Saturday, April 15, 2023

"The trees may be blooming in Wadsworth on this Sabbath morning, but The Restored Church of God is not."


 

What Now?

 

Pastor General David C. Pack experienced another bitter lesson on Wednesday. Making noises with your mouth does not equate to fulfilling Bible prophecy.

 

Jesus Christ and the Kingdom of God did not arrive on April 12 at 12:05 PM ET. The trees may be blooming in Wadsworth on this Sabbath morning, but The Restored Church of God is not.

 

To the casual observer, this latest embarrassment could be viewed as just another Dave Pack failure. But this was much bigger than that. What crumbled as the sun set on Wednesday was months of toil pointing to an Abib fulfillment. April 1, 5, and 7 were expendable. Those were only manifestations of Dave’s god getting elbow room for the main event: Abib 21, the Seventh Day of Unleavened Bread.

 

Abib 1 became the focus after a botched Thanksgiving/Christmas/New Year’s “in the midst of the years” debacle starting in Part 414 on January 14, 2023. It later moved to Iyar 1, but then settled to Abib 21. Abib has been the cornerstone of Dave’s musings for months.

 

After Wednesday’s failure, members of The Restored Church of God must throw out a lot of “knowledge.” Think of this as a Mount Everest of undeniable facts. Enjoy chewing on this Stone-Cold Math.

 

21 Parts across 88 days. 33 hours and 47 minutes.

All wasted effort as of April 12 @ 12:05 PM ET

 

Those who appropriately ignored Dave’s messages will not need their prophetic framework to be deprogrammed. Those who aptly refused to take notes need not worry about purging those pages from their journal.

 

The only sounds heard from Headquarters for the past 3 ½ days are the crickets. Insects have more wisdom than David C. Pack. They are not so filled with pompous vanity that they think if they rub their legs together a few days in a row, that will make prophecy in Habakkuk 2:3 and Revelation 10:7 happen.

 

The silence coming from RCG is because David C. Pack has to start from scratch. His Hail Mary of relocating the Last Great Day to the Days of Unleavened Bread to make the First Kingdom one year fumbled in the endzone. Never give Dave the ball.

 

 

The seventh “days of Dave’s voice” was posted on Tuesday before his personal nightmare began. Nothing as of yet has followed after this, so this stands as the last communiqué of Pastor General David C. Pack of The Restored Church of God.

 

Prophecy Update #4 – Tuesday, April 11, 2023

 

Greetings brethren! If you have not heard Part 434 given yesterday, listen as soon as possible before reading this announcement!

 

A big understanding has come clear. The picture is better than we believed. Not only will all saints be here, but the presence of 100B+ people at the Kingdom of God demands a New Heavens and New Earth! This finally became obvious. In fact, logistics alone require something “new,” but that is far from the only proof. Here are a few points to consider:

 

• No one could assert, “all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation” in II Pet. 3:4 during Christ’s Kingdom. Just think of the complete overhaul of society, infrastructure and the instantaneous population increase! The New Heavens and New Earth come as a thief in the night, catching these scoffers completely by surprise. They could not be scoffing about the Kingdom of God from within it. (But it does present a question as to what triggered such scoffing before the Kingdom of God.) Verses 15-16 shows Paul also spoke about this day in all his epistles.

 

• Heb. 1:10-2:5 is a perfect example. Paul described the heavens folding up as a garment in context of escaping! Also think of I Thes. 1:10, 2:19, 3:13 and 5:23 just in this one.

 

• Luke 21:33-36 further confirms this! “That day” when the New Heavens and New Earth arrive (these two terms are tied all three times in the Olivet prophecy) is referred to as coming like a “snare” when many stand before Christ and escape. (Of course many, many more points could be included.)

 

• If all complete saints are here—including Moses, Elijah, Daniel, Samuel, David and so many others—key administrative roles can be much more easily filled.

 

The arrival of one year for the first mustard seed measure of the Kingdom of God has forced a renaissance of thinking in ways that continue to be wonderful. But another lingering question is whether the Kingdom of God could arrive without an announcement, and is there “something” before it is here?—some kind of “swift witness” (Mal. 3:5) or “short (speedy, concise) word” (Rom. 9:28) by Elijah first? A yet further question is exactly how do the last go first? I believe I know the answer to these questions, but I don’t wish to say more until I am certain of what it would be. I do know enough to say this: Do not be surprised if nothing happens tonight. I may or may not give a brief message tomorrow.

 

In the meantime, be prepared to guard the rest of Abib.

 

David C. Pack

 

 

(* Jim and Andy, please invest in Grammarly. It hates your postings.)

 

Dave always has his verbal architects draw him a trapdoor for a quick escape, no matter how wildly he waves his arms. The "guard Abib" comment is a way of dragging out the expectations of the brethren for one more week without having to create new content.

 

The end of Abib/Nisan and the beginning of Iyar is at sunset on Friday, April 21, at 8:12 PM ET. Even though Dave already walked away from this, if I were his lawyer, I would argue that his Death Wish Self-Curse does not officially begin until then, so anything before then would be premature.

 

Part 423 – February 25, 2023

@ 29:41 So, I wanna state one last time, unequivocally, and I’ll just absolutely die on this ground. This is the hill I die on. It is impossible that Abib does not close with the Day of the Lord. Impossible. It’s unbiblical.

 

A lot was riding on Abib 21.

 

Part 426 – March 4, 2023

@ 42:23 I know that the way has been prepared, and we all understand, and if we had to wait ten years, or until I died, no one will ever tell me we don’t have this exactly right.

 

Tempting God is a warning for us little people and Jesus Christ, but not for Some Great One David Passed Over. And you thought Daredevil was the man without fear.

 

“The picture is better than we believed.”

 

It is always better after he is done talking and after nothing happens.

 

If Dave speaks today, that will be part of the spin. There is one week remaining in Abib. RCG is still on track and on time. All is well. In fact, the picture is more perfect, the math fits better, and the Super Metrics are even more super duper.

 

Initiate a solitary slow clap if Dave has an entire message prepared.

 

The indicator of how at a loss Dave is will be determined when he sends Meat Puppet or Meat Shield to the lectern to stammer their way through Stupid Comments to pacify the pitchfork holders. The next rank of disaster would be if Bradford Schleifer had to say something. If that happens, look for emergency exits because the third floor is on fire.

 

The Green Envelope numbers should have rolled in from the field, determining how "blessed" the brethren felt during the Days of Unleavened Bread. Dave was spotted pacing the front gate this week, waiting for FedEx to drop off the overnight envelopes.

 

If someone in CAD or BAO wants to “accidentally” forward me the offering numbers, your anonymity will be assured. Even a percentage compared to last year would be extremely helpful. Also, please Whoopsie Daisy the current attendance numbers while you are at it because people keep asking me.

 

 

“The Greatest Untold Story!” Series is private interpretation run amok. The unbridled hubris of David C. Pack fuels the lie that he is an apostle prophesying the Mystery of God. Wednesday proved his god had forsaken him, leaving him to drown in the sea of his own delusion.

 

As far as I can see, it appears to be that what is impossibly inarguable is almost certainly probable, if not likely, as I have suspicioned for years, and the men around me all agree.

 

So, what now?

 

Until that first person stands up in the Main Hall and walks out while he is speaking, things will continue in The Restored Church of God as they have. If the hirelings continue to enable, and the brethren continue to attend, and the money keeps rolling in…why stop? The prophecy machine is purring like a kitten.

 

Apostolic Narcissist King David Passed Over has a learning disability further complicated by a host of mental illnesses. It means he will not learn his lesson but is doomed to repeat this into the vanishing point. And the brethren agree to be taken on the ride.

 

This is just how things are in The Restored Church of God.


Marc Cebrian

See: What Now?

"fornication, masturbation, pornography, fantasy sex, sexting, and same-sex relations"

 


Imagine if you will, that it's Sabbath morning and you finally have all the kids dressed and snacks packed as you head out for your one-hour drive to church services in the Odd Fellows Lodge in the neighboring city. Being that it is post-Passover time you are looking forward to hearing a sermon about how the works of Jesus on the cross and his resurrection have made you a new person covered by grace and mercy.

Then you finally arrive at church and open up your briefcase balanced on your lap and pull out your Moffatt Bible and notebook as you expect to take copious notes for your edification late in the week when your spiritual reserves have been depleted.

This week you are doubly blessed on this Sabbath day as the glorious leader of your church is the guest speaker! Woo hoo! The long drive will be worth it!

You notice a canvas graphic hanging on the wall behind the podium with creases in it as if it had just been unfolded and taped to the wall. It is another indication of amazing things to be heard over the next hour and a half.

After three rousings hymns and a five-minute opening prayer asking for Father in heaven to bless the preacher so that his words may edify us so we can inculcate the prophet's words, you settle in as a local elder gives a 20-minute sermonette on why it is important that real men do not swear black socks with their dark suits. You look down and see your black socks and subconsciously reach down and pull your pants leg down as much as you can to cover them. Red-faced you slide your feet as far back under the metal folding chair as you can looking forward to the end of the sermonette. 

Then, mercifully he stops and it's time to sing another rousing hymn and then sit back down for announcements about local fundraisers and fruit sales that desperately are being done to raise money to send to Africa. Then it's time for the wife of the local minister to sing special music in her high-pitched off-tune voice that grates on your nerves till you want to scream, yet you dutifully smile when she is done.

Then the moment you have been waiting for has arrived and the church leader is about to speak! He jumps from his seat and bounds on stage with his big thick Bible and a few of his newly released books he has written. His arms begin to raise and his hands start flapping as he stutters and clears his throat numerous times.

Then he starts speaking about fornication, masturbation, pornography, fantasy sex, sexting, and same-sex relations. Your else roll back in your head and your butt suddenly starts getting numb. You look at your watch and you still have one hour and twenty-five minutes yet to go and immediately know that Jesus won't be mentioned much, if at all.

You write at the top of your note page "The Seventh Commandment" and start taking notes. The sub-headings are starting to fill up several pages.

The Seventh Commandment teaches that people are not to commit adultery. Why? 
 
What is adultery? 
 
What about fornication, masturbation, pornography, fantasy sex, sexting, and same-sex relations? 
 
Are there societal costs for violating the 7th Commandment? 
 
What about crime and disease? 
 
What did Jesus say about marriage, adultery, and divorce? 
 
Is there such a thing as spiritual adultery? 
 
Were Sodom and Gomorrah destroyed for their abominations and going after ‘strange flesh’? 
 
Was Sodom also for pride? 
 
Do those destroyed in Sodom and Gomorrah have any possible hope? 
 
Does the Bible condemn cross-dressing? 
 
Does the Bible teach the condoning of homosexual and lesbian relationships? 
 
Could marriage be a God-plan relationship teaching us about Christ and His church? 
 
Was adultery called a sin before God wrote the Ten Commandments down on Mt. Sinai? 
 
Should all that breath be concerned about avoiding sexual immorality? 
 
Were problems with sexual immorality prophesied for the last days? 
 
Is marriage supposed to be about love and not lust? What about faithfulness?

Finally, the speaker is close to the end of his sermon and you make a note in your notebook and show it to your wife...Why hasn't he spoken about Jesus and what was accomplished?

The sermon finally ends and there's a final hymn about dashing the skulls of people against the rocks and a gratuitous final prayer is said. By this point, you jump out of your seat to try and get circulation back into your sore butt. You turn around and put your Moffatt Bible back in the briefcase and snap it shut, then gather the kid's toys and blanket up from the floor and put it back in the bag. You and your wife both look wearily at each other and silently agree to shake a few hands and take off for your drive back home.

As you settle into the car and you pull onto the highway the snack bag comes out filled with dried beef sandwiches on organic whole wheat bread, organic grapes, bananas, and a few fig bars. As you drive you silently wonder how much of that sex talk your kids had absorbed.

You finally arrive home as the sun is starting to set. You soon dial the local pizza joint and order a pizza, turn on the television, and settle in to decompress.

Thus ends a typical Sabbath in the improperly named "continuing" Church of God.


 

Friday, April 14, 2023

Remember this Bob Thiel??????? Bob Thiel's African Representative Sentenced to Life in Prison for Shooting at Police When Being Arrested for Fraud


This was posted WEDNESDAY, APRIL 23, 2014. Bob's church has been corrupt from the start! 



Bob Thiel's new church is off to a rollicking start! One of his minister/representatives has been sentenced to life in prison for a shoot-out with police and for fraud.

Bob was such a good evaluator of character that he brought on George Obunga Otieno as his representative in the African region. Bob did not do due diligence in vetting the guy.  Otieno scammed another COG prior to joining up with Thiel.

I guess that "double dose" of the holy spirit did not do much to open Thiel's eyes.


James Malm is reporting the following saga of the Thiel/Otieno situation


About a year ago I wrote to Bob Thiel warning him about fraud in east Africa particularly in Kenya.  He responded thanking me and saying that he was being very careful, then he took on George Obunga Otieno as his rep in the region.  
 
George was later found to be a scammer and Bob was invited to hold his Feast with Richard Trevor and Bill Goff’s group; because of the lateness of the time, and for economic reasons due to the G. Otieno situation. 

Richard Trevor informs me that:   

We knew it first, [Actually I knew it first and warned Bob] and with much persuasion, convinced Bob that he wasn’t trustable.  The man (George Obunga Otieno) is now in jail with a life sentence for engaging in a shootout with the police when they came to arrest him for other fraudulent activities.  He was sentenced within weeks.  The US could take a lesson.  AND, the fellow’s cousin, Polycap Ogalo, is (was?) [employed] with the Police there, but has been conspicuous by his absence since we discovered his [He also tried to defraud these groups] fraud with us.  He might’ve been fired, but all who know of the situation are mum. 

The man (George Obunga Otieno) scammed James Russell before Bob, taking a large amount to fund a feast for him (CoG in Truth).  Though he used a different name (that’s common in Africa) we suspected he was one-and-the-same fellow by his mailing address and by using another person to enquire about the FoT in Homa Bay, we realized it was a ruse.  It never happened.  That was to be Bob’s site, and we had been working on one nearby, but thought it better to merge the two [allowing Bob to join the other folks site after his letdown with George].   

Bob Thiel recently made a trip to Kenya partially funded by Richard Trevor and Bill Goff to hold a COG convention.   
That was our interest, to have some credentialed person meet and evaluate the situation.  That’s why we helped with the funding of this [Bob's] trip.  Earlier, we intended that the Kenyans host their own elders’ convention, so that they could meet and assess the genuinety of each other, but when Bob indicated he was intending to go there, that proved the better option, and less costly.   Quite a large number of elders did attend.
Malm then points out Thiel's claim that he has 20 some congregations in East Africa is not true.  This is something that many of us have suspected all along.

I am informed that these groups will continue with the same foreign sponsors as before, and that the purpose of this meet was a “get to know your neighbor event”, to fight any possible future scams.  There are several independent groups involved in the meetings and Thiel’s claim that  CCOG currently has over 20 congregations in East Africa, with more expected soon.” is purely in his own imagination; unless he is attempting a takeover of these other groups.   

In fact Thiel may have attempted to entice these various groups to join CCOG [hence the 20 congregations claim]; which is why Bill Goff and other COG leaders have now rushed to Kenya to asses the situation.  The meetings were meant as cooperation against fraud: Did Thiel  use their money to go to Kenya to try and poach their congregations?  

It was Bob who convinced them to partially fund and send him.   “we intended that the Kenyans host their own elders’ convention, so that they could meet and assess the genuinety of each other, but when Bob indicated he was intending to go there, that proved the better option, and less costly.”  Now that Bill Goff had to rush to Kenya anyway,  it does not appear much cheaper than him going in the first place.

Angry African Minister Of Bob Thiel Says: "Once you come I will arrest you completely if you think am joking try."




Below is a letter one of Bob Thiel's African "ministers" sent to Terry Nelson. Apparently, he has watched the Great Bwana and Chief Overseer with his anger issues and feels he can do the same thing. 

Such a loving attitude! Bob has trained him well!

"Radson Mulozowa is very mad that the entire CCOG in Malawi has also left because of his whoring after Women and Demon Magic" 
 

 
From: RADSON MULOZOWA <radsonmulozowa@_____>
Date: Tue, Apr 11, 2023, 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: A Demonic man
To: Terry Nelson <vitalogydoc@______>


A Dog like you you can't do anything to me 
 
A prostitute like you 
 
Can a demon lead church of God 
 
Foolish person who is making Priscilla suffering because of loans 
 
Plan your coming and see what will happen to you 
 
You are joking terry am not a fool like you who is buy brethren with money not the truth 
 
Am tired with you and all your agents in Malawi are going to testify about all the videos you have been sending against me 
 
If foster is saying the truth why is he hiding from police to answer the videos 
 
I will not tolerate the foolish move you are doing 
 
Enough is enough 
 
Shame on you a foolish terry 
 
You are going to regret soon

That's why Dr Bob didn't ordained you as a minister because of demons operating in you  

Then in another email, Radson sent this: 


Let me tell you that you will never come to Malawi . Once you come I will arrest you completely if you think am joking try. 
 
May children are suffering because of a hyena like you who come to Malawi as a minister not knowing that you were a bat 
 
Before you come to Malawi all was well with Priscilla but when foolish terry come you mislead my wife in the name of starting organization inorder to fulfill your desire. 
 
Am not happy with you and you are going to know who is Mulozowa. 
 
Though am assisting them it's different from the time i.was close with them 
 
Priscilla is being taken to police now and then because of loans from different people because of your foolish advice from you 
 
When I was with Priscilla he was not sleeping without food he had plenty of food.i was able to harvest 70 bags of maize. This year she has nothing from the garden and she is starving because of a dog like you 
 
Once you get here am going to arrest you completely 
 
You have destroyed the future of my children they were happy but you have removed their happiness because of your foolish minds 
 
Know that am not happy with you and I will act strongly 
 
Had it being you loved her why couldn't you square all the loans she has because of your foolish calling 
 
A Demonic man, a Dog like you destroying my family inorder to get rich in Africa 
 
God is going to punish you completely 
 
Did God called you to destroy families or preach the gospel 
 
I don't know who called you a wizard like you is it God 
 
Am not happy with you a son of snake 
 
That's why you were an able to preach but reading pamphlets as catholic priest 
 
Had it being you loved Priscilla,why is she starving to survive 
 
Priscilla is now a begger yet since I got married to her she have never gone to police department because of loans 
 
Sort all the loans she has because it has happened because of you and she is not at peace because of summons from police now and then 
 
If you are in love why failing to assist her to the point that she do sleep without food 
 
The future of my children was bright but you have turned it to bad that's why am not happy with you a big foolish terry and Alexander 
 
Look Benjamin has failed to write her examination because you have spooled his mind and he can't come to me to ask for assistance 
 
Go to mental hospital you are totally mad in destroying future of my children 
 
Very foolish terry together with your son Andre 
 
Am not happy with you destroying my family inorder to get my children suffer many things 
 
Very soon am starting dealing with people who have destroyed the future of my children

Bitter COG Prophet Still Angry At Living Church of God


 

Our most highly favored prophet to ever grace the Church of God movement posted an article on April 13 that included an article from Vox titled "How to forgive someone who isn't sorry".

After the article, the Great Bwana had this to say:

Yes, it is good for us to be merciful and forgiving:

17 The merciful man does good for his own soul,

But he who is cruel troubles his own flesh.  (Proverbs 11:17)

In Matthew 18:7, Jesus said “offenses must come” so we should expect to be offended.

As far as forgiving someone who has not repented, Jesus prayed:

29 … “Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they do.” (Luke 23:29)

Remember that the Apostle Paul taught we were to imitate Christ (1 Corinthians 11:1).

Our God is most merciful:

8 The Lord is merciful and gracious,

Slow to anger, and abounding in mercy.  (Psalm 103:8)

Mercy mirrors God’s very character. God is truly a forgiving Father. We have to be His merciful and forgiving children.

It is interesting that he posts this AFTER his "Passover" service, a night that the COG movement looks to  as a night for wiping the slate clean for the previous year's sins. One would've expected that such an article would have been sent to his dwindling faithful BEFORE "Passover" so that they could cleanse their hearts of bitterness and anger towards others that may have offended them. But this is Bob, after all, and letting go is NOT one of his attributes.

The Great Bwana continues:

Being longsuffering includes being able to forgive trespasses against us.  Paul also told the Collossians:

12 Therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, put on tender mercies, kindness, humility, meekness, longsuffering; 13 bearing with one another, and forgiving one another, if anyone has a complaint against another; even as Christ forgave you, so you also must do. 14 But above all these things put on love, which is the bond of perfection. (Colossians 3:12-14)

Yes, love and forgive. Yet many, including Christians, do not seem to want to forgive and let go.

The Apostle Peter taught:

5 But also for this very reason, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue, to virtue knowledge, 6 to knowledge self-control, to self-control perseverance, to perseverance godliness, 7 to godliness brotherly kindness, and to brotherly kindness love. (2 Peter 1:5-7)

Passover apparently did not work too well for Bob this year as he is already sinning by letting his anger get to him by dragging up once again how Rod Meredith and the Living Church of God IGNORED his demands to change its teachings to fit HIS interpretations.

This now brings us to today's blog entry by the Great Bwana on how ignorant the Philadelphia Church of God and the Living Church of God are on the tribulation and when it is to arrive "PCG and LCG still have the Great Tribulation starting too late!"

It is one of his usual rants on how he is more highly biblically educated than either of the two groups, particularly when it comes to end-time prophecy and the tribulation. Nothing gets a COG leader off more than looking forward to mayhem and death upon the people of the world.

Gerald Flurry also wrote the following in his Daniel –Unsealed at Last!booklet:

THE GREAT TRIBULATION

The verses preceding Daniel 11:40 discuss what happens in the Church prior to the Tribulation. (Flurry G. Daniel –Unsealed at Last! PCG booklet, 2016, p 82)

No, while some verses in Daniel 11 do discuss the Church, the verses in Daniel 11 immediately preceding verse 40 are NOT describing what happens to the Church prior to the start of the Great Tribulation. Notice what Daniel specifically wrote there:

36 “Then the king shall do according to his own will: he shall exalt and magnify himself above every god, shall speak blasphemies against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the wrath has been accomplished; for what has been determined shall be done. 37 He shall regard neither the God of his fathers nor the desire of women, nor regard any god; for he shall exalt himself above them all. 38 But in their place he shall honor a god of fortresses; and a god which his fathers did not know he shall honor with gold and silver, with precious stones and pleasant things. 39 Thus he shall act against the strongest fortresses with a foreign god, which he shall acknowledge, and advance its glory; and he shall cause them to rule over many, and divide the land for gain. (Daniel 11:36-39)

The Great Tribulation starts no later than Daniel 11:39.

PCG, just like LCG, has the Great Tribulation starting too late.

The two Geralds need to kneel at the feet of the all-knowing Bob so he can educate them as to the true meaning of scripture. Yes, I know! What a ludicrous thought, but this is Bob, after all.

Then the Great Bwana launches in on the Living Church of God. His bitterness at their rejection of him still eats at his core. 13-14 years later and he still cannot let it go. When his spiritual Daddy, Rod Meredith publicly rejected his biblical interpretation and his prophethood status, that was the ultimate coup de grâce for Bob.

Both of these church groups, readers of this blog, and all other COG groups out there will be left behind while Bob heads off to Petra to start his reeducation camp for this faithful who will have somehow been magically transported for all over Africa to the place of final training to be gods, goddesses, kings, priests, and rulers of galaxies as Bob sits on his throne next to Christ.

Here is a statement from LCG’s Official Statement of Fundamental Beliefs:

THE “GREAT TRIBULATION”

The Bible speaks of a time of great catastrophe, called the “Great Tribulation” (Matthew 24:21–22Daniel 11:40–4512:1Luke 21:19–36)—also called “Jacob’s trouble” (Jeremiah 30:3–7).

That “Fundamental Belief” is scripturally in error. And when I was in LCG, its evangelists Dr. Roderick C. Meredith, Dr. Doug Winnail, and Richard Ames all agreed that it was in error. And Dr. Meredith promised in a meeting with them and myself that LCG’s Official Statement of Fundamental Beliefs would be changed before the end of January 2012 to correct it.

But, that did not happen.

So, now, since PCG and LCG still officially teach that the Great Tribulation does not begin until Daniel 11:40 (which discusses the battle between the King of the North and the King of the South), they are looking for the wrong event, while overlooking the event in verse 39.

Unless PCG and LCG change on this, and other significant prophetic errors they hold, they will NOT know when the Great Tribulation will begin until after it is too late for nearly all of their members to possibly flee to the place of protection that the true Philadelphian Christians will be protected at.

There are serious theological and prophetic differences between various groups calling themselves Church of God.

Jesus warned that most endtime Christians would be Laodicean and NOT take the proper spiritual steps to be protected from the coming “hour of trial” (Revelation 3:10).

No real Christian in their right mind would ever be following Bob Thiel. If you truly had faith in the God you claim to follow and were a follower of Jesus; to follow Bob would be to destroy your spiritual life. Bitterness, anger, and not letting go are sins that Bob cannot escape. His ministers in Africa see this and they also act accordingly. Another article will follow that shows how much anger and bitterness fill the minds of one of Bob's ministers in Africa.

No one should ever put their trust in Bob Thiel to tell them when the tribulation arrives. He has no idea either, regardless of how much he lies that he does. Besides, if a Christian is following Jesus then they have no need for concern. They rest in the assurance he brings and not in the blathering of self-appointed illegitimate COG leaders who let their lives continually be filled with bitterness and anger.

 

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