. Together, let's surround them with love, support, and the power of prayer.Thank you for keeping Sasha and the brethren he serves in your thoughts and prayers.
Apparently, he is now in a coma.
Sasha, along with Terry Nelson, are the ones who exposed the lies of the Great Bwana Bob Thiel and his so-called ministers/evangelists in Africa. From adultery, thievery, witchcraft, and money mismanagement, the corruption in the improperly named "continuing" Church of God was exposed for all to see.
The Great Bwana to Africa made sure to let everyone know today that he is praying for Sasha.
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So many of us love Sasha so much, please to our Father for Sasha's healing.
It's been decades since I've seen him, but Sasha is a good dear person. I pray for his full recovery.
Im sure that Thiel thinks that this is some kind of curse from God because Veljic left his tiny cult and has spoken against it.
Let us note that no tornadoes have disrupted Sasha's activities. And we can only imagine the stress his body and his conscience have been under, in light of his years supporting the Bitter Bwana.
It's been a while since I commented on here- First thing id like to say is Sasha does need our Prayers, as this is one of those moments where God's intervention is Necessary- I'm sure the stress of Sasha knowing the truth of the Evil that Bob Thiel is supporting definitely was a contributing factor in his current condition, I know it hasn't been easy for me and my Family either- some of our former friends in CCOG and the one we thought we could trust did turn against us and have accused of telling lies and trying to destroy the Work; we thought we knew Bob Thiel, but we only Now in this last year realize his claims of being a prophet of God are false- especially all the evidence, including pictures, Facebook chats and even official Kenyan Documents and scores of witnesses, show he is only worried about saving his reputation and his obsessed idea of being a prophet of God and his claims of the fastest growing COG in this 21 st century / So I'm not surprised that this hasn't caused Sasha to experience a Stroke and other stress related illnesses. Sasha and me also realize the abusive so called Philadelphia loving Government of Bob Thiel and yes even in Worldwide and other Churches of God- His message has always included an Apology for the Abusive treatment that I'm sure thousands endured during the Worldwide days and Current times; that's why Banned exists, if it wasn't for the Abusive treatment and Cultish Control in Current and Past times, most likely Banned wouldn't be. Yes, I've been betrayed, Yes Sasha has been betrayed, Betrayed and told to remain silent and turn a blind eye to the Abused innocent by a Man that claims to be a Prophet of God, to put up with in your face Satanists and ungodly Men, to be told to follow his Philadelphia Government or lose our Crown - same old story- Abuse Control - Hope of Israel wont tolerate abuse. Yes I was hurt, yes I said things out of Anger and disbelief, because a Man I trusted and Sasha trusted betrayed our trust and expected to remain silent and obedient to his Philadelphia Government. So please pray for Sasha to recover, so he can serve the Brethren in Love and Pray for the abused and innocent in the CCOG and other churches of God- It's really only about Love- you can claim to know all truth and all knowledge and all Prophecy, but if you have not Love- it is nothing/ Cry aloud Spare not- Terry A Nelson
Just a terrible shame. It's another poignant example of the many casualties caused by the authoritarian management style embraced by and taught by Herbert W. Armstrong, his legacy, as it now also infects the splinter groups.
HWA did not believe in or practice the rights and freedoms our Constitution and Bill of Rights assures us are God-given and inalienable. HWA did not believe in freedom of speech or freedom ot the press. He did not practice due process, or provide the right to appeal.
Many people have soured on Christianity because of some of the authoritarian assholes who believe it is their duty to enforce it, and do so in the cruelest of ways. Hope their tailors have all the measurements required for their mill stones! You always pick up the tab for your lifestyle on your last ride!
Terry,
I knew Sasha years ago and recognized his genuineness, his good humor, and his care for others. What is the best way to contact him?
Praying for my friend Sasha.
Right now Sasha is being treated at the North East Georgia Medical Center in Georgia - Gainesville/ His condition seems a little more hopeful as a couple of days ago he opened his eyes and focused on the person talking to him, the Drs say he is most likely aware what is going on as the strokes didn't affect his thinking, just his ability to communicate in Anyway- so it's like being trapped with ones own thoughts. So lets continue Praying that God intervenes for Sasha and raises him up again to full recovery, so he can complete his Mission to announce the soon coming Kingdom of God and give hope to this Suffering World and also give hope and a place of refuge for the Thousands of Former Church of God Brethren who have been abused in times Past and are currently being abused by the so called Arrogant - Selfish- Uncaring Shepherds-who don't know the meaning of Servant Leadership/ anyone who wants daily updates on Sasha's condition can contact me at 218-342-7259 or terryanelson1968@gmail.com. I'll put you in contact with the Person in Gainesville who is taking care of things for Sasha, Terry Nelson
At risk of seeming repetitive, I would like to post my ongoing heartfelt prayers for this beloved man Sasha Veljic. I am repeating my prayers for Sasha based on Parable Of The Persistent Widow (Luke 18:1-8).
https://www.biblestudytools.com/interlinear-bible/kjv/luke/passage/?q=luke+18:1-8
To Terry Nelson, thank you sir for your caring updates this site allowed you to post!
Sad sad sad.
It amazes me that good hearted people who acknowledge the wrong and abusive aspects of
Armstrongism and seek to repent of them and change them seem to pass before their time.
These would seemingly be the hope for the movement, and a healthy program of renewal and growth. I'm aware of several such examples including Ron Wallen, Ian Boyne, and now, Sasha. On the other hand, bad people who are doing great harm seem to almost be blessed with eternal life! It just doesn't compute on any logical level!
responding to 1:01:00 PM PDT: All too many "leaders" in these COG groups would believe that God is blessing them and endorsing them because the folks who speak against what they do die or suffer and these "ministers" continue on. King Solomon observed the same as what you've pointed out. Mr. Gerald Weston of the Living Church Of God once raved at the congregation and said, "And even if we ministers are wrong remember this. God was angry with the people, Not Moses!" Well, this is sure a twisting and a misuse of what the holy scriptures do actually teach. One can certainly believe in and practice the teachings of the Sabbath, the Holy Days and what they mean, Jesus as our personal savior, the truth of grace, etc and be fully against the systemic evils done in their name by these heartless devils who call themselves ministers and their hangers-on. Sure, we see the same things in protestant churches, but in groups like ccog and lcg they are throughout from top to bottom because of this top down stuff and the authoritarian and fear-based hold the ministers have on the people.
Thanks to so many here with very warm comments for a pleasant man our dear friend Sasha. We love his relatives in Serbia too.
Sasha often mentioned he wasn't fully convinced that covid vaccines were ultimately safe for everyone, safe with no side effects.
But he took the vaccine anyway to embark on a trip to very border-restrictive Australia, to meet someone there patiently & politlely waiting at least 7 years for their baptism service.
The organization he & Sasha were in at that time has a fussy main top leader who reportedly later or at some point, STILL questioned the patience of the person Sasha went to baptise...while the leader constantly presides over frequent, regular & timely approvals on many, many fairly fast-track Kenyan & African baptisms.
Sasha was somewhat uncomfortable with the covid vaccine but decided in faith that it was part of service to help in spiritual matters. Is there a chance his strokes were a remote side effect of his body or genetics reaction to covid vaccine?
Does Sasha's former leader possibly appreciate the dedicated efforts Sasha's life was all about?
The rude leader wrote an otherwise respectful brief life synopsis history of Sasha (including past Ambassador College achievements) after his passing, but took one last subtle jab at this pleasant fellow...the leader dismisses the significance of the impressive collections in Sasha's Serbian apartment, the Hope Of Israel library. The leader (Bob) then pokes one last subtle jab at Sasha, regarding : "Sasha never married, but often lived with his mother until she died a few years ago."
Sasha likely helped his Mom to serve her during any times of sharing housing with her. But his impressive home library/apartment where many church services for local & international online community were lovingly conducted, was not mentioned...although the poke of an adult's time living with a parent in a poor country holds prominece in the account from his former leader.
I wonder if the leader of c_cog mentioned the life and recent passing of Mike Radtke who had been his man in c-cog Canada? Mr. Radtke ended his days with the Canadian Church Of God. He was smart, pragmatic, playf7ul inside, and he was no one's slave.
NO! no he hasn't, 3:57...the Grand Podium Premier Mr. Thiel has not as far as I can tell, made mention of the passing of Mr. Mike Radtke. Mike was in our fellowship once as much as many others & he gave some decent Youtube sermonettes in older CCOG listings.
Thanks for offering the polite announcement here of Mr. Radtke's passing.
(wait till you soon see a new detailed follow-up which challenges Bob's superficial doormat/patsy lesson on deaths occuring "when it's best for the person"...a lesson full of unhappy cloudy "logic" regarding God's will, timing, & human freewill-or-not/& logic)
Kolchak
If you want to send me that detailed follow up I will post it as is in a separate posting. no2hwa@yahoo.com
thanks! (hoping though, to still retain my anon. email & i.p. etc., to not show publicly then...since cranky saboteurs often set us up deluged with telemarketer plague or pyramid scheme or even just bully shame if they don't like what they read here)
Yes, email address will not be shared.
So sad to hear about this. Sasha was a subscriber to our church newsletter, The Churches of God Newsletter, which was written and published by my wife and me from 1998-2004. I personally corresponded with him a number of times during our publishing years.
He may have died from getting the poisonous clot shots which are laced with cobra snake venom. Like Satan, the Deep State wants us all dead.
& if so, then Bob just figures, "oh, these folllowers...they're a dime a dozen"
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