Dave Pack: Jesus Christ returns on Monday, August 4, 2025. I did not set this date, the material did.

 

A Case of the Mondays

Despite David C. Pack of The Restored Church of God recently announcing (kinda) that “no man knows the day or hour” and that he “could never offer you any other date,” he just cannot help himself. During “The Greatest Untold Story! (Part 583)” on July 12, 2025, the Pastor General taught that the date that cannot tarry when the Kingdom of God arrives will be Av 10 in 2025.

The Kingdom of God
Arrives on Monday, Av 10
August 4, 2025

One of the deciding factors for why this particular day is more correct than the previous 131 dates is that it is a Monday. Yes, Mondays are again a big deal in The Restored Church of God. It cannot be a mere coincidence that Av 10 lands on a Monday this year, setting prophetic events into motion, revealing itself to be the day that cannot tarry.

Dave tried to make Av 10 work in 2022.

Dave tried to make Av 10 work in 2023.

Dave snuck out early to get appetizers at Chotchkie’s in 2024.

Dave is trying to make Av 10 work in 2025.

You know how the classic saying goes: “If at first you don’t succeed, keep repeating the same mistakes without accountability.”

Flashback Part 468 – September 9, 2023
@ 1:20:22 We just learned Av 10. So, how many years we gonna wait? …It would only be true in the first yearafter we learned it because that’s the only way we could receive it.

Dave considers people who quote him back his enemies. It is a good thing that Jesus Christ did not have that same philosophy.

David C. Pack is suffering from a biblical case of the Mondays despite how Mike Judge portrayed it.

David C. Pack is not a bungling idiot. He may be a documented hypocritical, blaspheming liar, false teacher, false apostle, and false prophet, but he is not stupid. After telling members that no man knows the day and hour for the return of Jesus Christ, his carnal mind found a way around that biblical inconvenience by denying he is doing precisely what he is doing.

David C. Pack is a kid with his hand in the cookie jar, looking you right in the eyes, telling you his hand is not in the cookie jar. Instead of just announcing Av 10 with the plain boldness, Dave plays mind games by gaslighting brethren to manufacture the illusion of plausible deniability.

Part 583 – July 12, 2025
@ 00:20 I didn't speak last week because I was on the verge of really putting together something that gelled through the week.

This quote is being publicly documented because I anticipate Dave admitting he did not speak due to an illness, and not his devotion to accurate Bible study. The day that admission comes, remember that I am just an unordained non-prophet/non-psychic.

@ 00:55 But each thing sits till the idea or plan fully gels. Now, a date's been percolating since May and really much longer…

Av 10 has been percolating since 2022.

@ 01:24 Now, I'm not setting a date. I'm presenting an immensely powerful pile of evidence for examination.

Dave is presenting a pile, all right.

The Pastor General claims he is not setting a date during the introduction to alleviate the brethren’s discomfort and to create a talking point for apologists when confronted by curious family members.

David C. Pack is now a biblical gooner, relegated to engaging in prophetic edging.

@ 01:24 Now, I'm not setting a date. I'm presenting an immensely powerful pile of evidence for examination. Think of it that way. Much stronger, much stronger than Tammuz 5 two weeks ago.

How do you quantify what is stronger than worthless? Less worthless is still worthless. Dave presents broken logic with a straight face and adds to it as if it were not laughable.

@ 01:55 Two weeks ago, I said endless possibilities and scenarios have existed for when the Kingdom would come. But eventually, out of the fog, smoke, mist, confusion, sound, fury, and noise for ten years, there must arise a day. One date that cannot tarry, that's simply unassailable from every angle.

Av 10 will shortly prove to be very assailable.

Dave dismantles his own point in 3…2…1…

@ 02:19 Now, I used that to set up Tammuz 5, which was a very strong possibility, and then told you, I I didn't think it was Tammuz 5. And since I haven't spoken since then, Tammuz 5 came 12 days ago, and it was not Tammuz 5. 

Dave has bizarrely convinced himself that his aborted Tammuz 5 teaching will somehow encourage brethren to buy his stronger malarkey about Av 10.

Dave claims victory in the face of failure in 3…2…1…

@ 22:31 And then I told you, I don't believe it's gonna happen. And it didn't. And I said that two weeks ago, and Tammuz 5 came 12 days ago. It didn't happen. All right. Fine. It didn't happen. It was a Tuesday. I I the case looked strong, but I knew something else was at play.

Presenting a strong case for something he did not believe and did not happen is not a flex he should be proud of. This is a screaming red flag ex cathedra that brethren continue ignoring.

@ 03:03 Many facts and bits of information exist, but they would not cohere. If I use that word. To present a day that would rise like this, you know, colossus and and and not delay. A simple in some ways, when I'm done with it, it'll be very simple. Final picture sort of emerged or reemerged, but with some slightly different timing, and also this time with more and clearer proof.

Abundance and clarity have never been the issue. Accuracy is what will forever escape him. Being true is a bar too high for David C. Pack to ever reach.

Remember how he started in light of what he said afterward and what he continues to say in Part 583. 

@ 01:24 Now, I'm not setting a date.

Really? To further his cowardice, Dave adopts a Pontius Pilate approach to wash himself of all prophetic responsibility.

@ 01:42 If a date is set, the material will do it. Not me.

Matthew 27:24
When Pilate saw that he could prevail nothing, but that rather a tumult was made, he took water, and washed hishands before the multitude, saying, I am innocent of the blood of this just person: see you to it.

If a date forms in the minds of the RCG brethren during Part 583, Dave is not at fault.

The WCG saying, "Don't believe me, believe your Bible," is now "Don't blame me, blame your Bible."

If any future disappointments or frustrations manifest due to the failure of Av 10, RCG brethren can now just blame the Bible. And Mondays.

Dave’s fixation on an 84-month Kingdom, the destruction of both Jerusalem temples on Av 10, and the significance of Mondays leads RCG brethren down a familiar path of random circumstances amounting to nothing.

@ 18:32 …I'm gonna divulge in not too long what I believe is the date we're waiting for.

Stop

David C. Pack has a terrible habit of undermining his own words by disproving and invalidating himself.

@ 01:42 If a date is set, the material will do it. Not me.

@ 18:32 …I'm gonna divulge in not too long what I believe is the date we're waiting for.

Well, which is it?

Whether it involves eagles, rainbows, prophetic fog, biblical COVID, or a land sabbath, David C. Pack hammers the importance of whatever he fancies in the moment. Brethren clinging to the hope that “Mr. Pack only has to be right once" must have gotten super excited because this will all go down on a Monday.

For the rest of eternity, having the case of the Mondays will be a good thing.

@ 27:40 Nothing compares to this date. And it is Monday. Sunday night, Monday, Av 10. It's Monday, Av 10. It is simply a titanic, all-consuming date in Jewish history and in Israel's history. We're going to learn a lot more about it. It's such a terrible date because two temples, two temples were actually destroyed on that date.

@ 33:46 And again, remember, Av 10 is a Monday. Monday is also going to be extremely important.

He caught a scorching case of the Mondays because he mentioned it 32 times during Part 583.

David C. Pack will never learn his lesson about coincidences, but insists on making them relevant.

@ 48:05 It's the second day. …and if you this is a coincidence, then so be it. It is the third day of August. That's a coincidence. Well, then it is.

@ 58:27 You can't tell us this day and not tell us which one you're talking about. Well, now, we can call it a coincidence. Remember, I'm just presenting facts. But it's tied directly this day, this day twice in this book, twice to Av 10. So what do I do with that? What do you do with it? Coincidence?

Do not be fooled. David C. Pack is not “just presenting facts.” He is teaching prophecy in a manner that leads the audience to share his conclusion. He is laying a foundation of plausible deniability, like he did with Tammuz 5.

If Tammuz 5 had popped biblically, Dave would be crowing through all eternity about how he figured it out, while explaining away his public denials.

@ 1:19:08 But my job here now is is to is to underscore this extraordinary date that is now emerging again and again.

@ 1:28:34 The initial captivity 25 years ago and the destruction of Jerusalem 14 years ago, 11 years apart with the 7th year in there also highlighting Av 10. They're all Av 10. Years are being counted as Av 10. It says “from the beginning of the head of the year.” Av 10 is considered a year by God.

@ 1:32:04 And we’re waiting for the center, the center of a year, the midst the midst of the year. What year’s in the middle of the summer? It's not in the middle of a coor–group of coordinates of months, as I thought a few weeks ago. It has to be Av 10. There is no other there is no other summer summer a a year that begins.

Before anyone else catches a case of the Mondays, remember what David C. Pack said to start his Av 10 proofs:

@ 01:24 Now, I'm not setting a date.

@ 01:42 If a date is set, the material will do it. Not me.

Before brethren of The Restored Church of God get all excited, they would do well to remember the Av 10 banner was waved over their heads back in 2023 when Dave said he would never move from it.

Flashback Part 460 – July 22, 2023
@ 1:25:54 So, Message 460, that beats 459, is the ration that tells RCG, the house, the day. Now, it took a long time to learn a plain date where I could never come to another one. I could never come to another one. You could never. There's no way. What would I say next week? “Sorry, you know, set aside Av 10. Just blow it off. It was a mistake. Let's just keep going.”

That is exactly what he did in 2023. Do not be fooled. He will do it again in 2025.

Av 10 begins on Sunday, August 3, at sunset.
Wadsworth Sunset: 8:40pm EST
Jerusalem Sunset: 7:33pm (12:33pm EST)

David C. Pack will abandon Av 10 soon and shift his focus to not setting another date by letting the material do it for him. The brethren of The Restored Church of God will not need to wait until August 4 to catch a case of the Mondays.

Marc Cebrian

See: A Case of the Mondays

Dave Pack Introduces A New Immensely Powerful Pile Of Crap Concerning A New Date

 

UCG Leadership In League With Satan When They Oppose Aaron Dean's Appointment To WCG

 

It seems that the time has come for the UCG leadership to stop meddling in God's work and to free Aaron Dean from UCG oversight, enabling him to take the helm of the new Worldwide Church of God. Considering the complete failure of all other COG groups, the rightful heir to the true Church of God should now emerge to guide the church toward the greatest end-time witness the world has ever seen. UCG members who recognize the truth must stand up, challenge the current leadership, and urge Aaron to step forward and fulfill the role Herbert Armstrong envisioned for him.

With their testimony saying the WCG is dead and destroyed, it is an attempt to say Aaron Dean has no authority. But he does! God gave him that authority!

Now who comes against the servant of God to say he has no authority? Satan does!

Now you may falsely believe that’s what I’m doing, but the facts and the truth say different. If one leaves the Church, they do not keep their authority. They are OUT!

The ministry is not a physical ministry based on lineage and genealogy.

And once you leave Christ, no matter how small, you are OUTSIDE CHRIST!!!

Now we are simply recognizing Aaron Dean’s appointment by the apostle, and the authority that comes with such a duly appointed man! Inside the Worldwide Church of God if he was to come back! Outside he is employed by the UCG, who doesn’t want God to raise up one man! They oppose Aaron Deans restoration!

Now maybe some of their members don’t. Then STAND UP AND DEFEND HIM! Dont be indifferent or lukewarm! He belongs to God! Make sure everyone knows it! And when the Devil comes, remember how the Lord rebukes the Devil! You have a part in it! But some fear what people may think! What about what God thinks!!!!!!! You ever think on what God thinks on this?

Remember, even if it’s against just one little one, it is against Christ. Your inaction is you joining league with Satan the Devil! You are saying okay God I am okay with what the Devil wants accomplished! You are saying that God doesn’t matter anymore to you! His church is nothing to you!

How sad. (Samuel Kitchen)

Russell Gmirkin: Former AC Student and Highly Respected Biblical Scholar Passes Away

 

Russell Gmirkin is an independent researcher specializing in the composition of the Torah (or Pentateuch, the first five books of the bible: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy) as well as the Dead Sea Scrolls. He is most well known for his defense of the view that the Pentateuch was written in its entirety by a team of Jewish scholars working in the Library of Alexandria in 273-272 BCE, who also published the Septuagint Greek translation of the Torah around the same time.[1]

His father was Vasia Gmirkin, a CIA agent who recruited Soviet defectors and was responsible for the US acquiring night vision technology.[2][3] While a teenager, Gmirkin attended a small, now-defunct Christian liberal arts college named Ambassador College in Pasadena, California. During his time at Ambassador College, he began to increasingly question the religious doctrine of the university, ultimately leading him to leave before graduating. Gmirkin currently lives in Portland, Oregon.[2]

Exegeting the Tree of Life: And a Perspective on HWA’s Two Trees Doctrine

 

Symbol of the Tree of Life (Fair Use)

 

Exegeting the Tree of Life

And a Perspective on HWA’s Two Trees Doctrine

By Scout

In 1513, Ponce de León bummed around what would become Florida looking for the legendary Fountain of Youth.  Indigenous people had told him about waters that reversed aging and restored health.  There is some question if he actually did search for the waters.  But, if he did, apparently he did not find them. He died in 1521. There is an account similar to the Fountain of Youth in the pages of the Bible.  It is the account of the Tree of Life. 

I have always been puzzled by the Tree of Life in Genesis.  When I read about it, I don’t know quite how to react.  Between the opposite poles of reality and metaphor, where does it fit?  So, here is my current view.  Done in the spirit of Midrash – the Jewish idea that the Bible is a problem to be solved.

The Problem of the Tree of Life

There are some properties of the Tree of Life that make it problematic. They are as follows:

1.     The Tree can directly impart eternal life to someone who consumes its fruit.  The idea of eternal life occurring at the beginning of the Biblical account is dramatic, considering that eternal life receives almost no attention in the OT.

2.     The imparting of eternal life through consumption does not involve God’s will.  If one can get to the tree by sneaking and eating its fruit, eternal life will be imparted.  

3.     Adam and Eve were driven from the Garden of Eden by the Elohim so they would not access the Tree of Life and thereby become eternal and be like the Elohim. This exclusion of Adam and Eve was so important that a Cherubim, a high-ranking angel, was placed as a guard to keep Adam and Eve away.   There was also a flaming sword that protected the Tree of Life from all directions.  This is extraordinary security. 

4.     The phrase “tree of life” occurs several times in Proverbs where it is not associated with imparting eternal life.  It seems to be, rather, a figure of speech.

5.     The Tree of Life reappears in Revelation.  In Revelation 22:14, it is associated with salvation and, therefore, eternal life.

The Tree of Life, from these characteristics, seems to be mythological, but more likely, allegorical.  The discussion here could be wide-ranging but I want to focus on just a few issues.  

The Concept of Eating

Eating to sustain life is a large theme in the Creation.  Amoebae encompass smaller protozoans and consume them. Humans must eat plants and animals.  We have mouths to process what we can find in the way of food in our environment.  If we do not consume other living things, we die. Angels apparently eat manna.  I don’t know why.  And I don’t know how manna is produced.  But for physical creatures, eating living things is essential and sometimes cruel and violent.  There is a dark brutality in this.  For tigers, we are just a food source.  A beloved person with intelligence, emotion, and talents can be killed and devoured by a tiger as if the person were a rabbit.  If one can furtively pluck a fruit off the Tree of Life, one can destructively masticate it, swallow it, and live forever. Next time you eat a burger, think about how odd the whole process of eating actually is.

The ultimate apotheosis of eating is the Eucharist.  We eat the symbolic body and blood of Jesus.  In the Gospel of John, Jesus characterizes himself as the consumable Bread of Life. And whosoever eats of his flesh and blood has salvation.  Though eating the flesh and blood of Jesus is a requirement for salvation, the Thief on the Cross seems to have had a special dispensation.  The humble, creaturely act of eating is important in the New Testament. It is on the critical path to salvation.  So, it is not surprising that eternal life imparted by the Tree of Life happens by way of the process of eating its fruit.

The Single Source Passage

We must consider how the Tree of Life account got into Genesis.  It seems mythological.  As one might expect, the Tree of Life occurs in other ancient Near Eastern Cultures. It occurs in Mesopotamia and Egypt, for instance.  According to Source Criticism, in Genesis, the scriptures pertaining to the Tree of Life come from a group called the Yahwists (J). These people were fond of vivid storytelling, using evocative language, focusing on the traditions and history of Judah, characterizing God as anthropomorphic, and describing God as interacting with humans. They are the earliest source for the Pentateuch.  The Hebrew language they used was pre-exilic, and they are dated to the Tenth Century BC.  In my view, they were folklorists, and this is compatible with the mood of the Genesis account of the Tree of Life.  

I do not mean to suggest that the account is just a tall tale.  But I do believe the Yahwists had a unique way of communicating their contributed content.  The post-exilic editors of the Bible did not exclude their pericopes but let them stand.  I do think the Yahwist spin makes it more likely that the account is an allegory.  This view of the Two Trees account supports the conclusion of Herbert W. Armstrong (HWA) and other interpreters that the Two Trees are symbolic.  

HWA’s Two Trees Doctrine

HWA saw the Tree of Life from a unique perspective. He writes about the Two Trees:

So, in the Garden of Eden, in the midst of that garden, were two very special trees. They were symbolic trees. They were probably very literal trees. The one was not an apple. Adam did not eat an apple, that much I can tell you. But one tree was called the Tree of Life. The other was the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. Actually, they represented two different kinds of knowledge. The one tree of the knowledge of good and evil represented knowledge that man could produce himself—physical, materialistic knowledge only. But the Tree of Life would have given him the Spirit of God, which would have given him spiritual knowledge, knowledge to deal with God, to have a relationship with God, and knowledge to deal with his fellow man and to deal with people.

I am quoting throughout from transcripts of a radio broadcast (World Tomorrow Radio Broadcast, Numbers GSC021B and T36A, no date) that can be found on the Internet.  In this same manuscript, HWA states that the Tree of Life “represents the Holy Spirit.”  He also states that the Tree of Life represents “the law of give.” He states further, “the tree of life meant that God would impart immortal, eternal God-life to him (Adam).” The important concern to note is that none of what he presented about the Tree of Life is exegeted. It is all HWA’s viewpoint.  To believe his view has doctrinal gravitas, one must believe that HWA was inspired of God and spoke Ex Cathedra, that is, with the full authority of his ecclesiastical office with infallibility. 

None of HWA’s views comports with the Genesis account, which solely portrays the Tree of Life as a means of granting eternal life through consuming its fruit, with no involvement from God being necessary.  He does connect the Tree of Life with eternal life, but he does so by equating the Tree of Life to the Holy Spirit, which does not agree with Genesis. He states that the Trees are symbolic, but goes afield when he develops what the Trees symbolized.  He needed to exegete his meanings, but there is no exegesis, which is unusual in Armstrongist Biblical interpretation. Their interpreters almost always quote scriptures.  HWA, rather, uses reason. But that is not a great issue.  It is important to observe that both Armstrongist and Christian interpreters use reason at times for interpretation rather than exclusively relying on scripture. 

HWA also stated, “And the Tree of Life was shut up from mankind until Jesus Christ, the second Adam, came and was born.”  HWA casts the Tree in a major role in the NT.  Why, then, is there no mention of it in Jesus’ ministry or the Epistles? It makes an appearance once again in Revelation, where the imagery of eating to sustain life is present.  The Tree bears 12 different fruits monthly, and the leaves can be used for healing the nations. 

I recall many times HWA expressing frustration that the people in the pews did not understand his doctrine of the Two Trees.  This is not surprising considering that he assigned it varying meanings.  Further, it is not directly exegeted from the scripture in the Genesis account.  The people in the pews could not turn to a place in the Bible and find this doctrine.  Instead, they would find in Genesis an account that did not match his doctrine. Overall, I believe there is much less support for HWA’s doctrine of the Two Trees than there is for the Trinity.

Conclusion

HWA’s conclusion about the Tree of Life is non-literalist and based on reason rather than the exegesis of scripture.  There is no explicit mapping from the Genesis account of the Tree of Life to HWA’s ideas that the Tree represents special spiritual knowledge or the Holy Spirit, or the law of giving.  I have no counter-proposal to make to HWA’s view.  The data is inconclusive.  The authors of Proverbs used the phrase “tree of life” as a figure of speech.  Later, Jesus did not mention the Tree of Life in his earthly ministry.  Neither is the Yahwist view supported in the New Testament, that eating of the fruit of the Tree of Life would lead to eternal life.  New Testament scriptures such as Romans 6:23 make this emphatic.   The data does not point to a ready meaning for the symbolism.  But the scripture in some places is elastic, and I would recognize HWA’s novel meaning as a homiletic usage. I just could not elevate the meaning to doctrine. 

 

 

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Crackpot Prophet Finally Admits His Malawi Churches Are FIlled With Huge Unresolved Issues

God's self-proclaimed greatest church leader admitted today that his Malawi churches are plagued by persistent issues he has failed to resolve. However, he refutes all other allegations raised in a previous post by someone in Malawi.

Anyway, the CCOG has issues it is dealing with in Malawi, but while we are working on separating the chaff from the wheat (cf. Luke 3:17), to use an expression, we have over twice the number of congregants in Malawi and Kenya than the anti-CCOG poster asserted. Satan is the accuser of the brethren “day and night” (Revelation 12:10) and we see a lot of wrong and unfounded accusations.

Crackpot Prophet's Malawi Church A Huge Cesspool Of Corruption And Adultery

 

Karl Kolechek reporting on the ground in Africa.

It has now been confirmed that Bob sent his Evangelist henchman, aka WITCHDOCTOR Evans Ocheing, to Malawi to straighten out the latest mess in Malawi. A former Deacon in the CCOG has confirmed a hot bed of whoredom, adultery, jealousy, backstabbing, and coverups. 

It's been verified with many eyewitnesses in the CCOG and local congregations in Malawi that there is WAR in the Malawian CCOG among its top CCOG Clergy there. A confirmed police report has been obtained verifying Radson Molowzoa had Sosten L arrested for stealing funds from CCOG.

According to sources high in CCOG this is a bogus charge, as Sosten L. is known for his undying commitment to his churches and caring for the unfortunate. According to a former CCOG Deacon, quote "Radson is going crazy-he's afraid of losing control of the CCOG reins in Malawi and is very jealous of Sosten L., as Sosten has many churches and Radson has virtually none. Also, Radson is known for his evil ways, committing multiple adulteries on his former and current wife, Patrisha Sambani. 

It is well known that a former Deacon left CCOG because Radson committed adultery with the Deacon's wife. Of course, Evans covered this up for Radson as Radson told former friends and CCOG brethren about BIG Boss Evans Adulterous affairs when he visits Malawi." 

Also, this reporter had read on Banned a few months ago that one of Terry Nelson's sons exposed the Evans Ocheing sex scandal with a catfishing sting operation, so this is not surprising news. BOB NEVER DENIED THESE ALLEGATIONS. Just pretend, Bob that you're The Prophet and everything is rosy in your pretend world. 

Bob is in la-la-land as he really believes these African men are real ministers and he's the fastest growing COG in history, when in reality he only has, at best, maybe 500 in Malawi under Sosten L. Maybe 100 in Mozambique, and at best 1,500 IN KENYA, and maybe 100 Caucasians. 

The fake dreams and Philadelphia mantel delusions have put Bobby over the Rainbow 🌈 in the land of make-believe. 

More news to come on the Malawian Messup and Bob Thiels Continuing Church of WITCHDOCTORs.  

Crackpot Bob And His Demon Problem

 

Crackpot Bob can’t stand another Church of God stealing the spotlight from him. No Church of God in human history has ever been as magnificent as the so-called "Continuing" Church of God. The world remains in constant awe of its existence.
Sheldon Monson’s recent demonic possession of a summer camp attendee shifted attention away from the original demon slayer and his sidekicks. Crackpot Bob published the same letter we received about the summer camp possession and immediately followed it with this:

Perhaps I should add that we in the CCOG had a demon possession issue in Africa recently, and the demon was cast out...

This is what Crackpot Bob is referring to. This is not an isolated incident, as his African churches are filled with people plagued by "demons." He seems to attract them. Apparently, he views their presence as a sure sign he’s doing something right. Armstrongism taught us this concept: the more you follow God, the more demons and Satan will attack you.

Pastor Dr Bob,
Greetings from Malawi.
Yes I commanded demons to leave and they left the lady and go. But this is not my first time to command demons to leave. When demons caught my daughter in school where they were learning in Kadika secondary school. I found when pastor of SDA was praying for them but demons didn’t go. And I reached and commanded them to leave, they went and the daughter remained safe. The other day when we went to preach in certain home I and Richard Opiyo from Kobwai. We found a man who was a witchcraft and was using demons to do miracles. When we reached in that home, that man ran away and told his brother that he can’t come where we are because the demons he was having are afraid of us because we are holy Men. And so many. That’s the reason why I noticed very first demons in her. Its good that they left her and the lady remained safe. …
Evans

LCG: Back On Its Favorite Topic - The Gays...

 

Where would the Living Church of God be without scapegoating gay people as the source of all the world's problems?
For decades, Rod Meredith was fixated on an anti-gay crusade. Something in his early life triggered an obsession that bled into every letter, article, and broadcast. Perhaps it stemmed from his idol, Herbert Armstrong, who once remarked that Meredith seemed effeminate at times. Meredith faced this issue a lot while growing up took up boxing, becoming a "Golden Gloves" champion—a fact he never let anyone forget. Overcompensation? Maybe. His relentless hatred was often so intense it made him look utterly foolish.
Then there's Bob Thiel, who seizes every chance to rant about gay people causing one catastrophe after another. His eyes practically gleam with visions of his god casting them into a lake of fire or rounding them up into concentration camps in the Midwest or Canada.
Yet, while Thiel foams at the mouth and flails his arms and wrists, he ignores the mess in his own backyard. One of his African leaders abandoned his wife and is committing adultery. Others dabble in witchcraft, while some cozy up to young women to "comfort" them on their travels as they are proclaiming a witness in a few places in Africa.

What will Bob Thiel say when an earthquake inevitably strikes his home in Arroyo Grande, California? Will he call it divine punishment from his god or a test of his unwavering faith? And what about the Living Church of God? When a hurricane or some other disaster wreaks havoc in Charlotte, will they claim it’s God’s wrath for their mistreatment of members or a trial to prove their loyalty?

This is why no one takes these delusional men seriously anymore. Decades of lies, failed prophecies, and absurd biblical interpretations aimed at others—while their own lives and churches fester with depravity—render their words meaningless. These clowns will never deliver a powerful message or a credible warning to the world. Even their supposed god seems to mock their hypocrisy!

If I were them, I’d keep my mouth shut; their track record is already a perfect 100% failure. They constantly need scapegoats to prop up their self-righteous egos.

Armstrongist ministers should clean their own house before casting blame. The corruption and degeneracy in the Church of God’s ministry could outshine any Hollywood scandal!

Sobering Signs of the Times: World events and trends increasingly resemble biblical situations where God dramatically intervened in human affairs. God sent a flood to destroy a world that had become filled with violence, wickedness, and evil (Genesis 6). Some 400 years later, God obliterated Sodom and Gomorrah because of their perverted and depraved behaviors (Genesis 19; Ezekiel 16:49–50). Lot and his family, although warned, were reluctant to leave because they had grown accustomed to and tolerant of the evil around them. Today, the same sinful behavior that the Bible describes as an “abomination” to God is accepted and promoted, such as homosexuality, same-sex marriage, and transgenderism (Leviticus 18:22–23; Deuteronomy 22:5). We are also told that biblical examples are recorded for our admonition today (1 Corinthians 10:11). We need to wake up and come out of the ways of this world so we can be in the coming Kingdom of God.
Have a profitable Sabbath,
Douglas S. Winnail