Several sources have contributed to what is below about the current problems going on within the Church of God Assembly, with Sheldon Monson, and others.
Trouble has been brewing for some time in CGA, leading Sheldon Monson to recently dismiss the Board of CGA because he did not want to get voted out and wanted more control over where and how the church's tithe money was spent.
Adding to this upheaval, an ex-employee recently gave a sermon about Judas stealing from the money bag. His sermon was seen by a lot of people as a direct jab at Monson's wife Joette. Sources say that she recently lost her high-paying job in the world and decided to work for the church, though the church did not officially notify members that she was doing so.
Church members had caught on to the fact that both Sheldon and Joette had their own Cadillac Escalade (the current cost of an Escalade is anywhere from $88,000 - $105,000 and higher, depending on what you add).
Then, kids being kids, word got out that the Monson's recently spent several days at a Disney Park (a minimum of at least $1,500+ a day for tickets and nightly stay in a Disney hotel, excluding the cost of food, which will add another $300-500 minimum a day, plus travel and the bill final bill is enormous).
Knowing how certain church leaders and ministers through the decades had the church pay for all of their travel, many in CGA believe that the church paid for this entire trip with the church's money. Being the Grand PooBah does have its perks!
Many are also connecting the sermon about Judas stealing coins out of the moneybag to blatant misuse of church funds for things other than preaching a gospel message. This should come as no surprise, considering how rampant the financial abuse was in the old Worldwide Church of God and in the ranks of its predecessors.
No one should be the least bit surprised that this, considering this is the legacy that ALL COG groups currently deal with. They all know better and know they should do things right, but that money is sooooo appealing and so easy to use. Some things in the Church of God never change.
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What “work” are they doing? How many shitty Kitchen-clan esque website works with links to HWA must the COG endure?
At least with Catholicism you get new popes and new ideas. Each of these “leaders” don’t reinvent the wheel. They promise to make the GOG great again and talk about the glory days.
The COG and especially splinters like Monson’s are endlessly regressive and can’t go anywhere but backwards.
This post reads like a smarmy sarcastic confession.
Every knee shall bow to Jesus Christ and give an account.
He dismissed the board because they weren't rubber stamping his decisions like the WCG board would for HWA? What a surprise. Seems to me like they need to review the epistles of Paul to remind themselves that each church had multiple elders, not one man rule; that those chosen to be elders had to be men of character, not charisma; and not lovers of money, etc.
Sheldon didn't want to wear a mask during COVID, but now he demands the right to mask his conduct as Grand Poobah of COGASS. Typical ACOG behavior.
Disney? The media company that has become a purveyor of all things woke and LGBT? If Monson considers Disney to be his kind of entertainment, that says a lot about the man.
There's an ongoing explosion of good self help books and videos on human relations and personal growth, yet all the splinters maintain an intellectual burka in their writings and sermons. It's basic material that they rarely move beyond, and even then, ever so slightly. This stifles members growth, keeping them child-like and controllable. This is more discernable in the ACOGs sister church, the Jehovah's Witnesses, where members clap in their meeting halls when a member chooses to shun a college education and become a bus driver instead.
Sheldon sure has gained weight since I knew him 35 years ago. I have to give my grudging respect to ACOG leaders like Pack and Weston for not turning into fat slobs like HWA and Flurry.
Monson is now at a crossroads. Do the standards that Monson applied to Weston and Winnail also apply to him? Or is this the point at which Monson will take his first step toward becoming the next Flurry, Pack or Thiel, declaring that the standards he applies toward others must not be applied toward him?
Which COG group has determined tithing is no longer a command? The only one who has changed his mind about tithing is Creflo Dollar of Creflo Dollar Ministries?..... not a COG (Dollar? - can't make this stuff up).
Mrs. Monson has yet to update her LinkedIn status to reflect losing her job. (She seems to like the K.C. Monarchs more than the Royals.)
But I agree with the earlier comment - what "work" is CGA doing? If it wasn't for COG-watching sites like this one, I don't think I'd know it exists.
Do you know how much bus drivers and train drivers earn ?
Armstrongism has never been a truly Christian religion. It rather devotes itself to the obsessive and compulsive adherence to the hand picked set of laws of the Old Covenant Torah, to which Herbert W. Armstrong referred as his restored truths.
Obsessive compulsiveness is a mental disorder or disease that is similar to alcoholism in that it progresses in its destructiveness much the same as alcoholism or other manifestations of an addictive personality.
It is therefore no surprise that later day splinter groups and their leaders would be in further retrograde, degenerating with their disease. That's basically what this blog is all about! Our observations of that downward spiral. Some of the news items reported lead one to believe that some of the groups are close to bottoming out. Well, at least, one can only hope!
As with alcoholism, there is no cure, but there are some very positive ways of dealing with the disease. It becomes a "beautiful mind" thing, and unfortunately not everyone is blessed with a beautiful mind!
BB
Gotta laugh, our great Prophet Bobby already reported about Sheldon today, he even admits he got the news off Banned, yet he says Banned doesn't tell the truth on anything, yet he uses Banned to criticize the other COGS; Poor Bob, he's getting conned so bad, yet he thinks he's God's annointed. If he really knew , I wonder if he'd commit Soursideš¤Ŗ
My family have a few little ceramic cats for decoration in the household. One is holding a little sign saying ‘the more humans I know the more I like my cat’.
Well said I says lol. Looking at the Armstrong movement I agree with the statement.
If these things are true, then I think it would break the hearts of Joette's parents Mr. and Mrs. Zehrung. I know them and they are good folks. She has been ill now for some time. As for Sheldon, well he and Mr. eng Monson his dad had gone to the LCG hq to have it out with the LCG head ministers and "make some changes around here" as one of their supporters put it. Well when that meeting was over we had Eng Monson out of LCG and with Mr. Bryce's Enduring Church Of God. And Sheldon was literally bribed to remain in LCG with a good pay hike and a fat bonus. And Sheldon and Eng were very suddenly not on speaking terms, although that was fixed up somewhat just before Eng's death. Sure. Sheldon was bribed and so he suddenly and conveniently stoodd down, and Eng stuck to his guns for what that was worth. Sheldon also didn't mind at all being on the LCG's council of elders for years and having power and influence in the church. Sheldon believed while in LCG that he could have no interaction and fellowship with believers in other church groups. even when he was in hospital several years ago and we thought that he might thaw out he did not change. Sheldon Monson had been butting heads with Mr. Weston for years before he went and set up his own church corporation. So now I wonder if he can have fellowship with anyone outside of his group. So he had mixed with us a day or two before he left LCG, but not after that? What changed exactly? If I were looking to commit to a COG, based on these things alone it could not be COGAS
Man is eating well. To fast or not to fast.
church of monson assembly
interested in seeing what he said.i cant find it. do you mind linking that?
Not that we could compare bad with worse and somehow come up with good, but rival miscreants usually do that to each other. So, why don't we bring it to the surface. Who is better, and who is worse? Shelly or Bobby? Shelly sounds as if he is more skilled at bringing people along with him.
BOBBY IS FAR WORSE, HE CLAIMS HES A PROPHET, PLUS HE ALLOWS WITCHCRAFT AND WITCHDOCTORS, PLUS RAMPANT SEXUAL SINS AND MONEY SKIMMING CORRUPTION, AND OTHER ABUSES BY HIS TOP AFRICAN WITCHDOCTORS, FALSE MINISTERS
1 CORINTHIANS
3 For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?
4 For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?
5 Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man?
6 I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.
7 So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.
Shame on you all.
To you all UCG secret two faced lot on here. Yes I'm talking to you all. Destroying a church in your 60s, 70s and 80s. Who do you all think you are ? A religious SAS? History won't be so kind to you, as you may think.
Hypocrites of all hypocrites.
More Ronald Mac Donalds than Ronald Dart.
The money will go nowhere. You'll get older and older. Fighting and slaughtering will it bring you peace? I don't think so. You'll all grow bitter with each other as the targets grow less and less after the initial joy of slaughter has subsided.
Why did you not stay with Joseph Tkach in the first place ? Why pretend and go into UCG. All the wars you lot stirred up. All the nit picking of others, all the stress and heartache not enough water at feast sites...not running things like you wanted... yet all along you lot was bacon munching hypocrites who hated every Holy day and hated every believer.
I thank God I grew up listening to Ron Dart preach Jesus Christ and not you two-faced lot.
May God the Father and Jesus Christ protect his people in the weeks and months ahead.
Oh no! Somebody be mad!!!!!!!!!! Stop taking yourself so seriously; no one else does.
I believe that someone is suffering from a deep inner sickness. Sounds to me as if the writer knows of some disgruntled people in the UCG underground, and is assuming that they must be some of the key people here at the leading Armstrongism accountablility site!
The fact is, people do strange things! Some of the people who held on to the original Armstrong doctines remained in the Tkach era WCG, professing faith that God would clean "His" church up.
If you left WCG when UCG was being birthed, but now believe that the people who formed UCG were in error, you would not stick around to sabotage it. What a waste of time. So much easier just to find a local church in your community that teaches classic Christianity!
Hmm, odd, I was never a member of the UCG. Nice try though. Dude needs to get a clue, not everyone here is or was a part of the UCG.
What got me was HWAs reaction to members leaving his church and joining a splinter. His only response was that these groups had no work or meaningful work. So he only saw his members as galley slaves. That members were leaving and joining splinters to avoid being eaten alive by their minister/s and their boot lickers didn't register with him. He knew did this, but chose to blame the victims instead.
A heartless man.
I believe someone is a liar.
It’s kind of pathetic that a legalistic church that complains that nobody in the world keeps the 10 Commandments except for them is out there stealing people’s money.
The COGs have set themselves up as "god" to receive tithes. After all 1st and 3rd tithe, touted on Monson's website, is to go to "god", right! And don't you know a "3rd tithe" means there's a "1st tithe"?? But: tithes are not designated that way in scripture; there's no command ever to tithe on monetary income; the change in the law (Heb 7:12) was its removal, not a rewrite and reversion back to a non-existent HWA made up tithing law that Jacob and Abraham supposedly obeyed. Where can I read that law? Can't.
I'd like to hear from a member of Sheldon Monson's cogas group about what is up here. Anyone?
Just FYI, you can report reasonable suspicion of fraud to the IRS at eoclass@irs.gov
Well, it might actually reinvigorate rock n roll if someome were to develop the electric lyre, and to go viral with some Richie Blackmore Mixolydian scales!
Monson has no humility, and anything Disney is now so associated with corruption that he is obviously so much not Christian, he is an embarrassment to the church.
I followed COGA for a while online, and heard from some members that the ministers were bullying members, especially women, and so stopped watching their services.
He also had a heart attack a few years ago. One of his ministers, Jason Fritts, is very athletic and healthy by comparison. Sheldon should get serious about treating the temple of God correctly, i.e. his body, if he is a Christian.
Just why are so many comments here by "Anonymous"? Why can't people either log into Google or else just choose a username for themselves to use here? We don't care who you really are, but it makes it easier to distinguish who wrote what if you all have usernames.
Avoura, then you can call me Freedom Flapper.
If you want to do call and response on a specific topic, you can pick a temporary name to which others can respond. Not everyone can distinguish literary styles, and people tend to imitate the strong ones. Next day or topic, establish a new and thought-provoking identity. This is an example of how it can be done!
Avoura, one of the UCG hypocrites trying the repeated line of desperation..."oh you can't be anonymous"......wanting a specific name to zone in on... to make life easier for them.
The anonymous name is offered for a reason.
Who is a UCG hypocrite? I am not a member of UCG, if that's what you were insinuating.
Anyone can post under any name, it's easy. But if everyone uses the same name, it gets confusing.
Agreed
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