The Dark Side of Armstrongism: The Attleboro Sect - The Body of Christ - Roland Robidoux

The Attleboro Sect, also known as "The Body" or "The Body of Christ," was a small, insular Christian fundamentalist group based in Attleboro, Massachusetts, and nearby Seekonk, that gained notoriety in the late 1990s and early 2000s due to its extreme practices and the tragic deaths of two infants. Below is a comprehensive overview of the sect, focusing on its history, beliefs, key events, and aftermath, with particular attention to its activities around 1980 and beyond, based on available information.

Origins and Formation (1970s–1980s)

The Attleboro Sect began in the late 1970s, founded by Roland Robidoux, a former pastor ordained in the Worldwide Church of God (WCOG) in Rhode Island in 1975. After leaving WCOG in 1977 due to internal scandals, Roland, along with his wife Georgette and defector Brian Weeks, established the Church of God in Mansfield, Massachusetts, which later moved to Norton and then North Attleboro by 1986. The group eventually adopted the name "The Body of Christ" in 1998.

By around 1980, the sect was in its early stages, operating as a Bible study group with a focus on strict Christian fundamentalism. It consisted primarily of two extended families, the Robidoux and Daneau clans, living semi-communally in Attleboro and Seekonk. The group was relatively open in the early 1980s, occasionally proselytizing for new members until 1997. At its peak in 1995, it had about 40 members, including 19 children.

Beliefs and Practices

The Attleboro Sect’s beliefs were rooted in a radical interpretation of Christianity, heavily influenced by the teachings of Carol Balizet’s Home in Zion Ministries, adopted around 1997. Key tenets included:

Rejection of Modern Systems: The sect rejected what they called "Satan’s seven counterfeit systems," including modern medicine, government, education, legal systems, and media. They believed these institutions were corrupt and opposed to God’s will.

Divine Revelations: The group placed immense importance on personal "visions" or "leadings" from God, which they believed provided direct guidance. These revelations often dictated daily decisions, including extreme actions like dietary restrictions.

Ascetic and Insular Lifestyle: Members lived communally, socialized only within the group, and avoided mainstream society. They rejected conventional practices like celebrating birthdays (due to perceived pagan origins of candles) and wearing glasses, even for those with poor vision.

Home Schooling and Isolation: Children were home-schooled to avoid secular education, and the group increasingly isolated itself from the outside world, especially after 1997.

No Medical Intervention: The sect’s rejection of modern medicine led to dangerous practices, such as refusing prenatal care, hospital births, or medical treatment for illnesses, believing God would provide healing.

Journal Keeping: Members meticulously documented their activities in journals, believing they were writing "Scripture" as God’s chosen people. These journals later became critical evidence in legal proceedings.

Leadership and Structure

Jacques Robidoux

Initially led by Roland Robidoux, the sect saw a shift in leadership in 1997 when Roland unilaterally appointed his son, Jacques Robidoux, as an "Elder" at age 23. Jacques became the de facto leader, intensifying the group’s radical practices. The sect operated without checks and balances, with leaders claiming a "direct pipeline to God," allowing them to make unaccountable decisions. This hierarchical structure suppressed individual thought and freedom, leading experts to describe the group as a "high-control destructive" organization with cult-like characteristics.

Key Events and Tragedies (Late 1990s–2000)

The sect’s extreme practices culminated in the deaths of two infants, which brought national attention and legal scrutiny:

Death of Samuel Robidoux (April 1999):Samuel, the 10-month-old son of Jacques and Karen Robidoux, died of starvation after Jacques, following a "vision" from his sister Michelle Mingo, restricted Samuel’s diet to almond milk. Karen, pregnant at the time and not lactating, could not provide sufficient nutrition. Jacques believed that God would protect Samuel or that he could resurrect him if harm occurred. The infant’s deterioration was documented in a chilling journal, later used as evidence.

Death of Jeremiah Corneau (August 1999):Jeremiah, the newborn son of David and Rebecca Corneau, died during a home birth without medical assistance. Authorities believed he could have survived with routine medical intervention, such as clearing his lungs, but the sect’s rejection of medicine prevented this. The Corneaus claimed the baby was stillborn.

Burial in Baxter State Park: Both infants’ bodies were buried in Baxter State Park, Maine, during a group camping trip in 1999. The sect towed the bodies in a red trailer, and Jacques Robidoux, David Corneau, and others buried them in the woods. The children’s accounts of this trip later helped authorities locate the bodies.

Investigation and Legal Consequences

The sect’s activities came to light in November 1999 when Dennis Mingo, a former member who left in 1998 due to concerns about the group’s extremism, turned over incriminating journals to the police. Mingo’s five children, whom he regained custody of, provided crucial information about the deaths and the burial site.

Investigation:

Police began investigating in November 1999 after suspecting Samuel’s death. The children’s testimony revealed details about the Maine trip and the burial of two infants. Multiple searches in Baxter State Park were initially unsuccessful, but David Corneau, granted immunity, led police to the bodies on October 25, 2000.

Legal Outcomes:

Jacques Robidoux: Convicted of first-degree murder in June 2002 for Samuel’s death, sentenced to life without parole. He later sought a new trial, claiming he was brainwashed and should have pursued an insanity defense, but appeals were unsuccessful.

Karen Robidoux: Cleared of second-degree murder using a battered women’s defense, arguing she was under the sect’s control. She was convicted of assault and sentenced to time served.

Michelle Mingo: Pleaded guilty to accessory to murder and was sentenced to time served.

David and Rebecca Corneau: Not charged in Jeremiah’s death, as it was deemed a stillbirth, but they lost custody of their four children and faced legal battles over another pregnancy.

Roland Robidoux: Never charged and died of natural causes in 2006.

Other Members: By June 2000, eight members were arrested, and 13 children were taken into state custody. Most children were placed with relatives outside the sect.

Aftermath and Impact

Child Welfare: The 19 children in the sect faced significant trauma from the breakup of their communal family. By 2002, most were adopted or placed with non-sect relatives, with reports indicating they were adjusting well. The children’s cooperation was pivotal in solving the case, as they were less indoctrinated than adults.

Public and Expert Analysis: Experts like Robert Pardon, who studied the sect extensively, described it as a "destructive" group with cult-like traits, including mind control and suppression of individual freedom. The sect’s rejection of medical care and extreme isolation were compared to groups like the Branch Davidians or Heaven’s Gate, though it was smaller and less focused on recruitment.

Legacy: The Attleboro Sect remains a cautionary tale of how religious extremism can lead to tragic outcomes. Its story has been covered in true crime podcasts, such as True Crime New England (2024) and Cults (2020), highlighting its impact on the local community and broader discussions about cults and child welfare.

Context Around 1980

The sect’s most notorious activities occurred in the late 1990s. In 1980, the group was still forming, operating as a Bible study group under Roland Robidoux’s leadership. It had not yet adopted the extreme practices that defined its later years, such as rejecting medical care or following divine "visions." By this time, the group was likely focused on communal living and strict Christian teachings, with members like Dennis Mingo describing early years as relatively benign, centered on weekly Bible studies. The shift toward radicalism began in the mid-1990s, particularly after Jacques Robidoux’s rise to leadership in 1997.

More information here:

I-Team: 'Holy God, I Killed My Own Son,' Former Cult Leader Jacques Robidoux Wants To Help Others Avoid Mind Control

Crime New England: Episode 162: The Children of the Attleboro Cult

Attleboro Sect Part 1,  Attleboro Sect: Roland and Jacques Robidoux Pt. 2

Witness describes insular, ascetic life in Attleboro sect

Children of Attleboro religious sect aided investigation

When the fog lifts  Former cult leader and convicted murderer Jacques Robidoux says he experienced a transformation in prison, and now he wants others to avoid the crooked path he trod

MISANDRY ANGIE The Attleboro Sect 1/5

Here on Banned:

Jaques Rubidoux: COG Splinter Group Leader Who Starved His 10 Month Old Son To Death Now Realizes How Wrong He Was

Church of God Couple In Prison Over Beating Children With 2"x4"s, Metal Pipes, and Whips

 

 

PCG’s “Celtic Throne” is Falun Gong’s “Shen Yun”

Celtic Throne - Israel and UK Tour

As we've followed the Philadelphia Church of God's Irish Dance troupe touring globally with its Celtic Throne production, recently performing in Israel and the UK, one thing stands out: the lack of clarity about who is behind the production.

The Exit and Support Network recently highlighted the Philadelphia Church of God's deceptive practices in concealing the true organizers of the show. This mirrors the concerts at the Ambassador Auditorium in Pasadena, fully funded by the Worldwide Church of God but presented under the guise of the Ambassador International Cultural Foundation to obscure its true backers.

Armstrongism has a history of employing "justified lying" in its public outreach efforts.

WHAT’S BEHIND CELTIC THRONE PRODUCTION?

You would never know that there’s a “church” behind Celtic Throne production–in fact they go to great lengths to hide it. In media interviews, they never mention the name of the “church” which is Philadelphia Church of God. And in the play bills, they portray it as being backed by a “Cultural Foundation.” The website? Nary a mention of the “church” underwriting it or its intended religious purpose.

Philadelphia Church of God on X, PCG News, is FULL of activities:summer camps
acquisition of properties in other countries a global Irish dance production (which you have to BUY tickets to attend) construction of a massive new farm, including a huge barn and landscaping project in Edmond firewood and flower sales fundraisers

Lacking in all of these activities is anything related to the scriptural commands from Christ as in Matthew 25:34-41.

When I was a member, and to my knowledge still today, the PCG has never:helped communities that have faced a natural disaster provided meals, shelter, clothing for the poor in their community had any community outreach program that served prisoners (other than an incarcerated member or two)
served the non-members sick or elderly in the community they live in given away a single copy of the Bible, the living Word of God

In fact, the third tithe the PCG demands from its wrung-out members for ‘the fatherless and the widow’ was rarely doled out, and when it was, it was often given as a loan that had to be paid back, clearly violating the biblical instruction. (More than one headquarters employee has resigned or been asked to leave for their disagreement with how PCG was utilizing funds under their tax exempt status.)

Everything the PCG does essentially distills down to a self-aggrandizing agenda that transfers wealth from the general membership and concentrates it among a few privileged individuals and families at its “headquarters” locations, under the auspices of “the work.”

Today the PCG believes that its multi-million dollar, ego-driven Irish dance production literally IS “the work.” (Spoiler alert: church head, Gerald Flurry believes he’s the current Davidic King sitting on the throne portrayed in the show.)

How’s “the work” going? (By the way, you have to PAY to watch it, violating the command in Proverbs 23:23: “Buy the truth and sell it not…”)

PCG characterizes Celtic throne as a,”…trailblazing new show, a fusion of Irish dance, music, theater and cinema…” The PCG’s “Celtic Throne” is Falun Gong’s “Shen Yun”, a highly sanitized cultural experience that is more akin to a subtle recruiting and indoctrination tool.

Further, the Celtic Throne production is a colossal, “church” funded act of self-infatuation to allow a handful of elite “headquarters” families an opportunity to garner fame and massage their ever-growing egos on the international stage. Even the Jerusalem Post made this observation: “They really are family – well, five families, to be exact. It’s the Irish dance version of the Von Trapps.”

How effective have they been at their mission?

“The storyline may be tough to follow and doesn’t make a whole lot of sense – some ancient Irish guy going from Jerusalem to the Emerald Isle…”

The cerebral self-stimulation they call “the work” hits home as nothing more than “two hours of high-octane dance.” Cited article: https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/culture/article-857316

The PCG today wouldn’t recognize itself from 20 years ago. At that time, their purported purpose was to deliver a “watchman’s warning message” and to restore the teachings of its spiritual founder, Herbert Armstrong, whom they considered “God’s apostle.” Today, the church has quite literally re-written those teachings, and transformed into yet one more secular “church” cloaked under a 501(c)(3), amassing concentrated wealth and bestowing privileged lifestyles to its elite members (fancy performance halls, exclusive coaching, private jet travel, ostentatious homes on a private compound), on the backs of the rank and file who are giving away up to 40% of their post-tax income.

Dig deeper and you’ll find stories of families ripped apart, suicides, broken marriages, preventable deaths and general confusion, depression, and disillusionment.

It’s questionable whether the Philadelphia Church of God has any of God’s presence in it at all.

By Ivan (former PCG member)
June 23, 2025

Crackpot Prophet Melts Down Over Banned, Then Gets Put In His Place

Bob's Got His Panties in a Bunch Again Because of Us!

Predictably, Continuing Church of God and self-proclaimed prophet, Bob Thiel has taken our humble little anti-Armstrong Church of God blog to task for daring to question his credentials as a historian of early Church history. In a post entitled Banned from the Truth About Church History, Bob accuses us of not telling the truth about him or the early history of the Church (see Is Our Favorite Crackpot Prophet A Real Historian?).

For Bob, a response to my post was an imperative, because it went to the heart of his claim to fame - that he is an "authority" on the early history of Christianity. In short, his narrative about the First Century ekklesia is the bedrock of his defense of the teachings of Armstrongism. More particularly, he repeats the story that Sabbath observance was the norm within the ekklesia of the First and Second Centuries of the Common Era, and that the celebration of Sunday was a late, pagan, and heretical corruption of primitive Christianity. Thus, any contradiction of this false narrative naturally excites "Dr" Thiel's passions.

True to form, Bob began his little diatribe by quoting a Scripture from Proverbs: Do not answer a fool according to his folly, Lest you also be like him. Answer a fool according to his folly, Lest he be wise in his own eyes. (Proverbs 26:4-5) Hence, we will attempt to craft an answer to Bob's response which precludes him from appearing wise in his own eyes!

Next, Bob attempted to refute my assessment of his own statement that "The Church of God has the Right Name and the Right Size." He wrote: 

"Well, most scholars do believe that Church of God was a name used by Christians–and that is not limited to 'the King James Version of the New Testament.' And while the term assembly could be used as well, it basically meant the same thing."  

 

Actually, the body of believers/disciples of Christ is most often called, simply, ekklesia in the original Greek (or Church in English). The phrase "Church of God" appears just eight times in the King James Version of the New Testament. Whereas "ekklesia" or "church" appears about thirty-five times! Moreover, according to Blue Letter Bible, the word means "a gathering of citizens called out from their homes into some public place, an assembly." We should also note that the Church is often tied to a particular geographic location in Scripture (as in the Church of the Laodiceans, Church of Ephesus, etc.). Bob ignored my comments about the "right size" of the Church.

As for those writings from the First and Second Centuries that I mentioned in my post, Bob directed his reader's attention to a number of articles penned by him which attempted to discredit them as proof/evidence that his narrative is false. I am happy to let the reader peruse these passages and decide for him/herself whether Bob's commentary on their meaning fits the context:

But every Lord's day gather yourselves together, and break bread, and give thanksgiving after having confessed your transgressions, that your sacrifice may be pure. But let no one who is at odds with his fellow come together with you, until they be reconciled, that your sacrifice may not be profaned. For this is that which was spoken by the Lord: "In every place and time offer to me a pure sacrifice; for I am a great King, says the Lord, and my name is wonderful among the nations." (Early Christian Writings: The Didache (Roberts translation) - Chapter 14

14:1 And on the Lord's own day gather yourselves together and break bread and give thanks, first confessing your transgressions, that your sacrifice may be pure.
14:2 And let no man, having his dispute with his fellow, join your assembly until they have been reconciled, that your sacrifice may not be defiled;
14:3 for this sacrifice it is that was spoken of by the Lord;
14:4 {In every place and at every time offer Me a pure sacrifice;
14:5 for I am a great king, saith the Lord and My name is wonderful among the nations.} (Early Christian Writings: The Didache (Lightfoot translation) - Chapter 14

Further, also, it is written concerning the Sabbath in the Decalogue which [the Lord] spoke, face to face, to Moses on Mount Sinai, "And sanctify ye the Sabbath of the Lord with clean hands and a pure heart." And He says in another place, "If my sons keep the Sabbath, then will I cause my mercy to rest upon them." The Sabbath is mentioned at the beginning of the creation [thus]: "And God made in six days the works of His hands, and made an end on the seventh day, and rested on it, and sanctified it." Attend, my children, to the meaning of this expression, "He finished in six days." This implieth that the Lord will finish all things in six thousand years, for a day is with Him a thousand years. And He Himself testifieth, saying, "Behold, to-day will be as a thousand years." Therefore, my children, in six days, that is, in six thousand years, all things will be finished. "And He rested on the seventh day." This meaneth: when His Son, coming [again], shall destroy the time of the wicked man, and judge the ungodly, and change the-sun, and the moon, and the stars, then shall He truly rest on the seventh day. Moreover, He says, "Thou shalt sanctify it with pure hands and a pure heart." If, therefore, any one can now sanctify the day which God hath sanctified, except he is pure in heart in all things, we are deceived. Behold, therefore: certainly then one properly resting sanctifies it, when we ourselves, having received the promise, wickedness no longer existing, and all things having been made new by the Lord, shall be able to work righteousness. Then we shall be able to sanctify it, having been first sanctified ourselves. Further, He says to them, "Your new moons and your Sabbath I cannot endure." Ye perceive how He speaks: Your present Sabbaths are not acceptable to Me, but that is which I have made, [namely this,] when, giving rest to all things, I shall make a beginning of the eighth day, that is, a beginning of another world. Wherefore, also, we keep the eighth day with joyfulness, the day also on which Jesus rose again from the dead. And when He had manifested Himself, He ascended into the heavens. (Early Christian Writings: Epistle of Barnabas (Roberts translation) - Chapter 15 

 

But if any one preach the Jewish law unto you, listen not to him. For it is better to hearken to Christian doctrine from a man who has been circumcised, than to Judaism from one uncircumcised. But if either of such persons do not speak concerning Jesus Christ, they are in my judgment but as monuments and sepulchres of the dead, upon which are written only the names of men. Flee therefore the wicked devices and snares of the prince of this world, lest at any time being conquered by his artifices, ye grow weak in your love. But be ye all joined together with an undivided heart. And I thank my God that I have a good conscience in respect to you, and that no one has it in his power to boast, either privately or publicly, that I have burdened any one either in much or in little. And I wish for all among whom I have spoken, that they may not possess that for a testimony against them. 

 

If any one preaches the one God of the law and the prophets, but denies Christ to be the Son of God, he is a liar, even as also is his father the devil, and is a Jew falsely so called, being possessed of mere carnal circumcision. If any one confesses Christ Jesus the Lord, but denies the God of the law and of the prophets, saying that the Father of Christ is not the Maker of heaven and earth, he has not continued in the truth any more than his father the devil, and is a disciple of Simon Magus, not of the Holy Spirit. If any one says there is one God, and also confesses Christ Jesus, but thinks the Lord to be a mere man, and not the only-begotten God, and Wisdom, and the Word of God, and deems Him to consist merely of a soul and body, such an one is a serpent, that preaches deceit and error for the destruction of men. And such a man is poor in understanding, even as by name he is an Ebionite. If any one confesses the truths mentioned, but calls lawful wedlock, and the procreation of children, destruction and pollution, or deems certain kinds of food abominable, such an one has the apostate dragon dwelling within him. If any one confesses the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Ghost, and praises the creation, but calls the incarnation merely an appearance, and is ashamed of the passion, such an one has denied the faith, not less than the Jews who killed Christ. If any one confesses these things, and that God the Word did dwell in a human body, being within it as the Word, even as the soul also is in the body, because it was God that inhabited it, and not a human soul, but affirms that unlawful unions are a good thing, and places the highest happiness in pleasure, as does the man who is falsely called a Nicolaitan, this person can neither be a lover of God, nor a lover of Christ, but is a corrupter of his own flesh, and therefore void of the Holy Spirit, and a stranger to Christ. All such persons are but monuments and sepulchres of the dead, upon which are written only the names of dead men. Flee, therefore, the wicked devices and snares of the spirit which now worketh in the children of this world, lest at any time being overcome, ye grow weak in your love. But be ye all joined together with an undivided heart and a willing mind, "being of one accord and of one judgment," being always of the same opinion about the same things, both when you are at ease and in danger, both in sorrow and in joy. I thank God, through Jesus Christ, that I have a good conscience in respect to you, and that no one has it in his power to boast, either privately or publicly, that I have burdened any one either in much or in little. And I wish for all among whom I have spoken, that they may not possess that for a testimony against them. (Early Christian Writings: The Epistle of Ignatius of Antioch to the Philadelphians) 

 

Let us not, therefore, be insensible to His kindness. For were He to reward us according to our works, we should cease to be. Therefore, having become His disciples, let us learn to live according to the principles of Christianity. For whosoever is called by any other name besides this, is not of God. Lay aside, therefore, the evil, the old, the sour leaven, and be ye changed into the new leaven, which is Jesus Christ. Be ye salted in Him, lest any one among you should be corrupted, since by your savour ye shall be convicted. It is absurd to profess Christ Jesus, and to Judaize. For Christianity did not embrace Judaism, but Judaism Christianity, that so every tongue which believeth might be gathered together to God. 

 

Let us not, therefore, be insensible to His kindness. For were He to reward us according to our works, we should cease to be. For "if Thou, Lord, shalt mark iniquities, O Lord, who shall stand? " Let us therefore prove ourselves worthy of that name which we have received. For whosoever is called by any other name besides this, he is not of God; for he has not received the prophecy which speaks thus concerning us: "The people shall be called by a new name, which the Lord shall name them, and shall be a holy people." This was first fulfilled in Syria; for "the disciples were called Christians at Antioch," when Paul and Peter were laying the foundations of the Church. Lay aside, therefore, the evil, the old, the corrupt leaven, and be ye changed into the new leaven of grace. Abide in Christ, that the stranger may not have dominion over you. It is absurd to speak of Jesus Christ with the tongue, and to cherish in the mind a Judaism which has now come to an end. For where there is Christianity there cannot be Judaism. For Christ is one, in whom every nation that believes, and every tongue that confesses, is gathered unto God. And those that were of a stony heart have become the children of Abraham, the friend of God; and in his seed all those have been blessed who were ordained to eternal life in Christ. (Early Christian Writings: The Epistle of Ignatius of Antioch to the Magnesians) 

 

But we, after we have thus washed him who has been convinced and has assented to our teaching, bring him to the place where those who are called brethren are assembled, in order that we may offer hearty prayers in common for ourselves and for the baptized [illuminated] person, and for all others in every place, that we may be counted worthy, now that we have learned the truth, by our works also to be found good citizens and keepers of the commandments, so that we may be saved with an everlasting salvation. Having ended the prayers, we salute one another with a kiss. There is then brought to the president of the brethren bread and a cup of wine mixed with water; and he taking them, gives praise and glory to the Father of the universe, through the name of the Son and of the Holy Ghost, and offers thanks at considerable length for our being counted worthy to receive these things at His hands. And when he has concluded the prayers and thanksgivings, all the people present express their assent by saying Amen. This word Amen answers in the Hebrew language to genoito [so be it]. And when the president has given thanks, and all the people have expressed their assent, those who are called by us deacons give to each of those present to partake of the bread and wine mixed with water over which the thanksgiving was pronounced, and to those who are absent they carry away a portion. 

 

And this food is called among us Eukaristia [the Eucharist], of which no one is allowed to partake but the man who believes that the things which we teach are true, and who has been washed with the washing that is for the remission of sins, and unto regeneration, and who is so living as Christ has enjoined. For not as common bread and common drink do we receive these; but in like manner as Jesus Christ our Saviour, having been made flesh by the Word of God, had both flesh and blood for our salvation, so likewise have we been taught that the food which is blessed by the prayer of His word, and from which our blood and flesh by transmutation are nourished, is the flesh and blood of that Jesus who was made flesh. For the apostles, in the memoirs composed by them, which are called Gospels, have thus delivered unto us what was enjoined upon them; that Jesus took bread, and when He had given thanks, said, "This do ye in remembrance of Me, this is My body;" and that, after the same manner, having taken the cup and given thanks, He said, "This is My blood;" and gave it to them alone. Which the wicked devils have imitated in the mysteries of Mithras, commanding the same thing to be done. For, that bread and a cup of water are placed with certain incantations in the mystic rites of one who is being initiated, you either know or can learn. 

 

And we afterwards continually remind each other of these things. And the wealthy among us help the needy; and we always keep together; and for all things wherewith we are supplied, we bless the Maker of all through His Son Jesus Christ, and through the Holy Ghost. And on the day called Sunday, all who live in cities or in the country gather together to one place, and the memoirs of the apostles or the writings of the prophets are read, as long as time permits; then, when the reader has ceased, the president verbally instructs, and exhorts to the imitation of these good things. Then we all rise together and pray, and, as we before said, when our prayer is ended, bread and wine and water are brought, and the president in like manner offers prayers and thanksgivings, according to his ability, and the people assent, saying Amen; and there is a distribution to each, and a participation of that over which thanks have been given, and to those who are absent a portion is sent by the deacons. And they who are well to do, and willing, give what each thinks fit; and what is collected is deposited with the president, who succours the orphans and widows and those who, through sickness or any other cause, are in want, and those who are in bonds and the strangers sojourning among us, and in a word takes care of all who are in need. But Sunday is the day on which we all hold our common assembly, because it is the first day on which God, having wrought a change in the darkness and matter, made the world; and Jesus Christ our Saviour on the same day rose from the dead. For He was crucified on the day before that of Saturn (Saturday); and on the day after that of Saturn, which is the day of the Sun, having appeared to His apostles and disciples, He taught them these things, which we have submitted to you also for your consideration. (Early Christian Writings: The First Apology of Justin Martyr) 

 

In response to my assertion that the events of 70 CE were of much greater significance for Jews and Christians, Bob went on to say: "The historical fact is that until c. 135 A.D. the Christians in Jerusalem did keep the Sabbath, Holy Days, avoiding unclean meat etc. When they were not allowed to, they once again fled." Once again, Mr. Thiel avoids the events of 70 CE because they destroy his narrative about the celebration of Sunday amongst early Christians! 

 

After all, Jesus Christ had prophesied the events of 70 CE during his earthly ministry. In the twenty-fourth chapter of the Gospel of Matthew, we read: "Jesus left the temple and was going away, when his disciples came to point out to him the buildings of the temple. But he answered them, 'You see all these, do you not? Truly, I say to you, there will not be left here one stone upon another that will not be thrown down.' (Matthew 24:1-2, ESV) Speaking of these events, Josephus wrote: "These Romans put the Jews to flight, and proceeded as far as the holy house itself. At which time one of the soldiers, without staying for any orders, and without any concern or dread upon him at so great an undertaking, and being hurried on by a certain divine fury, snatched some what out of the materials that were on fire, and being lifted up by another soldier, he set fire to a golden window, through which there wion, passage to the rooms that were round about the holy house, on the north side of it. As the flames went upward, the Jews made a great clamor, such as so mighty an affliction required, and ran together to prevent it; and now they spared not their lives any longer, nor suffered anything to restrain their force, since that holy house was perishing...thus it was the holy house burnt down...Nor can one imagine any thing greater or more terrible than this noise; for there was at once a shout of the Roman Legions, who were marching all together, and a sad clamor of the seditious, who were now surrounded with fire and sword... the people under a great consternation, made sad moans at the calamity they were under...Yet was the misery itself more terrible than the disorder; for one would have thought that the hill itself, on which the Temple stood, was seething hot, as full of fire on every part of it." (Jewish Virtual Library: The Destruction of the Second Temple - Flavius Josephus - Antiquities, xi. 1.2) 

 

Most historians readily acknowledge that the events of 70 CE marked a decisive turning point in the history of both Judaism and Christianity. Notice what one article had to say on the topic: "The fall of Jerusalem had dire immediate consequences for the Jewish people. Thousands had been killed during the siege, and those who survived faced enslavement, exile, or life in a ruined city. The loss of the Second Temple was particularly devastating, as it was not only the center of religious worship but also a symbol of national identity. It marked the beginning of a long diaspora for Jewish people. With the city in ruins and the Second Temple destroyed, many Jews were displaced, sold into slavery, or chose to leave the region. They established communities throughout the Roman Empire and beyond, profoundly shaping the Jewish experience and identity. With the destruction of the temple, the practice of Judaism had to adapt, necessitating a major shift in religious practice and thought, leading to the development of Rabbinic Judaism...The destruction of Jerusalem also had a profound impact on the early Christian movement. Many followers of Jesus had fled the city before the siege, spreading their beliefs to other parts of the Roman Empire. The destruction of the Temple and the city validated, for some, Jesus' prophetic warnings about Jerusalem's fall. Without a central Jewish authority in Jerusalem, and with Jewish communities scattered, Christianity began to evolve as a distinct religion, increasingly separate from its Jewish roots." (The Cataclysmic Siege of Jerusalem in AD 70 and Its Impact on Judaism and Christianity)

Like most Armstrongites, "Dr" Thiel also ignores and distorts what happened at the great Council of Jerusalem (see Acts 15). The same group responsible for the previous article had this to say about the significance of that event (which happened some twenty years before the destruction of the city and Temple by the Romans): 

"As the Christian mission expanded, particularly among Gentiles, a crucial question arose: Did non-Jewish converts need to follow all of the Jewish laws? The original disciples of Jesus in Jerusalem were ethnically Jewish and continued to observe the Torah, so when Gentiles started joining the movement in significant numbers, this became a pressing question. Some Judean Christians that were often called ‘Judaizers’ by historians argued that Gentile believers should undergo circumcision and keep kosher laws. Paul and others, however, contended that this was not necessary, since they taught that faith in Christ was sufficient for Gentiles. To resolve this dispute, the apostles and elders convened a meeting known as the Council of Jerusalem around AD 49 or 50. At it, leaders like Peter and James discussed the status of Gentile converts. The council reached a landmark decision: Gentile Christians would not be required to fully observe the Mosaic Law. This was a turning point in Christian history, as it opened the door for a much broader Gentile inclusion and helped Christianity develop its own identity distinct from Judaism. Over the next decades, the Gentile proportion of the Church grew rapidly." (The History of Christianity in the First Century)

Finally, the Scriptures of the New Testament affirm the importance of the day we call "Sunday" to early Christians (Matthew 28:1, Mark 16:1-2, Luke 24:1, John 20:1, Acts 2:1, Acts 20:7, I Corinthians 16:2, and Revelation 1:10). I have also noted in previous posts that there wasn't any pagan tradition of weekly "Sunday" observance for Christians to inherit!

Hence, for anyone willing to do a modicum of research into the subject of the early history of Christianity, Bob's narrative will appear false and self-serving. "Dr" Thiel has looked for writings, explanations, and historians who support his narrative - that all Christians observed the Sabbath for the first two or three hundred years of the Church's existence. Wrong Bob! This is only a small slice of the evidence which discredits your narrative!

 by Miller Jones/Lonnie C Hendrix

Crackpot Prophet Wants You To Celebrate Laodicean Independence Day

God's most highly favored prophet, divinely appointed for these perilous end times, belives he is tasked with guiding God's true people back to the one true church. Never before has the church witnessed such an extraordinary man or a church organization so miraculous. Even Paul and Herbert Armstrong pale in comparison to this remarkable figure.

Today, July 4th, is celebrated in the United States as Independence Day, marking the signing of the Declaration of Independence from British rule on July 4, 1776. This is one of the few national, secular holidays that Armstrongists can observe without fear of being tainted by what they view as degenerate, pagan influences seeking to distort God's truth.

Yet, this day has not escaped the folly of the so-called prophet, who feels compelled to opine on everything and dampen everyone's spirits. Heaven forbid anyone should celebrate with joy and have fun.

This brings us to today and one of the crackpot prophet's rants from July 3:

Tomorrow is USA Independence Day. 

 

Many in the USA will celebrate its independence from Britain. 

 

But what about being independent of the world? 

 

The Apostle John wrote:

15 Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 16 For all that is in the world — the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life — is not of the Father but is of the world. 17 And the world is passing away, and the lust of it; but he who does the will of God abides forever. (1 John 2:15-17)

The world and its ways will pass away and be gone. 

 

But being a true Christian allows one to abide forever.

How does one achieve this in 2025? By joining his cult, the only true Philadelphian church in existence today.

Yet, Jesus warned in His messages to the churches in Revelation 2 & 3 that most end time Christians would NOT be Philadelphian. Most will be Laodicean–a term that roughly translates as “people judge.” While many seem to think that is great, Jesus harshly scolded the Laodiceans (see Revelation 3:14-22). 

 

Why will most Laodiceans fail to be true Philadelphians? Because they rebel against God's divine government, established through the illegitimately ordained, self-proclaimed false prophet, the Great Bwana Bob Mzungu Thiel!

Rebelling against the King of England is ok, but rebelling against King Bob is not. Who knew?

Our Philadelphian King continues:

So, ask yourself, who is that one man today? Could God somehow have put him in his office and somehow confirmed it?

Anyone who had been in the old Worldwide Church of God in the 1980s, while Herbert W. Armstrong was alive, should have heard him repeatedly emphasize the importance of proper Church governance and one man hierarchical rule.

But most, after his death in 1986, DID NOT accept this teaching, and many of those who thought they did had issues truly understanding and abiding by it–they became cold or lukewarm.

Now, the Laodicean churches are different than other church eras. The letter to them begins with:

14 And to the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write (Revelation 3:14)

All but one of the other letters in Revelation are addressed to a church using the singular–the Laodicean letter is addressed to the plural. These churches do not accept the ONE MAN at a time that God uses to lead the most faithful church.

The Laodiceans do NOT accept how God works and DO NOT accept any true prophet of God.

How dare you reject the Great Bwana Bob Thiel! He was personally sent by God to restore true church government and hierarchy in the Church of God, despite refusing to submit to the authority of the Worldwide Church of God, Global Church of God, and Living Church of God. He rebelled against all three and set himself up as our new leader. One must pause here to recall that all three organizations REFUSED to ordain him—flat-out refused! He never even rose to the level of deacon! So, you can see why he needed to anoint himself and establish himself as divinely set apart to form a new church. No one was going to follow him, and he knew it. Yet, even after self-ordaining, 99.999% of the Churches of God REFUSED to follow him.

Only properly baptized people can join up with the Great Bwana King Bob:

If you have not been appropriately baptized, or are not sure if you have been, and you believe you are being called to become part of the Continuing Church of God, you will want to meet with a deacon or minister in the church to discuss church teachings and get questions answers. We have many congregations around the world, several of which are listed on our Congregations page. You can also read about the teachings of our church throughout this www.ccog.org website as well as the 

 

Once you have turned you life over to God and learned about the church, you are ready to become part of the body of Christ. You become a member of the Church of God through being baptized by a representative of the church. Baptism is a critical and fundamental step. Baptism signifies the death of our carnal nature and our being begotten as a follower of Jesus Christ. It allows us to partake God’s plan of eternal salvation. Furthermore, baptism is a public statement to the church and the world that the believer is turning away from loving the world and dedicating his/her life to God.

What is this nonsense about "proper" baptisms? ANYONE—let me repeat, ANYONE—can perform a baptism. You don’t need a Church of God minister, elder, or deacon to do it. It could be the elderly Black woman down the street or a Baptist minister, just like Herbert Armstrong did. You most certainly do NOT need a "man" from the improperly named "continuing" Church of God to do it.

The Great Bwana King Mzungu Bob expects you to join his cult on this Independence Day to gain true independence and return to the truth once delivered, preserved solely in the improperly named "continuing" Church of God. He calls you to embrace hierarchical church government, a system that, in Armstrongism, has led to the most abusive and spiritually damaging experiences imaginable! No one in their right mind would do this, nor has!True independence, whether spiritual or physical, can only be found OUTSIDE the hierarchical Church of God government.

So, as you enjoy your picnics, town parades, and glorious fireworks shows today, remember how free your life has been since breaking the shackles of Armstrongism.

Dave Pack: Decries the attacks of his perceived enemies, calling them devilish, wicked, hateful... (Part 2)

In this 12-minute compilation, he decries the attacks of his perceived enemies, calling them devilish, wicked, hateful, and murderous. Is this true? It does not matter because that is how he sees people who critique him and hold him accountable. Reminding people of what he said before is considered an attack.

More compilation videos from exrcg.org are coming. Stay tuned.

Marc Cebrian

Dave Pack: Condensed Foolishness (Part 1)

 

Dave Pack of Restored Church of God: Foolishness Condensed

David C. Pack of The Restored Church of God has been falsely teaching the return of Jesus Christ since 2012. With his "Greatest Untold Story!" Series in the 580s as of July 2025, he has a long history of repeating the same wild comments. He has taught 131 dates that have come and gone. Along that route, he repeated comments that range from hilarious to outrageous, and unrealistically absurd to just plain stupid. 

This first video is 28 minutes of Dave teaching about random perceived coincidences as evidence for his latest theory. Some of them include: calculator math, drinking coffee, an eagle flew by his window, weather conditions, and the date his parents were married.

Marc Cebrian

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New Church of God Dating Site

New COG dating site:

Church of God Singles

 

Is Our Favorite Crackpot Prophet A Real Historian?

Bob Thiel Is NOT A Historian!

Bob Thiel of COGwriter and the Continuing Church of God claims to be an expert on the early history of the Church, but his writings on the subject are extremely biased and ignore a great deal of evidence. In short, Pastor Thiel is not going to win any awards for historical scholarship!

In his booklet Continuing History of the Church of God, he makes a number of statements which are simply NOT supported by the available evidence, and he writes a number of things which are demonstrably FALSE. At the beginning of his booklet, Thiel asked: "Was there an early, original form of Christianity that was so persecuted and so maligned, yet continued from c. 31 A.D.? Even today would it be overlooked by most who profess Christ?" The questions imply that what most of us recognize as Christianity is far different from the original version of the faith. What about that? Is Bob asking the right questions? More importantly, is he providing the right answers to his questions?

First, Pastor Thiel boldly proclaimed that "The Church of God has the Right Name and the Right Size." His proof? A number of Scriptural passages from the King James Version of the New Testament which refer to Christ's disciples as the "Church(es) of God." Never mind that the original Greek word, ekklesia, which is translated into English as "Church" means "an assembly of people called together." Hence, literally, the various passages which he quoted in his remarks refer to an assembly of people called together by God! In other words, the ekklesia of God describes what the Church IS - it is NOT a proper name. In the same way, the "Continuing Church of God" describes a group of people who belong to the organization which Bob Thiel founded!

As we have already noted, Pastor Thiel believes that the "true" ekklesia of God will be "the right size" (meaning that the Church would be small in numbers). His proof? He quotes a number of passages from the New Testament which refer to a "little flock" and talk about intense persecution. Now, to be sure, the early Church was very small in numbers. Indeed, the Church remained focused on Jerusalem for the first decade of its existence! Nevertheless, what Bob forgets or ignores is that Christ had predicted that his gospel would be preached throughout the world before the end, and that he commanded his disciples to "Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you." (Matthew 28:19-20) In other words, Christ never intended for his ekklesia to remain a small and insular group of folks centered locally in Judaea!

Pastor Thiel went on to point out that the early Church continued to observe Torah. He even quoted theologian JJL Ratton: 

The early Church at Jerusalem, retained most of the distinctive customs of the Jews, such as circumcision, kosher meats, the Jewish Sabbath, the Jewish rites, and worship of the Temple. Our Lord, Himself, lived the exterior life of a Jew, even so far as the observance of Jewish religious customs was concerned. The early Church of Jerusalem followed His example. The Jews looked upon the Hebrew Christians in Jerusalem simply as a Jewish sect, which they called the sect of the Nazarenes. 

 

Of course, Thiel fails to mention that Jesus was a Jew, and that he HAD to fulfill the provisions of Torah! Likewise, Thiel fails to mention that Christ's disciples, and the members of the early Church, were entirely JEWISH. In other words, we would expect to find Jews observing the provisions of Torah! However, it is also clear that most Gentiles were completely unfamiliar with the Jewish Scriptures and had no tradition(s) of observing the commandments therein!

Moreover, Pastor Thiel fails to acknowledge the significance of the great Council of Jerusalem which was called to settle the matter of a Gentile Christian's obligation(s) with regard to the commandments of Torah (see Acts 15). Indeed, when we read this Scriptural account of that Council, we see that the "Jewish" apostles decided to exempt Gentiles from any obligation to become Jews or to observe the tenets of Torah!

Bob went on to underscore the importance of the failure of the second Jewish rebellion against the Romans in 135 CE, but he ignores the traumatic events of 70 CE - when the Romans destroyed Herod's Temple and Jerusalem and ended Jewish self-rule. Why was this such an egregious omission? Because, from that day forward, it was NO LONGER POSSIBLE to observe the commandments of Torah in the manner prescribed in those first five books of the Hebrew Bible! This was true for both Jews and Jewish Christians.

Mr. Thiel also authored an article titled "History of Early Christianity in which he makes a number of statements which are clearly untrue! In that article, he listed a number of doctrinal positions which he attributed to the early Church. Among those, he cited: Baptism, both Testaments, Binitarianism, Hierarchical Church government, the "true" Gospel, tithes and offerings used to support the ministry, etc. Of course, to anyone with even a passing acquaintance with the history of First Century Christianity, a number of problems with Bob's assertions about the teachings of the early Church will be immediately apparent!

Baptism was a ritual which pointed to the burial of the old self and the resurrection of the new person in Christ. The ONLY Scriptures available to First Century Christians were the ones found in the Hebrew Bible - the same one which we now refer to as the Old Testament! While some of the epistles and Gospel accounts were available to some congregations during the latter half of the First Century, it is a well-established fact that the canon of the New Testament took a couple of centuries to come together in the form that we now enjoy. Likewise, there are a number of Scriptural passages which make reference to the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit (and I would defy anyone to say that the Holy Spirit is not God)! Moreover, Jesus did NOT teach an authoritarian or hierarchical form of church governance. Christ taught SERVANT leadership, and his early disciples practiced that in their individual congregations. After the fall of Jerusalem, there wasn't any "headquarter" Church! According to the Hebrew Bible, tithes were owed by the Israelites to support the Temple, Levites, priests, poor, and to celebrate the commanded festivals at the central sanctuary. In short, in almost every instance, Bob's assertions fail both the Scriptural and historical accounts available to us!

Like many of the followers of Herbert Armstrong, Bob ignores the Didache, epistles of Ignatius of Antioch, writings of Justin Martyr, epistle of Barnabas, etc. and the evidence which they supply about early Christian beliefs and practices. He ignores both the Scriptural and historical evidence which points to the fact that Christians began celebrating Sunday in the First Century - in the time of the apostles. He also ignores the clear evidence that the "Gospel" or "Good News" was all about Jesus Christ and salvation through him - that his purpose was to save all of humanity! No, I'm afraid that Bob Thiel is NOT an expert on early Christianity. His narrative is like the fairy tales of old - it pleases the children of Herbert W Armstrong, but it bears little resemblance to what actually happened!

Miller Jones/Lonnie C Hendrix

Belief and Salvation in Armstrongism

 

The Relationship between Truth and Belief (Fair Use)

Belief and Salvation in Armstrongism

An Example of the Autocratic Model of Belief Management

By Scout

"In essentials, unity; in non-essentials, liberty; in all things, charity."

– A common view of belief in mainstream Christianity

 

There are some beliefs that I hold that are not held by the denomination I belong to. One of my personal beliefs has scriptural support in the New Testament and was common among the Patristics but has fallen into obscurity in modern day Christianity. Further, there are some things in Christian belief that I hold without reserve. Then there are others where I permit myself some reserve. While I subscribe to the idea of the Eternal Generation of the Son because it effectively reflects Biblical data, I have reservations about it because it is so arcane, therefore, I am not going to fall on my sword over it.

If you are an Armstrongist, you will be uneasy with what I have written in the paragraph above. Because in your world there is a sharply different model of belief. Your belief model does not allow, for instance, “personal beliefs” as I mentioned. You do not believe in having reservations about some points in Armstrongist theology. If you do have points of dissension, you are certainly not going to socialize them. Your beliefs are, in effect, the totality of the little booklet theology written by Herbert W. Armstrong (HWA). And if you stray into dissension unwittingly because you do not understand an Armstrongist belief precisely, you will always capitulate to little booklet theology when questioned. This essay is about how belief is articulated with salvation in Armstrongism and a comparison with Christianity. When I refer to Armstrongism, I am referring to classical, pre-1995 Armstrongism.

The Armstrongist Model of Belief

HWA styled himself as an Apostle who set the doctrine in the Armstrongist church (and hence all of “Christianity” from his viewpoint) and was the defender of “the faith.” His writing was thought by his followers to be inspired by God and God does not make mistakes. This was supported by a putative church history in which “the truth” was lost to apostasy in the early centuries of the church and was again revealed to HWA eighteen and a half centuries later. And the Bible is a coded book and only HWA can decode it. And if you did not agree with HWA’s declared theology, you were in a state of rebellion against God himself. In this model of belief, HWA spoke Ex Cathedra with infallibility. This is reconstructed from memory reaching back to the Twentieth Century. I did not do a literature search, but I would be surprised if this recollection were not accurate.

The Case of Belief in “Soul Sleep”

A case in point. Do you really need to believe in “soul sleep,” an old Adventist viewpoint, in order to receive salvation? Christianity does not have heartburn over soul sleep. Roger Olson, a theologian at Baylor University, does not regard soul sleep even as a heresy. He feels it is really just an opinion. My guess is that if you openly state that you do not believe in soul sleep in an Armstrongist denomination, you will eventually be disfellowshipped. First, you will be counseled and if you remain recalcitrant you will be cast out as a rebel against the government of God. An issue of belief is transformed into an issue of governance. This is because you do not have the liberty under denominational governance to believe anything outside the boundaries of little booklet theology.

In truth, I don’t know how thoroughly these boundaries have been tested. Maybe you could believe that Zebulon is really only part of Holland but not all of it. Maybe nobody would care about that. But I doubt that you could decide not to unleaven your house one year and yet remain a member in good standing. Such issues of belief might even pivot on the autocratic proclivities of your local Armstrongist minister more than anything else. Maybe he would insist on your fealty to the body of church belief exactly as it is written up in the little booklets. No quarter given. This approach might even be couched as “bound in heaven.”

I believe soul sleep is a non-essential. However, I don’t believe that Armstrongist theology sorts beliefs into essential and non-essential categories. When I was an Armstrongist, I was always rigorous about belief in little booklet theology. So, I did not have the occasion to collect much empirical evidence on how some assertion of personal belief might be handled by the Armstrongist ministry. I had no personal beliefs. I don’t now have a big commitment to the intermediate state as opposed to soul sleep. If I arrived in the next life and someone told me that soul sleep was actually true, I would not go so far as to yawn but it would not disturb my equanimity. It is non-essential to salvation.

The Case for Viewpoint

The Bible implicitly permits viewpoint by not being exhaustive on every subject. For instance, consider the subject of what happens to a person immediately after death. There is an exegesis that points to soul sleep. And there is also an exegesis for the intermediate state. The Biblical authors do not treat this topic exhaustively so there is naturally divergence in viewpoint among readers. I happen to believe that the intermediate state belief has more supportive data in scripture. Yet, the fact is, we do not find incontrovertible clarity in scripture on the topic of soul sleep.

I do believe there are principles of Christianity that are incontrovertible. Christianity is, after all, a thing. It has boundaries within which core essentials reside. You can get so far away from the core, like the Circumcision Party did, that Paul says that Christ no longer has an effect for you and you are fallen from grace (Galatians 5:4). I also believe that we are intended to grow in knowledge as the Holy Spirit provides (John 14:26, 2 Peter 3:18). Only brothers that are a little naïve would assert that we know pretty much all that there is to know about God and his Way – that knowledge is no static.

Some might say that no understanding can happen outside the leadership of the church. But if the leadership of the church says that Pentecost is on Monday, does that make it so? And what is the status of those people in the pews who recognized it as being on Sunday before the pulpit recognized it was on Sunday? Belief may not correspond to truth as the graphic at the top shows. Is it possible in this system that someone could have been disfellowshipped for keeping Pentecost on the right day? I believe the suppression of viewpoint by church leadership is not an issue of correct belief but of denominational discipline. It is an issue of governance. If the church preaches error, you as a follower must believe error until the church reforms its position, if ever.

The Upshot

Armstrongism brooks no disagreement on theology. Since the Bible is not exhaustive on every topic and translating ancient language is somewhat elastic because modern word definitions may be just consensus definitions, a better approach would be to recognize the division between essential and non-essential beliefs. And the autocratic approach to belief does not play well with salvation. It burdens salvation with conditions that could be classed as denominational interpretations. This topic is non-trivial. I cannot do it justice in a few words. I am interested in what others think.

Philadelphia Church of God Sure Knows How To Waste Tithe Money On Flurry's Grandkids

The Philadelphia Church of God certainly knows how to spend members' tithe money on extravagant, seemingly unnecessary purchases. There was no justification for buying a Gulfstream jet, except that Flurry wanted to avoid commercial flights and the general public. The jet has never been used to meet world leaders or spread any gospel message. Instead, it serves as a personal playground for Lil’ Stevie, his children, and other PCG elites, ferrying them across the country for Irish dance competitions and stage shows featuring Judd Flurry.
Additionally, hundreds of thousands of dollars have been spent on new dance studios, hiring British and Irish Celtic dance instructors, staging performances, and traveling nationwide and internationally—none of which has anything to do with delivering a gospel message.

June 26, 2025

Philadelphia Church of God (Gerald Flurry) - Gulfstream G4 from Oklahoma City to Liverpool, England. pic.twitter.com/XRm2yhvV9J

— pastorplanes (@pastorplanes) June 27, 2025

 

June 27, 2025

Philadelphia Church of God (Gerald Flurry) - Gulfstream G4 from Liverpool, England to Birmingham, England. pic.twitter.com/wAdjY7IcjF

— pastorplanes (@pastorplanes) June 28, 2025

Also see:

PCG Members Expected To Send In Money To Fund $80,000.00 Jet Rides For Lil'Stevie And The Grandkids

Gerald Flurry Tells Members To Be Ready To Be Deported While He Prepares To Buy A New 11 Million Dollar Jet

PCG: As Income Plummets, Flurry Declares Fast To Force His "god" Into Making PCG Members Give More Money

Gerald Flurry Follows in HWA's Steps and Buys Gulfstream G450 Jet

PCG: God gave us our new jet

PCG: Flurry Elite Travel In Style In Corporate Jet On Backs Of Tithing Members

Gerald Flurry: Elite Grandson, Grant Turgeon Trained To Be Steward To The BIG BOSS On New PCG Jet

Follow Gerald Flurry As He Flies Around The World Wasting PCG Members Tithe Money

New King of the Church of God Travels To England

PCG Turns Off Tracking On Flurry Family's Private Jet But Still Can't Stop People From Tracking Them

Lamborghini's, Gulfstream Jets, Gold, and Silver...We Deserve The Best!