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Friday, April 2, 2021
The following was sent to Dennis. I am more than happy to post this and also deleted comments directed towards Aaron. There will be NO COMMENTS allowed in response to this post in order to keep it civil. Due to Google's method of posting comments can be done anonymously and cannot be attached to a name unless people want to use their name.
I just finished reading about Kevin on Banned by HWA and saw comments about myself. Your name is listed but do you know who hosts this site as I would like the slanderous comments about me removed.
I can prove they are false...some factual errors: I never went to camp as a camper or staff, even though I was promised by Dr. Lochner each year for 5 years but because ministers kids came in they took my spot. (one exception, the HWA fly in/fly out to speak and leave, so anything there couldn't happen.
I wasn't ordained till late 1979 so I couldn't have given a sermon in 1978 for someone to 'remember', or anytime near that since I was with HWA 365 days a year and didn't give sermons till after he died with a couple rare exceptions and they were historical travel related...so I couldn't give the sermon this person talks about. (And never have given any sermon on 'self love'. ) I never said to 'my members' cause I didn't have any members. I also never said I was promiscuous as a youth to anyone. Interesting that one said I wasn't a pedophile, even though they said I was having sex all over because of my position. Of course, my wife traveled with me so my inability to do any of this is provable. None of it has any basis in fact or truth, yet follow up comments show they are believed. I would like these anonymous posts removed, or at least the posters anonymity removed.
I understand anger and hate, but that does not mean anyone can make up things they wish to believe with created 'facts' that sound reasonable but are absolute falsehoods. It is interesting that Rader, in 1980 when I witnessed against him after I wouldn't accept a 6 figure offer to shut up, did a slander campaign with all his money and getting people to write falsehoods because they owed him (Jack Kessler) could not find a moral charge, yet if what these people state had any basis at all he would, by these posts, have had tons of material to destroy my testimony. Interesting Rader's often stated comment, "throw enough mud, some of it will stick". The only accurate statement is that Kevin was my brother. (We had totally separate jobs and he left the church 35 years ago. I guess I am the Virgin Mary in reverse. I cheated without ever cheating - before or after marriage.
Sites should be responsible for the posts they allow, and either bear responsibility to remove false statements or give the names so all can see they are not in a position to have facts or have them prove their statements, which of course they can't., and face any legal charges.
Anyway I would like to put the site on notice about allowing and posting this slander. Aaron
ps. I have had close friends who have known me since my youth and directed me to these comments express their sorrow for what is written when seeing these lies. and the availability of this garbage on social media for my kids and grandkids.
It's Friday in the United States and time for the weekly Sabbath smack-down on things LCG members are doing wrong.
Apparently, the motives of LCG members are wrong.
Some are ensnared by Satan's devices.
Some have doubts.
Some are causing divisions.
Some rebel against authority.
Some are tuned into Satan's wavelength.
Some have clever thoughts.
Some have clever ideas.
Some have bad attitudes.
Some question decisions of church leadership.
Some harbor animosity.
Some are resentful.
Some make hurtful comments.
When LCG members do this they are guilty of SPIRITUAL MURDER!
LCG members are being asked to examine themselves to see if they have the mind of Christ in them.
That's pretty hard for them to do since most of the year the inconvenient dude is never discussed.
It is no wonder so many COG members feel so depressed anymore when they are bombarded with such negativity on a weekly basis.
Here they are after Passover when their slates are wiped clean and they have another opportunity to make a new year more joyful and appreciative of the sacrifice of Jesus Christ. That thankfulness and joy are already gone since it is time to hammer the members once again for being such failures.
Who needs that inconvenient New Covenant? LCG sure doesn't seem like they need it.
Anyway, always remember to have a "profitable Sabbath", Doug's God expects that.
Satan’s Subtle Devices: The Days of Unleavened Bread provide us with an opportunity to carefully examine the motives in our own heart (1 Corinthians 11:29–32). Are we truly motivated by God’s Spirit or by the attitudes of this world? Unfortunately, after years in the Church, we can still be snared by Satan’s devices (2 Corinthians 2:11; Ephesians 6:11)—even without realizing what is happening. Satan, who is the accuser of the brethren and the source of doubts, divisions, and rebellion against authority, can cleverly beam thoughts, ideas, and attitudes into our minds (Ephesians 2:2), stirring us to criticize, complain, and question decisions, actions, and guidelines of those around us and over us in the Body of Christ. When we remember that Satan tempted Jesus (Matthew 4:1–10) and then stirred Peter to rebuke Christ (Matthew 16:22–23), we should realize that we are not immune to Satan’s devices. Jesus warned that harboring animosity and resentment against others and making hurtful comments is the equivalent of spiritual murder (Matthew 5:21– 22). At this time of year, we need to ask ourselves if we have the mind of Jesus Christ to esteem others better than ourselves (Philippians 2:1–8)? If we spread doubts and division among others, we have been snared by a device of the “accuser of our brethren” (Revelation 12:10). Let’s strive to be real Philadelphia Christians who show love and promote peace among our brothers and sisters in the Church of God.
Have a profitable Sabbath and Holy Day,Douglas S. Winnail
DW quote from an LCG source, comments mine.
Thursday, April 1, 2021
From an LCG source:
Here in Charlotte, we have a small outbreak of COVID-19 as three employees have tested positive and have mild symptoms. Others have been exposed and are self-quarantining. We will be working remotely for two weeks for all but a few essential personnel. Also, although we know of no one who has contracted the virus from services, out of an abundance of caution and because we do not know the full extent of who may have been exposed, we will hold services this week online.
This situation highlights the fact that COVID-19 has not yet gone away. It also shows how one person can impact many more. No one can fault someone who does not know he is sick, but once that is known, quarantine is essential. Please brethren, do not fellowship with others when you have symptoms, even if they are mild.—Gerald Weston
You will learn more in 24 minutes with these two videos about the book of Revelation than you have ever heard in 80 years in the Church of God. You will soon see why the crap being spewed by Bob Thiel, Gerald Flurry, Dave Pack, Ron Weinland, and others is nothing more than a load of useless bull.
I have a request from a person who is asking if anyone knows of ex-COG7 member sites like Banned, The Painful Truth, and other exmembers sites. There are hundreds of exJW and exSDA sites but no one seems to know of any for COG7.
I am asking a favor - because CoG7 is making an inroad into Sydney, I would like to know the other side of this Organization.
Many old WCG/splinters members had been so ps-off with Organised Churches
Is there something like Banned somewhere for CoG7?
Great to be forewarned so that others don't jump into the fire?
Thanks a lot and appreciate your thoughts
There is nothing that infuriates Church of God leaders more than people having access to the internet. The internet had a direct impact on the spectacular implosion of the Worldwide Church of God into hundreds of hundreds of little worthless splinter groups, starting in the early 1990s and onward. Various members started newsgroups on AOL, mailing lists like Good News Grapevine, and other sites. Church of God members could no longer be kept in the dark and church leadership no longer had control of how information was dispersed.
During the 1960's all kinds of books started being written about the church but they had little impact upon church members. Most never even knew they existed. That all changed with the internet. Information flowed freely and swiftly as more and more people began to own computers.
Today there are numerous websites, blogs, and Facebook groups dealing with COG splits and spiritual abuse. All of those groups exist thanks to the groundbreaking work of the Ambassador Report starting in 1975. Church members were no longer afraid to spill the beans on anything happening in the church.
The next big leap in information technology was cell phones with internet access. As primitive as they were earlier on, they still allowed quick access to information. Then, smartphones hit the scene. Who could have imagined that a little phone held in your hand was more powerful than the WCG/AC computer system at HQ that took up an entire floor of a building!
In spite of all of this, most COG groups embrace this amazing technology and make use of it. Some don't though. Dave Pack has railed on and on about the internet and how demonic it is. Bob Thiel says the technology is tuned in to Satan's wavelength but yet he prostrates himelf at the feet of that technology multiple times a day as he ignores his family.
And then there is Gerald Flurry, who is in a class all by himself.
Gerald Flurry has tried many times to get all the ministry and all members to stop using smartphones. Many have blatantly ignored him and continue owning them. In one of his fits of rage recently, he lashed out again at ministers and members using smartphones. Exit and Support Network has this up:
Smartphones were forbidden to be used by those on campus last year (read November 19, 2020 letter: “PCG Ruling Says No Smartphones Allowed“). It was January 24, 2020 when Andrew Locher gave a sermon about “Technology Use” where he said using smart devices will “destroy our teenagers.” That was the time G. Flurry put in place policies that would eliminate Smartphones on campus to “set the example for the brethren,” even though some did not obey that policy at the time.
The February 21, 2020 phone policy update said full time ministers were “expected to switch from their Smartphones to a future phone.” However, if some needed a Smartphone for their business, that was okay. G. Flurry “approved” the use of i-pads if you needed one. Then the April 2020 Pastor General’s Report reiterated again that the cell phone policy for ministers was that ministers should not be using Smartphones unless they were required to use one for their business. There were no exceptions for this policy. Minister’s wives were likewise expected to make the transition away from Smartphones.
Not all members have been following this policy because this subject about Smartphones was brought up again at the recent PCG Ministerial Conference when Stephen Flurry gave a lecture. He talked about what he called “the signs of warning and danger” for the congregation if they used Smartphones. One of the warning signs he said was “too much technology.”
Wayne Turgeon on day two of the conference gave a lecture on “Materialism” [Note by ESN: Why then did Turgeon in a 2021 sermon refer to all the materialism, riches and luxuries at HQs as “perks and fringe benefits” for being the few first fruits on this earth?] and said, “Materialism [not Charles Darwin] is the father of evolution and what we call human nature is really Satan’s nature. [Note by ESN: Human nature is that which makes us distinctly human] … People change a little at a time in the direction of the masses as they are influenced a little at a time.” This sounded to me exactly how PCG members change a little at a time as they are influenced by the leader’s mind control.
I know several members in PCG who all have Smartphones. But if G. Flurry continues his crack down, the day could come when we’ll see them with a flip phone again. It’s ridiculous to what lengths PCG will go to in order to keep members from finding out the truth about PCG. I know GF is also worried about someone recording their sermons with these Smartphones.
Members have been told that if they want to overcome they must hear what God (i. e., PCG government) is saying about this.
Members, however, are still using Smartphones. –[name withheld]
Wednesday, March 31, 2021
Dr Bob Thiel really seems to like the Prophet Amos. The reason seems clear. Amos was just your average guy sheepherder. He did not go to the school of the prophets. He wasn't trained in it. He just are one evidently. Some think he spent too much time herding his sheep with nothing much else to do those lonely days and nights. Maybe he had a dream or got doubly blessed somehow and ...Viola! I am a prophet! I can see why Bob likes that tale.
(For my own general view and examples of mental illness in the Biblical Characters see:
Amos is also used by those who study the psychology or lack thereof of the Biblical characters. Some seem very depressed such as Jeremiah. Some almost defy description with their schizophrenia such as an Ezekiel. All hear the voice of God in their heads. Few seem to act on their own volition. And all were not as conscious in their thinking as we are today.
The theory of the just how conscious human beings were up until three thousand years ago when writing came into the picture is a fascinating study. I personally found Julian Jaynes perspective on Consciousness and the Bi Cameral Mind telling and explained a lot that I had always noticed in the personalities or lack thereof in the OT prophets and characters. They seemed like robots.
The basic premise is that the personal "I" was not present in the recent past. Humans were more robotic and obeyed the voice of the gods in their heads more than thinking it through themselves. You see this plainly in the Old Testament. And if you know the text well enough, you will see that those who were the bad boys of the OT were the more conscious ones and the less conscious types punished them for stepping out of line. The less conscious who just robotically repeated "Thus saith the Lord...", were inevitably the priest craft. As God evolves from walking in the Garden with Adam and Eve to the cry of "Why art thou so afar off...?" , Jaynes does a magnificent job of showing how humans woke up and lost that voice of the gods only in their heads. Today in religion the fix is to "just have faith. Trust and obey for there no other way to be happy in Jesus, but to trust and obey"
So how did Amos think? Was he as conscious a human as we are today? No he wasn't. He simply was a conduit for the voices in his head he ascribed to God. He belonged to what is called the Axial Age. He was slow to adopt ,or never did or could, the changes that were coming to human consciousness
From Psychology Today...
Crackpot COG Prophet Now Claiming Satan Is Entering Your Brain Through Zoom, 5G, Laptops, TV Signals And More
Just when you think self-appointed COG prophets can't get any more desperate finding things wrong in the world, we find our favorite self-appointed deluded prophet getting all hot under his sacred holistic knickers about Zoom, Twitter, Radio, and TV waves, and much more.
COG deluded prophets are never content in proclaiming the good things of God's creation and the capacity that God gave to humans to create beautiful and useful things that contribute to society. Since they deny most things that God has done they instead turn to the god that they feel is really in charge and much more powerful than the God they claim to follow.
Today our resident crackpot here in California is hyperventilating over Zoom, Twitter, radio and TV sound/signal waves, GPS devices, cellphones, satellites, and other amazing inventions that are in use today. Because all of these things use the air surrounding us to work effectively, our crackpot prophet claims these are devices under the control of the "Prince of the power of the air". Yep, you heard that right, good old Satan, the powerful god of the COG is behind all of this.
The disappointing "son" of Rod Meredith has long been a regular subscriber to far-right newsgroups and conspiracy sites that are his "go-to" sources for "news" that fits the weird and conspiracy-laden COG belief system.
We can talk to people anywhere in the world live, on facetime or Zoom and it costs nothing and this remarkable device is only a little bigger than the palm of your hand and fits easily in our pocket
The atmosphere around our planet is covered by thousands of satellites that monitor us and help us constantly with GPS tracking devices. Millions of messages are being beamed around the world every second in the blink of an eve. We are being monitored in our cars, on the street, shopping, eating or at work. Back home we have flat screen high definition televisions in most rooms, (which also watches us). Even more gadgets, laptops, tablets and PC’s allow us to stream or download anything we may desire. Radio waves, TV signals, communication, entertainment networks. Every day, billions of invisible messages, images and videos are being transmitted all around us. The air and atmosphere is the highway of our wonderful technological world but, who owns it?
The following is an excerpt from Ephesians 2.
And you were dead in your trespasses and sins, in which you formerly walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, (the devil) of the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience.
And again in Ephesians 6.
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
“The Prince Of The Air”
Satan controls that highway. Satan, known in the Bible as “The Prince Of The Air,” he is in control of our airways. He is the Prince of tech and has established the foundation of his empire here on Earth through airwaves, radio waves, TV signals, communication, entertainment networks, streaming. From two black and white TV stations and an analogue radio back in 1957 to a sophisticated interconnected communication network capable of getting into the heads of almost 8 billion people today and talk about deception, we didn’t even realise, brilliant!
And it is only going to get worse! 5G phones are here as are sex robots and robot truckers! Shocking! Though considering some in the COG ministry, sex-robots will be a welcome thing to utilize, then they can really claim they never committed adultery.
Prophet Thiel continues on with more of the quotes from Censored News. Gone are the good old days with black and white TV. That is when things were pure, just like the COG was pure in the glory days of the 1950/60s.
Satan didn’t just take over the airwaves he took over our heads…
Bob Thiel got that one thing right...Satan has taken over his mind. Never has the COG had such a crazy deluded prophet than we have in Bob. Satan scored a big one with him. Dave Pack and Gerald Flurry are in the minor leagues compared to Bob.
His post is filled with much more conspiracy-laden doom and gloom meant to scare his 299 white followers into giving more money so he can keep his African followers aware of how crazy Americans are.
All will be well though if you submit and acknowledge the one true prophet leading the one true COG. When you do that you will be saved.
The merry-go-around is still spinning in the Restored Church of God. The creature Dave calls "christ" keeps changing its mind and now has a new day for its return. The new date is Saturday, April 3, 2021! Dave's creature is set to return on the Sabbath! Woo Hoo! Not only that, real Christians will be celebrating Holy Saturday. This is going to be fantastic!
I will make a more sure prophecy right now. This will be an astounding FACT! Dave's creature will NOT return this weekend, or by this time next year. Guaranteed fact!
Update. March 30, 2021
In closing Part 300, Mr. Pack stressed our wait could extend all the way to the Last Day of Unleavened Bread. It will! While the case seemed unlikely then, it now appears impossible that anything can occur until that day. The reasons for this are many. Every question can be answered.
The LAST day tells the whole story. Christ is revealed and our salvation comes in the last season. The saints are raised on the last day. The day (singular) tries every man’s work. You can no doubt think of other relevant verses that fit this scenario. Let us continue the process of deleavening our lives as we await this most special Last Day of Unleavened Bread!
Monday, March 29, 2021
From a reader:
Various denominations have the title “Right Reverend” for certain of their dignitaries (compare to “Right Honourable” in British usage, “right” carrying the sense of “very”) who merit such distinction. David Pack doesn’t get such a title —even if the COG allowed such titles — because he is not very “reverend” and he is so very wrong much of the time, the opposite of the another use of the word “right.”
However, I do see, thanks to some scurrilous website, that he has made the following remark:
“But if somehow God wanted to do that and let things drift out of Unleavened Bread, but "raise" everybody for the “Great Supper” on that day, then that's his prerogative. I don't see how it fits but I don't want to preclude it“
This is an important statement for several reasons: “I don’t see how it fits,” is probably the truest and rightest thing Pack has said. Secondly, if God wants to do something, that’s God’s “prerogative.” Two true statements in one sentence. Is this a personal best for Mr Pack?
Further, he doesn’t “want to preclude” God’s right to do whatever the hell God wants to do. I can’t think of a greater example of modesty and humility.
I offer up another possibility here, Coming from the East, on His way to Wadsworth, Christ’s ship was delayed by that mess in the Canal. Surely we can find a prophetic verse to back this up. But failing that, I revert to my often voiced prophecy that Pack will “discover” that Christ has indeed returned, and is presently dwelling in Mr Pack’s body. He has resisted the truth of this simply because he was being modest, but now (or when) all other possibilities are exhausted, it’s the only logical possible solution.
The craziness in Wadsworth continues as Dave moves the goalposts once more concerning the timing of his creature he calls "christ" and the date of his second coming.
From an RCG source:
(This message was given on the First Day of Unleavened Bread, where Dave skipped the double service so he could prepare these 45 minutes explaining why RCG’s predictions were wrong again. The quote is the conclusion to Part 300)
Now I want to just say this because I've been wrong before on timing. Let's allow that somehow, all these points [the previous 45 minutes of points] could, somehow suggest a Last Day of Unleavened Bread, start of the “84 hours.” ...But if somehow God wanted to do that and let things drift out of Unleavened Bread, but "raise" everybody for the “Great Supper” on that day, then that's his prerogative. I don't see how it fits but I don't want to preclude it, because if we got through Tuesday, the question is the same. “Do you think we're going another year or maybe another three and a half days? Or through to Wednesday morning?” Therefore, we may speculate that sometime midweek, about Tuesday night through Wednesday morning, mirroring “Christ's Last Supper” we'll see God and Christ for the "Great Supper."
The 84 hours were described in Daniel as opening with a resurrection, some unto eternal life, others would go on to everlasting shame and contempt. That's the start of it. Everything begins with the "Great Supper." Now, I guess, after all was said and done, this is Part 300. All right. I guess it was destined to be. Would this "short message," in fact, be the “final ration,” “given in due season” before Christ is revealed in the same season, before on the last day of that season, we see all Israel and all the saints. On the first day of unleavened bread, the message would be given, that I unexpectedly had to race, rush to review and then assemble, through nonstop study beginning last night at the dinner table with some ministers. And I went home late into the night, got up this morning and stayed with it all day long. And didn't get to hear what I'm sure were, two wonderful sermons and sermonettes to others.
And then that message would be delivered after which we are to "watch." It would seem so. We're still more on track than the whole church knows, you now know it, but everybody else does. And if I go too long, it's too much translating and too much other time loss of time and then others may not hear this. But if Unleavened Bread totally all of it ends, then "wild elephants" cannot pull us back from a full one-year wait. That's why I wanted to throw in, in case I'm wrong on the timing that everything on the last day, rather than Tuesday night or Wednesday, I wanted to say only then would we have a one-year wait, not because as we got through, um, Passover a couple of nights ago, and we were somehow still here. I hope this helps, godspeed Christ's return sometime the middle of this week before we all are together, on the last day you now know of Unleavened Bread.
Sunday, March 28, 2021
This is my the post I made this morning on Facebook.
I have been dealing with other things and was delayed in posting about the court case with my predator from high school. I had no idea about this article until my friend sent it to me this morning.
This article, in a nutshell tells the story of how we got that lame excuse for a man in jail for LIFE!!! We (the ladies that came forward) got to watch Kevin Owen Dean get sentenced on Zoom last Wednesday. We are very fortunate that we got to see justice prevail. We cannot un-ring that bell but it is nice to have some idea of closure in the knowledge that he can't hurt anyone in that way ever again. I have been waiting 36 years for this. Karma is a thing and it will pay you back.
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE SAY SOMETHING if anyone ever touched you in the wrong way. The statute of limitations has been lifted. The possibility of catching your predator is REAL. Child molesters are sometimes relatives and/or like to hide in churches, schools, youth groups, etc.
*Special note to parents. When your child, male or female comes to you and tells you a horrific story, YOU BETTER LISTEN AND FOLLOW UP!!!! Lots of people keep molesting because the kids are afraid to say anything because they think they will get in trouble and won't be believed. (That was exactly the case with the 3 of us girls. Our parents protected the predator because he was a high ranking person in our church.)
I am grateful to my friend for reaching out to me back in 2010 to tell me her story. I am grateful to another woman who reached out to me just 2 weeks ago and I was able to put her in touch with the DA. I am grateful that the step-granddaughter told her mother and that mother believed her. I cannot take the pain away from these women, but I love and commend them for their bravery, tenacity and courage.
By law, the prosecution has to share the witness list with the defense. When Dean found out that the 4 of us were coming IN PERSON to testify against him, he caved and switched his plea to guilty.
Special thanks to Lindsay Raynor, Assistant District Attorney -Cobb Judicial Circuit and Jessica Hines, Victim/Witness Advocate, Special Victims Unit Cobb County, District Attorney's Office for all of your help, understanding and perseverance on this case. I also want to give thanks to Sharon M. Fox, the retired Senior Assistant District Attorney who started this case back in 2010. xoxoxoxo
I do offer my condolences to his 2 daughters; I hope he left them alone.
LET THE HEALING BEGIN!!!
By Lisa Davis
BREAKING: Kevin Dean Has Additional 25-Years Prison Term Added To His Present 20 Year Sentence After Admitting He Molested Numerous Girls/Women
A Kennesaw man already serving 20 years for child molestation was sentenced to 25 more years for similar crimes in Cobb County, the District Attorney’s Office said Thursday.
Kevin Owen Dean, 70, pleaded guilty Wednesday to eight counts of child molestation and three counts of aggravated child molestation for acts committed beginning in 2000 when the girl was 4 years old, the DA’s office said. Dean abused the girl until she was 14, according to investigators, and the molestation escalated over the years.
In 2010, the victim disclosed the abuse, and her mother contacted Cobb police. In a forensic interview, the teen told investigators Dean had abused her at two residences in Cobb and at his Marietta office, the DA’s office said.
In 2010, the victim disclosed the abuse, and her mother contacted Cobb police. In a forensic interview, the teen told investigators Dean had abused her at two residences in Cobb and at his Marietta office, the DA’s office said.
Dean initially denied everything, but eventually admitted to investigators that he had shown pornography to the victim and given and received oral sex with her, according to prosecutors. Dean also stated he was a former teacher and should have known better.
At Dean’s home, investigators found toys and videos the victim had described. In September 2010, Dean was charged with numerous counts of child molestation and sexual battery, records show.
When the investigation revealed Dean also abused the victim in a Cartersville office, he was also charged in Bartow County.
In 2012 while awaiting trial in both counties, Dean cut off his ankle monitor and fled the country, the Cobb DA’s office said. He evaded capture for seven years until U.S. marshals caught up with him in Mexico in 2019 and he was returned to the United States.
Later that year, Dean pleaded guilty to child molestation in Bartow. He has been serving that sentence at Jenkins Correctional Institute, according to the Georgia Department of Corrections.
Since the allegations against Dean went public, three other women have said he molested them in the 1980s in California. Dean was then a church pastor, a principal, and ran a summer camp, according to the Cobb DA’s office.
The victims addressed the court Wednesday before Dean was sentenced, with one of the California victims calling the Cobb victim “a hero” for speaking up.
Cobb Superior Court Judge Ann Harris sentenced Dean to 25 years to serve in prison without the possibility of parole, plus life on probation.
Ok Dave, It's over. You've had your day in the limelight and it's lights out. For the last decade and more you have made one "absolutely clear to me" mess of the scriptures after another. I don't know what your definition of a failed "prophet" and ministry is but we do as should your followers. I say followers because they aren't really members of any real Christian Church. They just follow you and endlessly evidently to their future harm.
You are the epitome of what is wrong with religion today. Weaving tales about the end times, as does Bob Thiel and others, as if you know, and making scriptures mean what they never meant in the first place. Weaving and cobbling one unconnected scripture after another into a stinking mess of mere speculation unrelated to the core values and teachings of Christianity.
"Your Creature Christ" is a apt description of just who and what you have come up with over the past years.
"We now have, and now I clearly see this, with no disagreement among the Headquarters ministers, one more year.
Dave....that is bullshit. You are postponing the inevitable. No Jesus and no God the Father are coming in your lifetime. (In my view never).
I was told once "Dennis, we think you know an awfully lot about Jesus, but we don't think you know Jesus." I got the point and did not disagree though I suspect that was said to make me think long an hard about that and come crawling on my knees back to the emotional and evangelical "Jesus".
You don't even get that. "Dave, we don't think you know much about Jesus at all. Hell, we don't think you understand the Old or New Testaments either."
I'm not confident you or RCG can survive you. I am not confident you can pull back and actually focus on the teachings of the NT , or if you really wish to be a New Covenant minister even. I think HWA and WCG got you so caught up in end time prophetic baloney that you probably can't give it up. It is the habit WCG gave to most of the gurus of the splinters. And while it is the gift that keeps on giving, to you, it is a Trojan Horse and will bite you and your followers in the ass before long. No, actually I believe you won't give it up and that will be your end and the end of your mini Kingdom of Yourself fairly soon.
Dave, you, like everyone in WCG before you and RCG are going to die. We all here reading this are going to die like every other human being who is and has lived on this earth has died. We don't like to think about that. We wanted and you still do, want to feel special. Don't forget that the Apostle Paul, who boldly claimed "we shall not all die but we shall be changed", died without the change. He didn't lie I am sure but he was wrong. Just as you are wrong. So very wrong.
"It's very difficult for humans to say the words "He/she/they died." What a marvelous number of euphemisms for death we have. We pass on, croak, kick the bucket, go home, expire, succumb, leave, meet our maker, go to our reward, get wasted, check out, eternally rest, are a goner, end, bite the dust, get liquidated, terminated and annihilated. We give up the ghost, make the change, transition, get mertilized, go to to the other side, fall asleep, get taken, rubbed and snuffed out. We depart, transcend and buy the farm. We are feeling no pain, lose the race, cash in, cross Jordan and go with the angels. We get done in, translate into glory, return to the dust, wither away, give up, take the long sleep and a dirt bath. It can be curtains, a dropped body, six feet under and out of our misery. We find everlasting peace, new lives the great beyond, ride into the sunset and that's all we wrote. But in plain fact, we are dead. And we all will die.
Take some of your ill gotten gain Dave and invest in some seriously honest classes in theology, Christology, Church History and why one should not be too quick to read the Book of Revelation like a newspaper. (old term I know) A Lutheran minister told me that years ago and it stuck in the back of my mind even as a pastor as one of the dangers in the WCG approach to it all. Time has proven that correct.
Time will prove you mistaken, as if it hasn't enough already, and your followers to have completely wasted their precious life time and weekends.
Admit to them you were wrong. Not just a little wrong but completely wrong. God is not giving you more time. God is not revealing more baloney to you to keep your mistaken views alive. No God has anything to do with anything you are doing. And then assure them you will give the New Testament a good read again and see what it really says.
Try giving just one sermon where you make no references to either the Old Testament or yourself.
That will always be your challenge in ministry even if your ministry proves just to be a figment of your imagination.