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Saturday, January 2, 2021
Restored Church of God Spin Doctoring Starts Big Time: All Is Well! Everything scheduled to occur can happen fast!
It's that time of year again when Church of God prophets and apostles start spitting out the things we should all be watching for in 2021 as sure signs that the end times are rapidly approaching. The problem with all of these foolish lists is that they are so generic in their watchfulness and have been the exact same things the church has said for 40 years to watch for that no one pays them any attention anymore. Even worldly lists of doom and gloom economists have been saying the same thing for decades. COG false prophets look at their lists and the worldly lists as things eventually happening, somewhere down the line, so they can claim they are 100% accurate in their forecasts.
As usual, the Great Bwana to Africa and savior of 99 white Americans, the prophesied end-time Elisha and holistic pill peddling diploma mill Dr. of Bullshit has a new list up and as usual devoid of any mention of Jesus Christ. Nothing irritates the Great Bobiniah more than being a follower of Christ. Screw Jesus' teachings; bumbling lists of silliness are more important!
I have to laugh at Bobiniah's #1 thing to watch for in 2021. Nothing yanks Bobiniah's holistic knickers than to be scoffed at all the time by this blog and others, by COG members, and especially those in the Living Church of God. How dare we reject his self-appointed self-righteousness!
In Mark 13:37 and Luke 21:36, Jesus tells His followers to watch world events that will precede His coming. In this sermon, Dr. Thiel goes over 21 items to watch in 2021 and pointed out events that were related to many of them in 2020. Dr. Thiel goes through the following list of items to watch in 2021:
1. Scoffers in the Last Days
2. Morality Prophecies Being Fulfilled
3. Media, Internet, and Other Censorship
4. Weather Sorrows and Troubles
6. The White Horse of the Apocalypse
7. Strife and the Red Horse of War
9. The Deal of Daniel 9:27
10. Knowledge Increasing
12. US Dollar Dominance will Decrease
13. Cash and 666
15. Europe Will Work to Reorganize
16. Europe Will Have a Great Army
17 Steps Towards the Formation of the King of the South Will Occur
18. The Time of the Gentiles will Lead to Armageddon
19. Jews Ready to Sacrifice
20. Fulfillment of Matthew 24:14 and 28:19-20
21. Unrest, Terror, and the Dividing of the USA.Dr. Thiel goes over prophetic scriptures (in 2 Timothy, Habakkuk, Amos, Daniel, Matthew, Mark, Romans, Revelation, Isaiah, 2 Corinthians, Psalms), including those that must be fulfilled before the start of the Great Tribulation as well as others that also need to be fulfilled before Jesus returns.
If I were a COG minister or even a self-appointed foolish prophet, I would think twice about setting dates or even hem-hawing about dates. Especially in light of the spectacular fail of Dave Pack on New Year's Eve with his "precise" date setting. That did not stop other COG fools from making predictions about their soon coming tribulation.
Bobiniah Thiel, the great savior to Africa and 299 Caucasian members, the prophesied end-time Elisha, and holistic pill peddling, diploma mill degree Chief Overseer open his all-knowing mouth today and make a claim that the end times CANNOT happen before 2025. Thiel's words are about as accurate as Dave Packs. Both are certified liars and false prophets.
After quoting another failed COG prophet, Wade Cox, the OTHER savior of Africa and a few white Americas in the midwest, Bobiniah goes on with his prediction:
The unitarian Wade Cox reportedly believes that the sixth trumpet (which comes years after the 5th seal and the start of the Great Tribulation) could be sounded already and Jesus could come in 2022:2014-15 NATO is forced to occupy the Middle East in the nations listed from Daniel 11:40-43. Russia, with the complicity of China, forces the escalation of the War of the Fifth Trumpet which is a biochemical war into the release of the Four Angels at the Euphrates from Tartaros for this final phase. War of the Sixth Trumpet starts.2022-2025 Messiah intervenes and subjugates the nations. …2018- 2022 Two Witnesses of Revelation 11:2 prophesy over the same time and the earth is subdued by the wars of the fifth and sixth trumpet at the same time. Trumpets The Heavenly Signs2022-2024 Advent of Messiah2022-2024 The fall of the nations and the battles of Armageddon. …2021-2022 Passover is the probable last time for the two Witnesses to be in place in Jerusalem. Droughts of the two Witnesses commence. 2024 Probable last date for the return of the Messiah …(Christian Churches of God No. 272 Outline Timetable of the Age (Edition 7.0 19981121-20021020-20061108-20101025-20111122-20120601-20131228-20171220-20200508)That is simply not possible and it is wrong to suggest that it could be. Jesus cannot come for at least 7 years from now.
That is simply not possible and it is wrong to suggest that it could be. Jesus cannot come for at least 7 years from now.
Then the fool makes this comment:
A true prophet of God realizes that any who claim prior to 2024 are in error. There is NO possibility that the Great Tribulation will begin in 2021, 2022, or 2023 nor that Jesus will return before 2028.
Christians, Philadelphian ones, are to understand Jesus said tribulation-related events tie in with Daniel. Yet, most who profess Christ do not fully get it. Anyway, after Daniel 11:31 and the fleeing (Matthew 24:15; Revelation 12:14-17), the Great Tribulation begins:
21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect’s sake those days will be shortened. (Matthew 24:21-22)
This cannot possibly happen before 2024 and I do not believe the Great Tribulation can start before 2025.
And then to prove his point he delivers another "sermon" of bible thumping, limp wristed hands waving pile of nonsense. Once again, No Jesus, but lots of useless crapola that no one in Africa cares about or even his 99 members living in the United States.
Is the end coming in 2021? Jesus’ disciples specifically asked Him how to know when this would happen (Matthew 24:3)–and He responded with details (Matthew 24:4-22). Sadly, many overlook what Jesus taught, but instead try to point to other things. Is it possible for the Great Tribulation to start in 2021 or before 2024? What about the so-called Big Reset and the so-called Great Reset. The World Economic Forum has posted, “The 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development sets out a 17 Global Goals (SDGs) to facilitate equal, sustainable and inclusive growth across the world, while promoting peace. … The platform seeks to form 4IR technology partnership … There is an urgent need for global stakeholders to cooperate in simultaneously managing the direct consequences of the COVID-19 crisis. To improve the state of the world, the World Economic Forum is starting The Great Reset initiative.” What are the main points of that according to Klaus Schwab? Will that happen in 2021? Did Glenn Beck warn against the Great Reset? What about property ownership changes? Will artificial intelligence and other 4IR technologies lead to the peaceful world that the United Nations is promoting for 2030 or instead to a totalitarian rule? Dr. Thiel answers these questions and more as he points to the return of Jesus and the establishment of the Kingdom of God.
Never has the Church of God has such a weak impotent little man leading a COG. It is no wonder Rod Meredith kicked him out of the Living Church of God and that only 99 white people in the entire United States follow him. Pathetic!
Friday, January 1, 2021
It's been a few
weeks, days, hours since anyone at Living Church of God talked about sex, and to make up for that deficiency, Doug Winnail is languishing over sexual perversions.
Sobering Signs of the Times:
The Old Testament contains numerous accounts of events that were recorded for our admonition today (1 Corinthians 10:1–11). Jesus foretold the last days would be like “the days of Noah” when the earth was filled with violence, wickedness, and human beings had totally corrupted themselves (Genesis 6:5–13). God destroyed this evil society with a great flood, but He preserved righteous Noah and his family. About 400 years later, God sent two angels to warn Lot and his family that Sodom and Gomorrah would be destroyed for the wickedness that permeated these prosperous cities. Sexual perversions were among the reasons given in the Bible for their destruction (Genesis 18:20; 19:4–7; 1 Corinthians 6:9–10)—but there were also other sins (Ezekiel 16:49–50). Yet, in spite of the warning, Lot and his family were reluctant to leave the luxuries of their cities, and this cost his wife her life (Genesis 19:26). Today, our world is going the way of Sodom again—promoting homosexuality, same-sex marriage, and other behaviors that the Bible condemns. This is why the Apostle Paul urged Christians to “come out” of this world and its perverted ways (2 Corinthians 6:17–18)—because God’s judgment on our modern sinful societies is coming! We need to wake up and recognize the prophetic significance of what is happening around us—and earnestly pray “Thy Kingdom come.”
Have a profitable Sabbath,
Douglas S. Winnail
This reminded me how when Rod Meredith, Winnail, and others made their decision to leave the luxuries of the Worldwide Church of God, they kept turning back at what they had and made sure that they had the same luxuries to move over into. These guys were also reluctant to leave on their own and make a bold stand for something they thought they believed in, regardless of a continuance of a salary or not. Plus, given the rampant sexual immorality that pervades/pervaded the Charlotte HQ of LCG, I do not think they are in any position to be criticizing others. I am not even going to get into the stories of the Meredith boys and others at LCG HQ and their escapades.
Some day the COG will learn to clean their own unholy sepulchers before they condemn others.
Heaven's Gate was an American UFO religious cult based near San Diego, California. It was founded in 1974 and led by Marshall Applewhite
"If you want to go there, then you have to follow me, because I'm the guy who's got the key at the moment"
Heaven's Gate I
Or as David C Pack puts it...
Dave Pack: Tells His Few Remaining Faithful That As They Transition Into the KoG They Will Be Unable To Sin But Not Yet Perfect Enough To Be Worshiped
This is what you get when a Church of God ministers has no real theological education from real theologians who instead were taught by booklet queens. COG leaders would never be able to operate without a plethora of booklets telling them what to say.
From #275a00:32:45 "It's not the Book of Christ. People talk about, 'I worship Christ.' Fine, you can worship Christ, but the Bible teaches you to worship God. When you hold the book of the Lord it's the Word of God. You know, Zechariah 11:11 says, 'And the poor of the flock waited for me (God) and knew it was the word of the Lord.. That's not Christ's word. So, anyway, that's kind of an aside."
On December 26, Dave gave two back to back sermons to his dwindling faithful in Wadsworth. Four hours total with a 30-minute coffee break in between.
Around the 00:25:00 mark of #276, one of the things Dave introduces to his people is a sort of transition period before they are changed fully into spirit. Sounds to me sort of like the opposite of purgatory - limbo while you are still alive. He says, "You get your penny," i.e. guaranteed eternal life, and are just waiting for the change. During this transition period you have the Kingdom of God literally in you and you cannot sin, but you are not yet "worshipable." After you are changed then you are worshipable. All this based on 1 John 3:9 and Revelation 3:9.
As if ANYONE would want to worship Dave and his crew of minions. What a pathetic group of people!
1 John 3:9 Whoever is born of God doesn’t commit sin, because his seed remains in him; and he can’t sin, because he is born of God.
Revelation 3:9 Behold, I give some of the synagogue of Satan, of those who say they are Jews, and they are not, but lie. Behold, I will make them to come and worship before your feet, and to know that I have loved you.
Dave Pack Tells Man Who Left RCG That It Would Be Better If He Committed Suicide Than To Leave The Church
I received a video clip of Dave Pack speaking to his dwindling faithful in Wadsworth Ohio the other day. Sadly I cannot post it here as Dave and his buddies have forced Youtube to take down any video clip that has Dave featured in it as supposed copyright violations.
This clip is referring to a friend of mine who just left the Restored Church of God.He was growing weary of being single. There are approximately zero single available ladies in that organization.I was also a member who was excommunicated and "marked" back in the spring, thus severing me from many meaningful friendships. The reason? I don't believe Pack is the Elijah (as many members don't, but I got cornered by a minister and had to confess my true convictions regardless of the cost).Definitely a sad situation that has developed in RCG. Pack just isn't able to take a step backwards.
However, here is what Dave said in reference to the following comments that came with the video:
Thursday, December 31, 2020
Garner Ted Armstrong, James Malm, Bob Thiel, Gerald Weston
Gerald Flurry, Herbert Armstrong, Ron Weinland, Dave Pack
Shocking scenes from Wadsworth's Giant Eagle as its citizens prepare for the imminent return of Dave Pack's creature he calls "christ." Of course, the first thing flying off the shelves is the booze! This is confirmation that Dave is telling the truth that his god is looking to see who gets drunk tonight.
Because that this store is named "Giant Eagle" and is next to the holy campus of Dave (in distance), this is further confirmation that he and his boys will be transported on Eagles Wings to the Place of Safety! Nothing is by chance in Dave's World!
Dave Pack: "we have heard great numbers in the splinters are planning to gather on New Year’s Eve" so that "God may want to see who got drunk"
Dave's boys from Wadsworth send out a weekly "Prophetic Update" to the declining membership of the Restored Church of God. This week is a doozy and willed with outright lies. these guys need to get off their knees in front of Dave and walk out the door as soon as they can!
Today/tonight/ (December 31, 2020) and early hours of January 1, is the time Dave's creature he calls "christ" is supposed to be returning.
The Church is on fire after hearing the final parts of the series delivered Sabbath! Some quick additional details are helpful as the day we are waiting for approaches:
The first thing to expect is a blast announcing the Kingdom. The evidence still seems to be (6 verses) that this will happen around dawn, though we cannot know the precise hour. Depending on where brethren are in the world, some will be asleep and some awake. Of course, there is no need to stay up.
Seriously??????? WTF! If I was a loyal devotee of the Packster and truly believed the crap he is saying, that Jesus was returning at some point tonight or at dawn, I sure as hell would NOT go to bed! But, reality should tell every RCG member that they should go to bed and get a restful night's sleep because absolutely NOTHING will happen as Dave says.
Another reason not to stay up is that Christ does not come to everyone out of the gate. In the end, shortly thereafter, at least eight verses indicate that everyone receives their reward and work at the Great Supper.
Ah, there you go, boys and girls, some of you will not be taken at the arrival of Dave's creature. Only the most super loyal will get their reward first, which is sure to include the guys in Wadsworth who spend their time on their knees in front of Dave. Men first, and if there is any space left some of you women.
Finally, recall the noumenia (New Year’s) is a “shadow” (Col. 2:16-17). Events would therefore logically unfold after revellings of the previous evening (“shadow”) have ended and the world has crossed into 2021. God may want to see who got drunk the night before. (It is noteworthy that we have heard great numbers in the splinters are planning to gather on New Year’s Eve.) Remember, we must be the people who avoid even the appearance of evil!
This is an outright lie and these guys know this. As if a "great number" of COG members across COGland believe Dave's crap and will be gathering together to welcome in Dave's creature "christ." this truly is one of the stupidest things I have heard (today). Other than the more liberal members in UCG and a few LCG members, all the other splinter groups consider New Year's another pagan day and won't be gathering anywhere together.
May God speed the arrival of His Son and Kingdom!
May God speed the removal of Dave Pack from his self-appointed position!
P.S. When the Kingdom comes, the period before it describes an Israel whose “hands are full of blood” and describes Jerusalem as a city of “murderers.” A report today said that 2020 recorded the worst annual increase in murders in American history. The increase through September is listed as 36.7% over 2019—with the worst part of the year through December not yet included. This most awful statistic finds its place on the list of reasons that we have the year correct!
Wednesday, December 30, 2020
Dave Pack: "And I knew this was the last message. And every day, this week, I worked all day, every day and deep into the night. Uh, every day it got clearer and clearer and clearer. "
From a Restored Church of God source:
Excerpts from, sermon 276:
Excerpt from 57 minutes:
Okay. Let's talk. As I've often said, I didn't really know what I was saying. We won't get out of this year. Now, what I meant was we're not going another year, but it's interesting. My words are almost prophetic. Maybe literally were, was I saying something? Uh, I didn't realize I was saying, that's kind of a question everywhere. You turn, people are overwhelmed with COVID and destitution and storms, and they're all saying maybe 2021, just an interesting little side point, flicking it out there. It will be better. One commentator and news comment. After another horror, weary and beaten down and suicides have never been like they are now depression, alcoholism, drugs, domestic abuse, 110,000 restaurants gone, never to return.
Now I want to turn over to acts one and verse seven, and let's revisit in an extraordinary way. The disciples asking Christ, right? As he's about to ascend and I'll show you, you read things over and over until it's time to get to the end. You just don't know. So here we go. They'd been talking about the kingdom of God, the end of verse three. And here's what they asked. Excuse me. When they four were come together, they asked him saying, Lord, will you at this, this space of time restore again, the kingdom, Israel, just right out of the gate, nothing more. Bad's going to happen, brethren. We're not going to see any bad people till bitter. It's just bang. You're going to bring the kingdom down here.
Excerpt from 1:05:
And I'm going to just shock you with some stuff we're going to look at here. What are the odds that we would have the same Sabbath layout in 2021 that would occur in that occurred in 27 when Christ began his ministry late in the year? What are the odds of that? You have to just think about it. I guess you could say six to one on that, but it's lined up to where the series is over and there's a final message. You start getting into some astronomical math, and haven't even given you the most powerful evidence yet.
So I began to, I'd go into Mr. Schleifer's office before I knew any of what I'm about to tell you. And I would say, Brad, you know, this, this looks like new year's night. Would Christ come on new year's night? I mean, would he? And we we go over the evidence, not, not the strongest of which I was suspicious of it before I even examined Luke. But timing itself, I said, this is the final message. You go a few days. And then there's a Maha that, that doesn't even get you out of the week. We're trapped and we'd sit there and we'd go puzzle over it. And Mr. Mr. Habboush and Holcomb we'd do the same. There's no evidence that you wait another second. There's a Sabbath in due season where he gives a final message and then he's waiting and watching that looks like you get to another Sabbath.
What would, what would be too long? And then I wonder, wait a minute. He hits a certain point and he can't Terry won't, he can't, he's stuck. It's like, as he stuck with the new year, what is this? That's the way it was, it was questions. What is this? I knew there were no more messages because when the messenger delivers the message, he knows that he did. And I knew this was the last message. And every day, this week, I worked all day, every day and deep into the night. Uh, every day it got clearer and clearer and clearer. I saw all these things. So then you go on over to Galatians chapter four, and we find an interesting clue. We know that God has some year in mind that matters.
Excerpt from 1:35
That comprise the sacred month. What new moons is he talking about? Turnover there at Isaiah one? Let's just read it. He actually says it twice. Just here. You're talking to the rulers of Sodom and Gomorrah sound like our nation today, frankly, the old world in a way to what purpose is a multitude of your sacrifices, the new year's and ancient Israel. And for thousands of years, people give each other gifts. It could be booze, it could be chocolate, it could be food and stuff, and they would lay garlands on the altar to the gods. And God says, I hate that. I don't want you serving other gods. So if you were going to come and set up the kingdom of God, what day might you come? And just smash it right in the middle while the whole world's drunk. Okay.
Excerpts from 1:49 to end
Institutions are something under a year, seven years and a thousand years. If I could have known that I could have sorted this out and a dozen to 15 hours, and then I would have been done about five years too early, or God would have waited later. So why did he, why do you think it went so long? Why did God want it to go long? Well, number one, I'll just say perhaps to humble me. Because of the great honor of getting to teach this and maybe because of what is going to come to me, it now you think of humble. I'm going to use a bunch of words. I'm going to use the word humble, uh, human humiliate and humus. So they all come from the earth here, humans and stuff that lays on the ground. At times it was humanly humiliating to say I was wrong and to stand up and have to explain it again. But I was on a course. I wasn't going to see things and you ought to at least sit here and wonder how in the world Mr. Pack, did you put all this together in a week? I heard what you said last week, and that was helpful. And I hope you think that bang at the end of over five years, is this all the answers? I didn't put it together and put anything together. I was on a train. I wasn't a conductor. I was in the second car. And at times I felt like I was in the caboose. And, but I wasn't a brakeman either. I couldn't slow it down. So I would see more things.
It was humbling. I wouldn't say humiliating, but it was hard. It was galling. I'm a precisionist. And I would have to stand up. I got to change it. But here's the second reason so that the self-righteous impatient people among us would expose themselves and leave making the most horrific decision of their lives. And if you just spat it out in a few weeks, it'd be too easy. You wouldn't have to keep the word of my patience because Christ has been guiding us all along toward a date he surely knew. Most are extremely grateful for this knowledge. Some are not. And even a few among us who are, we're not just cannot say thank you. They're just upset with the way I bring it. I could cite some people and, uh, you know, just very self-righteous people.
I can think of one particular person not here, always telling me I couldn't get it right. I'm just upset. Just upset. Could never be grateful. She's not here headquarters, but it just never could be great. Never say thank you for this treasure of knowledge we didn't have years ago. Couldn't do it. It was just always it wasn't right. Wasn't right. Wasn't right. But most are extremely grateful, but those are not leave. They're not grateful. They're not staying because they love it or leaving because they love it. Jude 22 and 23 says have compassion. They're just going into the fire. Let him just, just try to pull them back. And if you can't let them go, here's the third thing.
It, we would learn. God will learn who would keep the word of his patients waiting and watching all the way till he arrived, because they saw that big 27 and they understood it. My job was to tell you what God says, not to make a pronouncement. So tell you what God says. I've shown you from the Bible. The best I could believe me. This series is more over than it could ever be. You saw tonight and have heard for over five years and you know, 500. And I don't know, way up there, way over 560, 70, 80 hours, because we cut so much out in the early, early years. They were long, but you've heard it and you've seen it. And it looks like we might have about five days, but I can't tell you exactly in there, but I can see newminea and I can see all the warnings about drunkenness. I can see Peter talking about it. Paul talking about it in Christ three times. And something's going on on that night, which is unusual and is a threat to people because of alcohol and other things that are related. So we might close the series saying, come Lord Jesus. God speed this day and good night.
"Are some of God’s people actually going to flee right before the tribulation?
According to Jesus, the answer is yes.
20 And pray that your flight may not be in winter or on the Sabbath. 21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no nor ever shall be” (Matthew 24:20-21, NKJV throughout, unless otherwise indicated).
Let this be perfectly clear, there are two groups of God’s people mentioned in Revelation 12–one which goes to a place of safety and one which does not. It states:
14 But the woman was given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness to her place, where she is nourished for a time and times and half a time, from the presence of the serpent. 15 So the serpent spewed water out of his mouth like a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away by the flood. 16 But the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed up the flood which the dragon had spewed out of his mouth. 17 And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to make war with the rest of her offspring, who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. (Revelation 12:14-17).
The above shows that the church (symbolized by a woman) will “fly into the wilderness to her place.” Being in heaven with Jesus is not the same as being in any wilderness–hence this is not some type of “rapture” as many Protestants believe in. Also notice that the church “is nourished for a time and times and half a time, from the presence of the serpent.” Hence, this is how Jesus is intending to keep His Philadelphia Christians “from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world” (Revelation 3:10). This “hour of trial,” this “time and times and half a time” includes the period of the Great Tribulation and the Day of the Lord.
Notice also that since a flood of water is used to try to destroy the church, but is helped by the earth, that the church is NOT in heaven,..."
I only bring this up again as Bobus is bringing the topic of "Fleeing" up again. Like Dave Pack, Gerald Flurry and himself, the topic of "Fleeing" is probably one the most dangerous romps around the scriptures, taking them out of time and context and cobbling them into a teaching that will have dire consequences for anyone so inclined.
I'll briefly and again show you where the author of Revelation got his tall tale about what he "saw" in vision. He saw the night sky from which many tales in the Bible are put together. Night Flix we might say.I would add Revelation 12
The Woman and the Dragon12 A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head. 2 She was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth. 3 Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on its heads. 4 Its tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth. The dragon stood in front of the woman who was about to give birth, so that it might devour her child the moment he was born. 5 She gave birth to a son, a male child, who “will rule all the nations with an iron scepter.”[a] And her child was snatched up to God and to his throne. 6 The woman fled into the wilderness to a place prepared for her by God, where she might be taken care of for 1,260 days.
Simply put, the author saw Virgo the Virgin at this time of year (Pray that your flight be not in Winter) legs apart and about to deliver the morning Sun. Between her and sunrise is Ophiuchus (meaning "the Serpent Holder") and his huge serpent waiting to devour the child. Fortunately and right where the sun is rising, lies the Milky Way or Sea of Glass, or in this case "A mighty flood". Behind the Mighty Sea is Aquila the Eagle waiting to take the woman to safety as her baby is carried up into heaven safe and sound too. This would be the Sun itself, finally rising without incident and rising to the position of "Most High" or Noon.
What is to note, however, is that the literal view of Fleeing and making both Revelation and its sky story apply in our time and to the church literally are simply one of the most dangerous teachings or speculations put into the heads of church members.
The Book of Revelation is a failed first-century prophecy meant for those trapped in Jerusalem during the Roman siege of 70 AD so there's that too.
It is never going to happen literally, though you can go out this evening and see the tale above your head. Those who think they know and try to make it happen and those who go along with any "time to flee" are in for one hell of a dangerous mistake.
Just one guy's observation or rather "scoffing" to protect the innocent.
Tuesday, December 29, 2020
Davey Pack, the most superfantabulous COG leader (after Bobiniah Thiel, of course) has delivered a stern warning to all Church of God members who are not heeding his call. Everyone should be prepared to die on December 31 just before midnight.
If I were a betting person, I would bet my entire savings that his creature he calls "christ" will NOT return on New Year's Eve. It will not return the day after or next month or next year at this same time. Davey is a liar and a fraud.
How many times does he need to say this crap before his members and the lap-poodle ministers that stand in awe of him wake up and admit he is a liar? Can these men truly be this naive? Even their other idol, Herbert Armstrong, would slap them across the face for being so incredibly stupid.
According to David C. Pack we are all going to be found unawares on the night of Dec 31/2020 eating and drinking with the drunken, not watching for our Lord. He will supposedly come that night and destroy us for not accepting the manifestly glorious servant who was sent before Him to prepare the way. Part 276 was his "final part" once again...
Just how many FINAL sermons does this fool need to preach? How many FINAL sermons do Restored Church of God members have to sit through before they wake up?
Dave's lap poodles in Wadsworth are struggling to find out who keeps leaking Dave's crackpot sermons to the unclean masses of COGland. While the above memo from Wadsworth looks benign, it is not.
As Dave sinks further and further into madness, they struggle to keep things looking awesome in Wadsworth, even though some of his right-hand men know deep in their hearts that Dave is batshit crazy, they still feel a need to defend him.
They are not willing to put their faith in the God that they supposedly follow and step away from Dave's madness. They have been part of the system that has instilled in members' heads that to do so is an immediate loss of salvation and that erroneous belief is ingrained in them.
Monday, December 28, 2020
This is sure to tick off sanctimonious Bwana Bob Thiel, the great savior of Africa, and to 299 caucasian members. New Years Day is the day he hates the most as it is a double whammy for him. Pagan New Years Day and football.
Davey Pack the most superfantasmic prophet to ever exist in the Church of God has revealed that his creature "christ" is returning on New Year's Eve! This is another insult to the delicate man-boy Thiel because he failed to see this in his dreams.
What a kick-ass New Year's Eve this will be! Wadsworth must be so excited!
Dave Pack: Can’t Stand Smug People As He Says, I Can't Shut Up Now, I Have Learned Too Much: Christ Should Have Returned Before Christmas, Or Something.
Now, here's another point. We have kept the word of Christ’s patience a long time. We might ask, how much longer would God expect, generally speaking? It's easy to be patient for the last, you know, one or three or five days, whatever it is, um, If this is the last message. that part's easy, the hard parts behind us.
Now, I could take a long time to explain this, but I came to understand something about the month of Kislev - this Kislev. The foundation of the ancient Zerubbabel Temple was laid on Kislev 24, this is Kislev 26. And there were 14 different places in Haggai and Zechariah that stress the importance of that day. I wondered could it actually be that day, which was Thursday two days ago, right before Hanukkah started Thursday. Could actually be that day? Well, no, then we’d know the day and Christ would have known it for thousands of years. Can't be.
So, it's got to be, is it close to that day? You go read it because here's what God says in Haggai [2:18-19], “Now on this day. This day, when the foundation of the Lord's House was laid…” And I looked, and I thought, OK, you have the ancient Zerubbabel, then you have this crisis Zerubbabel with seven eyes – it means out of Babylon. Then he laid he laid the physical foundation stone in a temple back, you know, 2,500 years ago Christ is the foundation stone; he laid the foundation stone of a spiritual temple. Would he pick the same day? Call it “foundation.” That was a physical stone; we're all spiritual stones and don't you lay any stones on that stone back there 2,500 years ago until you make note of this day, “I'm going to bless you on this day.” Well, it wasn't 924.
So, I began to realize I'm going to have to give another message. I've learned too much. God's people do not know what is about to happen. They don't know! They have some ideas; they don't know they're going to meet the Father right away. They don't know the great supper and the wedding supper are the same thing. They don't know the fire’s one day. They don't understand exactly these things about how Elijah comes first, and he's the twig, and once you see that twig it's a lock. It's a lock. The question would be we're trying to figure out talking about whether or not, uh, uh, it's around the end of Kislev.
Couple other interesting things. You, you weigh them, give them whatever, whatever value you give them. Because most of most of the Book of Zachariah was written in Kislev. The whole back of Haggai stresses the importance of Kislev. And I began to [think] - it never crossed my mind – I really, “Oh, I was born in Kislev. Would that be a, would that signify (just a question) with that signify…” I mean, the odds are you know eleven to one against that. I was born in Kislev, would that be the signal to me that maybe the twig, and that's why we're very close?
And Mr. Schliefer, my right-hand man, was also born in Kislev two days before I was, a few years later, alright? And um, so I just noted that – “mmm, I don't know.” But here we are, there's three days left in Kislev, is, is there some indicator that it's around 924? Well it’s not 'cause we've already started the beginning of 927 and not everybody's even heard this. Could it go on into Tevet? Would it be the first day of Tevet? I don't know because then you have exactly, uh, umm 9 months until, you know, the devour month. Would God want to do it that way? I don't know. I am not saying he would, or he wouldn't. It can't be both.
An interesting thing, this is important: in John 10 – now, we're entering the third night of Hanukkah, I want to just throw that out there – when Christ introduced this monster wolf in John 10, the Antichrist, who is the man of sin, who's the thief, the murderous thieving destroyer, And there are thieves, and robbers, and strangers who see this wolf, and they run off; their hirelings are run off, he's the evil shepherd, and he's warning all about this and telling the whole story about how this porter goes and works with him, the only other place where it says he commanded the porter to watch. And then the porter watches, and then there's this monster coming. I will tell you, Christ taught that in John 10 and brought to light the man of sin, he was speaking during Hanukkah. So now is he telling us this is going to go down in Hanukkah? Well, there's a little under 6 days to go in Hanukkah, because Hanukkah starts in in, in um Kislev and ends in Tevet.
Here's another interesting point. There is a fast that begin, that, that, that occurs in this First Kingdom, and that fast is on Tevet 10. There's another one in the fourth month; 10th month, 4th month, 5th month. In the 7th month they're supposed to fast right after Trumpets. God said I'm not going to hear you. But there's a fast on Tevet 10. Tevet 10 it just so happens is Christmas. If Israel is supposed to fast by Tevet 10, then Christ has to come before Christmas, which might be the man of sin, who is a Pope coming “in his season,” the Christmas season. The Catholics make Christmas the biggest of all. They’re the most Pagan, the most heathen group, big as they are, and it's their season. Is that… I'm just throwing out all these things. One thing, time is running out. It's been a long time. We have to be getting close.
Daniel was unsealed. I finally understood every element of Daniel this week. It all came together – and twice God says, “When that book is unsealed at the… now the end.” It's go time. So why did I finally understand Daniel – Daniel 12:4 and 9 talks about this period – why’d I understand that right, right now? I had to explain it. I never understood Daniel 7 correctly. Or some things in some other verses. I used to think the man of sin was that guy in Daniel 11 'cause they looked alike. Well, because they're both popes and he had to separate them. One was the season, one was the year; year later. So that's important. Then of course is the basic question, why would I learn it all now? Well, it's obvious, so we can wait another year. Trying to be facetious.
Then, of course, there's the fact that the last message everything turns on what was its content. It was designed by God to prepare the way for the Father. You didn't even know, and I wasn't, I wasn't, I didn't believe he was coming – maybe his spirit would stand here, whatever. I had that wrong. Well, until the brethren had been prepared for the Father and all the things – that's what it said, “The things that are going to shortly come to pass…” a fire for one day, the man of sin has proof moved in. Until we understood all of that – had the day of Christ in the right place, and it wasn't the day of the Lord, they’re 10 months apart – we weren't ready to go.
So, content is critical. The content of this message is not explaining “be sure we got all Revelation right,” it's laying out the whole plan of God from Aardvark to zebra. You know, A-Z as we say. The whole thing, the whole bible on, the whole book. So, content would suggest this is the last message. I've asked, “What would I say next week?” The only thing I could do is drill deeper.
Now, I'm not saying it's as certain as one to a quadrillion to the 4th power. I'm not, I'm not doing that, but I'm telling you there's an awful lot of things that line up. Just an awful lot of things. Both – it's funny: uh, I'm called the fig tree, you know, both of my servants, my, my assistants rather, Mr. Habboush and Holcombe were born in the month of Shevat, which is the month of Figs, which is kind of an interesting thing. I don't make a big deal of that stuff, I don't, but it is kind of interesting. Mr. Schleifer born in Kislev, would that be because, because I'm raised in Kislev and then Christ comes in Tevet? Or would it be both of them happen in Kislev? They're just things that I would, I would leave you with.
So. If you're not on fire - and I would, I would, I would adjure you, brethren – watch. Everything suggests now, but I can't give you the day in the hour. I don't even know how long it will take for everybody to hear it. I don't know how you can show the servants and they don't all hear it. But if you're not on fire about this, you're asleep. There are some among us who will be asleep. We got some smug people among us, you'd be surprised. I don't go around telling people, ‘You're smug and you're not,” but I mean, I can look out in an audience and see somebody who's smug. You know, we gotta face like a wooden Indian, I mean, I can tell. I mean, I can tell who's onboard and who's not. Now, let me go further. If you now leave this church for even a splinter, you are almost suicidal without knowing it. I don't even know if you could hear all of this and get included if you blew it off and went to a splinter. Maybe you could, maybe God would be merciful. You heard five years or most of it and then left. You know, “Where is the parousia? My Lord delays his coming, I'm outta here, I'm gonna go get drunk.” Like those, you know, different warnings.
And finally, if you go to the world – you go back and you give up everything – you have a death wish. You were a sow or a dog who has returned to the mire. I'm just warning you. I'm warning you. To the, to, to, to the mire or the vomit.
It would seem to me. It would seem to me. That this message – could we say so very obviously? – appears to have prepared the way before God.
Let's watch. <end>
Dave Pack: After Infecting His Wife With COVID Tells His People That If They Leave The RCG They Are Wrapping Their Hands Around The Death Star
After making a complete ass of himself by declaring his creature "christ" was returning on the Last Great Day this year, Dave has been machine gun firing one idiotic excuse after another as to why his "christ" delays his coming. His excuses have been so fast and furious even his own ministers can't keep up with his nonsense.
Transcript 02:48:51-03:05:43 Sermon 273
[Ezekiel 3:16] “And it came to pass (verse 16) at the end of (a week) seven days that the word of the LORD came to me, saying (again, So here we go), son, a man, I have made you a watchman to the house of Israel...” I'm just telling you again, I know we've gone over all this, God says, but in effect, I'm telling you again. “Therefore, hear the words in my mouth and give them warning from me.”
Then it says, “When I say to the wicked...” And then it talks about what he's supposed to say, that they're going to die, and so for, you tell 'em. Speed-read it, brethren, go on down. The wicked man may die in his iniquity, but you better tell him. “But his blood will I require it your hand.”
You could say in a way I'm telling all of God's people, with or without ears to hear, I'm telling all of God's people do not go into this fire and do not leave this church. If you leave this church, you just wrapped your hands around a death star. Don't do it, it's a suicide. It's a. It's a suicide wish – a death wish. Don't do it.
But I'm just putting my own twist on this for the moment.
Verse 19, “If you warn him and he turn not, then he'll die, but you've delivered your soul. Again, When a righteous man does turn from his righteousness, commit iniquity, (and so forth”), and then you warn him, and he can do the right thing at the wrong thing, 20 and 21. “And the hand of the LORD was there upon me; and he said...” Now, look, here's what God told him, and I never understood this. Where does it, how does it fit. “Arise, go to the plain, and I will there talk with you.” So he spoke with him again! “...the river Chebar: and I fell on my face.” Verse 24, “then the Spirit entered, made and he stood me up. And here's what he said in verse 25 – I wonder what, you know, I’d read this since I was a kid in college – “But you, O son of man, behold, they'll put….” I'm sorry, verse 24, “Then the spirit entered me, and set me on my feet, and spoke to me, and he said unto me, go shut yourself within your house. (I want you to go isolate yourself). But you O son of man, behold, they'll put bands on you, and shall bind you with them, and you shall not go out among them.” It's almost like we're going to lock you down. You're not going anywhere.
And I did I had COVID. It wasn't pleasant. My wife got it and I was stuck for a few weeks. Then I wanted to be careful, and by then I saw this, but I wasn't sure exactly how to apply it.
“… and you’ll not go out among them. And I'll make your tongue cleave to the roof of your mouth, that you shall be dumb, and shall not be to them a reprover: for they are a rebellious house. But when I speak with you (how? Moving by the Holy Spirit), I'll open your mouth and you'll say to them, thus says the Lord God, (and so forth).” And then the application is explained there.
Now it's not exactly the same today. But I just found it interesting: I went longer than I had after speaking for nine straight years, or five straight years. I went nine weeks and didn't speak, and I've never done either, and I will never do either one again. But it's just interesting that circumstances threw me away from the pulpit and it was because I was supposed to really think a lot about this. I'm even on a campus, by the way, where I didn't go off the campus. I don't know if I've been off, maybe, I don't even know if I've been off the campus in nine, in nine weeks. I'm not sure if I have. We live in paradise, why would, why would you? I, maybe I did, but I can't remember.
Now we could ask why would God clear up all of this? Let's do some summarizing. Why would God clear all of this up after so long unless less he is ready to send Christ now? The picture is clear - I guess if Christ doesn't come then maybe next week I'd be back and we drill deeper on things that we went through about like bullets come out of a machine gun. I know that and I apologize, but it's gone a while so I want to be done.
There is a final ration. If there was something else to be said, what would it be? It has to be a final message. We've seen all the verses. How might we know this is the last message? There's a few additional things that I find interesting, I'm gonna lay them out, that create a powerful narrative. Or we'll say, call it, call it a supposition. First of all the big 25 had been here for a long time. We could just start by saying the twig is due – just start there.
I was shut up in my house for 9 weeks. You give that whatever value you want to give it. Never happened before. And it was beyond my control until about the 5th week or so. And then I realized I was learning some things, and I waited, and I wasn't sure I was supposed to speak again. I wasn't sure, and I thought, well, maybe the wait could go on. I talked to several men. And, um, so, uh, that was that.
Sunday, December 27, 2020
David C. Pack accuses Restored Church of God members of suicide if they leave the church for another Church of God group
If you now leave this church for even a splinter, you are almost suicidal without knowing it.
I don't even know if you can hear all of this and get included if you blew it off and went to a splinter.
Maybe you could.
Maybe God would be merciful.
You hear 5 years or most of it and then left.
And finally, if you go to the world, you go back and give up everything, you have a death wish.
You are a sow or a dog who has returned to the mire.
I am just warning you.
I'm warning you...to more, to vomit.