Friday, July 1, 2022

LCG Friday Night Smackdown: Why Don't Its Members Value The Truth?

It is time for the Friday Night Smackdown from Doug Winnail. LCG members apparently are not too keen on "valuing the truth". 

Remember that LCG is a by-product of Rod Meredith, so just like clockwork, the gays are the issue. Where would the COG be without bringing sex into every conversation? While their own organization is riddled with sexual and other sins, it is always more important to gaslight others.

The LCG source for this also had this to say:

Notice Doug Winnail's sleight of hand.

"This is why we have been called today, to “restore” true values (Matthew 17:11) that come from the word of God. Our job will be to point the world back to the Bible,"

Why the shift from present to future tense? It's because the only restoration of true values is to be done in the living Church of God today. The job to point the world back to the Bible is not for today, but only for the future.

Doug writes: 

Do We Value the Truth? Jesus said, “you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free” (John 8:32). Jesus also told His disciples that the Holy Spirit is “the Spirit of truth” that “will guide you into all truth” (John 16:13). As we witness the lies and seriously misguided ideas that are promoted today in Satan’s world about homosexuality, transgenderism, and other perverted and immoral behaviors, it is increasingly obvious that “truth is fallen in the street” (Isaiah 59:14). The prophet Jeremiah warned that when nations do not obey God or receive correction, truth will perish from their mouth (Jeremiah 7:28). This is why we have been called today, to “restore” true values (Matthew 17:11) that come from the word of God. Our job will be to point the world back to the Bible, because Jesus plainly said, “Your word is truth” (John 17:17). Do we value that truth?
Have a profitable Sabbath, 
Douglas S. Winnail

How can the Sabbath be profitable when members are constantly doing something wrong? Sabbaths were meant to be restful and to be enjoyed with family, not constantly being beaten over the head and spending countless hours wrapped around church attendance every Saturday. 

Ex-WCG and want to share your story? A New Radio Program Is Seeking People To Interview

EX-Worldwide Church of God!
Wanna share Your Story Live?
Angela Was A Former Worldwide Church God Member.
It helps so many people, Including Yourself when we share our stories!
Message us,

Facebook: Angelasinspiration
Angela Clark Email
Life After Religion:

There is a new radio program seeking to interview Ex-Worldwide Church of God and Ex-COG members or any group out there. I find it interesting that after all these years all kinds of these programs are popping up with people sharing stories. Angela is an ex-WCG member and her husband is ex-Jehovah's Witness.

Is America Manasseh? Does it matter?

Let's just say that America is Manasseh

Herbert Armstrong and his Worldwide Church of God taught that Americans with Western European ancestry were the modern descendants of the Israelitish tribe of Manasseh. According to Armstrong, this explained the material wealth and success of the United States of America - that the people of the U.S. were the co-heirs of the promises made to Abraham (the people of Great Britain being the descendants of Ephraim). Unfortunately for America, as far as Mr. Armstrong was concerned, this also meant that most of the ancient prophetic warnings of the Old Testament for the people of Israel were actually applicable to the United States! Indeed, Mr. Armstrong saw it as the mission of him and his church to preach a message of warning to the American people about the terrible punishment which Almighty God was about to unleash upon them because of their national sins. And, in Mr. Armstrong's estimation, things like abortion, homosexuality, and the "breakdown" of the family were among the most important of those sins.

Now, although this teaching about identifying the United States as one of the so-called "lost ten tribes of Israel" has been thoroughly discredited here and elsewhere, very little attention has been paid to the implications which this teaching had on Armstrong's interpretations of all of those prophetic warnings about America's sins. Nevertheless, this was at the heart of the Worldwide Church of God's message to America and the world. Indeed, Herbert Armstrong considered this identification of the United States and Great Britain as Manasseh and Ephraim to be the "KEY" to understanding Biblical prophecy! Moreover, all one has to do is review past issues of the now-defunct Plain Truth magazine to see that he attributed all of America's and Britain's then-current problems to the beginning of the prophesied time of "Jacob's trouble" - the beginning of God's punishment for our national sins. Of course, if the initial identification of America and Britain as Israel is wrong, that means that the related understanding of the applicability of those prophecies to the modern citizens of those nations must also be wrong.

However, for the sake of argument, let's just say that America is Manasseh - and all of those warnings about our national sins do apply to us! Wouldn't it be incumbent upon us to explore what kinds of sins provoked God's wrath? In other words, what do those ancient prophecies reveal about Israel's sins? Were the issues that Mr. Armstrong identified (abortion, homosexuality, disintegration of the nuclear family) synonymous with what those ancient prophets revealed about the nature of Israel's sins? And, if we can clearly demonstrate that Israel's sins were fundamentally different in nature from America's "sins," shouldn't that conclusively demonstrate that the Divine wrath and punishment described in those ancient prophecies CANNOT apply to the United States?

First, from the Torah and through the period of the kingdoms and writings of the prophets, it should be noted that Israel's sins were based ENTIRELY on the premise that the people had violated the terms of God's COVENANT with them. More particularly, Scripture informs us of a widespread problem with idolatry and adopting the religious rituals of both the folks which they had displaced in the Promised Land and the nations which surrounded them. This, of course, was a direct violation of the first two of the Ten Commandments, and God's instruction not to learn and adopt the religious traditions of other peoples. In a similar fashion, Scripture informs us that the Israelites failed to take care of the poor among them and administer justice in a fair and impartial manner (once again, as demanded in the Torah). In addition to these fundamental problems, Scripture also informs us that the Torah laws, rituals, and other observances which they did continue to keep became perfunctory and meaningless to them. In other words, they were just going through the motions of observing the tenets of God's covenant with them. Under the terms of the Old Covenant, Israel was symbolically married to God, and their violation of the terms of that marriage contract also made them guilty of spiritual adultery! As a consequence, we are told that God gave Israel a "certificate of divorce" and allowed them to be conquered and carried into captivity by their enemies.

Now, one could certainly make the case that the United States has made an idol out of their wealth, military might, and their system of governance. It is also apparent that a reasonable person could conclude that America hasn't taken proper care of the poor and disadvantaged in their midst. Likewise, America clearly does not have a spotless record when it comes to the fair and impartial administration of justice. And it is certainly true that the United States has largely ignored the laws, rituals, and other observances outlined in the Torah. However, if the Old Covenant has been abrogated by God, if God truly divorced Israel, it is hard to see by what logic the United States could said to be worthy of receiving the punishments designated for violating that covenant! This notion is made even more absurd by the fact that the New Testament is very clear that Jesus Christ has instituted a New Covenant with better terms and promises than those which were part of the Old Covenant with Israel! Hence, it seems inconsistent and illogical that God would condemn and punish Israel again for violating a covenant which has already been abrogated and superseded! Moreover, the national sins which Armstrong and other Fundamentalist Christians have underscored (homosexuality, abortion, the dissolution of the family) are clearly different from the ones which Scripture ascribed to ancient Israel!

Finally, even if we could somehow make the case that America's sins are the moral equivalent of those of ancient Israel, we would still have to explain why those sins should be regarded in the same universal fashion that Israel's sins were obviously regarded by God. After all, even in San Francisco and New Orleans, the overwhelming majority of the citizens of those cities are heterosexual! Moreover, most Fundamentalist Christians (and the majority of folks in other religious traditions) have NEVER condoned or sought an abortion! Likewise, whatever the reality relative to the "breakdown" of the traditional family, once again, the vast majority of Americans still hold up those notions as the ideal. In other words, if God promised Abraham that he would spare the universally wicked cities of Sodom and Gomorrah if he found just ten righteous people within them, then how can we justify God destroying the United States for the sins of a minority? Isn't the principle that universal sin brings universal punishment/destruction? In the instance of the flood wasn't the wickedness of humankind said to be so universal in nature that "every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually"? Doesn't Scripture make very plain that ALL of the people of Israel were guilty of spiritual adultery?

Hence, even if we allow that the United States is modern Israel, it is clear that the covenant, sins, and relative culpability of their citizens are NOT comparable to those of the people of ancient Israel! To be clear, this shoe doesn't fit from whatever angle we choose to try to make it fit! In other words, those prophecies of the Old Testament CANNOT and DO NOT apply to the United States of America, and anyone who claims that they do is justly condemned as a FALSE prophet!

Lonnie Hendrix

Thursday, June 30, 2022

LCG's Powerful Gospel Message Touched 119 People Out of Potential 1.8 Million People! Mindboggling! Woo Hoo! Let's Celebrate!!!!!


The powerful gospel message of the Living Church of God is going full throttle in bringing in people from those fields white for harvest. The number of new potential members is staggering.

LCG recently held presentations in the following cities:

Last week we held five initial Tomorrow’s World Presentations: Savannah, Georgia; Salt Lake City, Utah; Sudbury, Ontario; Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania; and Charleston, South Carolina. These presentations had a combined total of 119 guests. One follow-up presentation was held in Vero Beach, Florida, and attended by three guests and 20 members. Thank you for your prayers for the Tomorrow’s World Presentations.

Savannah, Georgia population        145,492 (2020)

Salt Lake City, population              200,133 (2020)

Salt Lake Metropolitan, Population    1,257,936 (2020)

Sudbury, Ontario population        24,211 (2020)

Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania            301,286 (2020)

Charleston, South Carolina population        137,041 (2020)

The total potential population that could have been reached (excluding the Salt Lake Metro area)  808,163 (2020)

If you include Salt Lake City Metro area then it is a potential audience of 1,865,966 people they could have touched the lives of. Out of that 1.8 million people, 119 were guests, and of that at least 50 - 60 of them were LCG members, the total number of people touched by LCG gospel was negligible, but let's celebrate boys and girls as your tithe money was well spent!

Jon Brisby Hiding Tithing Amounts From "Unconverted" Spouses Of Members


Just when you think the deviousness of COG leaders cannot sink any lower, along comes one who actually does. Jon Brisby, the spiritual guru of the Church of God, The Eternal is now hiding tithe receipts from spouses of members who do not join his group.

From a reader here:

A new member has a wife who did not join the church. The wife called the main office to get a copy of tithe receipt for tax purposes. Jon B. had flagged the new member's account to NOT give tithe receipt to the wife so to help the man hide money. Have any of you ever heard of such a thing? Sounds like a cult!!

Amazon has this "biography" of him on his book page. Just like Bob Thiel, Brisby's narcissistic attitude and spiritual self-importance make him out to be a rags-to-riches type minister in Armstrongism. Riches is right, as members complain about his flashy cars, homes, and indulgent lifestyle.

Jon W. Brisby was raised in the Worldwide Church of God by parents, Don & Pat Brisby, who joined the church in 1959. In 1968, Don was recruited by Herbert Armstrong to work at the Ambassador College Press in Pasadena, CA because of his expertise in commercial color printing. That is how the Brisby family, much like the Beverly Hillbillies, made it to southern California from middle Tennessee. Jon attended the church's private grade school on the Ambassador College campus (Imperial Schools) from 1968-1972. His own experience as a child "at headquarters"—as well as that of his parents during this significant time period for the church—would leave lasting impressions.

After 1972, the family moved first to Denver, CO, then to Houston, TX, and finally made it back to Nashville, TN, where Jon graduated public high school in 1980. He chose to attend one year at Ambassador College in 1980-81 as a freshman, but did not return for a second year due to his personal conviction that things were not right in the church, even though he still held a personal respect for Mr. Herbert Armstrong.

He joined Church of God, The Eternal (a remnant fellowship) in 1981 at age nineteen, was baptized the same year, and finally found a spiritual home through the influence of Mr. Raymond C. Cole. It was Raymond Cole who showed him by example how a minister can both defend divinely–revealed truth and at the same time show loving and patient support to individual members. Without that particular personal example, it is very likely that Jon would have chosen to reject his "parents' religion" as a young adult, even as most of his childhood friends in the WCG had already done.

Jon married at age 24, had two sons, finished his business degree with the University of the State of New York, had a successful career in corporate middle management, and remained a devoted lay-member of the church. It was in 1996 that Raymond Cole pressed Jon to become a minister, a course that he never would have chosen of his own accord. He was ordained by Mr. Cole on the Feast of Trumpets in 1997 but did not jettison his corporate career until late 1999 when the church was in dire need of more full-time helpers. He moved his family to Eugene, Oregon that year and worked as Raymond Cole's ministerial assistant until Mr. Cole's death in 2001. Thereafter, Jon became Pastor and Director of Church of God, The Eternal, a position of service he holds to this day.

Former RCG Member Declares Himself A Non-Prophet*


Former RCG Member Declares Himself A Non-Prophet*


Hear me now, O people of the Armstrongismverse!


On this day of Tammuz 1, 5782 (June 30, 2022), I have publicly proven myself to be a non-prophet/non-psychic with non-telepathic skills. If that doesn’t inspire you, you’re reading the wrong blog.


Unlike how I non-predicted 24-hours ago, David C. Pack ignored my non-thought channeling powers by not sending thoughts into his head and he did not put out an announcement last night addressing the impending failure of his Tammuz 1 theory.


It seemed to be that all the metrics suggested the math was more perfect, because what are the odds? Peter, Paul, James, Jude, and John all get a pass and I don’t? I’m doing this all by myself here.


I am rushing to call this out while sipping coffee which possibly suggests as best as I can see that maybe today Dave might:


1) Release a longer email to the brethren


2) Give an another at-the-cooking-table video message


3) Post a short announcement in Member Services about a forthcoming message


4) Literally "weep because of Tammuz"


5) None of the above


This is now written very plainly in wood, stone, and pixels. I know who that man is. (Yeah, that’s me. But I will sometimes refer to myself in the 3rd person.) Trust me, you can rest your head on your pillow tonight knowing I am not appearing all throughout the pages of your Bible.


On my own authority, I tell you that this is the single greatest, most interesting, awesome, mind-blowing, spectacular, amazing, stunning, eye-popping, jaw-dropping, shocking, electrifying, staggering, dramatic, extraordinary, immensely powerful, important, sobering, unbelievable, life-changing sentence you will ever read in your life­…doubled…that will cause you to vibrate in your chair, bounce off the ceiling, take your breath, and give you goose bumps on your goose bump’s goose bumps. Probably.


Now it’s just all very easy-peasy.


*There is still time to sell all.


Only IF I'm telling, not foretelling. Coincidence?

by Marc Cebrian

See: Former RCG Member Declares Himself A Non-Prophet*


It's Tammuz 1 - Where's Dave Pack's Christ???????


Wednesday, June 29, 2022

PCG's Dwight Falk Warns Members If They Do Not Support The Work Then God Will Not Rebuke The "Devourer" Against Them

The Philadelphia Church of God never exhausts its threats against members for not supporting the "work".  Apparently, Dwight Falk believes that when you financially give to the cult then PCG's god will be so impressed it will restrict Satan and his demons from making your life a miserable hell. PCG's god will supply all of the needs of loyal PCG members as they struggle to survive with high food and gas prices. Will their cars automatically get more miles to the gallon? Will food in the refrigerators mysteriously double overnight? Considering the magical god of Armstrongism, this could certainly happen!

Dwight Falk Tries to Intimidate Members Into Supporting “the Work”:
June 24, 2022 
A PCG source sent the following notes. It was a short, but twisted, taken out of context, sermonette given by Dwight Falk, who knows absolutely nothing about exegesis of the Scriptures. 
Falk started off talking about rising gas prices and then went on to quote Malachi 3:11: “And I will rebuke the devourer for your sakes, and he shall not destroy the fruits of your ground; neither shall your vine cast her fruit before the time in the field, saith the LORD of hosts.” This is God talking to the “sons of Jacob” (See: British Israelism-True or False?) not to the N. T. church that Jesus founded, and reading the passage in context shows it is talking about pests such as the locust or caterpillar eating their crops, not about gaining financial blessings. The PCG ministers know they can control members much better if they use the O. T. especially that which is applying to the House of Israel. 
He said if we “support the Work,” God will rebuke the devourer. [Note: For a definition of the words “the Work” see Buzzwords (or loading the language).] 
He rattled off several blessings they (PCG) have; i.e., Armstrong College, etc., etc..
“As long as we are supporting His Work, God will rebuke the devourer (i.e., take care of us)” he asserted. 
In other words, the blessings we receive are contingent upon doing certain acts–especially supporting, giving money to, “the Work”–then God will follow through. Is the New Testament church today living in O. T. times? 
He took examples from the O.T.; i. e., the Israelite’s clothing and shoes not wearing out in the wilderness; the blessings and curses in Deuteronomy. 
“God will rebuke the devourer,” he said, “as long as we stay close to Him and support the Work.”
Notice how God helping us is all centered around supporting the Work. 
Does Philippians 4:19: “But my God shall supply all your need according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus” say anything about God taking care of us, or blessing us, “as long as” we “support the Work”? 
No, it does not. 
Sorry, Dwight, you failed Bible exegesis big time. –sermonette critiqued by PCG source

From Exit and Support Network 

Worldwide: The Unchosen Church Podcast - The Closet, the Cult and the College: An Interview With DJ Grothe


DJ Grothe is the former host of the podcasts Point of Inquiry and For Good Reason and the past president of the James Randi Educational Foundation.  While he has interviewed hundreds of skeptic and scientific leaders, he rarely tells his own story of how he attended a little Bible college in the piney woods of East Texas, called Ambassador University.  In this episode, I sit down to ask DJ why he joined the homophobic Worldwide Church of God when he was 14 years old - the same year that he came out as gay and the same year he started getting into magic. We also talk about how his background in magic and a magazine housed in Ambassador University's library helped to lead him out of the doomsday apocalyptic cult he had once joined, and why today, he says he's grateful for the entire experience.

Dave Pack: Brain Fart Heard ‘round The World

Brain Fart Heard ‘round The World


David C. Pack had to waft away the stench and admit, “Sorry folks, that was me.”


Yet another rushed “Prophecy Update” went out from The Restored Church of God last night. Before sunset in Wadsworth. This should telegraph to everyone that not even David C. Pack believes the words of David C. Pack.


Is this an outward show of a lack of faith? Perhaps he just doesn’t believe his Bible. Or the math. By just “hoping” and not “believing” what was taught, is he calling Jesus Christ and God the Father liars? Please ponder those things.


Let’s read:


We HAVE the picture, brethren. Events APPEAR close—actually very close.


Continue seeking God and doing His will, drawing closer to Him as the first kingdom draws closer. Paul’s words in the latter half of Romans 13:11 have been true for Christians in all eras, but have even more UNIQUE application for US. Truly “now is our salvation nearer than when we believed!”


REMEMBER the ever-present reality that we “see through a glass darkly.” Only one era of God’s people experiences the run-up to the Kingdom.


IF tonight passes, we at least wait for Tammuz 1 as previously thought; the case REMAINS strong. (There is even MORE PROOF Tammuz CANNOT change.)


But COULD we even move INTO IT? If the answer is yes, we are the people who “keep our lights burning” for HOWEVER long the wait!



There has been a consistent trend in how Dave approaches his own prophetic deadlines. He used to wait for it to pass and THEN do damage control. But as the years wore on and the failure rate sustained a rock solid 100%, he began to get RIGHT IN FRONT of his own date to wildly wave his arms, “I already knew it!” He did this at the Ministerial Conference. He did it again last night.


Let’s digest the announcement and read carefully.


We HAVE the picture, brethren. Events APPEAR close—actually very close.


Oh, really? What exactly is this based on? Was there a notable world event? An astrological anomaly? A literal fulfillment written about in God’s word? What is Dave looking at to give him the impression that anything is close or very close?


I am going to take that statement as hyperbole. And so should you.


REMEMBER the ever-present reality that we “see through a glass darkly.”


A quote from Andre the Giant comes to mind, “I don’t think you know what that means.”


At this point, folks in RCG should wonder if Dave is staring at the fridge and not into glass. The only thing he can see clearly is his own reflection because the biblical mirage always shimmers away before he gets close to it.


IF tonight passes, we at least wait for Tammuz 1 as previously thought; the case REMAINS strong. (There is even MORE PROOF Tammuz CANNOT change.)


The word “if” falls from the Inept Prophet’s mouth a lot these days. Elisha sat atop a hill and used that word with a captain of fifty. God answered the matter rather quickly. Maybe it is because Dave is Elijah and not Elisha that he is left on his own to twist in the wind.

If the men who wrote that announcement were more honest, they would have written, “When tonight passes…”


The words “at least” got snuck in there. The seed is planted for my earlier theory about Tammuz becoming a whole month of “waiting.”


The month of Tammuz itself “cannot change,” but the interpretation of timing and events will certainly change. Carve that one in blood, stone, and steel.


But COULD we even move INTO IT? If the answer is yes, we are the people who “keep our lights burning” for HOWEVER long the wait!


Anything “could” happen, especially when coupled with an “if” for good measure. Let me answer with less than 10 hours to go: Yes. The members of The Restored Church of God are going to keep waiting. And keep waiting. And keep waiting.


Another trick Dave uses after a long message of “can’t argue with it” and “impossible to see it any other way,” is he will slip some caveat right at the very very end that completely defuses his whole teaching. This reveals to everyone how uncertain he actually is: “for HOWEVER long we wait!”


Writers know that the last point you make is the one that sticks the most. Read the whole announcement again and here is what you leave with: You will be waiting after tonight.


The people in RCG have already been doing that since 2012. And 2013. 2014. 2015. 2016. 2017. 2018. 2019. 2020. 2021. When does it become “unfair” for God to expect anyone to tough this out?


As a non-prophet/non-psychic, I will use my superior non-telepathic skills to beam the idea into Dave’s head to send out another Prophecy Update before sundown tonight. I still have money on the table that “the entire month of Tammuz is still in play” will be the gist in the coming days.


No doubt another brain fart is coming. But this next one will be wet.

Marc Cebrian

See: Brain Fart Heard 'round The World


Tuesday, June 28, 2022

Minor Prophet Bloviates About Jewish Traditions And That Red Heifer


There once was a little crooked man, 

who lived in a little crooked house.

Filled with little crooked doors, 

and little crooked bookcases.

Who bounced and flounced from his crooked little chair.

Who had the uncanny flair,

To creep us out with his stare.

Our most highly favored minor prophet, preordained by God to come in these perilous end times after receiving a special double blessing as the Church of God's first Germanic/Native-America Gentile who was destined to rise from the ashes of the Living Church of God to be the end-time Elijah, Moses, Elisha, Habbakuk, Amos, and Joshua, to lead us into all truth about the Mayans, Jesuits, and Jewish traditions.

The Chosen One is back regaling us with his buffoonery over the red heifer, crimson dyes, and sacrifices in a soon-coming temple in Jerusalem, which according to certain COG mythologists will lead us into the end times so that Satan himself will return to offer sacrifices on that very same altar.

Crimson worm-dye, a key element for red heifer sacrifice; Developed in preparation for 3rd Temple
June 28, 2022 
On Monday, the Temple Institute completed its study of the Biblical crimson dye with a practical demonstration. The study is part of the institute’s ongoing Red Heifer project led by Rabbi Yisrael Ariel and his son, Rabbi Azariah Ariel, as the crimson wool is a necessary element in the preparation of the ashes of the red heifer:

The cow shall be burned in his sight—its hide, flesh, and blood shall be burned, its dung included—and the Kohen shall take cedar wood, hyssop, and crimson stuff and throw them into the fire consuming the cow. Numbers 19:5-6 Israel 365

The Great Bwana writes about how significant it was that he was in Jerusalem and even made one of his little videos on the new temple altar:

Sanhedrin makes burnt offering to dedicate altar!
The Reconstituted Sanhedrin performed a ceremony on December 10, 2018 to dedicate a new altar for the use of daily sacrifices. High Priest Rabbi Baruch Kahane officiated. How does this align with Bible prophecy? Daniel wrote three times that the daily sacrifices must stop, hence they first must resume. The Great Tribulation will begin shortly after these sacrifices stop. In this video Dr. Thiel, who has also been to Israel and spoken with The Temple Institute quotes several scriptures and explains why the actions by the Sanhedrin align with prophecy and the end times.

Then, in a dramatic turn of events, pictures himself as the south end of a north-bound red heifer and lectures us on innocent little red heifers.

Never has the Church of God had a leader that seems to deliberately set himself up to be the butt of everyone's jokes? Even Dave Pack, with all of his kitchenware sermon props, fails in the presence of Bwana Bob!

We do not mind though! Keep 'em coming, Buckwheat!

“Prophetic Update” issued to the members of The Restored Church of God on June 27th

Credit: NASA/Sean Smith

Lazy Lunatic’s Loony Lunation


Here is a “Prophetic Update” issued to the members of The Restored Church of God on June 27th:


The lunation (starting with the black moon that signals Tammuz) begins tomorrow night (Tuesday evening HQ time) at almost the VERY SAME moment as the chodesh (new moon), which starts a FULL day later.


This IS significant because we KNEW a FULL day WAS missing!


A lunation is 29.5 days, NOT the 28.5 that the last message laid out. Thus, it appears that events can/will be ONE DAY BEFORE what we thought.


Time PROHIBITS explaining what happens on this first EXTRA day that involves three shepherds.


But God’s promise to the little flock REMAINS EXACTLY THE SAME!



Let’s digest this and read carefully.


The lunation (starting with the black moon that signals Tammuz) begins tomorrow night (Tuesday evening HQ time)


A ten second Bing Search for the term “black moon” reveals some interesting information.


According to the website Timeanddate: 


            “Black Moon is not a well known astronomical term. In recent years, the term has been made popular by social media, astrologers, and followers of the Wiccan religion.

            “Black Moons hold special significance to people who practice certain forms of Pagan religions and who believe certain actions become more potent when performed on the night of a Black Moon.” When Is the Next Black Moon?


Okay, but maybe this is just diabolical mimicry. Surely nobody associates a black moon with end-times prophecy.


A snippet from the Sun UK reveals this: 


Some believe the phenomenon may usher in the end of the world.

Amanda Cooper, for the San Diego Entertainer, reveals: “There are many superstitions about the Black Moon and many are fearing the worst with its arrival.

"One theorist states that the Black Moon signals the end of the world and the end of all life on earth.

"I guess all we can do is wait." RARE EVENT What is a Black Moon and what does it mean?

All we can do is wait. Hear, hear.


I wonder if Dave has ever been sucker-punched because this next fact may truly stun him.


The most recent black moon was April 30. The next one is not until May 19 of 2023.


If this were baseball…

          1) Black moons are a pagan observation

          2) Black moons are tied to end-times theory

          3) Tonight is not a black moon


So much for fact-checking before blasting out a hastily-worded message to the entire church.


Unfortunately, The Coffee Kid and Pepper Boy are now going out into the garden to pick out their own switches so Dave can take them behind the lakeside tool shed. Raised in rank one day, brought down in rank another.


This IS significant because we KNEW a FULL day WAS missing!


Ha ha ha ha ha ha.


The math wasn’t so perfect after all. In fact, this proves that Dave is TERRIBLE at math. How can you conjure a calendar of events knowing full well you cannot account for a WHOLE day? Men figured that out: It’s called a leap year.


Imagine trying to buy a calendar and the cashier behind the counter tells you, “There is a day missing in there somewhere, but I can’t explain it.” And you’re like, “That’s cool. I’ll still buy it.”


The people inside The Restored Church of God buy this. They buy this?


This is an interesting admission because so much of Dave’s latest guesswork was based on “facts and math.” We already knew that reading comprehension was not a strength, but now we can add “Bad at math” just under “Bad at prophecy” on his LinkedIn Profile.


It goes back to a previous point about a prophet needing precision. If you move just one tiny little eenie meenie electron of an atom, you create an entirely different element.


In a classic DCP v. DCP move, here is a quote to remember.


David C. Pack – February 1, 2021 – Part 285 @ 1:47:42

So in conclusion, all dates interlock and stand or fall together. Moving Christ’s return even one day forward or backwards changes and collapses everything.


Back to the Prophetic Update:


A lunation is 29.5 days, NOT the 28.5 that the last message laid out. Thus, it appears that events can/will be ONE DAY BEFORE what we thought.


Inductive reasoning. Supposition. Human shield mentality. Any option of the multiverse “can/will” happen tonight. That is a “nothing” observation.


Time PROHIBITS explaining what happens on this first EXTRA day that involves three shepherds.


But God’s promise to the little flock REMAINS EXACTLY THE SAME!"


Here is a premonition from a non-prophet/non-psychic: There will plenty of time in the next few days for multiple 90-minute or 2 ½ hour messages of clarity. You can write that on the missing day of your calendar.


God’s promise does absolutely remain the same. Just not David C. Pack’s.

Marc Cebrian


See: Lazy Lunatic’s Loony Lunation

Monday, June 27, 2022

PCG: How Is Irish Dance Spreading The Gospel?


The Philadelphia Church of God has been involved in Irish Dance for many years now. It started when Jude Flurry decided he would like to try to learn it. Thankfully, having a parent second in command and a grandfather who is the apostle/prophet/king, there was no end to the money that could fund this expensive project, all at PCG members' expense.

King Flurry built state-of-the-art dance studios on the cult compound and brought in Irish dance teachers from Edmond and elsewhere to teach little Jude and others how to dance. Children of the elite lined up to join in this worldly adventure. As Jude and the other children grew into adolescence and young adulthood their skills improved dramatically. Jude went on to win several competitions.

Then, low and behold, the PCG came up with a new excuse as to why the church was funding Jude and other PCG elite children with training, clothing, participating in competitions, and travel expenses. Make Irish dance part of the gospel message! Woo Hoo! Brilliant idea!!!!

The PCG had already been producing many musical soap operas for the stage based upon old covenant heroes, all thanks to Ryan Malone. 

Little does the public know that when they attend these shows in various cities they are funding a cult based in Oklahoma that has taken Armstrongism to the extreme.

PCG Brings Over Irish Dancer John Carey:
May 10, 2022 
I think most members don’t realize this, and the ones who do are silenced due to the punishment that would come for even questioning it, let alone speaking up about it. But during spring break the “church” brought John Carey over from the UK to instruct the kids. John is an Oxford educated, Irish Dancer with his own school in Birmingham. He was Michael Flatley’s (Lord of the Dance lead) understudy. 
I give you his background so people can fully understand where their hard earned money is going! This guy is expensive! But don’t forget to include not only his time, talent and instruction, but also his travel, accommodations and food! 
While they will try to dupe their membership into thinking Amy’s and Jude’s little dance show is “the Work,” it simply is not. 
Most of these members sacrifice dental care, basic needs and necessities etc.–for this! It’s so sad! –

Keeping The Heat On Dave Pack: Dawn Blue Starts New Series On Cults


We've been discussing π™ƒπ™šπ™§π™—π™šπ™§π™© π˜Όπ™§π™’π™¨π™©π™€π™£π™œ'𝙨 π™’π™€π™§π™‘π™™π™¬π™žπ™™π™š π˜Ύπ™π™ͺπ™§π™˜π™ 𝙀𝙛 𝙂𝙀𝙙 & David C. Pack π™π™π™š π™π™šπ™¨π™©π™€π™§π™šπ™™ π˜Ύπ™π™ͺπ™§π™˜π™ 𝙀𝙛 𝙂𝙀𝙙. Many viewers have asked "Why don't we call them and/or refer to them as cults? How It's Done TV has made a separate series called 𝘾π™ͺ𝙑𝙩𝙨 - π™π™π™š π˜½π™§π™šπ™–π™ π™™π™€π™¬π™£. To help look further into how a cult is defined. For a point of reference, π™‰π™šπ™©π™›π™‘π™žπ™­'𝙨 π™Žπ™šπ™§π™žπ™šπ™¨ 𝙀𝙭π™₯π™‘π™–π™žπ™£π™šπ™™, π™Žπ™šπ™–π™¨π™€π™£ 2 - 𝙀π™₯π™žπ™¨π™€π™™π™š 1 "𝘾π™ͺ𝙑𝙩𝙨" is used. We felt that the level of professional experts & their excellent documentary of facts. Was the best way to help break down the topic & help educate viewers. While our guest π˜Ώπ™šπ™£π™£π™žπ™¨ π˜Ώπ™žπ™šπ™π™‘, who's a former a 20+ years minister for π™’π™€π™§π™‘π™™π™¬π™žπ™™π™š π˜Ύπ™π™ͺπ™§π™˜π™ 𝙀𝙛 𝙂𝙀𝙙. Along with guest π™ˆπ™–π™§π™˜ π˜Ύπ™šπ™—π™§π™žπ™–π™£, a former member & employee of π™π™π™š π™π™šπ™¨π™©π™€π™§π™šπ™™ π˜Ύπ™π™ͺπ™§π™˜π™ 𝙀𝙛 𝙂𝙀𝙙. Discussed their views & experiences, which may or may not define their churches as cults. We leave it up to the viewers to decide for themselves.

Sunday, June 26, 2022

Dave Pack: Cancel Your Thursday Lunch Plans!!!!!!


Cancel Your Thursday Lunch Plans


After only nine blissful days of silence from RCG’s Inept Prophet, David C. Pack was back to further cement his certainty regarding Tammuz 1, which is barreling down on all of us this week. Yes, that includes you.


The Greatest Unending Story! (Part 379)

David C. Pack

June 25, 2022


@ 06:53 But there is no possible way biblically, no possible way that the month of Tammuz was not the month God always had in His crosshairs in the year He chose to carry out His plan. It’s impossible…It is not possible, write it in your notes. It is not possible that “the Month” the Bible talks about is anything other than the fourth month and Tammuz which is about 96 hours away.


@ 18:34 I believe that [Tammuz 1] no less certainly than I believe the seventh day is the Sabbath. That is not one whit stronger belief to me than what we just discovered or that tithing is ten percent or that the Feast is commanded or uh the the the Law is in effect. Those are no more certain to me than understanding this Month.


The only weeping going on during Tammuz 2022 will be on the third floor inside The Restored Church of God. Outside, there may be weeps of laughter, but I am really starting to feel bad for Dave.


@ 19:14 Now, if I’m gonna get rid of the Mystery of God and make this plain, I was never in a position to be able to say that with absolute bold emphasis. It cannot be any other month. You can go home tonight and put your head on your pillow and rest absolutely secure at with that knowledge.


If there was no written record of what Dave has already said, you just might believe him this time. Who else can speak with so much inductive reasoning and supposition as a prophetic foundation?


@ 36:45 And God had, I guess, just hold this until the very end. And you’re left to wonder, “What an amazing coincidence. Mr. Pack has been preaching for over 2,400 days and only in the last day or so did it all gel. And he came and laid it out. Oh boy, idn’t it nice it was right on time?” You’re left to wonder is that a coincidence? Or to sit there and let goose bumps develop on your goose bumps because it wouldn’t be a coincidence.


The word “coincidence” always gave me the same reaction as the word “metric” when Dave uttered it from the table: my gag reflex would kick in. Coincidence has been a cornerstone of Dave’s theories going back years. Is it a coincidence that I have dozens of quotes of him using a coincidence as a biblical proof? Coincidence? I trow not.


Nobody is getting goosebumps in RCG. Maybe douche-chills from hearing more prophetic fingernails on a chalkboard. But that’s not the same thing. 


Actually, all the members in the Headquarters Main Hall Meat-Locker are getting goosebumps. But the shawls and gloves are not due to the excitement over the message.


Dave had his two “assistants” prep the Tammuz Cooking Class so he can explain everything with glass and pepper.


@ 52:13 On Tammuz 1: Christ arrives on a Wednesday night with the Mountain City and the little book that Elijah eats before sounding and prophesying again, including to all kings. All right. An imprecation goes forth. That’s all that’s all at the beginning of the month. If you wanna call this Day 1…13 ½ days starts at dawn…Elijah calls out at dawn…the Gospel is preached to the whole world…animals change…Christ in this 14 days is The Branch growing up out of His place unto the ancient David…every human being who has ever lived is reached by the saints…and somewhere in there, three particularly evil shepherds are cut off at some point…


He must be the only one who doesn’t know how awkward it all looks:


He then goes on to explain the rest of this jam-packed month, however, the other events are not yet worth mentioning until Day 1 is proven to be true. If ANYTHING biblical manifests on Tammuz 1, I promise to update this article to include the remaining plan.


Look, I am no prophet nor am I a psychic. However, here is what I know will happen regarding Tammuz 1: Either the day before or the day after, Dave will have a wonderful announcement how something has become “more clear, more perfect” than ever. The entire month of Tammuz will be declared “still a valid way to look” at the current teachings. “Everything is fine. Nothing has changed. We’re still right on track.” Baloney.


@ 1:06:52 I wanna say something and I won’t apologize for it. Dudn’t make me great, it makes God great. But I have explained more about prophecy in my lifetime and in the last 2/3 of a decade than any ten prophets and ten apostles combined and doubled who were ever privileged to know.


Only if history proves it to be true.


@1:07:42 But Elijah has come first. Period.


If God backs him up.


@ 1:13:19 Because if it doesn’t happen this Wednesday, that’s exactly what’s gonna happen. If that happened, I would just play the tape of this message. I’d just sit in the back of the hall and play the tape and reveal the exact same mystery plain again. There’d be no point in saying it again, nothing’s gonna change. The Bible won’t change in a year. This picture won’t change in a year.


There is no way on God’s green earth that Dave will be able to keep his mouth shut for any significant length of time. Never mind, a whole year. That will not and cannot happen. Again, I am no prophet and I am no psychic, but Dave just loves the attention way too much. This “picture” will absolutely and certainly change.


I say: AMEN to the Kingdom of God coming this week. AMEN!




This latest string of failed dates is sadly not a personal best for Dave. He already received his blue ribbon back in 2020:


  • Jesus Christ returns at sunrise on the Sabbath of January 11, 2020
  • Jesus Christ returns at sunrise on the Sabbath of January 18, 2020
  • Jesus Christ returns at sunrise on the Sabbath of January 25, 2020
  • Jesus Christ returns at sunrise on the Sabbath of February 1, 2020
  • Jesus Christ returns at sunrise on the Sabbath of February 8, 2020

·      Jesus Christ returns on Friday, February 14, 2020 (Valentine’s Day) 

It did not end here for 2020, by the way.


RCG’s Inept Prophet has been proving himself wrong since 2013 (Elul)*. It’s a pretty safe bet he’ll be wrong again this week. 

Dammit. I just used inductive reasoning.

Marc Cebrian