Exposing the underbelly of Armstrongism in all of its wacky glory! Nothing you read here is made up. What you read here is the up to date face of Herbert W Armstrong's legacy. It's the gritty and dirty behind the scenes look at Armstrongism as you have never seen it before!
With all the new crazy self-appointed Chief Overseers, Apostles, Prophets, Pharisees, legalists, and outright liars leading various Churches of God today, it is important to hold these agents of deception accountable.
Herbert Armstrong's Tangled Web of Corrupt Leaders
For many decades, we have had it ground in our psyche that the Church of God had/has a better way of believing and doing things. We had the answer to everything and knew that there was a world coming that would bring peace and harmony for at least 800-900 years, and then it was all going to fall apart again. Evil and damnation would be unleashed again. What a cruel god!
Yet, despite having a grand vision of millennial peace as our goal, the Church of God has always found the bad in the world and emphasized it in everything they preached and wrote about. Everything is evil and they can't wait for their god to come and smite all the evildoers and make the world into what they think it should look like.
This is how Gerald Weston starts every weekly update to his members. Something bad is always happening. Evil is lurking in the air ready to devour the loyal church members. This was his update on the 18th. He can't even find joy in Passover!
Passover and Unleavened Bread are now upon us. How many more Passovers will we have before Christ returns? The events of the last four years are sobering—a pandemic with all the disruption it brought, inflation, violent crime and demonstrations in our streets, weather upsets of historical and “of biblical proportions” in various places around the world, illegal immigration, wars in Europe and the Middle East. However, there is a positive to all that we see happening. “Now when these things begin to happen, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near” (Luke 21:28). Some among us are going through severe trials and we cannot minimize how difficult that is for those individuals affected, including family members, but we must never take our eyes off the big picture. God called us and gave His Son on our behalf, and Jesus willingly suffered for us that we might be healed and that through His indwelling Spirit we might have eternal life. May we never forget Paul’s inspired words: “For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us” (Romans 8:18). I wish all of you a profitable and joyous Passover and Feast of Unleavened Bread!—Gerald Weston
Compare Gerald Weston's negativity to an article below from Ralph Woodrow. You remember Woodrow, don't you? He wrote the fourth supplemental "sacred scriptures" that most COG members believed fervently in, until the horror of horrors, he refuted it all.
In the Church of God hierarchy of official doctrine setting works, we had the Bible, US and BC In Prophecy, Mystery of the Ages, Hislop's The Two Babylons, and finally Woodrow's Babylon Mystery Religion. Woodrow's works were so popular in Armstrongism that he even started quoting some of our teachings to back up his works.
Then, in a shocking twist of fate for Armstrongism, he refuted his Babylon Mystery Religion book in 1997, right amid the time period the Worldwide Church of God was refuting many of their long-held erroneous teachings.
The Babylon Connection? shows that the claims about Babylonian origins often lack connection,
takes a closer look at the oft-quoted The Two Babylons by Alexander Hislop,
and provides some much needed clarification on this subject.
Was Nimrod a deformed, ugly black man, married to Semiramis,
a beautiful white woman with blue eyes and blond hair?
Was Semiramis the originator of Soprano singing and priestly celibacy?
Was she the mother of Tammuz?
Is the cross a symbol of Tammuz?
Are round communion wafers sun-symbols?
Are candles, black clergy garments, the letters I.H.S., the fish symbol, halos,
and church steeples of pagan origin?
Does the Pope wear a crown with 666 on it?
Was the papal mitre copied from the fishhead of Dagon?
Does the Book of Revelation describe the Roman Catholic Church as "Mystery Babylon"?
This sudden change of belief sent many in COGland into a frenzy. It was further proof that Satan was hellbent on destroying the church.
Fast forward to today when I was surprised to see he has teamed up with Greg Albrecht and serves on the Board of Directors for Plain Truth Ministries. Some will see this as further proof that Satan is at work in the church...c'est la vie.
There are some who tell us in all seriousness that “everything in the world is getting worse and worse!” It seems popular, even in some pulpits, to talk about how bad everything is getting—“and getting worse all the time!” But the evidence is overwhelming that MANY things are better than they have ever been, especially in countries that enjoy the blessings of civilization.
This is not to say there is not a lot of evil in the world. Many things are not as they should be. Nevertheless, progress has been made in the right direction. In harmony with Philippians 4:8, “... think on things of good report”—let’s consider some of the GOOD things God has blessed us with and for which we should be thankful.
Woodrow goes on to discuss advances in travel and technology and how there is progress in the right direction.
He then states:
Was the world or this country better in the days of child labor? Was it better in the days of slavery? Was it better when travel was in covered wagons? Was it better when women could not vote or own property? Was it better when lights burned coal oil? Conditions may not be as they should, but on the whole, many have better food, better clothing, better housing, better health care, better education, better working conditions, better pay and better transportation than in the past.
Today there are organizations to encourage clean, wholesome activities for boys and girls; organizations to aid the blind, the handicapped, the underprivileged, the elderly; organizations to prevent cruelty to animals and provide shelter. Progress is being made in Alzheimer’s research. Such things speak of kindness and progress in the right direction.
Despite all the “good things” the Lord has allowed us to enjoy in this day, there are those who suppose things are getting worse all the time. While the Bible does say that “evil men and impostors will grow worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived” (2 Timothy 3:13), this may simply refer to the fact that one sin leads to another sin; one lie leads to another lie; those who head in the wrong direction get further and further away from Jesus and the gospel.
“But the path of the just is like the shining sun, that shines ever brighter unto the perfect day” (Proverbs 4:18). Where sin abounds, grace shall much more abound (Romans 5:20). Let people of faith everywhere look on the bright side, thankful for the progress that has been made! Is there evil in the world? Yes! No doubt about it. But while “everything” is not as it should be, we are BLESSED in many ways!
Woodrow certainly has a better outlook on life than do so many of the miserable professional complainers making up the leadership of the Church of God today. It is no wonder so many in the Church of God today are depressed. Their very own leaders are the cause of this!
When will the church be people of faith? Having a grounded faith so joyful they revel in the joy that grace brings and are thankful for all the beautiful and good things in this world?
We have known for decades that Church of God members easily fall for most conspiracy theories and off-the-wall teachings by lunatic self-appointed ministers and other false teachers.
One thing that has always surprised me is how many COG folk believe the earth is flat. The Obedient Church of God is one of those crazy groups.
Re: Why there are no photos of the edge of the earth.
*** All the space photos of the earth that you see are fake. They will not even let the Hubble Telecsope ever to point toward the earth. They won’t even try, and make the phony excuse that the earth is spinning too fast. But they say that they can make phony pictures of the 1000 mile per hour spinning earth from a space ship right beside the Hubble.
And they never point the Hubble Telescope to point back to the earth, because they hide the flat earth from the public every way they can. They could simply turn down the magnification of the Hubble digitally to photograph the earth, and still take microsecond shots of the earth because they claim it is spinning, but they refuse to, so they can hide the FACT that the earth is flat.
how come we never got to see the earth on edge?
You are FORBIDDEN to go to the edge.
They forbid you to go to the edge.
And because the balloon is near the Northern center of the earth, "NOT" outside of the flat earth. You are NOT allowed to fly in a plane or a balloon to the edge of the earth, or you will be shot down and put in prison if you are still alive.
And even if you wanted to go to Antarctica and cross over to the edge of the earth, they do not allow anyone to travel throughout across Antarctica.
You will be locked up if you try to travel to the edge past the little settlements on the Coasts of Antarctica.
AND
They NEVER allow you to fly past the beginning Coasts of Antarctica.
They NEVER allow you to fly to the OUTSIDE EDGE, PAST THE COASTS of Antarctica.
They do not let you to fly over Antarctica just like they do not allow the Hubble telescope to ever point at the moon to see the US flag that was NEVER placed on the moon because they never went to the moon. Stanley Kubrick made all the PHONY moon landing films.
All pictures of a round earth are fake.
One thing we all seem to forget is that Armstrongism has produced some of the greatest minds on earth today! The amazing intellect of some COG members is astounding!
It has been some time since I have heard anything from the Obedient Church of God. They almost make Bob Thiel look normal.
There is nothing normal about this group, in fact, they are crazier than Thiel, Pack, Flurry, and Weinland combined!
Notice their calendar for April 2024 above and look at April 23. Apparently, you were supposed to eat Bread, lamb, horseradish and drink wine 10 minutes before sundown on that day. After all, the Israelites hastily left Egypt in 10 minutes and so shouldn't you!
For the next several days, you must examine "your year's dedication". All that is good if you survive the attack on the U.S. and Canada that might be happening.
The problem exists that this only works IF you start keeping these days on the CORRECT day! Only the Obedient Church of God knows teh correct day. Eat your heart out Bob Thiel! Everyone knows more than you do. Ha! Ha!
They have an absolute conniption over the International Dateline. They claim COG ministers who use the IDL to calculate make members work on the Sabbath, particularly in Australia and New Zealand.
They do go on to make a rather accurate statement about today's Church of God ministry and leaders.
That pretty much sums up the current ministry and leadership of the COG. God has vomited them out.
They have a stern warning to all disobedient Church of God ministers and leaders:
Basics To “Do”:
Christianity 101
If “YOU” want to Be a Christian
you “MUST”
walk in the footsteps of Jesus/Yeshua
To do this you “MUST” LIVE
“THE WAY”
= Live as Jesus and all the Disciples, and Paul did,
that Jesus/Yeshua set the Example of
How To Live
The following check list is of Christianity Basics of
what Jesus did
= Christian Checklist “Simplified” for you Do and Do not
1.) Do use Crescent Moons to get God’s “TIME” of Worship right, as the starting point.
2.) Then set/start the New Year Abib 1 on the CORRECT day which is at the 1st Crescent .
3.) Count to the 15th to celebrate Passover, (not the same as The Last Supper).
4.) Have 1 minute of silence “after” you take the Bread, and after you take the Wine.
5.) Eat the Passover main meal “in Haste”= not a leisurely dinner.
6.) Eat the Passover main meal standing, with a walking stick/staff, and traveling clothes on.
7.) Do not leave the Passover Seder until daybreak. Stay up, “Watch and Pray”.
8.) Burn any leftover food from the Passover elements, and Passover Supper.
9.) Start the Pentecost count from the 1st Holy Day inside the 7 days of Unleavened Bread. 10.) Count the 49 days +1 .
11.) Use the visible Crescent Moon to start each month.
12.) Only sight the Crescent Moon with the naked eye.
13.) Only sight the Crescent Moon from Jerusalem.
14.) Set “ALL” your Holy Day counts using only the Crescent Moon.
15.) Celebrate “ALL” the 7 Feasts of The Lord.
16.) Dwell temporarily outside your home for 7 days during The Feast of Tabernacles/Huts.
17.) Recognize that there are 3 Pilgrimage Feasts per year. Go to Headquarters (if able) on Passover/Unleavened Bread, Pentecost, & Tabernacles.
18.) Know the approximate time of Christ return is 5777/2017-2018.
19.) Stand up when you sing Hymns to God.
20.) Face the North Heavens, or to Jerusalem (if possible) when singing praises to God. 21.) Wear your best clothes, shoes shined, bathed and clean undergarments before God.
The Gate/Road is Straight and Narrow, and there be “few” that find it . Mat 7:14
One of the sad legacies of Armstrongism was the oftentimes violent methods of corporal punishment used upon church children and teens. The Mt Pocono Feast site in its early years almost was shut down because of the beating of children. Members of the public who came to check out the weird church heard and witnessed parents beating their kids in the official Spanking Tent.
The minister we had in Cincinnati, Ohio (Carn Catherwood) said that a child must get 20 hard swats with a thick paddle and that he expected to hear them crying afterward. He also instructed the local Spokesman Club to sell 1-inch thick paddles with holes drilled in it to cut down wind resistance. They did this as a fundraiser. Imagine raising money off beating children!
Samuel Martin. some of the late Earnest Martin has been on a decades-long crusade to end corporal punishment of children.
STRATEGIES TO EMPOWER CHRISTIAN FAMILIES CONCERNING ENDING THE CORPORAL PUNISHMENT OF CHILDREN:
DEALING WITH OPPOSITION FROM SPOUSES AND EXTENDED FAMILIES CONCERNING THE SUBJECT OF SPANKING CHILDREN
The subject of corporal punishment (spanking/smacking) is one which causes serious challenges in families especially when one spouse is in favor of spanking/smacking, while the other is not.
This issue creates serious tension between husbands and wives and in extended families and communities who pressure parents to spank/smack their children.
Christian families who choose not to spank may face loneliness, isolation and serious opposition to their decision to pursue peaceful parenting.
In some families, where spanking/smacking has been taking place for generations, the choice not to spank/smack by one of the parents may create situations in a marriage where major tension exists surrounding the subject of spanking/smacking.
This research study seeks to empower Christian spouses who have taken the often difficult decision not to spank/smack to provide them with simple Bible based tools to engage their spouses, extended families and communities thoughtfully concerning this most difficult subject.
This research study delves into God's Word in a deep but practical way to provide those in favor of peaceful parenting with Bible based teachings to help them engage with those around them who still believe in spanking/smacking.
This research study is based on almost 20 years of feedback that the author has received from scores of Christian families who have decided on a new path for their parenting journey that seeks to leave the experience of spanking/smacking behind.
The research study provides practical specific Bible based information to help Christian families engage the subject of spanking/smacking in a mature and thoughtful way with the goal of growing peace and love in our homes.
The Armstrong Churches of God, like the Christian Pharisees of the First Century, have always taught that Gentile Christians are obligated to obey some of the precepts of Torah. A few days ago, on Banned by HWA, Scout wrote a post entitled Notes on the Jerusalem Council in Acts 15. In it, he made clear that the WHOLE Church (including the Jewish part of it) decided that believers would NOT be required to adhere to the tenets of the Old Covenant - Torah. Scout went on to make the point that this did NOT mean that the Church was discarding Torah, just that it wasn't a pathway to salvation under the New Covenant. Armstrongists, however, insist that Christians can lose their salvation by failing to observe some of the laws of Torah (like those related to Sabbaths and Holy Days).
In my previous post on this topic (Was Torah for Everyone?), I said that "what is offered here is only a FRACTION of the many passages contained in Torah which make very clear that Torah was intended for the people of Israel." In making that statement, I was on very solid ground. To demonstrate the truth of that statement, and because it is so important for Christians to understand that we are operating under a different iteration of God's Law, I have decided to include a few more of the Scriptures which make very clear that Torah was intended for the people of Israel.
In the book of Leviticus, we read that God told the Israelites that he had separated them from the other peoples of the earth (Leviticus 20:24, 26). In the original Hebrew, the sense is that they were severed from other nations and people. They were to be clearly different from other peoples, and it wasn't just male circumcision which delineated that difference. The Sabbath was also a sign between them and God which distinguished them from all other people (Exodus 31:13, 17). Moreover, there were a number of other things that were to distinguish them from the Gentile nations surrounding them. For instance, in the book of Deuteronomy, we read: "You are the sons of the Lord your God. You shall not cut yourselves or make any baldness on your foreheads for the dead. For you are a people holy to the Lord your God, and the Lord has chosen you to be a people for his treasured possession, out of all the peoples who are on the face of the earth. You shall not eat any abomination. These are the animals you may eat: the ox, the sheep, the goat, the deer, the gazelle, the roebuck, the wild goat, the ibex, the antelope, and the mountain sheep. Every animal that parts the hoof and has the hoof cloven in two and chews the cud, among the animals, you may eat." (Deuteronomy 14:1-6, ESV) There were even regulations about how they were to cut their hair, and what kinds of fabrics they were to wear! All of these things distinguished them from the Gentile nations.
Over and over again, the commandments of Torah were addressed to the children of Israel and reiterated throughout that these instructions were intended to distinguish them from the nations which surrounded them. Near the end of the book of Leviticus, we read: "These are the statutes and rules and laws that the Lord made between himself and the people of Israel through Moses on Mount Sinai." (Leviticus 26:46, ESV) Indeed, later, in the book of Deuteronomy, we read: "When you come into the land that the Lord your God is giving you, you shall not learn to follow the abominable practices of those nations. There shall not be found among you anyone who burns his son or his daughter as an offering, anyone who practices divination or tells fortunes or interprets omens, or a sorcerer or a charmer or a medium or a necromancer or one who inquires of the dead, for whoever does these things is an abomination to the Lord. And because of these abominations the Lord your God is driving them out before you. You shall be blameless before the Lord your God, for these nations, which you are about to dispossess, listen to fortune-tellers and to diviners. But as for you, the Lord your God has not allowed you to do this." (Deuteronomy 18:9-14, ESV) Clearly, God intended through Torah for the Israelites to be different from the Gentile peoples which they were displacing (and would be surrounded by) in every aspect of their lives!
Hence, once again, the Armstrongist narrative about Torah does NOT fit. We see that God clearly intended this iteration of his law for the people of Israel. Indeed, we have seen that the commandments of Torah were meant to distinguish them from the other peoples of the world. Armstrongists love to point out that Christ and his disciples kept Torah, but they completely ignore the fact that they were ALL Jews! Paul was also a devout Jew. Moreover, it was necessary that Christ observe the commandments of Torah to fulfill the Law and make his sacrifice of himself efficacious for securing our salvation! The PLAIN TRUTH is that Torah was never intended for Gentiles, or the Church which Christ founded. Christ fulfilled Torah for Israel and instituted a new iteration of God's Law for Christians (based on the same principles that were the basis for Torah - love for God and each other). Thus, for those who have accepted Christ's sacrifice and received God's Holy Spirit, their lives will reflect obedience to Christ's iteration of God's Law.
The following list was compiled by Robert Gerringer, and first published by Ambassador Report in the 70's. It represents some of the customs and traditions of the Worldwide Church of God up until about 1973. How times change!
Do not use medicines or drugs.
Never wear sideburns below the middle of the ear, or comb your hair over the forehead.
Never dance without holding your partner and don't wiggle your hips.
Never listen to hard rock music.
Do not contribute to charities (Easter Seals, March of Dimes, etc.).
Women should wear skirts long enough to at least touch the top of the knee.
Women must wear their hair long enough to cover the nape of the neck.
Never vote in any elections.
Never join a political party.
Avoid doctors and hospitals.
Never receive a blood transfusion.
Do not donate blood.
Never serve in the military in any capacity.
Never celebrate Christmas, Easter, New Year's, Halloween, Valentines Day, St. Patrick's Day, or April Fool's. Celebrate Thanksgiving.
Do not have more than two drinks a night.
Don't be a teetotaler.
Never wear make-up.
Men should never wear a toupee or wig.
Women can only wear wigs if they are bald.
Never color your hair.
Women should not wear pants (except for sports activities).
Never ever smoke anything.
Pray at least 30 minutes a day.
Study your Bible at least thirty minutes a day.
Fast and meditate regularly.
Never join or remain a member of a "worldly" club (Elks, Lions, Kiwanis, etc.).
Watch only movies rated G and occasionally PG.
Do not observe Mother's Day in England (Mother's Day is OK in America).
Do not earn a living as a policeman, judge, fireman, physician, elected official (except Mayor of Big Sandy), astronaut, gambler, concert musician, actor or ballet dancer.
Never have a picture of "Christ", "God", "angels" or "saints."
Women should not go braless.
Women should not take "the Pill" or have an abortion.
Do not allow your children to join the boy scouts or girl scouts.
Children should not play "pretend" games.
Women should not wear Tampons.
Always take notes during church services.
Never call a minister "Reverend."
Never bring the "unconverted" to services without the minister's permission, this includes close relatives such as an unconverted mate and children over 16.
Never co-sign for a loan.
Do not wear heart shaped lockets.
Beware of classical music written by demon inspired composers.
Never serve on a jury.
Never sign over your body for scientific study.
Do not read the writings of philosophers such as Plato and Aristotle.
Do not vote for or initiate a labor strike.
Going to night clubs is allowed, in moderation.
Do not have organ music in church.
Men should not wear pink or flowery shirts.
Children should not be allowed to read fairy tales or nursery rhymes.
Single people should date widely.
Never date a non-Worldwide Church of God member.
Never neck on a date. If engaged, a good-night kiss is permissible, if not prolonged.
Never hold hands unless married or engaged.
When married, have sex only in the two approved positions; never kiss below the neck (pre-1960's), never kiss below the waist (pre-1975).
Dentists are OK.
Novocaine is OK.
Antibiotics are not OK.
Immunizations are not OK.
Only unmarried women should be employed.
Never date or marry outside your race.
The races should be segregated whenever possible.
Men should not wear beards.
Do not eat maraschino cherries.
Never get a tatoo.
Avoid "Protestant type" hymns.
Minimize contact with non-believers.
Use olive oil and wine on sores.
For weddings, use only the Herbert Armstrong approved ceremony.
Card playing is OK. Never listen to "soul music".
Have only a graveside service at funerals.
Never wear or own a crucifix. Never sign a letter "in Jesus' Name" unless you are a minister.
Church buildings should not have steeples or stained glass windows.
Never build or own an obelisk.
Never celebrate birthdays.
Don't go into partnerships in business.
Never say "God bless you" when someone sneezes (in fact, never say "God bless you").
Always buy "quality". Strive to become "cultured".
Do not break an engagement to be married.
Always get a minister's advice before making any important decisions (changing a job, marrying, selling your home, etc.).
Never go along with new styles or trends until at least 50% of the public has adopted them. Never be a leader in setting styles or trends.
Never support or attend the services of any Catholic or Protestant church. (The Catholic Church is the "great whore" of Revelation. It is Satan's church and Protestant churches are its children.)
Do not listen to preachers who teach contrary to the WCG doctrines.
Do not practice vegetarianism.
Do not have your body cremated.
Women should not wear two-piece bathing suits and especially not bikinis.
Men should not wear tight bathing suits (in England only).
Do not engage in sky diving (before David Armstrong's interest in same).
Never chew tobacco.
Do not speculate in stocks or bonds.
Never ever use "unnatural" farming methods (chemical fertilizers. pesticides, etc.).
Never act in, direct, produce or write a drama.
Never hypnotize anyone or be hypnotized.
Do not celebrate the 4th of July (pre-1965).
Do not adopt children.
Do not have your ears pierced.
Make ample use of corporal punishment in rearing children.
David C. Pack is an expert on the topic of strange ideas. He is obsessed with distorting Bible doctrines, perverting them into an abomination of his own corrupted imagination. The Pastor General of The Restored Church of God clearly sees the reasons for his prophetic failures and dwindling membership. None of those reasons have anything to do with him because the answers are always external.
The wicked spirits in high places are very active in The Restored Church of God. Just not the way David C. Pack thinks.
According to him, the reason brethren flee his spiritually bankrupt organization always has some outside, nefarious cause. The devil seduced them. Their spiritual weakness revealed itself when their human nature pulled them away. They just followed their dumb wives out the door. They just want to go off and sin and eat pepperoni pizza.
They lack the faith to accept “The Greatest Unending Story!” Series is God ending the Mystery of God through His chosen human vessel. They lack patience because “This is taking too long.” They are high-minded because “Mr. Pack can’t get all the tiny details right.” They are rigid and unable to accept revealed knowledge because “This isn’t what Mr. Armstrong taught.”
He thinks leaving The Restored Church of God, “is as easy as sipping a cup of coffee.” Since I understand firsthand because I lived it, strange ideas like that broadcast that David C. Pack has no idea what he is talking about.
David C. Pack wants to believe every reason under the sun for why brethren leave RCG except for the one that is true: David C. Pack.
The Pastor General is a hypocritical blaspheming liar, false apostle, false teacher, and false prophet preaching antichrist doctrines that defy the Word of God. He weaponizes the Bible to manipulate minds and control them with fear. Love has waxed very cold inside RCG, and it stems from the central vortex of bitter madness: David C. Pack.
There is a thick darkness permeating Headquarters. The Series will never end because God is not guiding David C. Pack to teach his doctrinal debauchery. The Holy Spirit does not move David C. Pack to utter the words that cause him deeply troubled discomfort. He preaches a foolishly meandering, confusing cesspool of doctrinal filthiness presented as honey dripped from heaven.
People leave The Restored Church of God because they read and believe their Bibles. Hearing what David C. Pack says should be all anyone needs to discern if he preaches the truths of God.
During “The Greatest Unending Story! (Part 506),” on April 9, 2024, David C. Pack seized the opportunity to warn members from leaving the organization because they would forfeit their salvation and make the biggest mistake of their existence.
After proving for months that the Kingdom of God would arrive on Abib 1, April 8, 2024, only to have nothing happen, he knew he had to address the potential for even more people to flee.
Part 506 – April 9, 2024 @ 01:19:34 I I wonder if there is a very difficult period. I wanna inoculate you. If we do go through a very di–difficult period, Matthew 24 and Luke 12 have always suggested (let's hope I'm not reading it right) that some yet leave and kindle a fire and do not abide the day of Christ coming.
Matthew and Luke foretold some would leave RCG and cause trouble for them. Interesting.
@ 1:20:42 So, do Matthew 24 and Luke 12, some say, “My Lord delays his coming.” Kindle the fire is that the last unbelieving hypocrites among us who were purged by God?
A great David C. Pack irony is that he has been preaching for eight-and-a-half years that "My Lord delays his coming." With each prophetic failure, he has to preach why God gave the members more time. When David C. Pack moves the Kingdom of God's arrival from Abib 1 to Abib 15 to Iyar 1 to Tammuz 1, he is preaching to the brethren of The Restored Church of God, "My Lord delays his coming."
He is also letting people in the chairs know that if they leave, God is purging them. They are not leaving because they discern a fool and depart from his presence. They are not leaving because the Bible instructs everyone to not be afraid of false prophets. They are not leaving because Paul warned of false teachers. No, they want to leave because Jesus Christ is vomiting them out of His mouth.
This is cultish mind control. If you stay in your seat, you are NOT being purged by God.
@ 1:20:58 I watch people leave for for reasons so silly I I just can't even fathom it.
He is saying brethren who leave have no legitimate reasons for doing so. That is a lie. David C. Pack belittles anyone who disagrees with him because he cannot accept the reality that he is the direct cause of anyone's departure.
None of this is new.
Flashback Part 499 – March 21, 2024 @ 32:40 I watch people leave the church. We just had a little cluster of people leave the church because a serpent bit all of them. And and I watch ‘em, again, just like a a sip of coffee. They just let their salvation slip away. But, let’s read. I mean, would people do that? Did they hear the 500 hours? And the answer’s No. What then, why where they here? And they leave over some of the dumbest things.
Fleeing from a documented blaspheming liar false prophet is what the Bible teaches. People who DO hear the five hundred hours have more than enough information to discern the wisdom of leaving David C. Pack and The Restored Church of God.
Do not walk away. Run.
@ 38:14 And you’ll wonder how could anybody ever leave the only church who knows the things I’m showing you.
Things he would later show them are inaccurate, and have to re-invent the wheel as he has been doing for years.
@ 1:13:36 I’ve watched scores of thousand, I’ve said this over and over to people who will sit and hear me say it and blow it off like they never heard me say it. They must have a way of lying to themself.
When brethren finally do escape The Restored Church of God, it is because they DID hear the words of David C. Pack.
Another great David C. Pack irony is he lies to himself all day, every day. It is the only way he can stare perfect, consistent failure in the face and still cling to the lunatic fantasy that God is guiding him.
@ 1:14:57 We’ve had to wait twenty-five years. No wonder. Attacked, lied to, lied about, lied to, attacked.And people just, “Yeah, I’ll leave the church.” Like they snapped their fingers.
Since June 2022, the exrcg.org website has been dedicated to accurate and honest reporting on the happenings inside The Restored Church of God. David C. Pack is quoted correctly and in context. Video clips are provided when his delivery is coherent enough. He is not being lied about from here.
Flashback Part 500 – March 23, 2024 @ 1:47:01 You think you wanna be in this world? [chuckles] You know, we got people just too stupid to be a First Fruit—What? What? They leave. But I've watched it my whole life.
Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks, and the heart of a loving shepherd just burst forth.
Flashback Part 501 – March 30, 2024 @ 10:47 And I've searched diligently, but somebody was supposta understand. You think if you think, “Well, I’m not the one,” well, then you better wait for some other David. Some people wouldn’t wait.“Mr. Pack, you figure out what thousands of prophets over centuries of their lives knew nothing of. If you figured out and if you don’t, I’m gonna leave.”
David C. Pack has a disturbed perception of the people who recognize his wickedness and depart from him. The paradoxical Pastor General is both an arrogant narcissist and a whimpering victim. He knows how to attack and pout at the same time.
Near the end of Part 506, Dave felt more comfortable laying harsher criticisms upon those who had already left as a warning to anyone else in the audience who might dare to follow.
The Romans crucified criminals and staged their bodies along the main road as a warning.
David C. Pack adopts the same philosophy.
Part 506 – April 9, 2024 @ 1:33:08 Eight and a half years just seemed too unreasonable, too strange for the self-righteous among us who were just above this, and they left. Followed their own lusts. They left. And I I started all of this to tell you a few more might. And what we've done is not so strange or hard, and that people who've quit, you should not think that's strange because people have been walking away from the way of God since the Garden.
@ 1:33:45 No other church on Earth knows about this Kingdom.
The Kingdom that did not come on April 8. The Kingdom that has been changing for over eight years.
@ 1:34:21 This is 506 or 7, I guess. I could do it in a hundred messages and speak much less often. Maybe fewer people had left, but that iddn't, apparently, what God wanted. I kept thinking it was right and it was wrong.
David C. Pack has NO IDEA what God wants. His consistent failures prove God is not backing him up.
@ 1:35:24 Life would've been more normal and maybe more people would've stayed that God did not want to stay because we had to be willing to go through this difficult period.
Could people remaining in The Restored Church of God thwart God's purpose? Imagine the implications.
@ 1:35:43 To leave the only church that sees it is far beyond foolish.One who does this is without excuse. You know what they believe? They reject the whole thing.
STOP Do not miss this next sentence.
This is clinical proof that David C. Pack possesses a warped mind entirely disconnected from reality in 3…2…1…
@ 1:35:57 The fact that I got a date or two right wrong or something, or some detail wrong, but saw a kingdom nobody else could see.
A date or two? That perfectly encapsulates the mentality of David C. Pack. Talk about lying to yourself.
The homepage of exrcg.org hosts a tally of 79 failed dates proclaimed by David C. Pack, and that is only as of Tammuz 1, 2022. If there were "only two," not including the day before Dave uttered that stupid comment, we could start where it all began on Elul 24 in 2013 and throw in Esther's Fast “Night Watch” in 2019.
It is sometimes hard to fathom that David C. Pack believes his own words, considering how filled they are with lies. David C. Pack does not just speak lies. It is who he is.
@ 1:36:06 And you leave the only church that says that, you're probably gone. There is a fire that devours before the Father got here. There are people who are gonna be cutting two. They had to have rejected the whole thing because, you know, because “Mr. Pack couldn't get details right,I'm gonna go back into the world,” and most of 'em do go back into the world.
The Father will devour those who leave RCG with fire or cut them in two. That is a strong motivator to stay. According to David C. Pack, we all left because we rejected the details. What a foolish, deceived man he is.
@ 1:36:28 So, I wanted to say all of that because we might go through a bumpy period. Do what will not be strange is unbelieving hypocrites. Hypocrite means, in the Greek hupokritēs, it means a stage actor. There are people who are stage actors. Some are really good, like Judas, and you just cannot know it.
Documented hypocrite David C. Pack is really bad at being a Judas because we can spot him easily.
Dave was proud of his 15-minute “strange” angle during Part 506. He set up why the Series was moving closer to nine years without the Kingdom of God in sight. It was not strange that people were leaving RCG because God wanted that. Just as God wanted the Series to drag on.
@ 1:21:07 First, let me say it's always seems strange to me that God required the Series to be so long for me to finally get the picture right. Always just seemed strange.
That would require God to be behind the Series. He is not. It would also require David C. Pack to “finally get the picture right," and he has not. Part 509 set an exclamation point above that.
Every week, he changes the picture and explains why the last right picture was actually the wrong picture because the new right picture is better than the last right picture, which is now wrong. Right?
@ 1:22:12 Now, speaking of strange, I want you to, God has us go through strange things. Isaiah walked for years with his bare bottom hanging out. Strange.
Dave frolics through the Bible to point out all the “strange” things God had people do. In his conclusion, he exploits these instances as a cover to explain away his own failings.
I will list a few of his points, let him conclude, then defeat his entire fifteen minute argument in a single sentence. Well, Dave actually defeated himself, but he did not realize it.
“Strange” Bible Occurrences • Isaiah walked bare-bottom • Jeremiah hid a belt in the rocks • Hosea married a whore • The Two Witnesses will walk in sackcloth • Ezekiel ate a scroll • Jonah was in a whale's belly • Israel marched around Jericho for seven days • Noah built an ark • Abraham instituted circumcision
You get the point. Dave presented fifteen minutes of that. And he was so excited about the perfect logic of it all and how warm that blanket must have felt while doing it.
@ 1:23:24 Those are all strange things that God has asked His people to do.
@ 1:26:23 Eight and a half years learning about a kingdom isn't all that strange.
@ 1:28:54 Those are the strangest things you get. That's why a lot of people laugh at the Bible because it's a God who requires things of people. Eight and a half years for a Series. Can you imagine the persecution I get that I don't even tell you about?
David C. Pack drew a line between strange things in the Bible and the Series creeping along. He had built for himself a sure house of excuses. Watch him defeat his entire argument in one of his own sentences.
@ 1:23:24 Those are all strange things that God has asked His people to do.
God did not ask, direct, command, commission, charge, instruct, inspire, or even suggest that David C. Pack teach any of the content in the Series. There could be ten thousand strange things listed in the Bible, but none apply to David C. Pack. God did not send him, yet he ran.
The greatest tool for defeating David C. Pack is accurately quoting David C. Pack.
