Samuel Kitchen is on a roll!
Now the United Church of God was formed using a new regional structure of ministry, that was installed into the Worldwide Church of God by Victor Kubik and Joe Tkach Jr in 1993!Layer in 1995, Victor and his wife Bev, contacted those Regional ministers, and eventually gathered them in Indianapolis Indiana, for a conference, and there they formed a new church! They “separated themselves”, which is self ordination, and created a new power structure!Now they all had ordinations from the Worldwide Church of God. No apostate could invalidate those credentials! Only a true minister in leadership authority could unbind their credentials! So Tkach firing a minister for holding true, does not invalidate that minister!But how, this new power bloc, used Aaron Dean as a guinea pig, and made him the first ordained minister of the United Church of God!Victor Kubik wrote that the purpose of creating the United Church of God, was to restrict and block a concentration of authority to one man. They created a democratic form of government for the purpose of restriction and suppression!The man they wanted to get first? Aaron Dean.Now Aaron Dean, was given the job of JUDGING THE HOUSE. Mr Armstrong made him promise he’d stand up and warn Tkach and the ministry of any departures from Christ!Now to judge his superiors meant, he had a seat of authority over Tkach!He was also told by Mr Armstrong that “God wants you Aaron” when he was evaluated to be the next Pastor General.When Tkach Sr wanted Aaron Dean to give sermons on how Mr Armstrong trained him(Tkach) and how he(Tkach) is an apostle, Mr Dean refused and told Tkach why it was wrong! He got fired and shuffled away from the Advisory Council of Elders!Then, this power bloc created by Joe Jr and Victor Kubik, was installed in 1993.It created more division! And it failed!And so Victor Kubik contacted those regional ministers, and created the United Church of God!Then they placed restrictions, organizational chains, on Aaron Dean, using the wrongs of Tkachism to say there was nothing to go back to!They started saying the Worldwide Church of God is dead, build us something new Aaron!Aaron the brother of Moses, feared the people, when they thought Moses died up in Sinai! He helped them build their golden calf. But what a man of God! He repented!Aaron Dean, I do not have to worry about. He appears to me, to be a man who will repent quickly when he understands his sin.But the UCG is a candlestick, created against Aaron Dean. And when He repents, the membership of that church can repent too. Some will not, and will be separate as the UCG and go through the Great Tribulation! Their era is about repenting and supporting God’s Witnesses! Those who repent before the tribulation will be members of the Worldwide Church of God!Those who repent during the Tribulation will become members of the Worldwide Church of God but without protection! Martyrdom will ensue them.So like Peter in Antioch when he separated with the divided portion, because of the false doctrines that came by others, Aaron Dean is seen with the UCG and not the Worldwide Church of God! He is responsible because he hasn’t stood up yet!Now Jesus Christ knows who needs what! Peter when he was separated, needed Paul. So Paul became the bad guy and rebuked Peter publicly!I’m not a minister. I haven’t been ordained.As a laymember, I simply warn a brother in Christ out of love. And as a laymember I support Jesus Christ and His Church.Jesus Christ is restoring the Worldwide Church of God!I’m going to be there in Jerusalem at this year’s Feast of Tabernacles. So are other brethren! All of those supporting Jesus Christ and desiring to lift up His Olive Branches, the Two Witnesses!The UCG was created to restrict Aaron Dean. So God calls on them to repent of this wrong attitude against one man rule, against the government of God!(Rev. 3:14-21), so that Christ may use them.No other group was created with direct connection to one of the two witnesses! There is only ONE TRUE CHURCH! And the Two Witnesses are two candlesticks.The Worldwide Church of God is assembling in Jerusalem at the Feast!I’m going to keep Trumpets, Atonement, and the Feast to support God’s Work. What about you? You got a better place to go?
19 comments:
If anything was “created” to keep “the church” from reuniting it’s the god complex of those calling themselves ministers.
Never understood the 'heir in waiting' propaganda that surrounds Aaron Dean. Although Kitchen is a comedian and, he doesn't know it, there are those in UCG who think Aaron Dean is God's gift for reuniting the Churches of God.
My goodness. Just when you thought politicians had reached the bottom of the barrel, and embraced lunacy, in steps this ‘gem’.
Any relatively sane (what ever that is ) person reading this would run a country mile from the Armstrong movement. We are all ‘witnesses’ to the ongoing destruction of this movement and there are more than ‘two witnesses’ watching this unraveling out there. I remember a young girl asking her parents why humanity is so silly. The reply was ‘we are all mad’. Indeed.
There is always somebody who will rise up to defend snd revive a total mess of steaming $hit that never should have existed in the first place!
Oh, man! The Kitchens, Dave Pack, Bob Thiel, Jon Brisby, Doug Winnail, Jerry Weston,? What a hoot! They make me laugh almost as much as a Jack Vale Pooter Video filmed in Wallmart!
If I’m on a roll, call me butter.
If this movement was from God, why is it in shambles? Why isn’t it growing and producing fruit?
If Samuel is on a roll, it must be a croissant. Flaky and puffed up.
Anon, Monday, May 19, 2025 at 11:20:02 AM PDT, wrote:
"Never understood the 'heir in waiting' propaganda that surrounds Aaron Dean. Although Kitchen is a comedian and, he doesn't know it, there are those in UCG who think Aaron Dean is God's gift for reuniting the Churches of God."
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And there are those in UCG who think John Elliott may be "God's gift" for something, although human beings voted for John Elliott to replace Rick Shabi.
Where really was Aaron Dean in all of their voting, something HWA did not, to my knowledge, ever encourage?
Time will tell...
John
Samuel Kitchen, on a "roll," wrote, in part:
"...in 1995, Victor and his wife Bev, contacted those Regional ministers, and eventually gathered them in Indianapolis Indiana, for a conference, and there they formed a new church! They “separated themselves”, which is self ordination, and created a new power structure!
Now they all had ordinations from the Worldwide Church of God. No apostate could invalidate those credentials! Only a true minister in leadership authority could unbind their credentials! So Tkach firing a minister for holding true, does not invalidate that minister!
But how, this new power bloc, used Aaron Dean as a guinea pig, and made him the first ordained minister of the United Church of God!
Victor Kubik wrote that the purpose of creating the United Church of God, was to restrict and block a concentration of authority to one man. ..."
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Self-ordination! What's that?
And "...Now they all had ordinations from the Worldwide Church of God. No apostate could invalidate those credentials! ..."
What's that?
When one leaves the WCG organization, one loses their ordination credentials. That was true under HWA, and it was also true under JWT Sr. as well. Why? Those who were separated no longer were serving in that organization.
A minister does not just go from one religious organization into another organization and retain their ministerial credentials. Doesn't even the United Ass. have some committee that has to provide approval of something like that? It's not automatic. Even United doesn't believe that one retains their credentials; otherwise, why have some approving committee?
Self-ordination? And Aaron Dean being: "...the first ordained minister of the United Church of God?" How so? What about the likes of Victor Kubik? Frank's? McNair? Gerald Waterhouse? Jim Franks?...etc.?
Time will tell...
John
Of course they do "John". Dean most probably a red herring in the vote to keep others out. They never expected Shabi to win three years ago so made sure Elliott won.
Look at this blog not one post on UCG huge news of a change of President. Not one post on President Elliott first sermon. Nothing only tumbleweed on mildly mocking the red herring Dean with Ai mock ups.
Samuel, you mis-spelled "bitter."
Three bad translations......
1. "Feasts" - Lev 23:2. Should be "fixed times" (moeds) which include the 3 feasts of Ex 23, the weekly sabbath, and the annual sabbaths in the 7th month.
2. "Change" - Heb 7:12b. Should be "removing" or "disestablishment" of the law. The law was not rewritten, did not revert to a previous law.
3. "Fully come" - Acts 2:1. Should be "in the completing of the day of Pentecost", after Jesus ascended earlier that day, after Thomas saw Jesus through 40 days.
That's because the UCG ministers here are part of the cabal that is not happy with Dean or Elliot.
Red Herring comment 11:13.
Bingo
Sabes que? Amplification can continue to the point where it breaks into distortion. We realize this from music. "House of the Rising Sun" provides an example. Originally a folk song, it was played on an acoustic guitar. The Animals used amplified instruments, played without distortion. Then came Frijid Pink's version, distorted, but in a musically pleasing way. I never did hear a punk version of this song, but one can only imagine what Rob Zombie, or a group like Korn might have done with it. Bleah!
I believe the spiritual descendents of the Armstrong COGs have amplified the movement to the point of displeasing distortion. Nothing they say or do these days nourishes the soul. It's gone beyond way the wah wah pedal or fuzz box, Tube Screamer, or even Dave Davies' green amp on which he slit the speaker cone.
Whoever's in charge of the segments of a now mercurial movement is really not going to make any substantial difference. He's not going to be able to get past the expired time and date stamp. Changing the time and date stamp on sour milk does not reverse spoilage.
Samuel Kitchen could have used a few exclamation marks!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nearly every paragraph ends in one. I am sure psychiatrists have something useful to say about that.
Ya mean like overcompensation? Bullyism? Talkin' to himself?
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