Monday, October 17, 2011

The Clergy Project









Dennis Diehl - EzineArticles Expert AuthorPeople change as well the information, stories, understandings, so called facts, ideas and truths we all were given from others in our youth.
  


Every wedding I ever performed, whether I thought the couple had much of a chance or not, was an exercise in forcing them to promise they would never change in their views towards life or each other, and then I failed to inform them everything all around them, from this moment on will start to change .  The reason I didn't tell them that was that I did not understand that myself at the time.  You know, "Jesus Christ, the same yesterday, today and tomorrow," along with the church and it's story kind of thing.


Ministry is a somewhat unique calling.  From experience, the membership totally expects the minister to never change and always tell the same old old story they all think they love so well.  They all too often expect him/her to be and do everything they have no personal intention of ever being or doing as well.  I know churches from both sides of the altar so to speak and people are just plain people.  In fact, one lesson from all this myself is that people change very little in life no matter what the story.  

The world of theology is huge. Most in ministry attend the school of their 
denominational choice and, of course, get the spin on the Bible and the "truth" plainly visible to them in their perspectives.  Others outside that experience are less than true.  In most fundamentalist schools it truly becomes a case of "we are right and you are of your father the Devil."  Most liberal seminaries are called liberal because they actually study the bigger picture of theology and admit to it's messy nature. 

But life unfolds. None of us get the truth of anything from birth into it.  It truly is "the glory of a king to search out a matter."  The problem is that as a man or women given to teaching theological truth as they understand it also accumulates more and more knowledge, experience, disasters, pain and life realities along the way. Most of life unfolding will eventually challenge anyone's beliefs so dearly gotten in their youth.  
One reads more and listens to more and eventually comes to hold different conclusions about those once cherished beliefs.  Remember, beliefs are not truth.  There truly are mere beliefs.

And so along with members of churches, ministers realize they need to move on and perhaps either regret the choice in the first place, or at least realize they can't teach what they no longer believe and need out.

Let me be blunt.  On this site and with the experience most here have had, the reactions to or the advice given to such men and women in this life situation are usually along the lines of:


"The bastards should quit now and stop stealing their paychecks"


"The liars deserve what they get."
"The moment you stop believing, you should move out of your house, stop eating the food "they" provide for you by giving you a paycheck, tell your family they can go swim for it and get your job at Walmart you son of a bitch."


I can't help you if that's the best you can come up with in your mind on how a man or woman who probably made a lot of personal sacrifices and has a story on how they came to ministry themselves, should handle this dilemma in their maturing lives.  However, I do expect these kinds of comments and will attribute them to painbodies trying to get even  :)  I know many CURRENT COG minister and member types who struggle with this dilemma and stay.  I know many COG members who "keep the Feast," by going to nice places each Fall but never to any services.  Yet they painly tell their friends and bosses, "I have to keep the Feast."



For decades, ministers have told me, "You are ahead of your time and you say what I only think!"   I can't help that but do know the conflict of it all.  I imagine most critical thinking Christians of all denominations understand this concept. 

The Clergy project, sponsored by the Freedom From Religion is an organization that helps clergy, most highly educated at the best schools and not booklet educated Apostles, Watchers and Witnesses, is the work of Dan Barker, former Evangelical Pastor and Author of Losing Faith in Faith.    Most of these pastors could tie the average person up in knots of the history of the Bible and the contradictory messages it contains.  The Clergy Project is a compassionate and balanced way for men and women of former faith to move on with as little collateral damage as possible.  Many times the damage is unavoidable and the lives of mates, children and extended are forever changed as well.  

I serve in the capacity of "one who knows'' to this project and find it all very familiar with only the names and organizations changing.  

Life is a journey and the Clergy Project is a way station along the way for men and women of former faith who finally had to face the facts and stop not seeing what they do see.  It's a painful journey and like a church member who can just not choose to show up the next week while their lives keep in full step, liberating sometime after the "No one told me this when I was in Seminary" hits the fan. 

The Clergy project is a very compassionate, balanced and extremely helpful endeavor and I honor them in this. I am pleased to be a small part of it. I wish I had had something like this in my own transitions instead of just getting thrown under the bus by my own studies and denomination and left in the gutter with, "just call the business office and they can help you with your questions about severance," or as the head of the WCG "Reconciliation Dept" said,  "We wish you the best of luck and will pray for you."   Or did they say "be warmed and be filled,"   I forget...





The Clergy Project is a confidential online community for active and former clergy who do not hold the supernatural beliefs of their religious traditions. The Clergy Project launched on March 21st, 2011. 

Currently, the community's nearly 100 members use it to network and discuss what it's like being an unbelieving leader in a religious community. The Clergy Project’s goal is to support members as they move beyond faith. Members freely discuss issues related to their transition from believer to unbeliever including:
  • Wrestling with intellectual, ethical, philosophical and theological issues
  • Coping with cognitive dissonance
  • Addressing feelings of being stuck and fearing the future
  • Looking for new careers
  • Telling their families
  • Sharing useful resources
  • Living as a nonbeliever with religious spouses and family
  • Using humor to soften the pain
  • Finding a way out of the ministry
  • Adjusting to life after the ministry


“We know there must be thousands of clergy out there who have secretly abandoned their faith but have nowhere to turn,” says Dan Barker, a former evangelical preacher who “lost faith in faith” after 19 years of preaching the gospel. “Now they do have a place to meet, a true sanctuary, a congregation of those of us who have replaced faith and dogma with reason and human well-being.” 


Dennis C. Diehl

DenniscDiehl@aol.com

Apostle Malm Predicts War With Iran





While Prophet Thiel and Spanky are worried about China and Germany, Apostle Malm is worried about Iran and has predicted that the United States and Europe will soon wage war with Iran.  Here is the scenario that Apostle Malm laid out today. The war mentally has permeated Armstrongism from it's very start to this day.

THE FIGHT FOR IRAN
The battle for Iran could unfold in the following manner.  This is what the US forces have trained for, the enemy may have somewhat to say.

1)   A mass bombing by heavy bombers from the US, Europe and Diego Garcia take out most of the missile fields,  main Revolutionary Guards bases and air force.

2)   Continued air attacks from the new bases surrounding Iran and by sea; support ground operations and keep up the pressure by destroying the munitions and military strength of the nation.

3)   US Marine’s move to take key coastal areas in a bid to prevent the closure of the Persian Gulf to shipping and to safeguard naval vessels.



4) Most of  the US army now being rushed to the region will end up in Kuwait where they will access their prepositioned weapons and prepare to move into Khuzestan province.  The CIA has been working hard to destabilize that province for years now and the army will be backing an Arab revolutionary movement already in place. The main Iranian force in the province is the Revolutionary Guard, as many of Iran’s Military leaders are US educated and not really trusted with this vital area.
The First Armored Brigade activated 7 March 1951 at Fort Hood, Texas is the unit to spearhead the attack on Khuzetstan and Iran along with the 173rd Airborne based in Vincensa Italy.

5)   Once the Revolutionary Guard has been demolished, the army may move to establish order and sue for peace; the “Green Path” party can then make its move with mass demonstrations, free from molestation by the Revolutionary Guard security forces.  Presently elections are scheduled for March in Iran.

Which Philosopher Do You Identify With?


Which Philosopher Do You Identify With?
(Herbert Armstrong does not count)
Most COG members have no idea who the great philosophers of the world are/were or what they thought.  Their way of interpreting things in the world around them have an impact on how we think today, in spite of the baloney the COG has denigrate them with over the years.

Take this test and see which philosopher you most identify with:


Which famous philosopher do you most agree with? SelectSmart.com Selector Quiz



These are my results: